ESPN SEC Power Rankings: More Ridiculouness

[ShotgunDawg]

http://www.espn.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/130549/sec-week-8-power-rankings-lsu-creeping-back-into-the-picture

So not only is MSU ranked below a team it beat by 30 points and a team that it is favored to beat on the road in a night game, MSU is also now apparently worse than a team in which it shares the same record and 2 common opponents with. The first opponent La Tech MSU beat to death on the road while SC needed a last second FG to beat at home and the other Kentucky, MSU blew out while SC lost to Kentucky by 10 at home.

Sure, I get it, it doesn’t matter, but it does because it shapes perception. Why does MSU have such a higher burden of proof than virtually anyone in college football?

Why does this keep happening?

Does ESPN employ college graduates?

Is this why it seems like Mullen overachieves every year?

I get tradition, but we’ve been to 8 straight bowl games folks. That excuse has to be thrown out and it’s not like SC has a decent tradition

What gives?

[msstate7]

They have vandy above OM too lol

Shotgun, dude, quit reading CFB news and listening to local radio. All media reports now are strictly based on getting hits or more people to listen. It is all garbage now

[Duckdog]

Our history of sucking. Sad but true

[TrapGame]

Beat the Aggies in College Station. It's the only remedy.

[Reason2succeed]

WE've got to do a better job of PR along with winning to change the narrative. We have no media people on ESPN or SEC Network. We need Matt Wyatt (I know, I know) or someone there that will stump for State. It will take to long for Dak to get there and he may end up doing movies first.*

[ShotgunDawg]

Our history of sucking. Sad but true

South Carolina’s sucks as well. We’ve been to 8 straight bowl games. Stop taking up for ignorance.

[ShotgunDawg]

Beat the Aggies in College Station. It's the only remedy.

Ridiculous that it comes down to that.

[ShotgunDawg]

They have vandy above OM too lol

Shotgun, dude, quit reading CFB news and listening to local radio. All media reports now are strictly based on getting hits or more people to listen. It is all garbage now

I hear you but if we don’t fight ignorance, who will?

[Bubb Rubb]

Meaningless rankings are meaningless.

We beat A&M and it will get fixed. We will jump into their top 4/5.

[msstate7]

South Carolina lost to Kentucky at home 23-13... South Carolina > state makes perfect sense**

Why do you guys let this bother you? It is abundantly clear ESPN has some real dummies working there

[ShotgunDawg]

Meaningless rankings are meaningless.

We beat A&M and it will get fixed. We will jump into their top 4/5.

They really aren’t ridiculous when this happens every.single, time.

It affects the perception of the program. Makes people believe Mullen over achieves every year, when, while he’s a good coach, he’s just more or less consistent with where MSU recruits.

[msstate7]

We have 2 common opponents with South Carolina...

They lost to KY at home 23-13; we beat KY at home 45-7.

They beat LA Tech at home 17-16; we beat LA Tech 57-21 on the road.

Lets transitive property this... there was a 48 point difference in us vs KY. There was was a 35 point difference in us vs LA tech. So we are on avg 41.5 points better than South Carolina.

South Carolina lost at aTm by 7. We should beat aTm by 34-35 points. Do not argue... it is settled haha

[ShotgunDawg]

South Carolina lost to Kentucky at home 23-13... South Carolina > state makes perfect sense**

Why do you guys let this bother you? It is abundantly clear ESPN has some real dummies working there

Because ESPN shapes the perception of college football, which affects recruiting, bowls, etc

I think this type of ignorance is well worth exposing. Why would anyone want our program not represented correctly ?

[Tbonewannabe]

http://www.espn.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/130549/sec-week-8-power-rankings-lsu-creeping-back-into-the-picture

So not only is MSU ranked below a team it beat by 30 points and a team that it is favored to beat on the road in a night game, MSU is also now apparently worse than a team in which it shares the same record and 2 common opponents with. The first opponent La Tech MSU beat to death on the road while SC needed a last second FG to beat at home and the other Kentucky, MSU blew out while SC lost to Kentucky by 10 at home.

