Announcers UF / aTm

[Bullsy]

Hey ESPN, is that lady the best yall could do on Saturday night in the SEC? sigh

Remember when Mike Patrick did these games or Ron Franklin or ANYBODY BESIDES MY MOM!!! (Love you mom)

Screw you ESPN

[Bully13]

fer a chick, she's handling herself ok it appears.

[Reason2succeed]

Sexist

I guess you agree with Cam Newton too?

[Pollodawg]

Mike Patrick is awesome.

[Statecoachingblows**]

Sexist

I guess you agree with Cam Newton too?

Cue some of the politics board folks***gerrrrrr

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

Mike Patrick is awesome.

Yes he is. Listening to him reminds me of watching SNF on ESPN with my dad way back in the day.

[BeardoMSU]

Hey ESPN, is that lady the best yall could do on Saturday night in the SEC? sigh

Remember when Mike Patrick did these games or Ron Franklin or ANYBODY BESIDES MY MOM!!! (Love you mom)

Screw you ESPN

If it's any consolation, I'm pretty sure she's contractually obligated to cook omelettes and/or iron shirts during commercial breaks. Does that make things better for you?***

[Bullsy]

Call me what you want. I’m allowed to prefer legendary announcers over the lady that usually does purdue vs northwestern at 11am

[Reason2succeed]

But you provided no critique other than her gender. Check your privilege. There's no reason why you need male genitalia to call a game. Personally I like the change a whole lot better than those putrid uniforms.

[Bullsy]

And the sound of HER voice on Saturday night annoys me. Like i implied in the original post, I prefer listening mike patrick, ron franklin, dari nowkhah, tim brandon, chris fowler, brad nessler..... over my mom. And i love my mom

Im not required to otherwise have multiple critiques. She reminds me big 10 saturday morning football. And i dont like it. If you wanna like her, then get after it.

[Bully13]

But you provided no critique other than her gender. Check your privilege. There's no reason why you need male genitalia to call a game. Personally I like the change a whole lot better than those putrid uniforms.

Have you forgotten you are on a MSU sports board full of men who are drinking and watching football?

[Reason2succeed]

And the sound of HER voice on Saturday night annoys me. Like i implied in the original post, I prefer listening mike patrick, ron franklin, dari nowkhah, tim brandon, chris fowler, brad nessler..... over my mom. And i love my mom

Im not required to otherwise have multiple critiques.

You said nothing about her voice in the OP. And I doubt she's your mom.

Women watch football all the time. Why shouldn't there be ONE female announcer out of all the men listed. It's a pretty pathetic argument to try to compare her to the best male announcers. There are plenty of male announcers I can't stand like Vern Lundquist. But I never said I hate old fat white men announcing games. I just said I can't stand him.


coachingblows: It's not political. It's not conservative or liberal. It's whether or not you are a caveman.

[Bully13]

You said nothing about her voice in the OP. And I doubt she's your mom.

Women watch football all the time. Why shouldn't there be ONE female announcer out of all the men listed. It's a pretty pathetic argument to try to compare her to the best male announcers. There are plenty of male announcers I can't stand like Vern Lundquist. But I never said I hate old fat white men announcing games. I just said I can't stand him.


coachingblows: It's not political. It's not conservative or liberal. It's whether or not you are a caveman.

you need a beer and a shot of testosterone. and a chill pill. it ain't that big a deal dude.

[BeardoMSU]

Women watch football all the time.

This^^^^^^^



It's not conservative or liberal. It's whether or not you are a caveman.

****ing, aye. This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[BeardoMSU]

it ain't that big a deal dude.

Just a big enough deal to start a thread about it.***

[Goldendawg]

Well girls can join the Boy Scouts now ( and I guess vice/versa) so I guess female announcers are are ok.**** I don't like her delivery, just like I don't like several males and told my son that 15 minutes ago. So there.

[bobtail bob]

Her voice has an accent that is annoying,she whistles her S's' . I'm with the OP i think disney could do better.

[Bullsy]

please tell me her name so i can list my preference of announcers for you and include her name on the list (i would hate to omit her).

[Bully13]

Just a big enough deal to start a thread about it.***

HA! got me there beard. touche.

