Sounds like "cold feet" source was strong yesterday

[Coach34]

https://twitter.com/TheSECWill/status/934204024802496513

[Commercecomet24]

Cold feet or maybe just maybe he doesn?t want to leave us.

[Pollodawg]

https://twitter.com/TheSECWill/status/934204024802496513

It’s all really unfortunate. If we didn’t have the team we should have coming back next season, it would be time for Dan to move on. You can only be somewhere for so long.

[msstate7]

Schiano could be a nice hire

[Leroy Jenkins]

It’s all really unfortunate. If we didn’t have the team we should have coming back next season, it would be time for Dan to move on. You can only be somewhere for so long.

Imagine what a coach with nuts and drive could do with next years team. Dan has become too comfortable.

[Coach34]

I've said it all along- it's hard to leave next year's team- thats 9 years of building finally coming to fruition, even for alot more money. Hope he doesnt leave- this team and this recruiting class are crucial for us

[RocketDawg]

It’s all really unfortunate. If we didn’t have the team we should have coming back next season, it would be time for Dan to move on. You can only be somewhere for so long.

I don't understand that reasoning. Vaught stayed at OM forever; Bear stayed at Alabama until he was almost dead; Beamer was at Va Tech for ages ... many more examples. Is it also time for Saban to move on? He's been at Alabama longer than Mullen's been at MSU.

[Commercecomet24]

I've said it all along- it's hard to leave next year's team- thats 9 years of building finally coming to fruition, even for alot more money. Hope he doesnt leave- this team and this recruiting class is crucial for us

Exactly! The team, the recruiting class of 18 and 19 give us a chance to take the next step. We need stability now.

[Commercecomet24]

Need to make sure we wrap Grantham up too.

[Coach34]

Need to make sure we wrap Grantham up too.

Mullen stays Grantham is a done deal. He will get paid and he doesnt want to leave that defense we will have next year. It will be the best he has ever coached

[Commercecomet24]

Mullen stays Grantham is a done deal. He will get paid and he doesnt want to leave that defense we will have next year. It will be the best he has ever coached

Good stuff.

[HoopsDawg]

Mullen stays Grantham is a done deal. He will get paid and he doesnt want to leave that defense we will have next year. It will be the best he has ever coached

can you get your tailgate crew to go and wrap up Savion Smith? Shame to let a memorable season go to waste b/c we don't have speed at one position.

[justwin]

https://twitter.com/TheSECWill/status/934204024802496513


Or fake news pushed by you. Every year you do this for clicks & once again you're wrong

[maroonmania]

It’s all really unfortunate. If we didn’t have the team we should have coming back next season, it would be time for Dan to move on. You can only be somewhere for so long.

Uh Bobby Bowden, Frank Beamer and Bill Snyder all say hello. These are all guys that took over programs that were traditional doormats when they took over and they turned them into winners and stayed there for their entire career. No, its not the norm, but you don't HAVE to move on from somewhere if its a good fit and you want to have "your" program rather than being one in a long line of HCs at some other program. Mullen certainly can make all the money he will ever need staying at MSU.

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Was told Grantham would move to 1.5 If that's been on the board, forgive me as I haven't read all the way down. Person who told me may have seen it on here for all I know. Was also told that Cohen laid it out to Mullen and said here's the package, we want you to stay, but we need to know pretty quickly. No begging involved.

[Coach34]

Or fake news pushed by you. Every year you do this for clicks & once again you're wrong

Sorry Dude- I'm powerful and all knowing- but I dont control what happens at Tennessee. Go call out Rosebowl for reporting the same thing I did. Thanks for being part of the board

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

All due respect. There never was any hot feet to begin with. Tennessee gonna get who they want. Not the hillbillies but the staff

[Commercecomet24]

Was told Grantham would move to 1.5 If that's been on the board, forgive me as I haven't read all the way down. Person who told me may have seen it on here for all I know. Was also told that Cohen laid it out to Mullen and said here's the package, we want you to stay, but we need to know pretty quickly. No begging involved.

Heard the same thing.