Sure, I get it, it doesn’t matter, but it does because it shapes perception. Why does MSU have such a higher burden of proof than virtually anyone in college football?

Why does this keep happening?

Does ESPN employ college graduates?

Is this why it seems like Mullen overachieves every year?

I get tradition, but we’ve been to 8 straight bowl games folks. That excuse has to be thrown out and it’s not like SC has a decent tradition

What gives?

It is punishment for getting our asses kicked in Athens. Several guys thought after the beatdown we put on LSU that we would win in Athens. We got the shit kicked out of us 2 weeks in a row so we are going to have to pay the price. We win at A&M and then we will be favored in every game but Bama.

[ShotgunDawg]

It is punishment for getting our asses kicked in Athens. Several guys thought after the beatdown we put on LSU that we would win in Athens. We got the shit kicked out of us 2 weeks in a row so we are going to have to pay the price. We win at A&M and then we will be favored in every game but Bama.

That’s fine but why isn’t LSU punished for us kicking this shit out of them or why isn’t SC punished for Kentucky kicking the shit out of them?

You logic is fine but what’s wrong is that logic isn’t being applied across college football.

Why do we get punished and not others?

[Tbonewannabe]

They also had a 3-3 UF team ahead of 5-2 UK. UK should have beaten UF also. It isn't like some of those rankings make sense.

[Tbonewannabe]

That’s fine but why isn’t LSU punished for us kicking this shit out of them or why isn’t SC punished for Kentucky kicking the shit out of them?

You logic is fine but what’s wrong is that logic isn’t being applied across college football.

Why do we get punished and not others?

I think because after we beat LSU, people were saying "This MSU team is for real, they will challenge Bama this year". People were hyping us up before the UGA game and then insert big steaming pile of shit where our effort would be. We then followed that up with another against AU. If we had rebounded and even just lost a close one then it is different. Now it looks like the LSU game was more of the fluke than our losses. UK isn't respected either even though they are probably the 2nd best team in the East.

[MarketingBully]

Those idiots had us tenth last week. Alex Scarborough is an idiot and so is Sam Khan so consider the source.

[MarketingBully]

I think because after we beat LSU, people were saying "This MSU team is for real, they will challenge Bama this year". People were hyping us up before the UGA game and then insert big steaming pile of shit where our effort would be. We then followed that up with another against AU. If we had rebounded and even just lost a close one then it is different. Now it looks like the LSU game was more of the fluke than our losses. UK isn't respected either even though they are probably the 2nd best team in the East.

Agreed. Had we shone up against UGA and Auburn, they would have a different perception of us. Play like shit two weeks in a row on national TV and you become irrelevant really quick in this ADD society.

[Todd4State]

I think the only way to change perception is to beat Alabama. Fair or not. (It's not)

If we beat A&M on the road, play Alabama close in Starkville and then win out including the bowl game we should get some respect this offseason.

[Liverpooldawg]

It’s ESPN shotgun. They have their little colony of Confederates. Also getting blown out by UGA and Auburn is the perception of us right now. If we beat A&M it will help. You will be happier if you quit paying attention to them.

[Tbonewannabe]

I think the only way to change perception is to beat Alabama. Fair or not. (It's not)

If we beat A&M on the road, play Alabama close in Starkville and then win out including the bowl game we should get some respect this offseason.

We end up 9-3 regular season then 10-3 or 9-4 in a close loss then we are more than likely top 15 preseason next year. We would have a lot of returning starters and having Fitz and Simmons as the face of the offense and defense returning.

[ShotgunDawg]

I think the only way to change perception is to beat Alabama. Fair or not. (It's not)

If we beat A&M on the road, play Alabama close in Starkville and then win out including the bowl game we should get some respect this offseason.

When did LSU or SC beat Bama recently?