[Bully13]

speaking of the game, did a white guy actually made that long run for FL?

[bobtail bob]

speaking of the game, did a white guy actually made that long run for FL?

Dude's like 6'7. He was booking it.

[Bullsy]

I don’t think he is white

[bobtail bob]

It was the QB Franks right ?

[Bully13]

I don’t think he is white

neither did I based on the results****

[Bully13]

this is turning out to be a good game.

wtf, A&M's getting 17'd by the officials

[Bullsy]

Got me. I’m not watching on account of the announcers are too hard to listen to

[Bully13]

Got me. I’m not watching on account of the announcers are too hard to listen to

plus 1

[Bully13]

A&M's kicker has top notch mental skills

[Homedawg]

this is turning out to be a good game.

wtf, A&M's getting 17'd by the officials

How? If you are referring to illegal man down field it was obvious

[Cooterpoot]

Need FL to win to start that annual A&M tanking.

[Bully13]

How? If you are referring to illegal man down field it was obvious

I'll admit I didn't watch the replay to see how obvious it was, I just remember hearing an announcer earlier today saying how rare that call is made these days. and that earlier call with the whistle negating that huge 4th down stop by A&M. just seems the refs are cooking for the home team.

[Bully13]

Need FL to win to start that annual A&M tanking.

I'll take that. would work in our favor.

[Homedawg]

I'll admit I didn't watch the replay to see how obvious it was, I just remember hearing an announcer earlier today saying how rare that call is made these days. and that earlier call with the whistle negating that huge 4th down stop by A&M. just seems the refs are cooking for the home team.

That's a fair answer. But to simplify, t a&m had 5 linemen and 2 wr on line to left, making yinside guy ineligible, and inside guy went out on a route. Easy easy call

[Bullsy]

You guys have taken this thread wayyyy off topic!!******

[Homedawg]

You guys have taken this thread wayyyy off topic!!******

Ok the announcers suck. How's that

[Bully13]

damn good pursuit there by A&M.

[Bully13]

A&M's getting ready to win this one based on a good kicker.

[BeardoMSU]

You guys have taken this thread wayyyy off topic!!******

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[Bully13]

no beard, what about the Cheech and Chong clip of weirdo saying he was sorry he stole the money?

[Bully13]

A&M's getting ready to snap it off in gator ass.

[msstate7]

Is McE about to lose again... at home?

[Coldsleeve Jr.]

How’s her ass area

[BeardoMSU]

no beard, what about the Cheech and Chong clip of weirdo saying he was sorry he stole the money?

Good point. I suppose Weirdo and Beardo share the same level of remorse, lol...

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[Bullsy]

She has the ass of an announcer.... not sideline reporter material!!

[Liverpooldawg]

She would be fine......if she wasn't trying to sound like a man. Be yourself Beth. As it is she is the worst announcer ever.

[Bully13]

She wouldn't be fine......if she wasn't trying to sound like a man. Be yourself Beth. As it is she is the worst announcer ever.

meh, I say giver her a break like I did earlier in the thread. she's just hustling , trying to maintain her gig, ain't got no probs with her, just need her to wear a tighter top next time so we can check out the perkiness.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Sexist

I guess you agree with Cam Newton too?

I do.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Personally, if you didn't actually PLAY football (at some level) I have a hard time with your credibility as a PxP or Color guy. I know, crazy right? It has been said before "Beth Mowins actual voice sounds like she is trying to make fun of someone else's voice while they are in the other room." IDGAF what you call me, misogynistic, racist, whatever. My opinion.

[Dawg61]

The CEO of ESPN is the problem with ESPN. He's as left wing as they get. Just deal with it. He seems dead set on flushing ESPN totally down the shitter.

[CadaverDawg]

I have no problem with women as lead anchors for the news or anything else....but football is a man's sport that is about two groups of men physically beating the hell out of each other for 4 Q's. So forgive me if I'd prefer men announcers that know what it's like to be full of testosterone and wanting to knock the shit out of the guy standing across from them. I'm sure women wouldn't prefer a man hosting a crafting or home decor show....and if they told me a man shouldn't be hosting their favorite girl show, I would have zero damn issue with it.

