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Coach007
11-07-2017, 11:32 AM
1- TEs vs a depleted LB group. This is the match up. They lost 2 LBs this weekend and those were the back ups. in all a TOTAL of 4 are out. I will take Thomas over Holcombe and Moses any day.

2- That will help with the run game. With our run style, it makes it more difficult to defend when a passing game of any kind is present. It doesn't take much to allow Fitz room. Again, I will take our TEs against their second level guys in rush blocking.

3- Our defense vs their offense... I will take that. We will get our stops and I believe we will hit them hard early and often allowing our offense time to settle.


My final score:

MSU 31
Bama 17

Tbonewannabe
11-07-2017, 11:34 AM
1- TEs vs a depleted LB group. This is the match up. They lost 2 LBs this weekend and those were the back ups. in all a TOTAL of 4 are out. I will take Thomas over Holcombe and Moses any day.

2- That will help with the run game. With our run style, it makes it more difficult to defend when a passing game of any kind is present. It doesn't take much to allow Fitz room. Again, I will take our TEs against their second level guys in rush blocking.

3- Our defense vs their offense... I will take that. We will get our stops and I believe we will hit them hard early and often allowing our offense time to settle.


My final score:

MSU 31
Bama 17

If we win it will probably be the 20 - 17 type game. I doubt Bama loses by more than 7 all year.

Coach34
11-07-2017, 11:49 AM
It would take us 3 games to score 31 points vs Bammer

yjnkdawg
11-07-2017, 11:52 AM
1- TEs vs a depleted LB group. This is the match up. They lost 2 LBs this weekend and those were the back ups. in all a TOTAL of 4 are out. I will take Thomas over Holcombe and Moses any day.

2- That will help with the run game. With our run style, it makes it more difficult to defend when a passing game of any kind is present. It doesn't take much to allow Fitz room. Again, I will take our TEs against their second level guys in rush blocking.

3- Our defense vs their offense... I will take that. We will get our stops and I believe we will hit them hard early and often allowing our offense time to settle.


My final score:

MSU 31
Bama 17


Based upon our history, with Mullen as head coach, that would be about 23 points above our average scoring against Bama, but I hope you are correct.


This is a Nick Saban phiolosophy by yjnk. I never play backup 4 and 5* players who were not highly recruited, don't understand our football phiolosophy , and are not fully prepared to go on the field and make a positive impact.

Homedawg
11-07-2017, 11:57 AM
31 points?????????? Way too early in the morning to be in the sauce

ShotgunDawg
11-07-2017, 11:59 AM
LOL. Us score 31 on Bama? LOLZ

Sorry, I'm a bit like a hitter that is in a huge slump with this game. When hitters go through slumps, they go through different stages of grief. The first stage is logic. If I fix this, then I'll start hitting again. This stage ended for me with the "We Believe" game. The next stage is anger & frustration - This stage reached it's climax when we got our ass handed to us in 2016 at home. The next stage is acceptance & humor about your futile ability. This began last year & continues to this day. This is the stage that many war vets say you have to get to in order to do you job in war when obviously pressure & stress are at a maximum level. This is also the psychological state in which many hitters get out of a slump. The key is that since you are relaxed & accepted your fate, you can now operate more freely & without pressure because you no longer put pressure on yourself. This is the stage you have to get to too beat Alabama.

My issue is that I don't think Dan Mullen is to this stage yet. The B&B show talked today about how uptight Mullen was at his press conference yesterday. Dan, let it go. Stop putting pressure on yourself to beat Bama & call plays & form a game plan that just allows your kids to have fun. Just go for it as if there are no consequences. No one cares if you beat Bama. There are no consequences to your failing in this situation. Just let it go, dial it up, & see what happens &, if you lose, just laugh & talk about what a great opportunity it was to play them. Do that & I think you'll be surprised.

bluelightstar
11-07-2017, 12:00 PM
It would take us 3 games to score 31 points vs Bammer

actually, if you add up our last 3 games vs. Bama, we still don't have 31

TrapGame
11-07-2017, 12:02 PM
I can see Bama 31 - MSU 17 but not the other way around.

chainedup_Dawg
11-07-2017, 12:02 PM
We keep hearing it and I keep waiting for us to lean on our TEs in the passing game and it never seems to really happen. One of those things I'm really starting to lose faith in happening.

gtowndawg
11-07-2017, 12:04 PM
It would take us 3 games to score 31 points vs Bammer

Lol. If we score 31 I'll eat my computer (hoping though computers taste good).

yjnkdawg
11-07-2017, 12:06 PM
Why does it appear that when we play Bama, that we have seemed to play call to keep from losing instead of playing to win? You will never beat Bama like that.

