Rebel Rags lawsuit [Archive]

Tbonewannabe

10-20-2017, 12:21 PM

Judge denied motions to change venue and sever cases this morning. Kobe Jones's lawyer says they will appeal to the Supreme Court, Merkel says he expected that.

Why would a judge deny? It wasn't like Kobe and Leo would have been in the same room when interviewed by the NCAA. Those 2 interviews have nothing to do with each other. Sounds like they got a UM friendly judge and they knew it would be bullshit like that.

beretta

10-20-2017, 12:23 PM

great! they deny motions.....keep appealing all the way to supreme court. further proof Yancy, chuck, et al will all be in a nursing home before this case sees a courtroom....

Kobe and LL will have been retired from the NFL, and the Marlboro man's business will be a JC Penny's by then.

msbulldog

10-20-2017, 12:29 PM

Why would a judge deny? It wasn't like Kobe and Leo would have been in the same room when interviewed by the NCAA. Those 2 interviews have nothing to do with each other. Sounds like they got a UM friendly judge and they knew it would be bullshit like that.

The judge did his undergrad at MSU, his ruling states:This court finds defendants Jones and Lewis have been properly joined under Rule 20(a) as the relief asserted against these defendants arises from the same transaction, occurrence, or same series of transactions or occurrences, and common questions or law or fact to all parties will arise in action," Luther's ruling stated.

Todd4State

10-20-2017, 12:41 PM

Does Ole Miss really want this going to trial?

msudawglb

10-20-2017, 12:52 PM

Does Ole Miss really want this going to trial?

I have no idea how it could go to court. LL and KJ made their claims to the NCAA in private and they have not gone on record since about the case. The NCAA published their NOA with names redacted as well as Rebel Rags business name redacted. Ole Miss is the ones that released the names in their response to the NCAA.

You can't sue LL and KJ for slander and lost business when they weren't the ones that made it public. Rebel Rags should be suing Ole Miss.

thf24

10-20-2017, 12:57 PM

Rebel Rags should be suing Ole Miss.

Which is exactly what Terry Warren would do if he himself actually wanted to sue anyone. He's just being a good (dissociated) booster and doing the university's bidding. If it isn't thrown out first, I expect him to drop the suit once it becomes clear beyond a shadow of a doubt that it won't do OM any good.

Spiderman

10-20-2017, 01:11 PM

Which is exactly what Terry Warren would do if he himself actually wanted to sue anyone. He's just being a good (dissociated) booster and doing the university's bidding. If it isn't thrown out first, I expect him to drop the suit once it becomes clear beyond a shadow of a doubt that it won't do OM any good.

He's not dissociated. OM denies that it happened also. For the COI to figure out as it pertains to the NCAA case. Gonna be interesting to see how they rule on it.

And the whole thing of the lawsuit is the guy has to prove that not only did they conspire against him, but that his business has suffered because of it.

Hell, every State fan should order something for an Ole Miss buddy or family member for Christmas from them.

Doggie_Style

10-20-2017, 01:19 PM

He's not dissociated. OM denies that it happened also. For the COI to figure out as it pertains to the NCAA case. Gonna be interesting to see how they rule on it.

And the whole thing of the lawsuit is the guy has to prove that not only did they conspire against him, but that his business has suffered because of it.

Hell, every State fan should order something for an Ole Miss buddy or family member for Christmas from them.

That's correct and it is IMPOSSIBLE to prove that their business has been affected since the impending sanctions and self imposed sanctions have occurred contemporaneously with the RR/Leo incident. If anything hurt their business it is that.

I seriously doubt this sees a jury.

Mimi's Babies

10-20-2017, 01:24 PM

Maroonthirteen

10-20-2017, 01:28 PM

That's correct and it is IMPOSSIBLE to prove that their business has been affected since the impending sanctions and self imposed sanctions have occurred contemporaneously with the RR/Leo incident. If anything hurt their business it is that.

I seriously doubt this sees a jury.