On a similar note, I don't understand the desire women have these days to do everything a man does. It's okay for girls to be girls and guys to be guys. You don't see guys going and trying to join sororities or Girl Scouts, despite the delicious cookies & other things it would provide access to. Ha

[Coldsleeve Jr.]

“Crafting and Home Decor with Coldsleeve Jr”

[msstate7]

I have no problem with women as lead anchors for the news or anything else....but football is a man's sport that is about two groups of men physically beating the hell out of each other for 4 Q's. So forgive me if I'd prefer men announcers that know what it's like to be full of testosterone and wanting to knock the shit out of the guy standing across from them. I'm sure women wouldn't prefer a man hosting a crafting or home decor show....and if they told me a man shouldn't be hosting their favorite girl show, I would have zero damn issue with it.

On a similar note, I don't understand the desire women have these days to do everything a man does. It's okay for girls to be girls and guys to be guys. You don't see guys going and trying to join sororities or Girl Scouts, despite the delicious cookies & other things it would provide access to. Ha

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/02/transgender-girl-scout-stands-up-to-bully-who-wouldnt-buy-cookies-from-a-boy-in-a-dress/?utm_term=.b66dc7efbd8b

[Cooterpoot]

I been drinking since 9:30 this mormon. I’d hit it!

[CadaverDawg]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/02/transgender-girl-scout-stands-up-to-bully-who-wouldnt-buy-cookies-from-a-boy-in-a-dress/?utm_term=.b66dc7efbd8b

Dear Lord, I give up

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[BeardoMSU]

if you didn't actually PLAY football (at some level) I have a hard time with your credibility

Dude, you do realize that the vast majority of people who watch, enjoy, and have opinions on the game of football (college and NFL) have never played a down of football....

[BeardoMSU]

Dear Lord, I give up

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGh4TP3hcBs

[Reason2succeed]

I have no problem with women as lead anchors for the news or anything else....but football is a man's sport that is about two groups of men physically beating the hell out of each other for 4 Q's. So forgive me if I'd prefer men announcers that know what it's like to be full of testosterone and wanting to knock the shit out of the guy standing across from them. I'm sure women wouldn't prefer a man hosting a crafting or home decor show....and if they told me a man shouldn't be hosting their favorite girl show, I would have zero damn issue with it.

On a similar note, I don't understand the desire women have these days to do everything a man does. It's okay for girls to be girls and guys to be guys. You don't see guys going and trying to join sororities or Girl Scouts, despite the delicious cookies & other things it would provide access to. Ha

Of course you've never watched ice skating or women's gymnastics because you're too manly but they often have men announcing. There are HOF coaches who have never played a down of football before.

[BeardoMSU]

There are HOF coaches who have never played a down of football before.

Yep.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Dude, you do realize that the vast majority of people who watch, enjoy, and have opinions on the game of football (college and NFL) have never played a down of football....

Well Im sorry for them... Dont put them on TV.

[BeardoMSU]

Well Im sorry for them... Dont put them on TV.

Ok, then. Maybe we shouldn't let them coach, too? Or even watch? Or write about it? Or have an opinion?


Sheesh...I bet films like Varsity Blues get you all hot and bothered about the good ole high school days.***

[Commercecomet24]

Ok, then. Maybe we shouldn't let them coach, too? Or even watch? Or write about it? Or have an opinion?


Sheesh...I bet films like Varsity Blues get you all hot and bothered about the good ole high school days.***

Hey, hey, hey you leave varsity blues out of this, that?s quality entertainment there******

[BeardoMSU]

Hey, hey, hey you leave varsity blues out of this, that?s quakity entertainment there******

Oh, I know...Ali Larter was [and still is] a ****ing smoke show....

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[Commercecomet24]

Oh, I know...Ali Larter was [and still is] a ****ing smoke show....

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You alright Beardo! I got that on the dvr May have to watch it again!

[Leroy Jenkins]

Ok, then. Maybe we shouldn't let them coach, too? Or even watch? Or write about it? Or have an opinion?