[Coach34]

All due respect. There never was any hot feet to begin with. Tennessee gonna get who they want. Not the hillbillies but the staff

Dude- they had a meeting planned and Dan had a contract to look over. 100%

[lefty96]

I’m curious on this. And I freely admit to being stupid. But at what point does more money not matter. When you are clearing millions a year,does a couple more really change the math on your day to day? If you are chasing a championship, I get Florida or FSU but I do not get Tenn, I think that job is fool’s gold.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

I don't understand that reasoning. Vaught stayed at OM forever; Bear stayed at Alabama until he was almost dead; Beamer was at Va Tech for ages ... many more examples. Is it also time for Saban to move on? He's been at Alabama longer than Mullen's been at MSU.

I’m sure its a personality thing. Some people need a new environment, some people don’t. Saying ALL coaches get burnt out after x number of years is an over generalization. I feel like Dan might have been burned out for a few seasons around years 6-8, he didn’t seem to be this season though. So who knows.

[preachermatt83]

I've said it all along- it's hard to leave next year's team- thats 9 years of building finally coming to fruition, even for alot more money. Hope he doesnt leave- this team and this recruiting class are crucial for us

Agree completely

[Liverpooldawg]

We have been a revolving door for most of our history. We need stability more than anything. We know Mullen is a good coach HERE. We don't know that about any other guy out there you can say that about.

[Commercecomet24]

We have been a revolving door for most of our history. We need stability more than anything. We know Mullen is a good coach HERE. We don't know that about any other guy out there you can say that about.

Agree completely!

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Exactly! The team, the recruiting class of 18 and 19 give us a chance to take the next step. We need stability now.


Need to make sure we wrap Grantham up too.

This is my arguement, we shouldn’t roll the dice on a new coach at this point in time with the opportunity we have over the next few years. Last night sucked, but it was not on Mullen like its been in years past.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

So with the early signing period looming and a coach having to be in place like tomorrow, and a contract in place to look over, their AD was just to busy to catch a plane? Or could it be that Mullen and Grantham already agreed to an extension before all this got out? I ain’t knocking you or the 247 crew. But if a contract was ready to be signed logistics didn’t cause the meeting to be canceled.

And i trust my source at Tennessee 100%. They gonna have to miss on a few for Dan to get an offer.

That’s the last thing I am gonna say about all this. But as much as you wanna believe your sources are right. I know for a fact mine at UT is right. I never said he couldn’t end up there. I am saying he isn’t their top pick and neither was Gruden

[Commercecomet24]

This is my arguement, we shouldn’t roll the dice on a new coach at this point in time with the opportunity we have over the next few years. Last night sucked, but it was not on Mullen like its been in years past.

Yep if we are gonna do it this is our time!

[Coach34]

We have been a revolving door for most of our history. We need stability more than anything. We know Mullen is a good coach HERE. We don't know that about any other guy out there you can say that about.

Wrong- we have had 3 coaches in the last 27 years. Thats really good.

[Coldsleeve Jr.]

Dude- they had a meeting planned and Dan had a contract to look over. 100%

Why some ppl don?t understand this is how Sexton (and all agents) get their clients paid is beyond me. Get an offer in writing to get market value then show it to who you?re negotiating with to get higher pay.

This does not mean ?cold feet?.

[lefty96]

We do change coordinators like spinal tap changes drummers though

[HotMop]

Throw enough crap at the wall and some will stick...

[maroonmania]

We have been a revolving door for most of our history. We need stability more than anything. We know Mullen is a good coach HERE. We don't know that about any other guy out there you can say that about.

Agree. There are certainly faults that Mullen has that I think are keeping him from being a great or elite coach, he is certainly a good coach for us, has the relationships with MS HS coaches and knows our lay of the land. You have to start over with all of that with a new coach. Those kind of things are probably more important in a rural state like MS than it would if you are talking about a coaching job in a more populous state.

[maroonmania]

Sorry Dude- I'm powerful and all knowing- but I dont control what happens at Tennessee. Go call out Rosebowl for reporting the same thing I did. Thanks for being part of the board

Well, if you had just reported that Dan was listening to TN like Rosebowl you would not have caught all of the blow back. You reported it initially like it was a done deal when it never was.

[Coach34]

Well, if you had just reported that Dan was listening to TN like Rosebowl you would not have caught all of the blow back. You reported it initially like it was a done deal when it never was.