My OM friend just said the other day, they don't go in RR on game days because it is so crowded.

The only slander going here is that against Lewis and Jones. I hope the COI takes into account OM has dragged these student athletes through the mud to save their own ass. They really need the death penalty to full understand and take responsibility for their actions.

Anyway...... surely this is dismissed when OM still can't prove in discovery a shred of knowledge who the other 15 John Does are. How the hell do you prove a conspiracy among at least 17 people when you don't know who 15 are. Ridiculous.

starkvegasdawg

10-20-2017, 01:29 PM

No way fair trial there. Already saw people on Nafoom saying they hope they get picked for the jury.

confucius say

10-20-2017, 01:34 PM

Why would a judge deny? It wasn't like Kobe and Leo would have been in the same room when interviewed by the NCAA. Those 2 interviews have nothing to do with each other. Sounds like they got a UM friendly judge and they knew it would be bullshit like that.

The conspiracy claim. The claim alleges a John Doe (allegedly Mullen) conspired with the named defendants and urged them to lie about RR. Not my words, read the order. That's the only claim keeping venue in Lafayette county.

The key is, without Miller as part of the conspiracy, venue is improper. That is the point I would make on appeal, because there is not even a scintilla of evidence, nor is it plausible (which is the standard at the motion to dismiss stage), not is it even alleged by RR, that Miller was part of a conspiracy led by Mullen.

Pollodawg

10-20-2017, 01:34 PM

He'll never prove damages. They could hold the trial on Mars. Lol

TrapGame

10-20-2017, 01:51 PM

The comments to this on SDS are hilarious. One idiot is saying Leo is looking at jail time. Another one is swearing once this case is won it will be used to overturn anything NCAA does to them.

To quote my late grandfather talking about the neighbors: "Those sons of bitches are crazy."

msudawglb

10-20-2017, 01:54 PM

I bet the University was channeling money to RR and RR was cooking the books and showing that as profit and probably storing that profit in red duffle bags hidden in rooms a the Inn. Now that the NCAA has come around, the University stopped sending money which is going to show that RR's profits are way down. Hence the lawsuit for damages.

shannondawg

10-20-2017, 02:18 PM

Didn't I see that Mar's bill was $250K for Nutt's lawsuit which LSharks had to pay? I wonder what RR's bill is going to be? Good luck getting it paid by Leo or Kobe.

Tripp McNeely

10-20-2017, 02:28 PM

Does Ole Miss really want this going to trial?

Good lord no!! Which amazes me that it's gotten this far! The discovery phase would be magical!!! A Tom Mars-esque link or two would cause them to drop it "with the quickness"!

Tbonewannabe

10-20-2017, 03:51 PM

Good lord no!! Which amazes me that it's gotten this far! The discovery phase would be magical!!! A Tom Mars-esque link or two would cause them to drop it "with the quickness"!

So RR would have to prove that Miller, Leo, and Kobe were instructed by "John Doe" to lie to the NCAA in an attempt to damage RR. What kind of proof do they think they can dig up? It isn't like he can use the photoshopped twitter message that Fancy was showing off. You would also need some type of motive since there is none. Why would Leo or Kobe want to risk their eligibility on lying to the NCAA to damage some random guy that runs a UM store? There is zero common sense in this lawsuit.

Although I guess it is the type of thing UM would try to do to MSU so I guess that is why they think it is possible. Kind of like Devinner getting in UM's pocket and saying whatever they could get to stick on Redmond. It is like that crazy spouse that is sure their significant other is cheating on them only to find out that they are banging the neighbor all along.

confucius say

10-20-2017, 05:22 PM

So RR would have to prove that Miller, Leo, and Kobe were instructed by "John Doe" to lie to the NCAA in an attempt to damage RR. What kind of proof do they think they can dig up? It isn't like he can use the photoshopped twitter message that Fancy was showing off. You would also need some type of motive since there is none. Why would Leo or Kobe want to risk their eligibility on lying to the NCAA to damage some random guy that runs a UM store? There is zero common sense in this lawsuit.