Look, if I was on QVC trying to sell you some control top pantyhose at 2:00am, and you had issues with my believeability, I wouldn't take issue with that. Don't be obtuse, I'm sure you get the concept even if you are too progressive to agree. Its cool.

This was fun....
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[CadaverDawg]

Of course you've never watched ice skating or women's gymnastics because you're too manly but they often have men announcing. There are HOF coaches who have never played a down of football before.

Nowhere did I say they had to have played football before. I just prefer men commentators for a very manly sport. I'm fine if you disagree, but that's my opinion.

I don't care if men commentate ice skating or gymnastics, and if a woman said "men shouldn't commentate gymnastics or ice skating, it bothers me", I would give zero damns. I would take no offense to a woman saying that. So I'm not real sure why you take offense to me saying I think men should commentate footbal, and that I prefer that. That is not a knock on women, it's just a personal preference.

[Dawg61]

Nowhere did I say they had to have played football before. I just prefer men commentators for a very manly sport. I'm fine if you disagree, but that's my opinion.

I don't care if men commentate ice skating or gymnastics, and if a woman said "men shouldn't commentate gymnastics or ice skating, it bothers me", I would give zero damns. I would take no offense to a woman saying that. So I'm not real sure why you take offense to me saying I think men should commentate footbal, and that I prefer that. That is not a knock on women, it's just a personal preference.


Ok, then. Maybe we shouldn't let them coach, too? Or even watch? Or write about it? Or have an opinion?


Sheesh...I bet films like Varsity Blues get you all hot and bothered about the good ole high school days.***

Here's the deal Beardo. Men have proven consistently to be better at announcing football games than women. That's not sexist that's fact. Now I don't believe the reason for this is because they have experience playing football I think the reason is because the ones that aren't handed a job because of their football experience are only there because they had to be better than every other announcer to get there. What I am saying is the best announcers make it to the best games to announce because they are better at announcing than the others but that hiring practice seems to be totally dead with ESPN. Basically the cream rises to the top but ESPN doesn't hire or promote like that. They give announcers jobs for other reasons besides being the best announcers. They apply this same hiring and promoting technique throughout the company and it goes back to what I said. ESPN is run by an extremely liberal CEO that wants to push his agenda and politics over making money. This is part of the issue with Hollywood right now and a big problem with the Harvey Weinstein type cases. Some in Hollywood want to normalize things that have never been normal in this country and they are starting to get called out for it.

[Reason2succeed]

Nowhere did I say they had to have played football before. I just prefer men commentators for a very manly sport. I'm fine if you disagree, but that's my opinion.

I don't care if men commentate ice skating or gymnastics, and if a woman said "men shouldn't commentate gymnastics or ice skating, it bothers me", I would give zero damns. I would take no offense to a woman saying that. So I'm not real sure why you take offense to me saying I think men should commentate footbal, and that I prefer that. That is not a knock on women, it's just a personal preference.

Fine but your preference isn't the only one that matters. And since when do you have to be "extremely liberal" to think that women can do jobs that men do?!? Are you sure you're okay with women driving because even I could make a case against that?*

You might not like this particular woman commentating games. That's fine but that's not what the OP said. That's what I reacted to.

You might not like it but if you listen to me it might keep you from sticking your foot in your mouth on the job and getting fired.

[Hasu Dackds]

Fine but your preference isn't the only one that matters. And since when do you have to be "extremely liberal" to think that women can do jobs that men do?!? Are you sure you're okay with women driving because even I could make a case against that?*

You might not like this particular woman commentating games. That's fine but that's not what the OP said. That's what I reacted to.

You might not like it but if you listen to me it might keep you from sticking your foot in your mouth on the job and getting fired.

My question is why men (I presume) like you feel the need to fight this ridiculously overrated battle on behalf of women. What compels you to get triggered every time a guy makes a comment that could be interpreted as sexist?

[Bully13]

Oh, I know...Ali Larter was [and still is] a ****ing smoke show....

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why can I not stop looking at this clip? I wish she could do some football announcing it that "outfit" she's got on.

[BeardoMSU]

My question is why men (I presume) like you feel the need to fight this ridiculously overrated battle on behalf of women. What compels you to get triggered every time a guy makes a comment that could be interpreted as sexist?