Token Bammer
11-07-2017, 12:11 PM
1- TEs vs a depleted LB group. This is the match up. They lost 2 LBs this weekend and those were the back ups. in all a TOTAL of 4 are out. I will take Thomas over Holcombe and Moses any day.

2- That will help with the run game. With our run style, it makes it more difficult to defend when a passing game of any kind is present. It doesn't take much to allow Fitz room. Again, I will take our TEs against their second level guys in rush blocking.

3- Our defense vs their offense... I will take that. We will get our stops and I believe we will hit them hard early and often allowing our offense time to settle.


My final score:

MSU 31
Bama 17

Mack Wilson and Shaun Dion Hamilton were not back ups. We lost two linebackers in the first game vs FSU and they were both OLB.

Coach007
11-07-2017, 12:11 PM
No doubts that we will disagree on it. Most thought we would be 6-6 and 7-5. I knew posting it would put me out there. :)


This will be a break out game for this team and Mullen

Sacrifice
11-07-2017, 12:13 PM
We keep hearing it and I keep waiting for us to lean on our TEs in the passing game and it never seems to really happen. One of those things I'm really starting to lose faith in happening.
This drives me crazy! Green and Johnson could rally do some damage against Bama but I doubt we use them. We have to find some way to keep the LBs from crashing in every play.

Coach007
11-07-2017, 12:18 PM
Mack Wilson and Shaun Dion Hamilton were not back ups. We lost two linebackers in the first game vs FSU and they were both OLB.

So, your whole LB is down by 4 starters. Inside and outside starters gone. Makes me smile even more

Coach007
11-07-2017, 12:23 PM
This drives me crazy! Green and Johnson could rally do some damage against Bama but I doubt we use them. We have to find some way to keep the LBs from crashing in every play.

Thomas has 3 less catches than Mixon. We use him a good bit.

Statecoachingblows**
11-07-2017, 12:23 PM
We keep hearing it and I keep waiting for us to lean on our TEs in the passing game and it never seems to really happen. One of those things I'm really starting to lose faith in happening.

Been saving it for this week, secrets and what not***

Token Bammer
11-07-2017, 12:32 PM
So, your whole LB is down by 4 starters. Inside and outside starters gone. Makes me smile even more

BAMA plays so many packages that "starters" aren't necessarlity on the field all the time, but Miller and Lewis (OLB pass rush specialist) and Wilson and Hamilton (ILB) are done for a while. We will likely get Lewis or Miller (can't remember which) back by UGA and the other back by playoffs. We will get Wilson back by UGA most likely. Hamilton is done for the year.

We still have Evans (starter) in the middle and Jennings (jack LB) to set the weakside edge. We will be playing Holcombe a lot at the other ILB position who has had a ton of reps this season, and then we are likely to see Moses (freshman) a lot at the other OLB position in regular and on passing downs as a pass rusher. He had 1.5 sacks against LSU.

A few other guys will obviously get reps because we need more depth than 4 players, and they will be young and inexperienced but talented. It's going to be fun to see how it plays out.

1bigdawg
11-07-2017, 12:35 PM
Been saving it for this week, secrets and what not***

Been saving it for years!**

Reason2succeed
11-07-2017, 12:39 PM
1- TEs vs a depleted LB group. This is the match up. They lost 2 LBs this weekend and those were the back ups. in all a TOTAL of 4 are out. I will take Thomas over Holcombe and Moses any day.

2- That will help with the run game. With our run style, it makes it more difficult to defend when a passing game of any kind is present. It doesn't take much to allow Fitz room. Again, I will take our TEs against their second level guys in rush blocking.

3- Our defense vs their offense... I will take that. We will get our stops and I believe we will hit them hard early and often allowing our offense time to settle.


My final score:

MSU 31
Bama 17


I love your thinking and I would gameplan it exactly this way. We are complaining about losing receivers that we were complaining about being midgets when they were playing. Use J. Thomas, Justin Johnson, and Farrod Green as the first team receivers. The actual WRs are backups this game. Use Mixon if healthy on jet sweeps or crossing patterns. Run the ball primarily off tackle but test the middle about five times to keep them honest.

Grantham is better than Diaz and Collins and we have more talent than ever before on defense. Tell the safeties to play the pass and trust the front 7 with run defense so they won’t get burnt...again.

