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msstate7
10-02-2017, 12:16 PM
Coppy resigning... apparently we cheat to suck

Political Hack
10-02-2017, 12:29 PM
Brutal. New stadium is really cool though. At least that's good.

msstate7
10-02-2017, 12:31 PM
Brutal. New stadium is really cool though. At least that's good.

Love suntrust. Can?t wait to go back next season

War Machine Dawg
10-02-2017, 12:36 PM
We're Barving hard. I was against the rebuild from the start. The whole thing has been a gigantic cluster17. And it just keeps getting worse.

parabrave
10-02-2017, 12:48 PM
Bye see you later. Now only if TM would leave.

smootness
10-02-2017, 12:51 PM
We're Barving hard. I was against the rebuild from the start. The whole thing has been a gigantic cluster17. And it just keeps getting worse.

Love the rebuild, hate that Coppy is gone, bracing for the penalties from MLB, and hoping like crazy Hart doesn't screw this up.

shoeless joe
10-02-2017, 12:53 PM
Running McDowell off was stupid...I said as much at the time. I believe johnson's issues were a direct result of that. Stability is important so I'd like to see snit come back. Although I could get behind Washington getting the job.

The braves have stockpiled young talent...keyword young. I expected a better season but I think playoff contention next year is still attainable. No need to burn it all down now and go rite back to where they were 2-3 years ago.

War Machine Dawg
10-02-2017, 02:50 PM
https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/914934087818862592

And now this. It just keeps getting worse.

fader2103
10-02-2017, 02:53 PM
Not a Braves fan, but I do like Brian Snitker, mainly because he coached the M-Braves for a period. Nice guy!

War Machine Dawg
10-02-2017, 02:59 PM
Not a Braves fan, but I do like Brian Snitker, mainly because he coached the M-Braves for a period. Nice guy!

Snitker should be fired yesterday. He's f'n awful. There's a reason you stay with an organization for 50 years and never get a sniff of a manager gig anywhere. Love his loyalty, but you don't hire a guy to run your club just because he's been around forever. He's got to go. I just hope we hire from outside the organization, but I know it'll never happen.

RocketDawg
10-02-2017, 03:01 PM
Coppy resigning... apparently we cheat to suck

What ... was he paying players or something? **

RocketDawg
10-02-2017, 03:02 PM
Love suntrust. Can?t wait to go back next season

Are they called the Marietta Braves now?

BrunswickDawg
10-02-2017, 03:07 PM
Are they called the Marietta Braves now?

Technically, no, they are in a hole between Marietta and Smyrna, with an Atlanta mailing address

msstate7
10-02-2017, 03:10 PM
Snitker should be fired yesterday. He's f'n awful. There's a reason you stay with an organization for 50 years and never get a sniff of a manager gig anywhere. Love his loyalty, but you don't hire a guy to run your club just because he's been around forever. He's got to go. I just hope we hire from outside the organization, but I know it'll never happen.

Not a fan either

parabrave
10-02-2017, 05:44 PM
He was in trouble with the MLB about the teams recruitment of Latin American players. Other teams were starting to complain about him.

BoomBoom
10-02-2017, 06:07 PM
Coppy resigning... apparently we cheat to suck

sounds like some minor to moderately serious infractions in international signing, but made worse by most people hating Coppy and pulling out the knives at an opportune moment. that and Coppy being sick of constantly fighting with the Braves old guard, and was fine with leaving.

most likely the infractions were package deals or under the table money to land international signings. probably a lot of bad feelings about the Maitan signing since it was known including the value for over a year before negotiations were allowed, and supposedly a last-second higher bidder came in but was rejected. but such things are extremely common in that market. let's just hope there's not direct evidence against the Pache or Maitan signings.

msstate7
10-02-2017, 06:10 PM
sounds like some minor to moderately serious infractions in international signing, but made worse by most people hating Coppy and pulling out the knives at an opportune moment. that and Coppy being sick of constantly fighting with the Braves old guard, and was fine with leaving.

most likely the infractions were package deals or under the table money to land international signings. probably a lot of bad feelings about the Maitan signing since it was known including the value for over a year before negotiations were allowed, and supposedly a last-second higher bidder came in but was rejected. but such things are extremely common in that market. let's just hope there's not direct evidence against the Pache or Maitan signings.

It would be awful if we lost one of those 2. I love pache

Gutter Cobreh
10-02-2017, 07:01 PM
?... apparently we cheat to suck

So what you're saying is the Braves are to MLB what the Rebels are to College Football???

No wonder you're such a closet Bear/Freeze fan...***

Commercecomet24
10-02-2017, 07:05 PM
sounds like some minor to moderately serious infractions in international signing, but made worse by most people hating Coppy and pulling out the knives at an opportune moment. that and Coppy being sick of constantly fighting with the Braves old guard, and was fine with leaving.

most likely the infractions were package deals or under the table money to land international signings. probably a lot of bad feelings about the Maitan signing since it was known including the value for over a year before negotiations were allowed, and supposedly a last-second higher bidder came in but was rejected. but such things are extremely common in that market. let's just hope there's not direct evidence against the Pache or Maitan signings.

Spot on right there. My thoughts exactly.

msstate7
10-03-2017, 10:32 AM
Snit appears to your Atlanta braves? manager for 2018

smootness
10-03-2017, 10:41 AM
I'm not real optimistic about much surrounding the Braves organization right now.

msstate7
10-03-2017, 11:16 AM
I'm not real optimistic about much surrounding the Braves organization right now.

Youve spent too much time around enscheff haha

I think the braves will be fine

msstate7
10-29-2017, 10:25 AM
Ryan Cothran @baldheaded1der
Gathering reports from BA and other scouts over the past few weeks from the AFL on Fried and he's sitting 94-96 with his FB topping out at 98. If this velo stays, #Braves really have something!
7:45 AM - Oct 29, 2017


AFL stats...
Austin Riley ops = 1.217 (#1 in afl)
Alex Jackson ops = 1.139 (#3 in afl)
Ronald Acuna ops = 1.121 (#4 in afl)

Fried...
19.0 ip 9 h 1 er 5 bb 23 k
0.47 era
0.74 whip

In case you do not know, the afl is the premier league... best of the best.

Future is bright

msstate7
02-23-2018, 07:56 AM
Are back... first ST game vs Mets at 12 today. Wisler, in likely his last shot (ST) with the Braves, starts it.

Saturday - Newcomb
Sunday - kazmar

I am really interested in how Albies, Swanson, allard, soroka, Newcomb, and acuna perform this spring

Commercecomet24
02-23-2018, 09:11 AM
I?m excited to see the newbies too. Some dang good potential there hope they can live up to it.

Tbonewannabe
02-23-2018, 10:09 AM
Where is Renfroe batting in the lineup?****** Only hoping because the Braves need a RH bat.

msstate7
02-23-2018, 10:12 AM
Where is Renfroe batting in the lineup?****** Only hoping because the Braves need a RH bat.

https://s18.postimg.org/p1bzb6os9/4198140_E-7_A1_D-474_E-_B720-65_D6_E16_B9_D04.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Patience...

Bulldog1
02-23-2018, 10:13 AM
Will he play on opening day or like a month in? (Acuna)

msstate7
02-23-2018, 10:21 AM
Will he play on opening day or like a month in? (Acuna)

Not opening day

Commercecomet24
02-23-2018, 10:35 AM
https://s18.postimg.org/p1bzb6os9/4198140_E-7_A1_D-474_E-_B720-65_D6_E16_B9_D04.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Patience...

Really looking forward to watching this kid play. He's got all the tools.

Joethedawg1
02-23-2018, 11:22 AM
Is that noon eastern time or central?

Tbonewannabe
02-23-2018, 11:29 AM
How many RH bats would we have in the lineup? Albies and Carmargo are both Switch hitters but which side is their better side? That would leave Flowers and Acuna as the only other RH bats.

msstate7
02-23-2018, 11:54 AM
Is that noon eastern time or central?

Central

msstate7
05-24-2018, 11:42 AM
Allard scratched today for Gwinnett. Looks like he will get his mlb debut shortly. Hopefully Monday vs Mets.

Commercecomet24
05-24-2018, 11:52 AM
Looking forward to seeing that! Lotta young talent.

msstate7
05-24-2018, 11:55 AM
Looking forward to seeing that! Lotta young talent.

Hopefully we see it. I'm offering a whole lot without knowing for sure. Hopefully I'm guessing right lol

Bulldog1
05-24-2018, 11:58 AM
Has it been confirmed he's being promoted? Might be getting some extra rest?

parabrave
05-24-2018, 12:33 PM
Allard scratched today for Gwinnett. Looks like he will get his mlb debut shortly. Hopefully Monday vs Mets.