I post what the big boys throw to me. Thanks for being part of the board

[Liverpooldawg]

I’m sure its a personality thing. Some people need a new environment, some people don’t. Saying ALL coaches get burnt out after x number of years is an over generalization. I feel like Dan might have been burned out for a few seasons around years 6-8, he didn’t seem to be this season though. So who knows.

Burn out only seems to be a problem when teams are losing or the fan base is bat shite crazy.

[Liverpooldawg]

I post what the big boys throw to me. Thanks for being part of the board

If you had waited till today nobody would have said a dang word to you.

[Turfdawg67]

Cold feet or maybe just maybe he doesn?t want to leave us.

Think they are both one in the same.

[confucius say]

Dude- they had a meeting planned and Dan had a contract to look over. 100%

So the only logical explanation is dan's side cancelled the meeting? Bc it makes no sense that tn had its guy, prepared the contract, and then changed its mind. Good for dan.

[Liverpooldawg]

Wrong- we have had 3 coaches in the last 27 years. Thats really good.

I said history 34. It didnt start 27 years ago. We were stable under McKeen, sort of under Jackie, and now. That's it.

[DawgPoundtheRock]

So with the early signing period looming and a coach having to be in place like tomorrow, and a contract in place to look over, their AD was just to busy to catch a plane? Or could it be that Mullen and Grantham already agreed to an extension before all this got out? I ain’t knocking you or the 247 crew. But if a contract was ready to be signed logistics didn’t cause the meeting to be canceled.

And i trust my source at Tennessee 100%. They gonna have to miss on a few for Dan to get an offer.

That’s the last thing I am gonna say about all this. But as much as you wanna believe your sources are right. I know for a fact mine at UT is right. I never said he couldn’t end up there. I am saying he isn’t their top pick and neither was Gruden

I live in Chattanooga and am surrounded by UT fans and media. This is exactly what I have been hearing for the last week to 10 days. In fact, Mullen is far down on the list. He is the "bottom of the barrel" so to speak. They want to make a splash, and Dan is about as small of a splash that they feel they can stand.

There's been a lot of wasted angst on this topic.

[HotMop]

I post what the big boys throw to me. Thanks for being part of the board

I drop those big boy sources.

[Coach34]

I said history 34. It didnt start 27 years ago. We were stable under McKeen, sort of under Jackie, and now. That's it.

history is 27 years. What happened 50 years ago is in no way relevant now and doesnt influence anything. That's the problem the Bearfins have-they cant get over the 1960's.

[Liverpooldawg]

We do change coordinators like spinal tap changes drummers though

Yep, part of what I was saying.

[Liverpooldawg]

history is 27 years. What happened 50 years ago is in no way relevant now and doesnt influence anything. That's the problem the Bearfins have-they cant get over the 1960's.

Lol. Their problem is their recent history. Ours is no better, and if you go back to the era when most current reps were set, ours is atrocious. I know what you want, you have made it plain. I want to keep what we have and build it slow and steady. It won't be a constant upward trend, sustainable trends never are.

[yjnkdawg]

I?m sure its a personality thing. Some people need a new environment, some people don?t. Saying ALL coaches get burnt out after x number of years is an over generalization. I feel like Dan might have been burned out for a few seasons around years 6-8, he didn?t seem to be this season though. So who knows.



Probably frustrated how the OM Network was swaying players away from us as well as them getting the high 4 or 5* players, especially that had no previous ties or connections to OM, with an "aw shucks" coach and the NCAA not doing anything about it.

[maroonmania]

I live in Chattanooga and am surrounded by UT fans and media. This is exactly what I have been hearing for the last week to 10 days. In fact, Mullen is far down on the list. He is the "bottom of the barrel" so to speak. They want to make a splash, and Dan is about as small of a splash that they feel they can stand.

There's been a lot of wasted angst on this topic.

Its never wasted angst for Dan. He always ends up with a nice raise out of these job rumor fiascos.

[yjnkdawg]

Its never wasted angst for Dan. He always ends up with a nice raise out of these job rumor fiascos.


I said in another thread something similar to this. As long as Jimmy Sexton is Mullen's agent and Mullen's name is a hot commodity this type of thing will continue. It's called doing business to help your client and yourself.

[was21]

history is 27 years. What happened 50 years ago is in no way relevant now and doesnt influence anything. That's the problem the Bearfins have-they cant get over the 1960's.