[MadDawg]

That?s fine but why isn?t LSU punished for us kicking this shit out of them or why isn?t SC punished for Kentucky kicking the shit out of them?

You logic is fine but what?s wrong is that logic isn?t being applied across college football.

Why do we get punished and not others?

Because winning a game against a top opponent (Auburn) is valued more than losing to an inferior opponent (Troy)? Hell I don't know. But you are going to drive yourself crazy trying to make sense of this b.s.

[Ari Gold]

If u want TRUE rankings, Veags is who should be called upon. They would have zero bias because they can't . They have a much better understand of college football than anyone including ESPN.
My guess if Vegas was to rank the SEC teams as of today they would have us 4th or 5th ..
So **** 3/4 of the sec and espn voters

[Commercecomet24]

Because winning a game against a top opponent (Auburn) is valued more than losing to an inferior opponent (Troy)? Hell I don't know. But you are going to drive yourself crazy trying to make sense of this b.s.

Yep people been frustrated at the polls for years. Can't let it drive you crazy.The only one that counts is the one after the last game is played anyway.

[Todd4State]

When did LSU or SC beat Bama recently?

The truth is both have beaten Alabama more recently than we have. LSU has comepted for National Titles recently and they have a reputation in the media for having a lot of talent. Their reputation recently was built by Saban and Miles. I think at the end of the day they get blown out by Bama but that hasn't happened yet and I think A&M will be a toss up game for them. Personally, I think in the long run they are on the beginning of a downswing sort of like when DiNardo took over and they had some big moments like beating Florida but ultimately at the end of the day they will drop down. They weren't all that impressive against Ole Miss to me on defense and everyone runs and scores on Ole Miss. South Carolina is average- I get that- and there isn't a defense for that. I think if we played South Carolina it would look a lot like the Kentucky game for us this year.

My point is I think it will all settle out in the end as long as we take care of business. I think LSU ends up 8-4 or 9-3 and that should make them a top 25 team. And we need to be pulling for Kentucky because they could win anywhere between 7 and 9 games depending on if they can beat Tennessee and Louisville and Lexington. If they end up winning 8 or 9 they stand a good chance of being ranked as well. A&M is similar if we beat them that could be another good win as well.

It's like Jackie Sherrill used to say- people remember what you did in November and he's right about that.

[ShotgunDawg]

Yep people been frustrated at the polls for years. Can't let it drive you crazy.The only one that counts is the one after the last game is played anyway.

Stop telling yourself this. It’s wrong.

Rankings affect ESPN highlights, who gets talked about on Gameday, recruiting, and overall perception of the program and school. Again, your belief just doesn’t hold water.

[ShotgunDawg]

The truth is both have beaten Alabama more recently than we have. LSU has comepted for National Titles recently and they have a reputation in the media for having a lot of talent. Their reputation recently was built by Saban and Miles. I think at the end of the day they get blown out by Bama but that hasn't happened yet and I think A&M will be a toss up game for them. Personally, I think in the long run they are on the beginning of a downswing sort of like when DiNardo took over and they had some big moments like beating Florida but ultimately at the end of the day they will drop down. They weren't all that impressive against Ole Miss to me on defense and everyone runs and scores on Ole Miss. South Carolina is average- I get that- and there isn't a defense for that. I think if we played South Carolina it would look a lot like the Kentucky game for us this year.

My point is I think it will all settle out in the end as long as we take care of business. I think LSU ends up 8-4 or 9-3 and that should make them a top 25 team. And we need to be pulling for Kentucky because they could win anywhere between 7 and 9 games depending on if they can beat Tennessee and Louisville and Lexington. If they end up winning 8 or 9 they stand a good chance of being ranked as well. A&M is similar if we beat them that could be another good win as well.

It's like Jackie Sherrill used to say- people remember what you did in November and he's right about that.

Your not grasping the point.

[Bothrops]

ESPN is largely made up of biased and uninformed media people now. This is a by-product of ESPN becoming more and more left of center as a cable network.