Sokard hurting and on the DL. Supposed to start Rehab Friday. Gohara had a decent outing last night but he is leaving to go be with his mom who had openheart surgery.

msstate7
05-25-2018, 08:58 PM
Good job, snit... most managers wouldn't bring wisler in to face to the best mlb hitter besides trout. Snit got that brain though... f'n DA

Bulldog1
05-25-2018, 09:00 PM
Yes! Biddle has reverse splits anyways.

msstate7
05-25-2018, 09:08 PM
Fully rested pen, and snit brings in our worst pitcher to face their best hitter. I just can't get over how dumb that is. Like seriously, that is Fredi Gonzalez dumb

msstate7
05-25-2018, 09:10 PM
Another Hr off wisler. Seriously, snit needs to be in an old folks home. He's a DA

Bulldog1
05-25-2018, 09:19 PM
What was Snitker thinking?

Bulldog1
05-25-2018, 11:02 PM
https://twitter.com/DOBrienAJC/status/1000215033673125888?s=20

parabrave
05-26-2018, 12:52 AM
Well it was nice to be in 1st place. One question I have is where is Flarehty. He was the hottest hitter on the team before the Bautista mistake now with us playing in Boston I thought he would be DH.

MetEdDawg
05-26-2018, 06:32 AM
Sounds like we need bullpen help. We need to go out and get it.

msstate7
05-26-2018, 07:44 AM
Sounds like we need bullpen help. We need to go out and get it.

It was just a stupid excuse for a stupid move. Biddle was in the game, and had only thrown 7 pitches (6 strikes). If snit had the sense to use baseball reference like me or half of mlb fans, he would have noticed that biddle's career splits are the following: vs rhb, .114/.205/.143 and vs lhb, .500/.550/.778. So the real question is why make a move in the first place? If snit is unable or unwilling to use basic info, he shouldn't be running an mlb team. Rant over... send wisler down, promote Evan Phillips (an actual reliever instead of another failed starter to try in the role) from Gwinnett (15 g, 13.32 k9, 3.33 b9, 53.1% gb, 1.48 era, 1.91 FIP), and get a win tonight... we need it bad

Bulldog1
05-26-2018, 11:22 AM
Both catchers in the starting lineup today...

msstate7
05-26-2018, 11:34 AM
Both catchers in the starting lineup today...

2nd day in a row

shoeless joe
05-26-2018, 11:38 AM
Both catchers in the starting lineup today...

They are both good hitters. can give one a semi day off and keep his bat in line up. Bobby used to do it with Lopez and whoever the "defensive" catcher was when they played in AL parks...

msstate7
05-26-2018, 11:44 AM
They are both good hitters. can give one a semi day off and keep his bat in line up. Bobby used to do it with Lopez and whoever the "defensive" catcher was when they played in AL parks...

I have no problem with getting both of them in the game. The wisler decision though... still hot haha

Bulldog1
05-26-2018, 11:46 AM
I don't have a problem with it, but what happens if Kurt gets hurt?

msstate7
05-26-2018, 11:54 AM
I don't have a problem with it, but what happens if Kurt gets hurt?

Brantly or Stewart to Atlanta then tomorrow. We lose DH today

shoeless joe
05-26-2018, 11:59 AM
I have no problem with getting both of them in the game. The wisler decision though... still hot haha

I agree. Was curious to me when he made that move. But I've seen you and others complain when he uses certain guys too much, which is what he was trying to avoid yesterday. I felt he should've left biddle in.

Speaking of Bobby, that was also one of his weaknesses that cost the braves a good bit in the postseason over the years, he'd pull a guy that was doin well to play match ups or go by the book. Several games lost because of that. The last one that sticks out was pulling kimbrel his rookie year so Dunn could face Aubrey huff. Cost Atlanta that game 3 vs the giants and waisted hinske 's dramatic homer.

parabrave
05-26-2018, 12:38 PM
Well Newcomb just had his Tom Glavine moment. Thankfully he didn't give up any runs.

bostondawg
05-26-2018, 05:20 PM
Just got home from fenway Park, watching my Red Sox win in convincing fashion (along with a Braves buddy of mine from Atlanta who's staying with me this weekend).

msstate7
05-26-2018, 05:22 PM
Just got home from fenway Park, watching my Red Sox win in convincing fashion (along with a Braves buddy of mine from Atlanta who's staying with me this weekend).
Red Sox are very good. Braves are a year away imo

bostondawg
05-26-2018, 05:32 PM
Red Sox are very good. Braves are a year away imo

Yep. Been talking about it with my buddy. Apparently all of the Braves pitching talent is in the minors right now. Also Braves aren't spending any money at all. They've got tons of potential for the future.

msstate7
05-27-2018, 12:24 PM
Allard scratched today for Gwinnett. Looks like he will get his mlb debut shortly. Hopefully Monday vs Mets.

Tomorrow's starter is fried, not allard. Allard starting for Gwinnett today

parabrave
05-27-2018, 02:01 PM
OPh that didn't look good at all. Think Acunas' hurt bad. when the opposing crowd gasps at the replay thats bad sign.

Dawg61
05-27-2018, 04:02 PM
Hyperextended is early report. Might of dodged a bullet but probably still out awhile.

msstate7
05-27-2018, 04:04 PM
Hyperextended is early report. Might of dodged a bullet but probably still out awhile.

Knew we had converted you to braves lol

parabrave
05-28-2018, 12:41 PM
Dodged a bullet with Acuna. ACL sprain, NO tear, and lower back contusions. 10 day DL then reevaluation. Hope to see him in his rehab in AA.

BoomBoom
05-28-2018, 03:40 PM
Tomorrow's starter is fried, not allard. Allard starting for Gwinnett today

Yeah, minor league wrapup stated he was scratched from his last start to get extra rest following getting banged up from a collision on the infield. Apparently was never considered to start for the big club today. I think it will be soon though.

msstate7
05-28-2018, 03:47 PM
Delete

Bulldog1
05-28-2018, 03:51 PM
Culberson just CRUSHED that ball!!! Walkoff HR!!!

MaroonFlounder
05-28-2018, 03:54 PM
This team. Fun to watch. Culberson was hitting what? Barely .200? WoW?

shoeless joe
05-28-2018, 03:57 PM
Carle carried the pen early but has struggled lately. Fortunately some others have stepped up. Fun game...good win after squandering several chances late.

msstate7
05-28-2018, 04:04 PM
Carle carried the pen early but has struggled lately. Fortunately some others have stepped up. Fun game...good win after squandering several chances late.

Fun after culberson hit a hr. I was sick before that haha

Commercecomet24
05-28-2018, 04:06 PM
Big win today. This team is never out of any game. Makes it fun to watch!

Bulldog1
05-28-2018, 07:59 PM
Are we gonna get this game in tonight?

parabrave
05-28-2018, 09:02 PM
Are we gonna get this game in tonight?

getting ready to start now

parabrave
05-29-2018, 04:43 PM
Wow Keith Hernandez just ripped the braves for getting that 2nd game in last night. You can read what he said on DOBs Twitter/. He just called out the bullpen

msstate7
05-30-2018, 09:27 PM
Starting to fall apart.

Snit is running our 3 main guys offensively (FF, markakis, and albies) in the ground. None have gotten a day off all year. We are in the midst of a 15 games in 14 days stretch. Tonight would've been a good night to get 1 or 2 of them a rest before the huge nats' series this weekend.

The offense seems to struggle with everyone's starting pitching of late. We've bailed ourselves out late on some terrible relievers.

The pen is not looking good lately.

Not liking McCarthy and Sanchez back to back in rotation.

If I were capable of taking a break from the braves, I would do it this weekend. The nats are about to break their foot off in us. Dreams of the east are about to come to a crashing halt. Hope I'm wrong, but I am not feeling it right now at all

TUSK
05-30-2018, 09:30 PM
Hi-Jack: What the hell is y'all's mascot?

msstate7
05-30-2018, 09:34 PM
Hi-Jack: What the hell is y'all's mascot?

A possum at the moment

Bulldog1
05-30-2018, 09:40 PM
I haven't watched much the past week. This was my "break" from the Braves.

msstate7
05-30-2018, 09:47 PM
I haven't watched much the past week. This was my "break" from the Braves.

You chose a good time. This stretch has been hard on me

Matty Dispatch
05-31-2018, 06:19 AM
I do agree the team is tired, and it would've been much better to have Thursday off rather than Game 1 vs. the Nats, however, Nick Markakis has played at least 160 games six times in his career, at least 155 ten times; Freddie Freeman has a 12 game hitting streak; Ozzie Albies was 6 for 18 in the four game series vs. the Mets.