..and 1950's. Vaught got there in '47 and lasted until early 70's when he left and came back for a year or so...the hay day and ebb of segregation

[TrapGame]

We do change coordinators like spinal tap changes drummers though

To be fair, all the Spinal Tap drummers died mysteriously.

[Todd4State]

To be fair, all the Spinal Tap drummers died mysteriously.

Peter Sirmon's defenses spontaneously combusted quite often.

[lefty96]

Peter Sirmon's defenses spontaneously combusted quite often.

The death of his career will be no mystery though.

[DogsofAnarchy]

We have been a revolving door for most of our history. We need stability more than anything. We know Mullen is a good coach HERE. We don't know that about any other guy out there you can say that about.

We have had 3 Coaches in about 30 years. Name me a school who has had fewer? Then think about revolving doors in other places.

[DownwardDawg]

We have had 3 Coaches in about 30 years. Name me a school who has had fewer? Then think about revolving doors in other places.

I was thinking the same thing. We must be the most stable job in the NCAA.

[Todd4State]

I was thinking the same thing. We must be the most stable job in the NCAA.

Every football coach we have had since Wade Walker in the 50's has had at least five seasons at MSU.

[ShotgunDawg]

Wrong- we have had 3 coaches in the last 27 years. Thats really good.

This

MSU football history started in 1990.

What we were before then & what we have been afterward, are drastically different.

3 coaches in 27 years is fantastic. What happened 30 years ago, which in college football, due to TV contracts, home games in Jackson, etc..., was a different era & is irrelevant.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Nothing pulled up on the link for me somebody give me the short version

[Liverpooldawg]

We have had 3 Coaches in about 30 years. Name me a school who has had fewer? Then think about revolving doors in other places.

W Two of them were are most successful coaches ever. Now you boys don’t won’t to go back much more than that. Your arguments fall apart there.

[Liverpooldawg]

This

MSU football history started in 1990.

What we were before then & what we have been afterward, are drastically different.

3 coaches in 27 years is fantastic. What happened 30 years ago, which in college football, due to TV contracts, home games in Jackson, etc..., was a different era & is irrelevant.

To us maybe. We ain’t the victors and we didn’t write the history.

[Turfdawg67]

So with the early signing period looming and a coach having to be in place like tomorrow, and a contract in place to look over, their AD was just to busy to catch a plane? Or could it be that Mullen and Grantham already agreed to an extension before all this got out? I ain?t knocking you or the 247 crew. But if a contract was ready to be signed logistics didn?t cause the meeting to be canceled.

And i trust my source at Tennessee 100%. They gonna have to miss on a few for Dan to get an offer.

That?s the last thing I am gonna say about all this. But as much as you wanna believe your sources are right. I know for a fact mine at UT is right. I never said he couldn?t end up there. I am saying he isn?t their top pick and neither was Gruden

To be fair, I can?t remember one inside tidbit or sourced nugget that you?ve shared with the board. Not saying you haven?t... Now 34, he seems to have some really good connections and provides good insight, IMO. Now his delivery, tone and tact could use some work.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

To be fair, I can?t remember one inside tidbit or sourced nugget that you?ve shared with the board. Not saying you haven?t... Now 34, he seems to have some really good connections and provides good insight, IMO. Now his delivery, tone and tact could use some work.

Care to ask him where he got some of that excellent inside info over the years. Dude me and Lee are friends. And my intent here wasn?t to bash Lee or ED in anyway. I love ED and defend it to my core. But people can be wrong as well

And for the record I didn?t say Lee was wrong. I said his source was. And as it played out he was. And i am attempt at peace I will leave it at that.

[Todd4State]

W Two of them were are most successful coaches ever. Now you boys don’t won’t to go back much more than that. Your arguments fall apart there.

Not really. Jackie was good. Then we went down when we were on probation. Croom wasn't a great coach but he did get us to the Liberty Bowl and should have won more than he did. Dan has been successful as well. Take away the probation and who knows how the 2000's go?

Lots of historical factors as well- integration, SEC expansion, rise of the power five conferences. You can't compare 1940 MSU with 2017 MSU.

[Liverpooldawg]

Take away the probation.......and who is to blame for THAT? You guys kill me trying to argue against history. Our history is what it is. That is why I am SO pro Mullen. We ain’t never had anything like what we have now in the modern era, by your standards. By MY standards we ain’t had anything like we have now since McKeen prior to WWII. Your own standards bolster MY arguments.

