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ShotgunDawg
11-08-2017, 11:26 AM
It will be the first TD that we will have scored in the 1st half vs Bama in the Mullen era. Think about that boys.

- We've only scored 6 TDs in 9 years.

- We've yet to have a rushing TD vs Bama in 9 years under Mullen.

- We've only had a lead once in 9 years.

That is futility at it's finest & goes far beyond just recruiting rankings.

Enjoy the atmosphere Saturday night, cheer hard, & celebrate every 1st down. And, if, if we score a TD, realize it's a historical moment

bulldawg28
11-08-2017, 11:27 AM
Lol.... enjoy the process. Gotcha

ShotgunDawg
11-08-2017, 11:30 AM
Lol.... enjoy the process. Gotcha

LOL. No doubt

This leads me again to my overall point this week. Just have fun & let your balls hang out Mullen.

A terrible offensive day vs Bama for us is just another day at the office. We've already done that & that's what I expect again.

So, what is there to be scared about? There should be no fear in this game. Just have fun & go for it.

Tbonewannabe
11-08-2017, 11:34 AM
LOL. No doubt

This leads me again to my overall point this week. Just have fun & let your balls hang out Mullen.

A terrible offensive day vs Bama for us is just another day at the office. We've already done that & that's what I expect again.

So, what is there to be scared about? There should be no fear in this game. Just have fun & go for it.

Anything less than a 60 - 0 blowout is gravy. Go into the game thinking there is nothing to lose and maybe some magic happens.

bulldawg28
11-08-2017, 11:34 AM
LOL. No doubt

This leads me again to my overall point this week. Just have fun & let your balls hang out Mullen.

A terrible offensive day vs Bama for us is just another day at the office. We've already done that & that's what I expect again.

So, what is there to be scared about? There should be no fear in this game. Just have fun & go for it.

I agree. The more loose you are the better. I expect our team to have that LSU edge about them. They're not afraid of Bama. Honestly, I think that's the reason Dak never beat them. He respected them too much. Fitz, is a baddddd man with Ice water In his veins. If you've noticed ALL the teams that have beaten Bama have a Qb with swagger.

tcdog70
11-08-2017, 11:36 AM
17 THE PAST--Saturday is a new day. this game will be a nut cutter.

Leroy Jenkins
11-08-2017, 01:12 PM
The last time we had the lead in a game vs bama Sylvester Croom was the coach.

Coach34
11-08-2017, 01:34 PM
Just the sheer fact we have scored 9 points total in the 1st half vs Bama in the Mullen Era in mind-boggling. Their OOC opponents average alot more than that

ShotgunDawg
11-08-2017, 01:49 PM
Just the sheer fact we have scored 9 points total in the 1st half vs Bama in the Mullen Era in mind-boggling. Their OOC opponents average alot more than that

It's mind boggling.

It goes to show you that this is FAR more than just about Alabama's recruiting ranking vs ours. We have the #24 most talented roster in the country. That type of talent ranking should be sufficient to have faired much better in the points scored department that what we've done.

IMO, it speaks to how Mullen locks up in this game & just hasn't figured out how to get his team prepared to play this game.

When thinking about this, it reminds me of Greg Maddux vs Tony Gwynn: Greg Maddux is one of the top 5 right handed pitchers of all time yet Tony Gwynn hit .415 & with ZERO strike outs in over 100 career ABs vs Maddux. I'm not sure what happened to Maddux's pitching ability when he faced Gwynn but it's clear that it just wasn't a "talent" issue. Was it mental? A bad matchup? I don't know, it was probably a combination of all those things.

YoungB
11-08-2017, 01:49 PM
Saban will focus on taking away Fitz's running. Our Wr have taken themselves out with injuries. That leaves Aeries. Bama will be fine with that. It will be a long game.

MetEdDawg
11-08-2017, 01:57 PM
I told my Bama friends some of these stats and they were blown away. Couldn't believe it was that lopsided. A lot of my Bama friends don't feel good about this game.