It's been a nice run for the Braves in first place, but didn't we always know the Nats would come charging (because they are really good on paper) and the Phillies would fall back (because their schedule has been light)?

The Braves were 5 games over .500 in April and with just one game left in May they are 4 games over .500 this month. Keep up that pace and you get to 95 wins which should at least win the wildcard. They just have to keep grinding, but a 4-6 stretch against teams with a combined 98-66 record isn't necessarily reason to believe they are fading.

msstate7
05-31-2018, 07:02 AM
I do agree the team is tired, and it would've been much better to have Thursday off rather than Game 1 vs. the Nats, however, Nick Markakis has played at least 160 games six times in his career, at least 155 ten times; Freddie Freeman has a 12 game hitting streak; Ozzie Albies was 6 for 18 in the four game series vs. the Mets.

It's been a nice run for the Braves in first place, but didn't we always know the Nats would come charging (because they are really good on paper) and the Phillies would fall back (because their schedule has been light)?

The Braves were 5 games over .500 in April and with just one game left in May they are 4 games over .500 this month. Keep up that pace and you get to 95 wins which should at least win the wildcard. They just have to keep grinding, but a 4-6 stretch against teams with a combined 98-66 record isn't necessarily reason to believe they are fading.

I really wanna be wrong, but I see issues starting to rise up. Our offensive Ks are going up. Snit is all-the-sudden obsessed with "saving the pen" to the point we put solovicggsrgjrfvg (whatever) and Matt wisler in high leverage spots the last week in winnable games, and bc of all the rest, our key cogs in the pen are all rusty when entering. Don't like the iron man routine with markakis (he's not young), FF (less so here bc 1b isn't as taxing), and albies (he is gonna blow by his career games total).

Oh and another thing, really wish snit would lose the old idea that a leadoff guy has to be fast. The top 3 of our lineup should be...

Markakis
Albies
FF

We won't run in front of FF anyway, so base stealers at the top is a waste. Ender can't hit lhp this season. Albies kills lhp, so break up markakis and FF with him

I know I'm freaking out some, but I just see some struggles creeping up

Matty Dispatch
05-31-2018, 08:50 AM
If you move Markakis to lead off then who is going to protect Freddie? Maybe when a Acuna gets back, but still he’s only a rookie. Maybe a better lineup would be:

1. Albies
2. Freeman
3. Markakis
4. Acuna
5. Suzuki/Flowers
6. Inciarte
7/8. Comargo/Swanson

msstate7
05-31-2018, 09:03 AM
If you move Markakis to lead off then who is going to protect Freddie? Maybe when a Acuna gets back, but still he’s only a rookie. Maybe a better lineup would be:

1. Albies
2. Freeman
3. Markakis
4. Acuna
5. Suzuki/Flowers
6. Inciarte
7/8. Comargo/Swanson

Markakis
Albies
FF
Catcher (Kurt .789 ops, flowers .894 ops)
Acuna
Ender
Camargo
Swanson

I like this lineup better bc...

You get markakis' .395 obp in front of Albies and FF.

If teams wanna bring in LH reliever late for markakis, albies is between markakis and FF to make that decision tougher.

We don't run in front of FF, so get your stealers (Acuna and ender) down in the lineup. Also, Camargo takes a bunch of pitches (18.4% bb rate) and doesn't strike out much (15.8% k rate), so he's perfect for runners to run during his ABs whether straight steal or hit and run.

shoeless joe
05-31-2018, 09:50 AM
Every time the braves struggle you go back to old reliable...blame snit. What's funny is how your go to used to be how he burnt the pen cuz he used it like every game was game 7...now you bitch because he's attempting to spread the wealth and use more guy's.

Maybe some guy's hafta step back up and do their job...carle and minter. Maybe baseball is a long damn season and everybody goes thru struggles at some point. Everybody.

Bottom line...most of us knew the nats would most likely end up winning the east. But this team should be in the wild card hunt come September.

msstate7
05-31-2018, 10:05 AM
Every time the braves struggle you go back to old reliable...blame snit. What's funny is how your go to used to be how he burnt the pen cuz he used it like every game was game 7...now you bitch because he's attempting to spread the wealth and use more guy's.

Maybe some guy's hafta step back up and do their job...carle and minter. Maybe baseball is a long damn season and everybody goes thru struggles at some point. Everybody.

Bottom line...most of us knew the nats would most likely end up winning the east. But this team should be in the wild card hunt come September.

Snit has done pretty good this year. He just goes completely overboard with ideas at times... early in the season he would make a double switch every night (this has stopped thank God), and now he's saving the pen way too much. I do like that he stopped pitching our guys every day, but there is a nice balance. You mentioned aj... well he went 5 days between action. Carle went 5 days between action. Viz went 6 days and then 5 days between action. Pitch guys an inning for 2 games in a row, and then rest them. Pitch guys once every other day, but don't go such long stretches

Matty Dispatch
05-31-2018, 02:29 PM
Markakis
Albies
FF
Catcher (Kurt .789 ops, flowers .894 ops)
Acuna
Ender
Camargo
Swanson

I like this lineup better bc...

You get markakis' .395 obp in front of Albies and FF.

If teams wanna bring in LH reliever late for markakis, albies is between markakis and FF to make that decision tougher.

We don't run in front of FF, so get your stealers (Acuna and ender) down in the lineup. Also, Camargo takes a bunch of pitches (18.4% bb rate) and doesn't strike out much (15.8% k rate), so he's perfect for runners to run during his ABs whether straight steal or hit and run.

Well, in the lineup I proposed, Enter would be hitting 6th and he's by far the most prolific base-stealer on the team. Also, who cares if they bring in a lefty for Markakis or Freeman or Albies because all three of the are hitting lefties better than they are righties.

msstate7
05-31-2018, 09:16 PM
And of course, the Braves win a huge one. Great job, Newcomb, winkler, and viz

Bulldog1
05-31-2018, 09:17 PM
Ummm... WE WON!!!

msstate7
05-31-2018, 09:18 PM
Ummm... WE WON!!!

Huge win. At least get 1 more this weekend

Liverpooldawg
05-31-2018, 09:25 PM
To paraphrase my hero, Bill Shankley, here we are with all our problems in first place.

shoeless joe
05-31-2018, 09:37 PM
This team plays hard and determined. And for all his questionable decisions the credit for that goes to the skipper. Newcomb is an ace. Need to catch lightning in a bottle with a youngster and go get a legit back end of the bullpen guy.

How much would/should the braves give up to go get Donaldson?

msstate7
05-31-2018, 10:11 PM
This team plays hard and determined. And for all his questionable decisions the credit for that goes to the skipper. Newcomb is an ace. Need to catch lightning in a bottle with a youngster and go get a legit back end of the bullpen guy.

How much would/should the braves give up to go get Donaldson?

Last year of Donaldson's contract. My guess is someone like kolby allard or Ian Anderson.

MetEdDawg
05-31-2018, 10:15 PM
Saw a report that said Moustakas talk is really picking up steam.

msstate7
05-31-2018, 10:18 PM
Saw a report that said Moustakas talk is really picking up steam.

Wish the A's would fade, and we could get lowrie. My wish list for 3b in order is...

1. Lowrie
2. Beltre
3. Donaldson
4. Mous

Matty Dispatch
06-01-2018, 06:37 AM
We have a 3B in AAA right now.

Draft hitting, pay for pitching.

msstate7
06-01-2018, 07:53 AM
We have a 3B in AAA right now.

Draft hitting, pay for pitching.

All of the guys I listed are 1/2 year rentals.

I'm a huge Riley guy, but he isn't ready this season imo. His 32.3% k rate is alarming

Bulldog1
06-01-2018, 08:59 PM
As good as Newk was last night, Folty has one-upped him tonight. Outstanding, guys!

msstate7
06-01-2018, 09:10 PM
This team... wow

Bulldog1
06-01-2018, 09:12 PM
This team... wow

At least they won after State got embarrassed today.

parabrave
06-01-2018, 09:12 PM
Wow Snit let folty get a CG shutout. Kept waiting for him to put Visciano in.

msstate7
06-01-2018, 09:17 PM
I'm so impressed our young pitchers have showed up like this these first 2 games. Need McCarthy to keep it going. Wouldn't be surprised if soroka and gohara replace McCarthy and Sanchez pretty soon

KOdawg1
06-01-2018, 09:18 PM
Thank God the Braves didn't let let me down today. This team is fun to watch

shoeless joe
06-01-2018, 09:34 PM
Outstanding performance by folty. I guarantee you the Nats were not expecting their suddenly hot offense to run into the buzz saw of these last two pitchers. But momentum is only as good as your next days starting pitcher...McCarthy let's see what you got.

parabrave
06-01-2018, 10:55 PM
I'm so impressed our young pitchers have showed up like this these first 2 games. Need McCarthy to keep it going. Wouldn't be surprised if soroka and gohara replace McCarthy and Sanchez pretty soon

I think Gohara is going to spend some time as middle relief. We really need him there.

msstate7
06-02-2018, 07:45 PM
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Mark Bowman
@mlbbowman
Snit says he entered today committed to staying away from Viz and Winkler. They both warmed during Folty?s CG last night and he wanted the available for tomorrow. He also noted that Winkler had a ?tough inning? Thursday.