[bulldawg28]

Care to ask him where he got some of that excellent inside info over the years. Dude me and Lee are friends. And my intent here wasn?t to bash Lee or ED in anyway. I love ED and defend it to my core. But people can be wrong as well

And for the record I didn?t say Lee was wrong. I said his source was. And as it played out he was. And i am attempt at peace I will leave it at that.

I need to meet Lee.

[Leroy Jenkins]

This

MSU football history started in 1990.

What we were before then & what we have been afterward, are drastically different.

3 coaches in 27 years is fantastic. What happened 30 years ago, which in college football, due to TV contracts, home games in Jackson, etc..., was a different era & is irrelevant.


I would go so far as to say anything pre-SEC Network/ESPN welfare money doesn't count.

[Cooterpoot]

I tried to tell y'all that TN ship had sailed.

[Todd4State]

Take away the probation.......and who is to blame for THAT? You guys kill me trying to argue against history. Our history is what it is. That is why I am SO pro Mullen. We ain’t never had anything like what we have now in the modern era, by your standards. By MY standards we ain’t had anything like we have now since McKeen prior to WWII. Your own standards bolster MY arguments.

Not very many here are anti Mullen. It's just that you absolutely flip out every time there is a rumor about Dan and another school.

History has some relevance related to period in time. What you are doing would be like me comparing America today to America in the Civil War or Revolutionary period. A lot has changed since 1940. Dan at this point is actually only about one win on average better than Jackie during the same time frame in their careers. And some of that might be because Dan gets to play an extra game against a FCS school every year- something Jackie didn't get to do.

And no question probation absolutely affected us between 2001-2006. It was our fault- but we were not penalized for anything to the point where we had to vacate wins. I would imagine if Ole Miss was allowed to continue to cheat they would be winning 9-10 a year still instead of the 5-6 they have the past two years under investigation.

You can not compare 1950 MSU with today. You're talking about an era with two way players with leather helmets for God's sakes.

In this era we are a top 30 program every year with our ceiling being a top 10 program. And we're in better shape than some blue bloods right now- like Tennessee.

[ShotgunDawg]

I would go so far as to say anything pre-SEC Network/ESPN welfare money doesn't count.

That will be determined in time

[PassInterference]

It?s funny that for so many years, Dan couldn?t keep a DC and now it?s a DC that is probably keeping Dan here.

I?d like to keep Mullen at least another year or two and see what he and Grantham can do with the strong foundation that we have at this point.

[Liverpooldawg]

I would go so far as to say anything pre-SEC Network/ESPN welfare money doesn't count.

But it does, until people like me who grew up prior to that are dead and gone, the old perception of MSU is the one that lives on in the media. It's up to ALL of us to change that I've started it for me. After 30 yeArs as a subscriber and longer as a reader, of the Daily Journal, I'm done. I let my subscription expire. The only reason I didn't cancel it is because I wanted them to deliver every single paper they were obligated to.

[Liverpooldawg]

Not very many here are anti Mullen. It's just that you absolutely flip out every time there is a rumor about Dan and another school.

History has some relevance related to period in time. What you are doing would be like me comparing America today to America in the Civil War or Revolutionary period. A lot has changed since 1940. Dan at this point is actually only about one win on average better than Jackie during the same time frame in their careers. And some of that might be because Dan gets to play an extra game against a FCS school every year- something Jackie didn't get to do.

And no question probation absolutely affected us between 2001-2006. It was our fault- but we were not penalized for anything to the point where we had to vacate wins. I would imagine if Ole Miss was allowed to continue to cheat they would be winning 9-10 a year still instead of the 5-6 they have the past two years under investigation.

You can not compare 1950 MSU with today. You're talking about an era with two way players with leather helmets for God's sakes.

In this era we are a top 30 program every year with our ceiling being a top 10 program. And we're in better shape than some blue bloods right now- like Tennessee.

I only flip out when I see "MSU Fans" blasting Dan with false info. In this era we were NOT a Top 30 program, till Dan arrived. There are people that are hell bent on rolling the dice again. It's all I have ever known , till Dan. It ain't for me. We have the first coach AT MSU since I have been alive that has no NCAA baggage,and has won HERE. The cheaters up the road are desperate to convince us he is a loser. To hell with them.