I'd assume it comes from the same place that compels you to get triggered every time you see/hear a women calling a football game....

[Cooterpoot]

What if she’s making sandwiches while she’s calling the game?

[shoeless joe]

Zero doubt that ESPN stuck her in a Saturday nite SEC GAME on purpose because of politics. That said there are a ton of men play by play guys that are absolutely awful...guy calling the ole miss game for example didn't have a frikin clue. The main reason I'm not a mowins fan is because her voice is annoying as hell.

Now what I think is over the top stupid is sticking a woman in the Sunday night baseball booth as a color commentator!!! I definitely like some experience in that position.

[Cooterpoot]

Zero doubt that ESPN stuck her in a Saturday nite SEC GAME on purpose because of politics. That said there are a ton of men play by play guys that are absolutely awful...guy calling the ole miss game for example didn't have a frikin clue. The main reason I'm not a mowins fan is because her voice is annoying as hell.

Now what I think is over the top stupid is sticking a woman in the Sunday night baseball booth as a color commentator!!! I definitely like some experience in that position.

Mendoza knows waaaaaaay more ball that you. Trust me, I sat in a coach?ng conference with her. She's freaking sharp!
Shes as knowable about hitting as any guy you'll meet.

[BulldogBear]

Need FL to win to start that annual A&M tanking.

Looks like it's up to us again. We have a good recent history though, 2 out of the last 3 seasons! Hail State! I'll be there at Kyle Field. Dan better not outsmart himself.

[BulldogBear]

please tell me her name so i can list my preference of announcers for you and include her name on the list (i would hate to omit her).
I think it's Beth Mowins (sp?). I know her voice is almost mannish but she is actually attractive and a great person.

I have no problem with women as lead anchors for the news or anything else....but football is a man's sport that is about two groups of men physically beating the hell out of each other for 4 Q's. So forgive me if I'd prefer men announcers that know what it's like to be full of testosterone and wanting to knock the shit out of the guy standing across from them. I'm sure women wouldn't prefer a man hosting a crafting or home decor show....and if they told me a man shouldn't be hosting their favorite girl show, I would have zero damn issue with it.

On a similar note, I don't understand the desire women have these days to do everything a man does. It's okay for girls to be girls and guys to be guys. You don't see guys going and trying to join sororities or Girl Scouts, despite the delicious cookies & other things it would provide access to. Ha
This is kind if how I feel. I don't think Beth does a bad job at all. It just feels more natural to me to have a man call the game. And that's not sexist. It's a preference. This kind if thing shouldn't be forced and ESPN sometimes makes it feel forced.

Zero doubt that ESPN stuck her in a Saturday nite SEC GAME on purpose because of politics. That said there are a ton of men play by play guys that are absolutely awful...guy calling the ole miss game for example didn't have a frikin clue. The main reason I'm not a mowins fan is because her voice is annoying as hell.

Now what I think is over the top stupid is sticking a woman in the Sunday night baseball booth as a color commentator!!! I definitely like some experience in that position.

If she's in the prime time slot because she's the best announcer then that makes sense. But this is for politics and that's starting to get old.

[CadaverDawg]

Fine but your preference isn't the only one that matters. And since when do you have to be "extremely liberal" to think that women can do jobs that men do?!? Are you sure you're okay with women driving because even I could make a case against that?*

You might not like this particular woman commentating games. That's fine but that's not what the OP said. That's what I reacted to.

You might not like it but if you listen to me it might keep you from sticking your foot in your mouth on the job and getting fired.

I think you're confusing me with someone else. I never said the words "extremely liberal", and I do not need you preaching to me. If I don't want women commentating, and don't think they're as good at it, that is 100% fine....in no way shape or form is that "sticking my foot in my mouth". Being "Politically Correct", does not mean you're "correct".

[CadaverDawg]

My question is why men (I presume) like you feel the need to fight this ridiculously overrated battle on behalf of women. What compels you to get triggered every time a guy makes a comment that could be interpreted as sexist?

No shit. I don't get it. 90%+ of women likely agree with me too....so he's defending like 10% of feminist women, not just women.

