Just watched ESPN "Outside the Lines" segment about UNC and NCAA...

[IMissJack]

Bob Ley had Jay Bilas on to discuss Emmert's (sp?) comments last week about the public not trusting the NCAA, etc. Bilas made the comment that the NCAA pursued an Academic Fraud accusation that they new they could not win for six years. Also talked some about the NCAA basketball issues. Did anyone else see this, and how would it affect the ACT issues up north? Not that I trust Bilas that much when anything relates to UNC or Duke basketball, he is a lawyer and it was interesting. I don't know if these episodes are on the Watch ESPN app or not, but not a bad watch.

[Homedawg]

Bob Ley had Jay Bilas on to discuss Emmert's (sp?) comments last week about the public not trusting the NCAA, etc. Bilas made the comment that the NCAA pursued an Academic Fraud accusation that they new they could not win for six years. Also talked some about the NCAA basketball issues. Did anyone else see this, and how would it affect the ACT issues up north? Not that I trust Bilas that much when anything relates to UNC or Duke basketball, he is a lawyer and it was interesting. I don't know if these episodes are on the Watch ESPN app or not, but not a bad watch.

Again, the unc case and ole miss case have zero to do with each other. Even the academic parts aren't even similar. Ole miss committed act fraud. See u la la
ETA- why would bilas want to protect unc? He's a duke guy. He knows it was a crapshoot from the beginning

[Jack Lambert]

UNC set up fake courses that athletes would get a good grade. The reason the NCAA could not do anything about it was because it was opened up to the entire student body. At that point it was a academic issue only pertaining to the school and their certification. Now if it was set up only for football players, the coaches directed the football players to take it they would have been in trouble. It's my understanding that the coaches knew about the course but they were not involved in the creations. So they said.

Plus it's North Carolina the Alabama of Basketball.

[IMissJack]

Again, the unc case and ole miss case have zero to do with each other. Even the academic parts aren't even similar. Ole miss committed act fraud. See u la la
ETA- why would bilas want to protect unc? He's a duke guy. He knows it was a crapshoot from the beginning

Because he tends to push the elites of bb, which would include UNC.

[Homedawg]

Because he tends to push the elites of bb, which would include UNC.

So he would defend his arch rival just because he wanted to be politically correct? Uh huh. Fact is the NCAA had a bad case and they knew it. They changed the noi 3 times. Second one took out everything that was halfway bad. Then Sankey asked them to put it back. And the coi didn't buy it. Just how it worked.

[Ari Gold]

And homedog perfectly ends this thread ... Well done.

[Commercecomet24]

So he would defend his arch rival just because he wanted to be politically correct? Uh huh. Fact is the NCAA had a bad case and they knew it. They changed the noi 3 times. Second one took out everything that was halfway bad. Then Sankey asked them to put it back. And the coi didn't buy it. Just how it worked.

This!

[dawgs]

UNC set up fake courses that athletes would get a good grade. The reason the NCAA could not do anything about it was because it was opened up to the entire student body. At that point it was a academic issue only pertaining to the school and their certification. Now if it was set up only for football players, the coaches directed the football players to take it they would have been in trouble. It's my understanding that the coaches knew about the course but they were not involved in the creations. So they said.

Plus it's North Carolina the Alabama of Basketball.

Fwiw they weren’t “fake” classes. They existed and there was a curriculum. They just made sure everyone got an easy A and that all the athletes knew which classes to sign up for. Is it the NCAA’s place to tell the university how hard their courses should be? I don’t think so. It’s always been more of an accreditation issue than an NCAA issue.

[IMissJack]

So he would defend his arch rival just because he wanted to be politically correct? Uh huh. Fact is the NCAA had a bad case and they knew it. They changed the noi 3 times. Second one took out everything that was halfway bad. Then Sankey asked them to put it back. And the coi didn't buy it. Just how it worked.

Thanks for the explanation. I think that was what Bilas was saying, they pursued it for 6 years, but was probably unwinnable the whole time.