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Snit, snit, snit... viz has pitched 2 innings the last week with 4 days in between games. Winkler has pitched 2 times this week with a day in between appearances. This was the game to use them... AJ 7th, winkler 8th, and viz 9th... you win series and guarantee 1st place after this series.

Snit also made a ridiculous double switch for no reason taking out the best defensive SS in the nl according to fangraphs for camargo. Camargo is a negative defender at SS. Scherzer got a ball by camargo that Swanson eats up every time.

Just a complete butcher job today by snit

msstate7
06-02-2018, 07:54 PM
Viz has pitched 3 times in the last 17 days. Yeah, he needs rest SMDH

Bulldog1
06-02-2018, 07:58 PM
Viz has pitched 3 times in the last 17 days. Yeah, he needs rest SMDH

Almost as bad as Henderson saying Self couldn't get 9 outs yesterday, yet he can today.

msstate7
06-03-2018, 07:43 AM
After today, our next 20 games are vs teams with losing records. If we truly are a contender, we need to make hay here

shoeless joe
06-03-2018, 02:39 PM
Hey msstate7...they're talkin bout u on the braves telecast

msstate7
06-03-2018, 02:48 PM
Hey msstate7...they're talkin bout u on the braves telecast

Haha... I've got it muted. What they say

shoeless joe
06-03-2018, 03:01 PM
Second time they've mentioned snits use of pen the last few days. Basically said nobody knows what's goin on with the team and the players more than the manager. Then joe says "everybody is a great manager in their own mind".

I got a good chuckle.

msstate7
06-03-2018, 03:04 PM
Second time they've mentioned snits use of pen the last few days. Basically said nobody knows what's goin on with the team and the players more than the manager. Then joe says "everybody is a great manager in their own mind".

I got a good chuckle.

We know why we didn't use viz or winkler yesterday. Snit burned them warming em up Friday night.

Tv wouldn't question snit if he called their wives a whore

msstate7
06-03-2018, 03:24 PM
Huge weekend. Great job, braves

Matty Dispatch
06-04-2018, 07:47 AM
Huge weekend. Great job, braves

Told you we were fine, haha.

I went to the game on Friday night went Folty pitch a CG. The level of eye candy at SunTrust is better than it was at the Ted since it's in the suburbs + the Battery.

msstate7
06-04-2018, 07:50 AM
Told you we were fine, haha.

I went to the game on Friday night went Folty pitch a CG. The level of eye candy at SunTrust is better than it was at the Ted since it's in the suburbs + the Battery.

I get carried away... once or twice a day haha

I love suntrust

Tbonewannabe
06-04-2018, 08:50 AM
I get carried away... once or twice a day haha

I love suntrust

Suntrust is definitely an upgrade. As a bonus for me, it is now only about 30 minutes in traffic from Woodstock to parking at Suntrust.

msstate7
06-30-2018, 09:15 PM
Half way point, and braves are 47-34. 1st place with a 3-game lead. I wanna add 4 players: Sergio romo, moustakas (LH part of 3b platoon), LH reliever (jerry Blevins or similar), and a PH option. All of these type players should be cheap to acquire. I don't want to part with allard

msstate7
06-30-2018, 09:22 PM
Make no mistake though, we still have a knuckle head as a manager. Why in the hell is sam freeman pitching? It is a 7-run lead with 1 out

Bulldog1
06-30-2018, 09:23 PM
Why is Sam Freeman in the game??????

msstate7
06-30-2018, 09:25 PM
Why is Sam Freeman in the game??????

Snit.

He isn't a smart man

msstate7
06-30-2018, 09:30 PM
We've played 81 games, and Sam freeman has pitched in 40. Totally unacceptable

BuckyIsAB****
06-30-2018, 09:33 PM
7, how likely are we to go after Harper or Machado this offseason

shoeless joe
06-30-2018, 09:35 PM
Freeman is in to put out the fire. Obviously snit hasn't forgotten the game at wrigley as quickly as y'all have

msstate7
06-30-2018, 09:36 PM
7, how likely are we to go after Harper or Machado this offseason

I just don't see it. Both will get historical level contracts.

BuckyIsAB****
06-30-2018, 09:37 PM
I just don't see it. Both will get historical level contracts.

Any other big fish we can afford? Or notable guys

msstate7
06-30-2018, 09:38 PM
Freeman is in to put out the fire. Obviously snit hasn't forgotten the game at wrigley as quickly as y'all have

40 appearances in 81 games. This is why Sam has become ineffective this season. Use Luke Jackson. Use Moylan. Don't use one of your only lh relievers in a laugher

msstate7
06-30-2018, 09:41 PM
Any other big fish we can afford? Or notable guys
Man, I really have no idea. I think we spend money suring up pen, and maybe LF (move Acuna to RF). I would love Harper to keep struggling enough to give us a shot at signing him

Bulldog1
06-30-2018, 09:41 PM
The Braves starting rotation has now posted the best ERA in the National League (3.34) through 81 games, bumping the Cardinals starting staff to second place (3.46)

msstate7
06-30-2018, 09:44 PM
I'm really getting exited about fried. He looks to be putting it together. I definitely start him vs Brewers next week

Bulldog1
06-30-2018, 09:49 PM
I'm really getting exited about fried. He looks to be putting it together. I definitely start him vs Brewers next week

He definitely has lots of potential. His curveball is nasty.

starkvegasdawg
06-30-2018, 10:01 PM
Second best record in NL and sixth best in MLB. I have to say I am more than shocked now.

BuckyIsAB****
06-30-2018, 10:07 PM
Man, I really have no idea. I think we spend money suring up pen, and maybe LF (move Acuna to RF). I would love Harper to keep struggling enough to give us a shot at signing him

How long will Acuna be on the team? I read something about him already having a contract beef

msstate7
06-30-2018, 10:15 PM
How long will Acuna be on the team? I read something about him already having a contract beef

Braves control him till 2024

msstate7
07-01-2018, 03:51 PM
And this is why you use moylan last night when you had a 7 run lead with1 runner on.

VandelayIndustries
07-01-2018, 03:55 PM
Just dropping in to say the bullpen is garbage, hopefully Moylan is DFA

msstate7
07-01-2018, 03:58 PM
I'll just give you the stats which I get in 1 minute of looking...

Biddle vs lhh = .361/.452/.694
Biddle vs rhh = .092/.213/.108

Moylan vs rhh = .300/.395/.443

Now tell me in which universe, you go get biddle for the lhh, and then pull him for moylan vs the rhh?

VandelayIndustries
07-01-2018, 04:06 PM
Oh Snit doesn't help

msstate7
07-01-2018, 04:32 PM
Great series.

Snit's job of managing pen will be easier when viz gets back. Add Sergio romo and jerry Blevins... sooner the better

msstate7
07-02-2018, 08:35 PM
Snit is the dumbest fricker alive. Sam freeman is not good. He's a decent pitcher than has now pitched in 41 of the braves 82 games. His era is over 5, snit. Give him a break for God's sake

msstate7
07-02-2018, 08:40 PM
Can't argue with the results. The move worked, but sam Freeman's work load is ridiculous

Really Clark?
07-02-2018, 09:39 PM
Wow. Big time Biddle! Talk about pitching out of a high leverage situation.

msstate7
07-02-2018, 09:45 PM
Wow. Big time Biddle! Talk about pitching out of a high leverage situation.

He needs more high leverage and sam freeman needs less. Biddle's reverse splits hurts us vs LHHs though. Need to get a LH specialist like Blevins. Blevins is in last year of contract and won't cost much

MetEdDawg
07-02-2018, 09:51 PM
Acuna with the most textbook pop up homer you will ever see. Dude has pop.

msstate7
07-02-2018, 09:53 PM
I give snit hell, but giving biddle 2nd inning was good move. Just got to quit killing sam freeman. 41 appearances in 83 games is ridiculous

msstate7
07-02-2018, 10:07 PM
Huge win. Braves are up 6.5 games on Nats. I realize Phillies are closer at 3.5 back, but the Nats are the real threat imo

MetEdDawg
07-02-2018, 10:11 PM
10 straight road games against teams with winning records. Last 7 straight against division leaders. 4-0 so far on that road trip.