[shoeless joe]

Mendoza knows waaaaaaay more ball that you. Trust me, I sat in a coach?ng conference with her. She's freaking sharp!
Shes as knowable about hitting as any guy you'll meet.

I won't get into a "big dick" contest on who knows more ball but I do know that she has the exact same experience as I do when it comes to hitting in the major leagues.

I've said this before...I also don't like verducci in the booth for the exact same reasons. Again...this is purely politics.

[Hasu Dackds]

I'd assume it comes from the same place that compels you to get triggered every time you see/hear a women calling a football game....

Ha, 'I know you are but what am I' smack. Brilliant.

But I'll indulge you. As far as being triggered, ask the OP. I mute the TV for most games, so I don't listen to any announcers. No trigger-ment here.

[Hasu Dackds]

I won't get into a "big dick" contest on who knows more ball but I do know that she has the exact same experience as I do when it comes to hitting in the major leagues.
Yep. He (Counterpoot) knows he's lost when he attacks your character, which was not in question. No point in responding to him anymore after this, unless you just want to mess with him.

[Bully13]

Yep. He (Counterpoot) knows he's lost when he attacks your character, which was not in question. No point in responding to him anymore after this, unless you just want to mess with him.

In defense of cooter, he claims to have gotten started around 9:30 a.m.

[Leroy Jenkins]

My question is why men (I presume) like you feel the need to fight this ridiculously overrated battle on behalf of women. What compels you to get triggered every time a guy makes a comment that could be interpreted as sexist?

Its a well documented disorder... White Knighting.

White Knight Syndrome:
A fairly common condition generally affecting males, White Knight Syndrome encompasses a wide range of behaviour related to "saving a damsel in distress". Almost always found near to or with Attention Whores, men affected by White Knight Syndrome are men who feel the need to protect, provide attention and affection, be viewed as "heroic", boost their ego, and generally feel good about themselves (usually because they have low self-esteem, or a small penis, or both).
Men with White Knight Syndrome are invariably attracted to Attention Whores or Problem Women (a sub-genre of the Attention Whore, the Problem Woman craves male attention and uses her often self-inflicted "problems" to attract the White Knight) because such women can cater to the White Knight's needs and vice versa--very much like the symbiotic relationship of bacteria and fungus in lichen. Men affected with White Knight Syndrome will spend long hours cuddling such women and giving them large amounts of attention and affection, sometimes struggling to hide their erections because the ego-boost feels so great. The male affected with White Knight Syndrome ends up in a position similar to the friend zone, but this does not matter to him--he's being a good guy by offering an Attention Whore more attention.


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[TUSK]

Allie LaForce approves this thread:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dani-bostick/cbs-sets-women-in-sports-_b_8241590.html

[Maroon Wizardry]

The gal, while not very good was 100 times better than the other dude. I know a handful of high school game announcers and all of them better than both of those that were on the air last night. There are quite a few women sideline announcers that are top notch in the nfl. I didn't care for her voice, just like i didn't like his. They sounds like a bunch of yankees. I prefer no noticeable accent.

[Maroon Wizardry]

also Maybe it was a test run. Let's see what game she calls for week 8. That bama game was a blowout everyone knew it would be a blowout. I watched about 5 minutes of it because it was gonna be a blowout and when i heard the announcers i changed the channel. It was gonna be a garbage game all together... if they were gonna make a political statement they would had her calling the A&M vs Florida game. Those are the 2 largest fanbases in the SEC. Florida is also a swing state.

[Reason2succeed]

My question is why men (I presume) like you feel the need to fight this ridiculously overrated battle on behalf of women. What compels you to get triggered every time a guy makes a comment that could be interpreted as sexist?

Because one day my daughter may want to be a football color analyst and I don't want to have to tell her "sorry but you can only work the sideline". Plus, it's a message board. I hope you don't just want everyone agreeing to everything. If you don't want disagreement keep your message to yourself and you got it.

Once again I hope you all aren't saying that women having the same opportunities is strictly a liberal agenda. I know plenty of conservative women who would disagree.