[Commercecomet24]

Stop telling yourself this. It’s wrong.

Rankings affect ESPN highlights, who gets talked about on Gameday, recruiting, and overall perception of the program and school. Again, your belief just doesn’t hold water.

Dude you're not grasping it. While I agree its all about perception I choose not to let it drive me crazy like you do. You're obsessing about it.

[Tbonewannabe]

Your not grasping the point.

I get what you are saying but the back to back losses were media killers. We have to do more than beat a shitty BYU team and UK who we were predicted to beat at home. We had numerous media members saying we should beat UGA at Athens. We were the favorite in the game and then we got DOMINATED. We then had people say maybe it was just a bump in the road and they will bounce back at Auburn. We then got DOMINATED AGAIN. We already have somewhat of a reputation of never upsetting great teams under Dan.

Media went out on a limb saying we were legit because of what we did to LSU and it blew up in their face. If we were even competitive in those games then we would have A LOT more respect from the media. We have to earn it back and it started last weekend but this weekend is even more important. We can survive getting blown out by Bama (which everyone is doing) but winning the rest gets us in the top 15 -20 by the end of the year, maybe 10-15 if we actually make a game of Bama.

[yjnkdawg]

Power rankings don't win football games. That has been proven. Blowouts by GA and Auburn blew ours. THe blowout of BYU and a blowout of KY didn't mean much to those doing the rankngs. Look at BYU"s record and most thought KY was over rated. The LSU win is now looking better, but I agree exactly with what Todd said. It may not be fair, but it is what it is.

[yjnkdawg]

Dude you're not grasping it. While I agree its all about perception I choose not to let it drive me crazy like you do. You're obsessing about it.


I agree 100% and national perception can't be changed on a message board either. For anybody to read everything in the sport's media either that affects their team direclty, or indirectly, and then go nuclear on anything that they don't agree on is not good for that person's well being and health. As C24 said I'm not going to let it drive me crazy and hopefully you will chill some too.

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

ESPN is largely made up of biased and uninformed media people now. This is a by-product of ESPN becoming more and more left of center as a cable network.

Yep. Socialism Induced Cranal Rectal Inversion. Most dianosed don’t want to be helped or cured. An even higher percentage don’t even know they are infected.

[TaleofTwoDogs]

It is punishment for getting our asses kicked in Athens. Several guys thought after the beatdown we put on LSU that we would win in Athens. We got the shit kicked out of us 2 weeks in a row so we are going to have to pay the price. We win at A&M and then we will be favored in every game but Bama.

^^This^^

Our respect wall is made out of sand and the minute it takes a hit (like UGA & Auburn) we will feel the media's disrespect. If we had played it close and loss I think the respect would be higher, like 8th or 9th in the power ranking.

[Maroonthirteen]

Handicapper was on midday show of sports 56 today. They were discussing the line for our game moving and being so close. Greg Gaston the host said more than once that State was an average team and aTm would beat us easily. (Noted For the record)

The guest handicapper said State is an average team that has piled on points against other average teams. But we aren't a great team. I'm still trying to make sense of that. We are able to pile on points against average teams but we are not really that much better than our opponents????

Anyways that is the national perception right now. We really need to beat aTm and give Bama a game.

[Quaoarsking]

If u want TRUE rankings, Veags is who should be called upon. They would have zero bias because they can't . They have a much better understand of college football than anyone including ESPN.
My guess if Vegas was to rank the SEC teams as of today they would have us 4th or 5th ..
So **** 3/4 of the sec and espn voters

Agreed that Vegas will give us a very good ranking of who the best teams are in theory, but I think, for example, a 5-2 team that beat a 4-3 team should be ranked ahead of them (assuming roughly equal SOS), even if the 4-3 team is "better" and would win most of the time they played. Vegas would disagree with me on that.

[maroonmania]

Beat the Aggies in College Station. It's the only remedy.

No it won't, that remedy won't last longer than it will take for Bama to beat the crap out of us the next week.