If we win it won’t be a close game. Like all of our games if we win we win big.

msstate7
11-07-2017, 12:54 PM
1997 = state 32-20
2007 = state 17-12

2017, so it is time we win... avg of the scores is 25-16.

Final score:
State 25
Bama 16

Defense scores a td

Dallas_Dawg
11-07-2017, 01:20 PM
Y'all need to share some of that shit you are smoking.

RiverCityDawg
11-07-2017, 01:22 PM
Thomas has 3 less catches than Mixon. We use him a good bit.

Thomas was moved to WR before the season and has been with Billy G's group all year.

Dawgology
11-07-2017, 01:28 PM
It would take us 3 games to score 31 points vs Bammer

This. Anyone calling for a win here is a damn fool.

Final score: 41-13 Bama

PMDawg
11-07-2017, 01:40 PM
Us - 6
Them - Bout Tree fiddy

msstate7
11-07-2017, 01:45 PM
This. Anyone calling for a win here is a damn fool.

Final score: 41-13 Bama

I called a win, but do not really believe. What does it matter though? Why so mad?

Covercorner2
11-07-2017, 02:46 PM
We are 14 point underdogs, and the over/under is 50.5, meaning our implied point total is 18. Those who think we have no shot and/or won't score should parlay Bama and the under. Lock of the year, am I right?

Usually when it's too good to be true and fishy, it is. Hell, even biased State fans don't think there's a chance in hell we keep it close. If you use that philosophy in which you should usualyl bet against Joe Public, we have a shot.

Dawgology
11-07-2017, 03:42 PM
I called a win, but do not really believe. What does it matter though? Why so mad?

Not mad...just don't like people getting their hopes up. Some will call for a win and then have a melt when we get skulldrug this weekend.

I would LOVE to be wrong but history and our teams weaknesses just lead me to believe this may not be bad as last years beat down but it will be close to the Georgia beatdown. I just don't see where some folks are getting this "we have a real shot" talk.

Dawgface
11-07-2017, 04:13 PM
1- TEs vs a depleted LB group. This is the match up. They lost 2 LBs this weekend and those were the back ups. in all a TOTAL of 4 are out. I will take Thomas over Holcombe and Moses any day.

2- That will help with the run game. With our run style, it makes it more difficult to defend when a passing game of any kind is present. It doesn't take much to allow Fitz room. Again, I will take our TEs against their second level guys in rush blocking.

3- Our defense vs their offense... I will take that. We will get our stops and I believe we will hit them hard early and often allowing our offense time to settle.


My final score:

MSU 31
Bama 17

Would love to hear you say 'I told you so' after the game. It will take a miracle to even be in the game.

Commercecomet24
11-07-2017, 04:17 PM
Not saying we win but I do have some hope. We have played 2 common opponents that we beat down and that bama struggled with. We have a shot. If bama comes out and plays like they did against am and lsu we can win. We have to play almost perfect to have a shot

TrapGame
11-07-2017, 04:26 PM
Not saying we win but I do have some hope. We have played 2 common opponents that we beat down and that bama struggled with. We have a shot. If bama comes out and plays like they did against am and lsu we can win. We have to play almost perfect to have a shot

Here's my fear CC24, we play the absolute most perfect game Mullen has ever coached and we win it late in the 4th quarter. The team and coaches give 110%. They are drained mentally and physically after the game. Then we drop the next two games looking like a bunch of chumps. That Bama victory would then be hollow.

BrunswickDawg
11-07-2017, 04:40 PM
Here's my fear CC24, we play the absolute most perfect game Mullen has ever coached and we win it late in the 4th quarter. The team and coaches give 110%. They are drained mentally and physically after the game. Then we drop the next two games looking like a bunch of chumps. That Bama victory would then be hollow.

That's the "Just when you think MSU will break thru we shit bed" Corollary

Jarius
11-07-2017, 04:42 PM
Would love to hear you say 'I told you so' after the game. It will take a miracle to even be in the game.

It will not take a miracle to be in the game. Have you watched Alabama play this year? They are a really good, but they did not dominate the only 2 decent teams (teams that we are better than) that they have played.

chef dixon
11-07-2017, 04:45 PM
It would take us 3 games to score 31 points vs Bammer

Yep.

Mississippi State has been held to single digits in 59 of the 100 games in the series.

TrapGame
11-07-2017, 04:47 PM
That's the "Just when you think MSU will break thru we shit bed" Corollary

And it never fails.