This team is managing a difficult part of the schedule very well, especially considering how young these guys are.

Bulldog1
07-02-2018, 10:14 PM
I give snit hell, but giving biddle 2nd inning was good move. Just got to quit killing sam freeman. 41 appearances in 83 games is ridiculous

I think tonight was #42.

shoeless joe
07-02-2018, 10:22 PM
The dumbass has the braves 7 games up on the Nats...must be the best dumbass in baseball

Really Clark?
07-02-2018, 10:34 PM
He needs more high leverage and sam freeman needs less. Biddle's reverse splits hurts us vs LHHs though. Need to get a LH specialist like Blevins. Blevins is in last year of contract and won't cost much

I would like to see what it would take to get Conley from the Marlins. Only 17 innings from the pen after being tried as a starter but the numbers and splits look really good

msstate7
07-02-2018, 10:43 PM
The dumbass has the braves 7 games up on the Nats...must be the best dumbass in baseball

Snit does a good job for the most part. Few things he does that drives me nuts though:

1. When resting Albies or Swanson, he plays camargo at 2b or SS and culberson at 3b. Culberson is better than camargo at both MIF positions, and Camargo is better at 3b.

2. Overworks the crap out of sam freeman. Freeman is a decent bullpen piece that is overworked to the point of being ineffective.

3. Snit ignores reverse splits for pitchers

4. Won't let the call up pitchers pitch besides Wisler and Luke Jackson

Bulldog1
07-02-2018, 10:45 PM
I wouldn't mind us going after Avilan or Claudio.

Avilan
Vs. L - .213 avg, .265 obp, .326 slg, .259 wOBA, 1.61 FIP
Vs. R - .327 avg, .411 obp, .510 slg, .387 wOBA, 4.91 FIP

Claudio
Vs. L - .208 avg, .208 obp, .321 slg, .225 wOBA, 3.18 FIP
Vs. R - .414 avg, .454 obp, .560 slg, .428 wOBA, 2.84 FIP

msstate7
07-02-2018, 10:53 PM
Conley, Claudio, and Avilan are all in last year of contract too. Sounds good to me. I just want to be trading Wisler and not allard

shoeless joe
07-03-2018, 09:05 AM
Snit does a good job for the most part. Few things he does that drives me nuts though:

1. When resting Albies or Swanson, he plays camargo at 2b or SS and culberson at 3b. Culberson is better than camargo at both MIF positions, and Camargo is better at 3b.

2. Overworks the crap out of sam freeman. Freeman is a decent bullpen piece that is overworked to the point of being ineffective.

3. Snit ignores reverse splits for pitchers

4. Won't let the call up pitchers pitch besides Wisler and Luke Jackson

No doubt he makes some head scratching decisions from our perspective...but he's also over performing so far this season

msstate7
07-03-2018, 09:12 AM
No doubt he makes some head scratching decisions from our perspective...but he's also over performing so far this season

Results have been outstanding. Wish snit would get him a more analytical pitching coach this offseason, and let said PC handle more of the pen management.

dawgs
07-03-2018, 10:10 AM
Huge win. Braves are up 6.5 games on Nats. I realize Phillies are closer at 3.5 back, but the Nats are the real threat imo

Nats are gonna catch fire at some point. Probably will correspond with the pending average correction coming to harper's stats. A BABIP of .220 when his batted ball profile is in line with his career numbers just ain't sustainable for the long haul, he's due to spike his average 50+ points with a ridiculously hot couple of weeks. Rendon has finally started hitting a bit too.

dawgs
07-03-2018, 10:12 AM
Also, I may be wrong, but I'd bet on significant fading from the barves pitching staff in the 2nd half. Too many young guys not used to throwing 200 IP to expect this dominance in the 2md half.

msstate7
07-03-2018, 10:40 AM
Also, I may be wrong, but I'd bet on significant fading from the barves pitching staff in the 2nd half. Too many young guys not used to throwing 200 IP to expect this dominance in the 2md half.

AA has been sending starters to the DL to keep their work load down.

msstate7
07-03-2018, 10:44 AM
https://www.mlb.com/news/trade-deadl...?tid=282421090

2. Mike Moustakas, Royals: The veteran third baseman is having another solid season on the offensive side, ranking 10th among qualified big league third basemen with a .477 slugging percentage. Additionally, he maintains one of the lowest strikeout rates (14.4 percent) at the position while seeing his walk rate (7.3 percent) rise relative to his 2017 clip (5.7 percent). Moose was not dealt last year after Kansas City opted to keep its core together for another postseason run, but that should not be the case this summer with the Royals sitting more than 30 games under .500.

Prediction: Moustakas goes to the Braves for a pair of prospects, left-hander Kolby Allard (MLB.com's No. 50 prospect) and right-hander Touki Toussaint (Atlanta's No. 11 prospect).

7. Zach Britton, Orioles: Britton is still trying to get himself into pitching form after missing the first two-plus months while recovering from surgery to repair a ruptured right Achilles, and scouts have said Britton's fastball velocity and movement are below what they want from a major trade piece. Expecting the 30-year-old to improve considerably may be wishful thinking, but he is a buy-low candidate with high upside. At his best, Britton is a dominant closer that any team would love to add to the back of their bullpen. The Braves have surprised everyone and should make a bold move.

Prediction: Britton joins Atlanta for left-hander Max Fried (MLB.com's No. 73 prospect).

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How does this clown have a job?

MetEdDawg
07-03-2018, 10:55 AM
https://www.mlb.com/news/trade-deadl...?tid=282421090

2. Mike Moustakas, Royals: The veteran third baseman is having another solid season on the offensive side, ranking 10th among qualified big league third basemen with a .477 slugging percentage. Additionally, he maintains one of the lowest strikeout rates (14.4 percent) at the position while seeing his walk rate (7.3 percent) rise relative to his 2017 clip (5.7 percent). Moose was not dealt last year after Kansas City opted to keep its core together for another postseason run, but that should not be the case this summer with the Royals sitting more than 30 games under .500.

Prediction: Moustakas goes to the Braves for a pair of prospects, left-hander Kolby Allard (MLB.com's No. 50 prospect) and right-hander Touki Toussaint (Atlanta's No. 11 prospect).

7. Zach Britton, Orioles: Britton is still trying to get himself into pitching form after missing the first two-plus months while recovering from surgery to repair a ruptured right Achilles, and scouts have said Britton's fastball velocity and movement are below what they want from a major trade piece. Expecting the 30-year-old to improve considerably may be wishful thinking, but he is a buy-low candidate with high upside. At his best, Britton is a dominant closer that any team would love to add to the back of their bullpen. The Braves have surprised everyone and should make a bold move.

Prediction: Britton joins Atlanta for left-hander Max Fried (MLB.com's No. 73 prospect).

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How does this clown have a job?

Wow. So we are gonna give up 3 of our best pitching prospects for Moose and Britton? That will never happen. What an awful article.

msstate7
07-03-2018, 11:02 AM
Wow. So we are gonna give up 3 of our best pitching prospects for Moose and Britton? That will never happen. What an awful article.

Might as well give up Acuna and Riley for a half year of Machado. What about Pache and albies for starlin Castro? Can't believe someone proposed that moose trade in particular

Bulldog1
07-03-2018, 03:45 PM
Saw someone on another site mention Aaron Loup as someone we could get as a situational lefty.

He is in his final year of his contract.

L/R Splits
Vs. L - .245 avg, .322 obp, .327 slg, .289 wOBA, 2.54 FIP

Vs. R - .288 avg, .344 obp, .491 slg, .353 wOBA, 3.61 FIP

BoomBoom
07-03-2018, 07:06 PM
Might as well give up Acuna and Riley for a half year of Machado. What about Pache and albies for starlin Castro? Can't believe someone proposed that moose trade in particular

I predict Kyle Wright for a solid #3 under contract thru 2019.

msstate7
07-03-2018, 07:18 PM
I predict Kyle Wright for a solid #3 under contract thru 2019.

He's looking much better of late.

parabrave
07-04-2018, 03:08 PM
Hope that arm contusion doesn't keep Freddie out long. FU CC.

msstate7
07-04-2018, 03:19 PM
Hope that arm contusion doesn't keep Freddie out long. FU CC.

Yeah, a day or 2 off for FF might be a good thing. He's been really struggling

MetEdDawg
07-05-2018, 08:03 AM
I predict Kyle Wright for a solid #3 under contract thru 2019.

This. We've pushed Wright up pretty quickly but I think he's top notch. If we could get a solid #2 or #3, or find a way to get a couple bullpen arms for him, we need to do it.

