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NCDawg
10-05-2017, 01:38 PM
Listening to Coach Grantham's press conference, he stated if we could have avoided the "explosive plays" against Auburn, it may have been an entirely different game. He may be correct, but they did bust that first big run right up the middle when they knocked our DL and LB's out of the way. He didn't indicate how we can avoid the explosive plays in the future-hope he figures it out.

TrapGame
10-05-2017, 01:40 PM
Having our guys being held by a fist full of jersey every other play didn't help either.

Jack Lambert
10-05-2017, 01:41 PM
Both Georgia and Auburn took advantage of the aggressiveness of our defense with play action. They were able to do it because of their athletes. Out side of playing Bama I am not worried about the defense. I counting that one as a lose. I feel pretty good about the other games.

I agree about the holding. Watch both games several times and some of the hold were too obvious not to be called but they were not.

Saltydog
10-05-2017, 01:51 PM
here and there. Some of it is due to the sheer aggressiveness of the scheme but some of it is due to lack of discipline by some of our players (namely McLaurin).

starkvegasdawg
10-05-2017, 01:52 PM
Listening to Coach Grantham's press conference, he stated if we could have avoided the "explosive plays" against Auburn, it may have been an entirely different game. He may be correct, but they did bust that first big run right up the middle when they knocked our DL and LB's out of the way. He didn't indicate how we can avoid the explosive plays in the future-hope he figures it out.

If I could avoid the chili cheese fries I wouldn?t have explosive gas.

TrapGame
10-05-2017, 01:57 PM
Both Georgia and Auburn took advantage of the aggressiveness of our defense with play action. They were able to do it because of their athletes. Out side of playing Bama I am not worried about the defense. I counting that one as a lose. I feel pretty good about the other games.

I agree about the holding. Watch both games several times and some of the hold were too obvious not to be called but they were not.

Yep, we might have some hiccups with A&M, Arky and maybe OM but it will be nothing like facing AU, BAMA and UGA.

SallyStansbury
10-05-2017, 01:59 PM
Duh, bend but don?t break......cb?s 10-15 yards off the line, safeties look confused, middle of field wide open, DL straight ahead, you know the drill.....

Jack Lambert
10-05-2017, 02:18 PM
Yep, we might have some hiccups with A&M, Arky and maybe OM but it will be nothing like facing AU, BAMA and UGA.

I worry about A&M and Ole Miss making big plays but their defenses are not going to stop our offense. We will have some big runs on them.

RiverCityDawg
10-05-2017, 02:22 PM
Duh, bend but don?t break......cb?s 10-15 yards off the line, safeties look confused, middle of field wide open, DL straight ahead, you know the drill.....

I'm not sure what the point of your post is, but you are not describing our defense.

Our defense against UGA and especially Auburn was the opposite of bend-but-don't-break. It was bend very little unless you completely break. And our CB's have not been consistently 10-15 yards off the line, they (specifically Cleveland) have just been getting beat. Safeties don't look confused, they look like they know what's coming, but instead it's a pass not a run or it's a double move and they get beat trying to be aggressive rather than smart.

SallyStansbury
10-05-2017, 02:29 PM
Sorry RCD, my answer was a sarcastic response to the original poster who was asking what could we do as an alternative to Grantham?s aggressive approach (that failed to be effective the past two games). What I described is what our defense had predictably done the prior two or three years. I fear Grantham may feel pressured to do more of that as opposed to sticking with his aggressive approach and tuning/modifying it.

RiverCityDawg
10-05-2017, 03:57 PM
Sorry RCD, my answer was a sarcastic response to the original poster who was asking what could we do as an alternative to Grantham?s aggressive approach (that failed to be effective the past two games). What I described is what our defense had predictably done the prior two or three years. I fear Grantham may feel pressured to do more of that as opposed to sticking with his aggressive approach and tuning/modifying it.

Got it. You never know what games our fans are watching sometimes. Agree that you described our past defenses, which goes to show our folks will complain about either approach if we aren't doing well.

Bothrops
10-05-2017, 06:20 PM
We can't have players-turn spectators on defense during a game. You can't prevent big plays, if that happens. Hope this was mentioned and will be corrected.

TUSK
10-05-2017, 07:40 PM
Flea'd from TheRant....

vs Power 5 teams


OFFENSE

10+ Yard Plays Per Game
1. Alabama (18.7)
2. Texas A&M (15.0)
3. Kentucky (14.5)
4. LSU (12.5)
5. Ole Miss (12.5)
6. Missouri (12.3)
7. Arkansas (12.0)
8. Mississippi State (11.3)
9. Florida (11.0)
9. Georgia (11.0)
11. South Carolina (10.5)
12. Tennessee (10.0)
13. Auburn (9.0)
14. Vanderbilt (8.0)


20+ Yard Plays Per Game
1. Arkansas (7.0)
2. Alabama (6.7)
3. Georgia (5.5)
3. Kentucky (5.5)
5. Auburn (4.7)
6. Ole Miss (4.5)
6. South Carolina (4.5)
8. Florida (4.3)
9. LSU (4.0)
9. Tennessee (4.0)
11. Missouri (3.7)
11. Mississippi State (3.7)
13. Texas A&M (3.3)
14. Vanderbilt (2.7)