Although I guess it is the type of thing UM would try to do to MSU so I guess that is why they think it is possible. Kind of like Devinner getting in UM's pocket and saying whatever they could get to stick on Redmond. It is like that crazy spouse that is sure their significant other is cheating on them only to find out that they are banging the neighbor all along.

That is what they would have to prove for the conspiracy claim, that at least two of them conspired. But for venue to be proper in Lafayette county, they have to allege (and survive a motion to dismiss) that Miller was part of the conspiracy.

If not, by law the cases should be severed and LL and KJ cases transferred to okt county.

parabrave

10-20-2017, 05:28 PM

If they want to end this just subpoena RRs books.

Dawgowar

10-20-2017, 05:32 PM

They are about to have the media lambasting them after the NCAA rules. The optics of this is something I would not want in this day and age. Particularly with several sports outlets know touting themselves as 'agents of change'. Double that sentiment with their love of the long lost 'HERITAGE' - right now every school they recruit against is already using this suit against them.

The longer this goes on, the more damage it does to their efforts. I trust what the lawyers around this board and elsewhere have said. Our kids will get through this okay.

F them shitbirds.

Mimi's Babies

10-20-2017, 06:40 PM

If they want to end this just subpoena RRs books.

I will help pay for the forensic auditor.. I know one here that might just help us out...

yjnkdawg

10-20-2017, 06:50 PM

Mimi's Babies

10-20-2017, 06:54 PM

Nothing surprising there.

The so called judge -- has his bull s..... degree from MSU... Wonder where the money came from?

RocketDawg

10-20-2017, 06:54 PM

The judge did his undergrad at MSU, his ruling states:This court finds defendants Jones and Lewis have been properly joined under Rule 20(a) as the relief asserted against these defendants arises from the same transaction, occurrence, or same series of transactions or occurrences, and common questions or law or fact to all parties will arise in action," Luther's ruling stated.

Why don't these guys (lawyers and judges) just speak plain English?? What he said just doesn't make sense. Maybe it would after 5 or 6 readings if you really concentrated.

yjnkdawg

10-20-2017, 06:55 PM

Does Ole Miss really want this going to trial?

If we actually knew if Merkel is doing this on his on, paid by RR, or another party it would shed some light on this.

yjnkdawg

10-20-2017, 06:59 PM

The so called judge -- has his bull s..... degree from MSU... Wonder where the money came from?

Good question and also to know what Merkel's agenda is. In other words what was his reasoning for taking this case.

Schultzy

10-20-2017, 07:28 PM

The judge is just cya he knows it’ll never go to court.

Mimi's Babies

10-20-2017, 07:54 PM

Why don't these guys (lawyers and judges) just speak plain English?? What he said just doesn't make sense. Maybe it would after 5 or 6 readings if you really concentrated.

So this judge is staying that all of the occurances happened at the same time which would be a lie. These happened to the same business committing the same illegal activities

Mimi's Babies

10-20-2017, 07:57 PM

Good question and also to know what Merkel's agenda is. In other words what was his reasoning for taking this case.

IF the said plaintiff is in such dire financial straight how would he afford an attorney. Filing suit against 2 college students is foolish in the least

Mimi's Babies

10-20-2017, 08:02 PM

I have no idea how it could go to court. LL and KJ made their claims to the NCAA in private and they have not gone on record since about the case. The NCAA published their NOA with names redacted as well as Rebel Rags business name redacted. Ole Miss is the ones that released the names in their response to the NCAA.

You can't sue LL and KJ for slander and lost business when they weren't the ones that made it public. Rebel Rags should be suing Ole Miss.