BoomBoom
07-05-2018, 03:22 PM
This. We've pushed Wright up pretty quickly but I think he's top notch. If we could get a solid #2 or #3, or find a way to get a couple bullpen arms for him, we need to do it.

I think he's actually a bit behind in his development from what was expected when he was drafted.

I just think he's been solid but ranks behind 6 or 7 of our projected rotation for the next couple years, but has that top pick cache still going for him. Seems like the right guy to trade and the right time. And I dont think we mind adding a solid piece in the rotation for this year and next, but no longer. Wright for 1.5 years of an established but not overpaid starter seems right.

MetEdDawg
07-05-2018, 03:26 PM
I think he's actually a bit behind in his development from what was expected when he was drafted.

I just think he's been solid but ranks behind 6 or 7 of our projected rotation for the next couple years, but has that top pick cache still going for him. Seems like the right guy to trade and the right time. And I dont think we mind adding a solid piece in the rotation for this year and next, but no longer. Wright for 1.5 years of an established but not overpaid starter seems right.

Agreed. I haven't been super happy with his development but it seems like the organization is content with pushing him along. I think he's the perfect trade piece to get a reliever

msstate7
07-05-2018, 03:37 PM
Touki is starting tonight at AAA.

If allard can continue to improve his k rate, we could see him and touki at some point this season. Weigel is another guy to keep an eye on. I love weigel... hopefully he comes back from TJ strong

Bulldog1
07-05-2018, 03:42 PM
Matt Powers says:

“With just over 24 hours to go before the signing deadline, I’m starting to feel less confident in the chances of the Braves signing Carter Stewart than I was earlier today. Two different reports have seemed to turn momentum the other way“

RocketDawg
07-05-2018, 09:50 PM
Did you see that blast to straightaway center field by the Brewers? Long one. The Braves are going to have to do some scoring in the 9th.

msstate7
07-06-2018, 10:37 PM
Trouble, trouble... tied with Phillies and nats a coming.

Not sure who I'm more disappointed in tonight...

1. Albies for running into the 1st out at 3rd in the 1st inning. Should've been a run in a 1-run loss.

2. Snit for PR culberson instead of santana when it was clear we'd need a PH 1 batter later. Snit then PH flaherty (.469 ops since May 1st) instead of flowers in the 9th bc of lefty/righty stupidness.

3. AA for screwing up the 8th pick in the draft. AA has to share the blame for garbage butt flaherty still be an option for a dummy like snit to use.

Just sick right now...

Bulldog1
07-06-2018, 10:43 PM
We've got big problems. Starting with management.

MetEdDawg
07-06-2018, 10:45 PM
I think this organization is going to be afraid to make moves this year. We need change badly right now and no one in management seems to want to make that move. Pitching is horrid right now. We need shake up there.

klong-dog
07-06-2018, 10:59 PM
Should have scored 3 in the first. I like being aggressive but with 0 outs, you can't the that chance.

7th inning, 2ns & 3rd 0 outs and can't get a run in there. Santana can't even put in play. Time for him to go.

msstate7
07-06-2018, 11:07 PM
First 4 game losing streak of year. Time to respond

klong-dog
07-07-2018, 08:15 AM
Freddie has to snap out of it. 16 games is plenty for a shit streak.

BoomBoom
07-07-2018, 12:45 PM
Trouble, trouble... tied with Phillies and nats a coming.

Not sure who I'm more disappointed in tonight...

1. Albies for running into the 1st out at 3rd in the 1st inning. Should've been a run in a 1-run loss.

2. Snit for PR culberson instead of santana when it was clear we'd need a PH 1 batter later. Snit then PH flaherty (.469 ops since May 1st) instead of flowers in the 9th bc of lefty/righty stupidness.

3. AA for screwing up the 8th pick in the draft. AA has to share the blame for garbage butt flaherty still be an option for a dummy like snit to use.

Just sick right now...

Snit has been letting Ender do that all year. multiple outs at 3rd. he's an idiot.

Really Clark?
07-07-2018, 01:41 PM
We've got big problems. Starting with management.


Snit has been letting Ender do that all year. multiple outs at 3rd. he's an idiot.

That’s Ron Washington’s aggressiveness but it’s also allowed us to score some runs when we didn’t last year. It’s a fine line with that type of aggression and you have to hold the player accountable to read that situation better as well

klong-dog
07-07-2018, 06:03 PM
Freddie has to snap out of it. 16 games is plenty for a shit streak.

You're welcome.

shoeless joe
07-07-2018, 07:37 PM
MS7...you can back if the ledge now. It's a long season. At least this year will be exciting one way or another

msstate7
07-07-2018, 08:18 PM
MS7...you can back if the ledge now. It's a long season. At least this year will be exciting one way or another

Good win. Great job, Sanchez

Liverpooldawg
07-07-2018, 08:45 PM
We've got big problems. Starting with management.

To paraphrase my hero Bill Shankley: Ahh yes here we are with all our problems at the top of the division.

parabrave
07-08-2018, 02:22 PM
Dam now Newcombe is pulling his best Steve Avery impression. The Pitching or recently inconsistent pitching is going to start to become a problem.

msstate7
07-08-2018, 02:26 PM
Dam now Newcombe is pulling his best Steve Avery impression. The Pitching or recently inconsistent pitching is going to start to become a problem.

I've really enjoyed this 1st half. I think we win be smoked from here out though.

parabrave
07-08-2018, 02:51 PM
I've really enjoyed this 1st half. I think we win be smoked from here out though.

We are not going to get smoked that bad. The major problem for is the pitching. It has been so inconsistent lately. Folty and Newcombe are pitching like they are worn out. Terhen is hopefully over his injury. The major problem in the East is that the Phillies are starting to get hot at the right time.

msstate7
07-08-2018, 02:55 PM
We are not going to get smoked that bad. The major problem for is the pitching. It has been so inconsistent lately. Folty and Newcombe are pitching like they are worn out. Terhen is hopefully over his injury. The major problem in the East is that the Phillies are starting to get hot at the right time.

I think the Phillies add big pieces. I don't see us doing the same bc we don't have money and don't wanna trade too much prospect capital

msstate7
07-08-2018, 02:57 PM
I get on snit all the time, but great move pulling ender. If ender doesn't care enough to run out a fly ball, let em sit

KOdawg1
07-08-2018, 03:46 PM
Ender is a dumb***

msstate7
07-08-2018, 03:48 PM
Wouldn't be a braves' game without sam freeman pitching, and giving up a run

KOdawg1
07-08-2018, 03:50 PM
This is the collapse I was afraid was coming.

I realize we've played a brutal road stretch, but we're not even competitive in the games we're losing. Bone headed base running, bad at-bats, bad starting pitching, etc..

They better wake up in a hurry because the Phillies and the Nationals are coming on quick.

KOdawg1
07-08-2018, 03:55 PM
At least the Phillies lost too

shoeless joe
07-08-2018, 05:09 PM
It's a long season. The braved team that lost to the giants in 10 or 11 had a 10 game losing streak.

As far as ender goes, I guarantee you that snit had already discussed hustling on the base paths previously this year. I've noticed It quite a few times myself that he'll get frustrated and not even give 50% down the line. Snit did the rite thing by benching him. I'd like to see him sit out at least one more game. He's an elite level defender in center but he's apparently not as good as he thinks. That sorta thing can turn quick on a young team dealing with the ups and downs of a long season.

MetEdDawg
07-08-2018, 11:03 PM
It's a long season. The braved team that lost to the giants in 10 or 11 had a 10 game losing streak.

As far as ender goes, I guarantee you that snit had already discussed hustling on the base paths previously this year. I've noticed It quite a few times myself that he'll get frustrated and not even give 50% down the line. Snit did the rite thing by benching him. I'd like to see him sit out at least one more game. He's an elite level defender in center but he's apparently not as good as he thinks. That sorta thing can turn quick on a young team dealing with the ups and downs of a long season.

Snit said in the post game interview that he had talked to Ender about it before. Definitely the right move and I agree. Would love to see him out Tuesday vs the Blue Jays. I didn't get to see it live but heard it live on the radio. Radio guys instantly called it out for what it was.

msstate7
08-18-2018, 09:46 PM
I came and watched this crap. Minter has a blister and snit left him in to lose lead. Then he goes to Luke freaking Jackson. Luke Jackson, you serious, snit?

msstate7
08-18-2018, 09:48 PM
Stolen from chop country...

Braves now 44-47 against all teams not named Marlins or Mets.

shoeless joe
08-18-2018, 10:24 PM
Long season...

msstate7
08-18-2018, 10:28 PM
Long season...