ShotgunDawg
11-07-2017, 05:39 PM
You guys think Fitzpatrick is getting the needle?

This would be super human

Chandler Rome‏ @Chandler_Rome 33m33 minutes ago
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Minkah Fitzpatrick participated w/no noticeable hindrance during the two open periods of #Alabama practice. Had a contraption on hamstring

Dawgology
11-07-2017, 05:47 PM
You guys think Fitzpatrick is getting the needle?

This would be super human

Chandler Rome‏ @Chandler_Rome 33m33 minutes ago
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Minkah Fitzpatrick participated w/no noticeable hindrance during the two open periods of #Alabama practice. Had a contraption on hamstring

No doubt about it. Guess he will push it in the State game. Seems to be a bit shortsighted though. I don't think his presence will make a noticeable difference in our game but it will inthe SEC champ game.

ShotgunDawg
11-07-2017, 05:55 PM
No doubt about it. Guess he will push it in the State game. Seems to be a bit shortsighted though. I don't think his presence will make a noticeable difference in our game but it will inthe SEC champ game.

No doubt. What stands out to me is that he is wearing a hamstring contraption, which means that there is something actually wrong with his hamstring. I have never known anyone that returned for a game, much less practice 3 days later, that suffered any type of hamstring injury

If he is on the field for the first snap, I'm going right at him on the first play. Find out real fast.

It feels like there is some posturing here. Something is being unreported

BoomBoom
11-07-2017, 06:33 PM
1- TEs vs a depleted LB group. This is the match up. They lost 2 LBs this weekend and those were the back ups. in all a TOTAL of 4 are out. I will take Thomas over Holcombe and Moses any day.

2- That will help with the run game. With our run style, it makes it more difficult to defend when a passing game of any kind is present. It doesn't take much to allow Fitz room. Again, I will take our TEs against their second level guys in rush blocking.

3- Our defense vs their offense... I will take that. We will get our stops and I believe we will hit them hard early and often allowing our offense time to settle.


My final score:

MSU 31
Bama 17

you forgot

4- Mullen will completely ignore the mismatch and use the same gameplan he uses for every game.

Dawgface
11-07-2017, 07:12 PM
It will not take a miracle to be in the game. Have you watched Alabama play this year? They are a really good, but they did not dominate the only 2 decent teams (teams that we are better than) that they have played.

We haven't done squat against bama the last few years. I'll believe it when I see it.

Dawgtini
11-07-2017, 08:38 PM
No doubts that we will disagree on it. Most thought we would be 6-6 and 7-5. I knew posting it would put me out there. :)


This will be a break out game for this team and Mullen
Way to put it out there Coach. I too think we can win, and believe like you that it will look more like 2014 vs LSU than 2017 vs UGA. Let?s do this. #HailState

Coach34
11-07-2017, 09:05 PM
Bama is going to load the box. So if we are going to win- it will be because Osiris Mitchell, Jordan Thomas, Reggie Todd, Jamal Couch, and Jesse Jackson beat them

Now say that out loud and see if you believe that can happen

Jarius
11-07-2017, 09:10 PM
We haven't done squat against bama the last few years. I'll believe it when I see it.

We had not done squat against LSU for 20 years. Look at the teams of this year and compare them. We aren?t going to get blown out. Alabama is not what you’re making them out to be in your head this year. They are better than us, but it’s not as big a gap as our fans are making it out to be for this year’s team. What has happened in the past has no impact on Saturday. They are down 4 linebackers and their best player was half speed Saturday, and they have not looked overpowering against anyone worth a shit.

TUSK
11-07-2017, 09:32 PM
Bama is going to load the box. So if we are going to win- it will be because Osiris Mitchell, Jordan Thomas, Reggie Todd, Jamal Couch, and Jesse Jackson beat them

Now say that out loud and see if you believe that can happen

You know more about Xs and Os, but I'd be surprised if Bammer "loads" the box... Don't you think they can get enough pressure with 4 + blitzes, or do you think they just won't respect the threat of a pass, at all???

I don't think we've loaded up on anyone this year... I'm pretty sure we played LSU straight up....

But I'll defer....

dawgday166
11-07-2017, 10:09 PM
You know more about Xs and Os, but I'd be surprised if Bammer "loads" the box... Don't you think they can get enough pressure with 4 + blitzes, or do you think they just won't respect the threat of a pass, at all???