Shockingly, virtually all of them point to the 2013 game against us as why they lost to Auburn that year and missed out on a national championship. They feel like we exposed them and made Auburn not as afraid. That team of ours beat Arkansas and Ole Miss just to get to a bowl game. But many of them blame that game against us for them losing to Auburn. And in all honesty we had chances to win that game when Damian Williams came in. Dropped TD passes by Bear and Holloway on two different drives killed us.

Reason I bring that up is because my Bama friends think something similar could happen this year. They are abnormally scared of Auburn and think if Auburn beats UGA they will take Bama down and knock them out of everything. They are unusually uncomfortable about these next couple weeks of games including this one against us.

justwin
11-08-2017, 02:07 PM
It will be the first TD that we will have scored in the 1st half vs Bama in the Mullen era. Think about that boys.

- We've only scored 6 TDs in 9 years.

- We've yet to have a rushing TD vs Bama in 9 years under Mullen.

- We've only had a lead once in 9 years.

That is futility at it's finest & goes far beyond just recruiting rankings.

Enjoy the atmosphere Saturday night, cheer hard, & celebrate every 1st down. And, if, if we score a TD, realize it's a historical moment

This doesn't tell the whole story. How many times have we reached the redzone in 1Q during 9 years?

Liverpooldawg
11-08-2017, 02:13 PM
You guys who are trying to judge our program by using Alabama as THE measuring stick are setting yourself up for a lot of heartache. You do use them, but not as the only one.

thf24
11-08-2017, 02:22 PM
A lot of this has to do with the fact that this is about the time most teams hit their peak, which translates to an exponentially larger gap for a team with that much talent and depth. We also seem to always get their best game execution-wise, which I'd like to think is a sign of respect for us and the way we play.

If we could have gotten them in week three or four like certain others do just a few times, I think some of the numbers would look different, even if not the win column.

ShotgunDawg
11-08-2017, 02:28 PM
This doesn't tell the whole story. How many times have we reached the redzone in 1Q during 9 years?

Not sure. We typically can move the ball but absolutely go to hell in a hand basket in the red zone. We are turning into the Chicago Cubs prior to 2016 vs Alabama. The lovable, inept losers.

Here is may be the worst of the red zone opportunities. This one is from 2015

https://i.imgur.com/WMhQ52o.jpg

Followed by this dandy in 2014

https://i.imgur.com/G135KjW.jpg

ShotgunDawg
11-08-2017, 02:30 PM
You guys who are trying to judge our program by using Alabama as THE measuring stick are setting yourself up for a lot of heartache. You do use them, but not as the only one.

Nobody is measuring our program vs theirs. That's ridiculous.

We are a good team & damn good football program.

What we are discussing is how such a damn good team & football program could possibly be so damn futile against them.

If it were understandable, it wouldn't be mind boggling, but, including my self, others have also called it "mind boggling"

Liverpooldawg
11-08-2017, 02:33 PM
Nobody is measuring our program vs theirs. That's ridiculous.

We are a good team & damn good football program.

What we are discussing is how such a damn good team & football program could possibly be so damn futile against them.

If it were understandable, it wouldn't be mind boggling, but, including my self, others have also called it "mind boggling"

Some are.

HoopsDawg
11-08-2017, 02:40 PM
Just the sheer fact we have scored 9 points total in the 1st half vs Bama in the Mullen Era in mind-boggling. Their OOC opponents average alot more than that

That's a crazy stat. What does it say about our running game scheme? I have felt bad for our RB's since we ditched the FB after Mullen's 2nd year. We just slam Aeris up the middle 15 times a game like he's a FB in the wishbone. That shit doesn't work against Bama or AU or this year's UGA.

dawgday166
11-08-2017, 02:45 PM
Not sure. We typically can move the ball but absolutely go to hell in a hand basket in the red zone. We are turning into the Chicago Cubs prior to 2016 vs Alabama. The lovable, inept losers.

Here is may be the worst of the red zone opportunities. This one is from 2015

https://i.imgur.com/WMhQ52o.jpg

Followed by this dandy in 2014

https://i.imgur.com/G135KjW.jpg

QB draw doesn't work on Bama.