Yeah, I know. I'm red line at the moment though... horrible loss

klong-dog
08-18-2018, 11:18 PM
This loss, combined with last night's beating and the blown 9th inning in game 1 of the series, all 3 defeats that could send us into a tail spin that we can't ever find our way out of. Tonight's being the worst of the bunch. It's getting to a point where, i have absolutely no faith in anyone out of the pen.

msstate7
08-18-2018, 11:33 PM
This loss, combined with last night's beating and the blown 9th inning in game 1 of the series, all 3 defeats that could send us into a tail spin that we can't ever find our way out of. Tonight's being the worst of the bunch. It's getting to a point where, i have absolutely no faith in anyone out of the pen.
If minter's blister issue is lingering, we screwed

msstate7
08-19-2018, 08:53 AM
Minter had a cut on his thumb, not a blister. Good news imo. My apologies to snit... I'd have left AJ in there with a little cut too

MetEdDawg
08-19-2018, 10:34 AM
If minter's blister issue is lingering, we screwed

Not really. Sobotka has closer stuff. He could be the guy tomorrow and I would be totally fine with that. I think the off-season plan was probably to get a closer thinking we would have a good year this year and build on that in the offseason.

Now we are mid August leading the division and we are seeing some of the deficiencies. No true closer (never was a huge fan of Vizcaino even when healthy). Not enough bullpen arms. No game changer at catcher. No power bench bat and the guy we traded for in Duvall is awful.

I think in the end we miss the playoffs. The national league is deep this year in terms of quality teams. 10 teams over .500. It's a tough league and every team has some good and bad. We've had some struggles hitting good teams enough to win. We need our starting pitching to continue being good and Newcomb to buck up and quit sucking. The bullpen has to get it together. Albies has got to start swinging it better from the left side. I think we miss the wild card by a game or 2 but will have some very fun and exciting games down the stretch to propel us for next year.

MaroonFlounder
08-19-2018, 03:03 PM
The Braves Bullpen is dogshit. The worst possible time for a balk by Brach, after his failure the other night.

A Rockies sweep coming up.

KOdawg1
08-19-2018, 03:20 PM
Pretty pathetic 4 game stretch. Should've at least gone 2-2. 44-48 against teams not named the Mets or Marlins is pretty telling.

msstate7
08-19-2018, 03:21 PM
The Braves Bullpen is dogshit. The worst possible time for a balk by Brach, after his failure the other night.

A Rockies sweep coming up.

When you scoring 2-3 runs a game vs Rockies, you will lose... a lot. Offense has a huge part in this sweep

MaroonFlounder
08-19-2018, 08:37 PM
When you scoring 2-3 runs a game vs Rockies, you will lose... a lot. Offense has a huge part in this sweep

True, but I think there was a late lead in 2 of the 4 games, and the bullpen blew both. If the Braves somehow do well enough down the stretch to make the playoffs, they will not be able to win close games. They won't score many runs vs the best pitching.

msstate7
08-19-2018, 09:44 PM
Phillies lose again. Braves and Phillies should be embarrassed for this weekend

Matty Dispatch
08-20-2018, 07:21 AM
The Cubs are 71-52, three games ahead of the Braves in overall NL standings. Then here's teams 2-7:

Braves: 68-55
DBacks: 69-56
Phillies: 68-56
Rockies: 68-56
Brewers: 69-57
Cardinals: 68-57

All within 1/2 game of each other. Then the Dodgers are only one game behind the Cards at 67-58. It's all pretty even in the NL this year. Every team has their deficiencies - Braves have their bullpen. It's good to be in the race.....one where we could have the best record in the league or just as easily miss the playoffs entirely. Should be fun to watch.

msstate7
08-20-2018, 07:39 AM
The braves' weakness is the NL West at home. Stolen from chop country...


"Atlanta finishes with a 5-13 home record vs. the NL West in 2018:

Colorado (0-4)
Arizona (1-2)
Los Angeles (1-3)
San Francisco (0-3)
San Diego (3-1)"

...

Thank God, we're done with them

Matty Dispatch
08-20-2018, 12:18 PM
The braves' weakness is the NL West at home. Stolen from chop country...


"Atlanta finishes with a 5-13 home record vs. the NL West in 2018:

Colorado (0-4)
Arizona (1-2)
Los Angeles (1-3)
San Francisco (0-3)
San Diego (3-1)"

...

Thank God, we're done with them

The sad part is that the San Fran and Colorado series took place when fans were the most excited about the season only to see us get swept at home.

smootness
08-20-2018, 12:27 PM
Pretty pathetic 4 game stretch. Should've at least gone 2-2. 44-48 against teams not named the Mets or Marlins is pretty telling.

You can do this with a lot of teams.

The D-Backs are 53-51 against teams not named the Padres or Marlins. And that's the 1st team I checked.

ETA: Indians are 37-41 against teams not named the Orioles, Royals, White Sox, or Tigers.

This is just how it goes. Beating up on bad teams is part of what good teams do.

fishwater99
08-20-2018, 12:34 PM
Let's go Rockies !!!

msstate7
08-20-2018, 12:41 PM
You can do this with a lot of teams.

The D-Backs are 53-51 against teams not named the Padres or Marlins. And that's the 1st team I checked.

ETA: Indians are 37-41 against teams not named the Orioles, Royals, White Sox, or Tigers.

This is just how it goes. Beating up on bad teams is part of what good teams do.

Don't you come talking reasonable in my mad thread lol

Terrible weekend, but I'm over it... beat the bucs

msstate7
08-20-2018, 03:16 PM
Bryse Wilson debuting tonight. Another great 20-year-old prospect.

Flaherty DFA'd.

MaroonFlounder
08-20-2018, 05:41 PM
Can Adam Frazier go 5 for 5 and the Braves still win? I would love to see that.

msstate7
08-22-2018, 10:25 AM
Nice response by the braves after a frustrating weekend. Got to make hay this weekend with 4 games vs marlins.

MaroonFlounder
08-22-2018, 05:30 PM
Clutch hits with RISP are not happening like they were a couple weeks ago. I like the young pitchers, though

shoeless joe
08-22-2018, 09:54 PM
3game lead

msstate7
08-22-2018, 09:56 PM
3game lead

Braves face marlins. Phillies face scherzer tomorrow. This time tomorrow, the Phillies could be closer to the nats than the braves. Need ya, newcomb

msstate7
08-29-2018, 11:24 AM
4.5 game lead with 31 games to go. The braves have the largest division lead in the NL. I'm starting to get excited.

Really hope the braves can snag josh Donaldson for the stretch run

smootness
08-29-2018, 11:30 AM
We're the best team in the division, have been all year. It will be hard for us not to win it.

msstate7
08-29-2018, 11:34 AM
We're the best team in the division, have been all year. It will be hard for us not to win it.

Up until a few weeks ago, I thought the nats would catch us. Never been that scared of Phillies.

I actually like where we are positioned right now too. If we stay 2-seed, we'd get home series vs west winner. I'd much rather than draw than brewers or cards

Tbonewannabe
08-29-2018, 11:54 AM
Up until a few weeks ago, I thought the nats would catch us. Never been that scared of Phillies.

I actually like where we are positioned right now too. If we stay 2-seed, we'd get home series vs west winner. I'd much rather than draw than brewers or cards

Nats having Max Scherzer certainly helps their chances. We still don't have a shutdown ace like that but we do have a great young pitching staff. Gausman has been a great pickup.

MetEdDawg
08-29-2018, 12:19 PM
Right now the playoff rotation is Gausman, Folty, and ???? Need Newcomb to pick it up because a month ago I would be saying he's definitely the 3rd starter in a playoff series.

Newcomb has a better ERA but a higher WHIP than Teheran. Teheran has a .20 better BAA. But he gives up a metric crap ton of homers. I would prefer it to be Newcomb but he's got to pitch better.

As long as the bats continue to do their job we will win the division. But if we regress to what we did against the Marlins last week while we are playing some the best teams in baseball we are screwed.

parabrave
08-29-2018, 12:26 PM
Gausam has been a great, surprise, pickup.

smootness
08-29-2018, 01:23 PM
Newcomb's just up and down. His last start was great, the two before that were bad, but the 3 before that were great. He just needs to become more consistent. I think he's still our best option in the 3rd slot in a playoff series.

I don't want to face the Dodgers in that series if we can help it, even if it's at home. Obviously I'll take that over a road series or the play-in game, but I'd actually rather play the Cards or Brewers than the Dodgers. I doubt we catch the Cubs, though.

msstate7
08-29-2018, 04:48 PM
Braves finally address LH PH by getting Duda. Good move.

Not as sure about Rivera, but gotta assume he upgrades Chris Stewart

MetEdDawg
08-29-2018, 06:29 PM
Braves finally address LH PH by getting Duda. Good move.