Kk and LL should be sueing ole piss for defamation of character, FERPA LAW violations, slander, etc. Hang om

yjnkdawg

10-20-2017, 08:04 PM

IF the said plaintiff is in such dire financial straight how would he afford an attorney. Filing suit against 2 college students is foolish in the least

Exactly

yjnkdawg

10-20-2017, 08:12 PM

I have no idea how it could go to court. LL and KJ made their claims to the NCAA in private and they have not gone on record since about the case. The NCAA published their NOA with names redacted as well as Rebel Rags business name redacted. Ole Miss is the ones that released the names in their response to the NCAA.

You can't sue LL and KJ for slander and lost business when they weren't the ones that made it public. Rebel Rags should be suing Ole Miss.

If by some remote chance that Rebel Rags decided to sue OM, then RR would be shutting their OM related business operation down permanently.

Mimi's Babies

10-20-2017, 09:02 PM

If by some remote chance that Rebel Rags decided to sue OM, then RR would be shutting their OM related business operation down permanently.

Please explain how he purchased a PLANE in October 2016? He's not hurting

Ezsoil

10-20-2017, 09:19 PM

You have to remember that it Barney who has the phone calls with Warren ....I would love to get Barney, Kiffin, Fat Matt, and Freeze under oath...the shitbirds don't realize that Leo and Kobe didn't do anything illegal and I'd bet that after a good rectal exam Ole Terry will have some unfinished business with the IRS

Spiderman

10-20-2017, 11:01 PM

Didn't I see that Mar's bill was $250K for Nutt's lawsuit which LSharks had to pay? I wonder what RR's bill is going to be? Good luck getting it paid by Leo or Kobe.

Fee? For RR to their lawyer? .................Hahahahahahahaha!!

Spiderman

10-20-2017, 11:03 PM

Good lord no!! Which amazes me that it's gotten this far! The discovery phase would be magical!!! A Tom Mars-esque link or two would cause them to drop it "with the quickness"!

If you didn't see Merkel's quote in the CL, it was that his hope is to depose Kobe and Leo as soon as possible.

That's all they want.

They could care less about winning the suit.

Mimi's Babies

10-21-2017, 05:38 AM

I don't believe that the depositions will happen anytime soon IF EVER. RR only thinks he wants a part of Kj and LL they also know who, what, where, when about the bribery, clothes and other illegal benefits. The inn @ole ... And roundsavilles daughter owning the restruant there will all come out.

Tripp McNeely

10-21-2017, 09:09 AM

If you didn't see Merkel's quote in the CL, it was that his hope is to depose Kobe and Leo as soon as possible.

That's all they want.

They could care less about winning the suit.

The problem is, once the Discovery phase has begun, Leo and Kobes lawyers have free reign to request and depose WHOEVER and WHATEVER they want as well! Who gives a crap if Leo and Kobe are deposed?? The NCAA sure doesn't...they already closed the case...but, can you imagine the possibilities of what may be uncovered if our side starts digging and questioning people under oath??

yjnkdawg

10-21-2017, 09:16 AM

The problem is, once the Discovery phase has begun, Leo and Kobes lawyers have free reign to request and depose WHOEVER and WHATEVER they want as well! Who gives a crap if Leo and Kobe are deposed?? The NCAA sure doesn't...they already closed the case...but, can you imagine the possibilities of what may be uncovered if our side starts digging and questioning people under oath??

I can just not see any logical reason why the OM Administration would be supporting, or pushing this lawsuit forward as some think they are.

TrapGame

10-21-2017, 09:17 AM

The problem is, once the Discovery phase has begun, Leo and Kobes lawyers have free reign to request and depose WHOEVER and WHATEVER they want as well! Who gives a crap if Leo and Kobe are deposed?? The NCAA sure doesn't...they already closed the case...but, can you imagine the possibilities of what may be uncovered if our side starts digging and questioning people under oath??

Escorts got free om gear to look like innocent sorority girls.**

Tripp McNeely

10-21-2017, 09:27 AM

Just think about this...well use Freeze as an example...think about ALL of the things that have come to light about him and his "practices"...All that has come out is the result of ZERO subpoenas or depositions of him personally...extrapolate that to all relevant parties and let your minds dance with the possibilities.