ShotgunDawg
11-08-2017, 02:52 PM
QB draw doesn't work on Bama.

Not typically. With their LBs issues & our OL & Fitz, I could see it working better this year than ever before. Fitz is a better runner than Dak with a better OL

dawgday166
11-08-2017, 02:58 PM
Not typically. With their LBs issues & our OL & Fitz, I could see it working better this year than ever before. Fitz is a better runner than Dak with a better OL

I may tend to think maybe so but, it depends. Probably not if Mullen tries it 3 times in a row from the 9.

Maroonthirteen
11-08-2017, 03:07 PM
I think this thread should focus more on the era of Nick Saban rather than Dan Mullen. However someone mentioned the red zone and I became curious...

Year. Red zone. Result
2016. 0
2015. 1. Downs
2014. 6. FG, FG, Int, TD, Int, TD
2013. 3. MFG, TD, Downs
2012. 3. MFG, int, TD
2011. 3. MFG, MFG, TD
2010. 2. FG, TD
2009. 2. MFG, FG

1991 inside the 5, with a chance to the win the game, about 1 min, downs
1981 inside the 10, with a chance to win the game, less 1 min,interception

It isn't just a Mullen problem.

dawgday166
11-08-2017, 03:09 PM
One good thing about this year. If we get down within their 35 yd line about 7 times, we'll most likely score 21 points *****

louisvilledawg
11-08-2017, 03:51 PM
17 THE PAST--Saturday is a new day. this game will be a nut cutter.

A nut cutter huh

http://images.rapgenius.com/f37a7c7cfd87e30020bb185e31904290.500x281x28.gif

yjnkdawg
11-08-2017, 05:06 PM
A lot of this has to do with the fact that this is about the time most teams hit their peak, which translates to an exponentially larger gap for a team with that much talent and depth. We also seem to always get their best game execution-wise, which I'd like to think is a sign of respect for us and the way we play.

If we could have gotten them in week three or four like certain others do just a few times, I think some of the numbers would look different, even if not the win column.


Seems like Bama is always at their peak when we play them. :(

justwin
11-08-2017, 05:48 PM
I think this thread should focus more on the era of Nick Saban rather than Dan Mullen. However someone mentioned the red zone and I became curious...

Year. Red zone. Result
2016. 0
2015. 1. Downs
2014. 6. FG, FG, Int, TD, Int, TD
2013. 3. MFG, TD, Downs
2012. 3. MFG, int, TD
2011. 3. MFG, MFG, TD
2010. 2. FG, TD
2009. 2. MFG, FG

1991 inside the 5, with a chance to the win the game, about 1 min, downs
1981 inside the 10, with a chance to win the game, less 1 min,interception

It isn't just a Mullen problem.

This is excellent. 2015 & 2016 was Holloway; 2012 & 2013 was Perkins. 2014 was Jrob and the only year we were competitive. Proves that when you play the big RBs, it works. You cant really look at carries but have to look at snaps played. The last two years we gave away the rb threat by playing the small Rb which Bama doesn't have to respect and can key only on qb run. This year, we only have big RBs and auburn & UGA earlier in year proves that Fitz throwing 22+ times will not work. We need to run it with Fitz & Aeris & Kylin & Gibson 80% of the time. Mixon on 4-6 speed sweeps to wind their oversized LBs. Do that & see where the chips fall. We can complete enough short & intermediate passes but have to fire off and run. Also Fitz has to run & pull the option to perfection. There will be ~5 plays if Fitz pulls it properly can house it.

It's not fair to the OL to play small RBs ala 2015.


It's not that Fitz isn't a good passer, but our WRs don't win 50/50 so need to keep the passing attempts down.

We will have the best D they've faced.

Never underestimate homefield advantage in the SEC.

#94 needs to show up. If kimchee can parlay one good game into a 1st round pick then Simmons can to as he's much better player.

It's going to be a great game, better than any of our fans think it will be.