40+ Yard Plays Per Game
1. Auburn (3.3)
2. Ole Miss (2.0)
2. Texas A&M (2.0)
4. Alabama (1.7)
5. Arkansas (1.5)
5. LSU (1.5)
7. Florida (1.3)
7. Tennessee (1.3)
9. Georgia (1.0)
10. Mississippi State (0.7)
11. Kentucky (0.5)
11. South Carolina (0.5)
13. Missouri (0.3)
14. Vanderbilt (0.0)



DEFENSE

10+ Yard Plays Given Up Per Game
1. Georgia (5.0)
2. Alabama (7.0)
3. Kentucky (9.0)
4. Auburn (11.0)
5. Mississippi State (11.3)
6. Arkansas (11.5)
7. Missouri (13.0)
8. Tennessee (13.7)
9. South Carolina (15.0)
10. Florida (15.3)
11. LSU (16.0)
12. Ole Miss (17.5)
13. Texas A&M (17.7)
14. Vanderbilt (19.3)


20+ Yard Plays Given Up Per Game
1. Georgia (2.0)
2. Alabama (3.0)
2. Arkansas (3.0)
4. Auburn (3.3)
5. Kentucky (3.5)
6. South Carolina (3.8)
7. LSU (4.0)
8. Mississippi State (4.7)
8. Vanderbilt (4.7)
10. Tennessee (5.0)
11. Missouri (5.7)
12. Ole Miss (6.0)
13. Florida (6.8)
14. Texas A&M (7.7)


40+ Yard Plays Given Up Per Game
1. Alabama (0.3)
1. Auburn (0.3)
3. Georgia (0.5)
3. LSU (0.5)
3. South Carolina (0.5)
6. Vanderbilt (0.7)
7. Florida (0.8)
8. Tennessee (1.3)
9. Kentucky (1.5)
9. Ole Miss (1.5)
11. Missouri (1.7)
11. Texas A&M (1.7)
13. Arkansas (2.0)
14. Mississippi State (2.7)

the59dawg
10-06-2017, 10:49 AM
here and there. Some of it is due to the sheer aggressiveness of the scheme but some of it is due to lack of discipline by some of our players (namely McLaurin).

I don't know. Cleveland was beat bad twice in LSU and GA games. Bryant was the guilty one for AUB.

NCDawg
10-06-2017, 11:44 AM
Flea'd from TheRant....

vs Power 5 teams


OFFENSE

10+ Yard Plays Per Game
1. Alabama (18.7)
2. Texas A&M (15.0)
3. Kentucky (14.5)
4. LSU (12.5)
5. Ole Miss (12.5)
6. Missouri (12.3)
7. Arkansas (12.0)
8. Mississippi State (11.3)
9. Florida (11.0)
9. Georgia (11.0)
11. South Carolina (10.5)
12. Tennessee (10.0)
13. Auburn (9.0)
14. Vanderbilt (8.0)


20+ Yard Plays Per Game
1. Arkansas (7.0)
2. Alabama (6.7)
3. Georgia (5.5)
3. Kentucky (5.5)
5. Auburn (4.7)
6. Ole Miss (4.5)
6. South Carolina (4.5)
8. Florida (4.3)
9. LSU (4.0)
9. Tennessee (4.0)
11. Missouri (3.7)
11. Mississippi State (3.7)
13. Texas A&M (3.3)
14. Vanderbilt (2.7)


40+ Yard Plays Per Game
1. Auburn (3.3)
2. Ole Miss (2.0)
2. Texas A&M (2.0)
4. Alabama (1.7)
5. Arkansas (1.5)
5. LSU (1.5)
7. Florida (1.3)
7. Tennessee (1.3)
9. Georgia (1.0)
10. Mississippi State (0.7)
11. Kentucky (0.5)
11. South Carolina (0.5)
13. Missouri (0.3)
14. Vanderbilt (0.0)



DEFENSE

10+ Yard Plays Given Up Per Game
1. Georgia (5.0)
2. Alabama (7.0)
3. Kentucky (9.0)
4. Auburn (11.0)
5. Mississippi State (11.3)
6. Arkansas (11.5)
7. Missouri (13.0)
8. Tennessee (13.7)
9. South Carolina (15.0)
10. Florida (15.3)
11. LSU (16.0)
12. Ole Miss (17.5)
13. Texas A&M (17.7)
14. Vanderbilt (19.3)


20+ Yard Plays Given Up Per Game
1. Georgia (2.0)
2. Alabama (3.0)
2. Arkansas (3.0)
4. Auburn (3.3)
5. Kentucky (3.5)
6. South Carolina (3.8)
7. LSU (4.0)
8. Mississippi State (4.7)
8. Vanderbilt (4.7)
10. Tennessee (5.0)
11. Missouri (5.7)
12. Ole Miss (6.0)
13. Florida (6.8)
14. Texas A&M (7.7)


40+ Yard Plays Given Up Per Game
1. Alabama (0.3)
1. Auburn (0.3)
3. Georgia (0.5)
3. LSU (0.5)
3. South Carolina (0.5)
6. Vanderbilt (0.7)
7. Florida (0.8)
8. Tennessee (1.3)
9. Kentucky (1.5)
9. Ole Miss (1.5)
11. Missouri (1.7)
11. Texas A&M (1.7)
13. Arkansas (2.0)
14. Mississippi State (2.7)

That last statistic explains a lot of our problems.