[Hasu Dackds]

Because one day my daughter may want to be a football color analyst and I don't want to have to tell her "sorry but you can only work the sideline". Plus, it's a message board. I hope you don't just want everyone agreeing to everything. If you don't want disagreement keep your message to yourself and you got it.

Once again I hope you all aren't saying that women having the same opportunities is strictly a liberal agenda. I know plenty of conservative women who would disagree.
I kinda figured you'd go the 'MUH DAUGHTERZ' route. I have two of them myself. All anyone on the other side of the debate is saying is that women who aren't the best at commentating shouldn't do it simply because they are a woman (which is EXACTLY why ESPN did it). I know, I know....MISOGYNY!!!

This isn't about equal opportunity. It's about gaining an advantage and has been for a long damn time. I want my daughters to get recognized because of what they do, not because they are women. When you think about it like that, it's YOUR side that is sexist.

[Bullsy]

I have a daughter. She wants to be a dentist. And thank God she wants to be a dentist cause she would be horrible on ESPN Saturday nite doing play by play in the SEC.

NOTE: Both my beautiful daughter and my beautiful wife are ok with my oppinion and agree that dentistry is a much better career path.

[BulldogBear]

I kinda figured you'd go the 'MUH DAUGHTERZ' route. I have two of them myself. All anyone on the other side of the debate is saying is that women who aren't the best at commentating shouldn't do it simply because they are a woman (which is EXACTLY why ESPN did it). I know, I know....MISOGYNY!!!

This isn't about equal opportunity. It's about gaining an advantage and has been for a long damn time. I want my daughters to get recognized because of what they do, not because they are women. When you think about it like that, it's YOUR side that is sexist.

Good post

[RocketDawg]

Allie LaForce approves this thread:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dani-bostick/cbs-sets-women-in-sports-_b_8241590.html

As far as I'm concerned, Allie can say whatever she wants to on the sideline. Don't care that she's never heard of oxygen tanks before. ** However, I'd not like her in the booth calling the game. She's fine doing what she's doing.

[Cooterpoot]

I won't get into a "big dick" contest on who knows more ball but I do know that she has the exact same experience as I do when it comes to hitting in the major leagues.

I've said this before...I also don't like verducci in the booth for the exact same reasons. Again...this is purely politics.

And she’s played college ball and in the olympics. You realize there’s no difference in a softball swing and baseball swing right? The game is the same except the for field dimensions. Hell, she’s a better announcer than the guy doing the NLCS.
I’ve had the chance to talk baseball and softball with her. She’s legit.

[DudyDawg]

I absolutely HATE Beth Mowins. I will never watch a game she does. Couldn't watch TAMU-UF bc of that awful voice. I also pretty much hate women doing PxP on football anyways, but I dislike her on another level.

As far as women announcing men's sports in general, I have no problem with it if the woman is a) knowledgeable and b) not incredibly annoying and hard to listen to. So pretty much the same criteria I have for male broadcasters. I love Doris Burke on NBA games. But Mowins, and women in the booth for football in general, is awful. Seeing some 250 pound behemoth hit a receiver so hard he shits himself just doesn't feel right when a feminine voice tells you about it. Honestly, besides about 5 people, I would rather just hear crowd noise when I watch football.

[Bully13]

I don't care too much for her voice either but IMO she's pretty good. she's seems knowledgeable and stays on top of things.

[shoeless joe]

And she’s played college ball and in the olympics. You realize there’s no difference in a softball swing and baseball swing right? The game is the same except the for field dimensions. Hell, she’s a better announcer than the guy doing the NLCS.
I’ve had the chance to talk baseball and softball with her. She’s legit.

If you think there is no difference in hitting a pitched fast pitch softball and a pitched baseball then you are a dumbass. So many things are difference it's not even funny. And comparing Olympic softball to Major League Baseball is absurd at best.

I'm sure she has elite softball talent...and would prolly be really good calling the WCWS but when someone is breaking down the intricacies of the major league game I'd like for it to be someone with SOME experience.

[msstate7]

but when someone is breaking down the intricacies of the major league game I'd like for it to be someone with SOME experience.

Or me, right shoeless? You love my breakdowns on the Braves, do you not? Haha