[Todd4State]

I only flip out when I see "MSU Fans" blasting Dan with false info. In this era we were NOT a Top 30 program, till Dan arrived. There are people that are hell bent on rolling the dice again. It's all I have ever known , till Dan. It ain't for me. We have the first coach AT MSU since I have been alive that has no NCAA baggage,and has won HERE. The cheaters up the road are desperate to convince us he is a loser. To hell with them.

That's because your era starts in 1940 or earlier. I've seen you flip out on stuff that people said wasn't true- like Dan to Florida earlier this year. Dan talking to Tennessee was true because Rosebowl reported it as well- and most of us said he wasn't going there. So how are "we" falling for it?

No one here wants Dan gone that I can see except for maybe one guy that everyone disagreed with.

You need to have some confidence in our current administration because the reality of life is Dan will leave at some point- might be 20 years from now or next year. But if the rumor is true that Cohen had Norvell lined up had Dan left and that on the heels of hiring Cann as the baseball coach it gives me confidence that we would make the best hire possible.

[Todd4State]

And on top of that- literally every coach we have hired since Shira has had a winning season and all but one- Felker- at least went to a bowl game. We're in general better about hiring coaches than anyone in the league since 1969.

[Turfdawg67]

Care to ask him where he got some of that excellent inside info over the years. Dude me and Lee are friends. And my intent here wasn?t to bash Lee or ED in anyway. I love ED and defend it to my core. But people can be wrong as well

And for the record I didn?t say Lee was wrong. I said his source was. And as it played out he was. And i am attempt at peace I will leave it at that.

Well good for you and thank you for your info and this site, slick. If you?d kindly reread my post I never said you hadn?t contributed, it said I couldn?t remember. Plus poor ole 34 was getting it from all sides yesterday so I defended him, not that he needs me to.

[Jack Lambert]

Well good for you and thank you for your info and this site, slick. If you?d kindly reread my post I never said you hadn?t contributed, it said I couldn?t remember. Plus poor ole 34 was getting it from all sides yesterday so I defended him, not that he needs me to.

Everyone needs it from all sides every once in a while and when it happens I stay out of it and hope it's not me.:)

[1bigdawg]

Lots of historical factors as well- integration, SEC expansion, rise of the power five conferences. You can't compare 1940 MSU with 2017 MSU.

I would like to compare 2018 MSU to 1940 MSU, at least in the number of losses for the football team.:)

[Liverpooldawg]

I would like to compare 2018 MSU to 1940 MSU, at least in the number of losses for the football team.:)

We were a better program back then under McKeen. What we did with him killed us. Those post McKeen years were the years when today’s blue bloods were becoming what they are. We missed that boat. We are the closest we have come since with Mullen.

[Todd4State]

We were a better program back then under McKeen. What we did with him killed us. Those post McKeen years were the years when today’s blue bloods were becoming what they are. We missed that boat. We are the closest we have come since with Mullen.

Vanderbilt was also a solid program back then as well. We're never going to become a blue blood because of our state population. That's not to say we can't be solid. Arkansas, South Carolina, Ole Miss, and Kentucky never were going to be blue bloods either. Some like Arkansas and Ole Miss were solid for awhile but it wasn't going to last.

You basing everything off of Allyn McKeen getting fired is way off base and just wrong as far as 2017 goes. We've long overcome that probably when we hired Tyler. And you are also leaving out the fact that McKeen's last season we went 4-4 or something like that and he never coached again. Also there are urban legend rumors about him sleeping around with some influential booster's daughter.

Acting like we can't hire another good coach consecutively is crazy as well. History proves you wrong on that too- we hired Darrell Royal and Murray Warmath back to back in the 50's and both went on to win National Titles and are both in the College Football HOF. And that was less than 10 years after McKeen.

[Coach34]

Glad to see Grantham dig in and say he was staying. The irony of that on Mullen is kind of funny

[msstate7]

Glad to see Grantham dig in and say he was staying. The irony of that on Mullen is kind of funny

What you mean? Grantham say he was staying if Mullen left?

[Coach34]

Yep. Promised kid not to move again until after graduation

[msstate7]

Yep. Promised kid not to move again until after graduation

Like that.