I don't think we've loaded up on anyone this year... I'm pretty sure we played LSU straight up....

But I'll defer....

Well ... you haven't really played anyone yet either. LSU ran a little on you and if Etling was halfway decent y'all would have walked out of Bryant-Denny with an L.

I think you may have to cheat a little in this one. This Bama front 7 ain't like normal Bama front 7s ... and I was thinking so before the injuries. The combination of size, speed, and physicality hasn't been there to my eye. I also have been surprised with our O-line. They ain't half bad (you're welcome Hev).

If, and it's a big IF, Mullen decides to actually game plan a little for this one and not play his usual tippee-toe dance with a good team on offense while he puts his defense deep in the hole every damn possession, then we might can hang for a while. And maybe for most of the game.

Otherwise, he'll probably be pissed at Grantham post-game cause our D sucked because it gave up 275 total yds but also 31 or more points cause Bama had a short field on 3 - 4 TD drives.

Also, I believe it would help if Gibson got some significant carries in this game. He's the most powerful and has the best vision of all our RBs. Aeris might can gain some yards, but against Bama I believe Gibson is the better running option.

Ga has the D that y'all usually have.

ETA: BTW, they were talking about Wisconsin's resume tonight and that they didn't belong where they were. They must not be looking too hard at Bama's resume **

Coach34
11-07-2017, 10:39 PM
You know more about Xs and Os, but I'd be surprised if Bammer "loads" the box... Don't you think they can get enough pressure with 4 + blitzes, or do you think they just won't respect the threat of a pass, at all???

I don't think we've loaded up on anyone this year... I'm pretty sure we played LSU straight up....

But I'll defer....

Ya'll have walked safeties up against us every year- why would this one be any different? 2014 is the only year you guys actually didnt walk down on us heavily

BulldogBear
11-08-2017, 09:45 AM
We keep hearing it and I keep waiting for us to lean on our TEs in the passing game and it never seems to really happen. One of those things I'm really starting to lose faith in happening.

This is where my mind is. I actually think Coach (OP) could be right...if he were CDM. I'm so frustrated right now with the TE thing that I'd be willing to bet unleashing them in this game hasn't even occurred to Mullen. I wish he would let his balls hang out and call this game like we are favored by 10 points.

BulldogBear
11-08-2017, 10:06 AM
We had not done squat against LSU for 20 years. Look at the teams of this year and compare them. We aren?t going to get blown out. Alabama is not what you’re making them out to be in your head this year. They are better than us, but it’s not as big a gap as our fans are making it out to be for this year’s team. What has happened in the past has no impact on Saturday. They are down 4 linebackers and their best player was half speed Saturday, and they have not looked overpowering against anyone worth a shit.

Other than my above mentioned fear that Dan will basically play not to lose, I would actually feel we have a decent shot. Although each had different strengths and difficiencies, I think when drawing a line across the board looking at the level of "goodness " for lack of a better term, this MSU team and the 2014 team are comparable. I do not think this Bammer team is on quite as high a level as the 2014 one. We are the home team this time as well. We have lost badly two times on the road. Don't look at UMass. Those game games happen every Saturday across the nation. Now, they are not Bama...but we have absolutely blown a 7-2 SEC team and a 6-3 SEC team off the blinkin' field. This not last year, nor is it September of this year. We have a chance but have to let it all hang out. I would unleash the TE in this game and bring 8 on Bammer's first play from scrimmage. If you play like Mad Dogs (Coaches included) and get beat, who gives a crap? We're gonna lose anyway right?

BuckyIsAB****
11-08-2017, 11:34 AM
1- TEs vs a depleted LB group. This is the match up. They lost 2 LBs this weekend and those were the back ups. in all a TOTAL of 4 are out. I will take Thomas over Holcombe and Moses any day.

2- That will help with the run game. With our run style, it makes it more difficult to defend when a passing game of any kind is present. It doesn't take much to allow Fitz room. Again, I will take our TEs against their second level guys in rush blocking.

3- Our defense vs their offense... I will take that. We will get our stops and I believe we will hit them hard early and often allowing our offense time to settle.


My final score:

MSU 31
Bama 17

The only team to score that much on Bama as been Deshaun Watson led Clemson teams. We might win but 31-17 you are high

BuckyIsAB****
11-08-2017, 11:37 AM
1997 = state 32-20
2007 = state 17-12

2017, so it is time we win... avg of the scores is 25-16.

Final score:
State 25
Bama 16

Defense scores a td

Beat them in 2006 too