Not as sure about Rivera, but gotta assume he upgrades Chris Stewart

Problem is doesn't that say quite a bit about our feelings on Stewart? Can't imagine we have hardly any faith in him at all with us getting Rivera. Additionally, I would imagine us getting Flowers inked this early means we like him as our starter next year? Not gonna go after a big time catcher or even some upgrade?

BoomBoom
08-29-2018, 08:24 PM
4.5 game lead with 31 games to go. The braves have the largest division lead in the NL. I'm starting to get excited.

Really hope the braves can snag josh Donaldson for the stretch run

We have a really tough September schedule, including 7 against the Phillies.

I didnt like the Gausman trade, but I gave the caveat that if they saw something they could fix, then it's a good deal. And boy did they.

In the offseason I see them trading for a corner OF that has 2 years left on a deal. That lines them up to plug Pache in and trade Ender maybe for 2020, then plug in Waters or Jenista in 2021.

I see Carmago getting the 3B job. That gives them the flexibility to see how Swanson and Albies adjust. If they have to they can call up Riley and slide Camargo over to one of those spots.

Teheran will be traded, and Touki will be the 4th starter. Competition in spring for the 5th spot. I think Wilson has the inside track.

MetEdDawg
08-29-2018, 08:35 PM
We have a really tough September schedule, including 7 against the Phillies.

I didnt like the Gausman trade, but I gave the caveat that if they saw something they could fix, then it's a good deal. And boy did they.

In the offseason I see them trading for a corner OF that has 2 years left on a deal. That lines them up to plug Pache in and trade Ender maybe for 2020, then plug in Waters or Jenista in 2021.

I see Carmago getting the 3B job. That gives them the flexibility to see how Swanson and Albies adjust. If they have to they can call up Riley and slide Camargo over to one of those spots.

Teheran will be traded, and Touki will be the 4th starter. Competition in spring for the 5th spot. I think Wilson has the inside track.

Touki is ready now. Would love to see him get some starts down the stretch. I would be more comfortable with Teheran going if I was more sure about Newcomb. But he flat out sucks the last 4-5 games. Fatigue maybe? We've also got Fried that has a chance, but Folty and Gausman is a good start for a 1-2 next year.

I would love to see us upgrade the left side of the infield for 2 years. I'm not sure Riley will be ready next year. A one year rental would be fine with me, trade Dansby, and let Camargo handle SS. The position that really confuses me is catcher. Are we really gonna go with Flowers and make that call this early by resigning him? That shocked me a little

BoomBoom
08-30-2018, 07:26 AM
Touki is ready now. Would love to see him get some starts down the stretch. I would be more comfortable with Teheran going if I was more sure about Newcomb. But he flat out sucks the last 4-5 games. Fatigue maybe? We've also got Fried that has a chance, but Folty and Gausman is a good start for a 1-2 next year.

I would love to see us upgrade the left side of the infield for 2 years. I'm not sure Riley will be ready next year. A one year rental would be fine with me, trade Dansby, and let Camargo handle SS. The position that really confuses me is catcher. Are we really gonna go with Flowers and make that call this early by resigning him? That shocked me a little

Touki absolutely will be starting a few down the stretch. A few other guys will be in the pen.

Newcomb probably has a little fatigue. Dont forget the 130 pitches he threw in the near no.hitter.

You are still underestimating the defensive value of Swanson.

Flowers is the backup. They'll make a.run at a couple stud Catchers, but I wouldn't be surprised if they resign Suzuki or similar.

smootness
08-30-2018, 08:47 AM
We have a really tough September schedule, including 7 against the Phillies.

I didnt like the Gausman trade, but I gave the caveat that if they saw something they could fix, then it's a good deal. And boy did they.

In the offseason I see them trading for a corner OF that has 2 years left on a deal. That lines them up to plug Pache in and trade Ender maybe for 2020, then plug in Waters or Jenista in 2021.

I see Carmago getting the 3B job. That gives them the flexibility to see how Swanson and Albies adjust. If they have to they can call up Riley and slide Camargo over to one of those spots.

Teheran will be traded, and Touki will be the 4th starter. Competition in spring for the 5th spot. I think Wilson has the inside track.

I agree with pretty much all of this, at least in terms of what I would like to see.

I do think it's possible Waters is ready by mid-2020, though.

msstate7
08-30-2018, 08:50 AM
Watch for my boy, weigel, this spring. I think he makes the team by May as a reliever or maybe even a starter

Tbonewannabe
08-30-2018, 10:06 AM
Touki absolutely will be starting a few down the stretch. A few other guys will be in the pen.

Newcomb probably has a little fatigue. Dont forget the 130 pitches he threw in the near no.hitter.

You are still underestimating the defensive value of Swanson.

Flowers is the backup. They'll make a.run at a couple stud Catchers, but I wouldn't be surprised if they resign Suzuki or similar.

Flowers and Suzuki are adequate but it would be nice to have a premium level catcher. Swanson is a top 5 or better defensive SS, hopefully his bat comes around.

msstate7
08-30-2018, 10:30 AM
Flowers and Suzuki are adequate but it would be nice to have a premium level catcher. Swanson is a top 5 or better defensive SS, hopefully his bat comes around.

Swanson is at .713 ops right now. Not great, but hardly terrible. If he can get that to around .750, he becomes extremely valuable

smootness
08-30-2018, 10:43 AM
Flowers and Suzuki are adequate but it would be nice to have a premium level catcher. Swanson is a top 5 or better defensive SS, hopefully his bat comes around.

There really aren't many 'premium' catchers...or at least, Flowers and Suzuki aren't that far off from the best in baseball.

Suzuki + Flowers combined fWAR last year = 5.2
Suzuki + Flowers combined fWAR this year = 2.4

Last year, they were 7th and 9th respectively in catcher WAR despite splitting time, and the Braves led baseball in catcher WAR.
This year, they are both t17th in catcher WAR, but the Braves are still 7th in baseball as a team in catcher WAR.

The Braves are doing well at catcher. Now obviously, they may not re-sign Suzuki, and they are both aging. But they are doing well there. The best catcher in the league will only put up 4-5 WAR by himself. There just aren't many elite catchers, and even those that are don't have quite the value of the top players at other positions. It would be nice to upgrade catcher, but there just aren't many options out there that would actually be an upgrade, and virtually none that are available. Realmuto and Grandal are about the only ones who could be had.

msstate7
08-30-2018, 10:46 AM
There really aren't many 'premium' catchers...or at least, Flowers and Suzuki aren't that far off from the best in baseball.

Suzuki + Flowers combined fWAR last year = 5.2
Suzuki + Flowers combined fWAR this year = 2.4

Last year, they were 7th and 9th respectively in catcher WAR despite splitting time, and the Braves led baseball in catcher WAR.
This year, they are both t17th in catcher WAR, but the Braves are still 7th in baseball as a team in catcher WAR.

The Braves are doing well at catcher. Now obviously, they may not re-sign Suzuki, and they are both aging. But they are doing well there. The best catcher in the league will only put up 4-5 WAR by himself. There just aren't many elite catchers, and even those that are don't have quite the value of the top players at other positions. It would be nice to upgrade catcher, but there just aren't many options out there that would actually be an upgrade, and virtually none that are available. Realmuto and Grandal are about the only ones who could be had.

And both will be very expensive... grandal money wise and realmuto prospects. Pass on both

Tbonewannabe
08-30-2018, 03:26 PM
And both will be very expensive... grandal money wise and realmuto prospects. Pass on both

Any good catchers in the farm system?

msstate7
08-30-2018, 03:35 PM
Any good catchers in the farm system?

Good: William Contreras A+

Could be good: Lucas Herbert A+, drew lugbauer A

About to give up on: Alex Jackson AAA

msstate7
09-05-2018, 02:59 PM
Well that was the kind of loss that costs you a magical season. With grienke and Corbin on back to back days, I expect this slide to continue. Braves are now 3-13 in the 2nd half vs winning teams with 16 more games vs winning teams left. Phillies, opportunity knocks... I expect them to take advantage. Just awful! Spit!

ScoobaDawg
09-05-2018, 03:04 PM
Noone cares. They suck. Damnit why did you make ANOTHER thread...

Matty Dispatch
09-05-2018, 03:05 PM
Hey every time you start a thread to say we are about to fall apart we go on a winning streak. Good thinking to start one now.

msstate7
09-05-2018, 03:07 PM
Hey every time you start a thread to say we are about to fall apart we go on a winning streak. Good thinking to start one now.

The positive one last time certainly didn't work. I bought tix for September 22nd, and have a feeling I'll get to see the Phillies dog pile

ScoobaDawg
09-05-2018, 03:09 PM
Well now you don't have to start another new thread... this season

msstate7
09-05-2018, 03:11 PM
Noone cares. They suck. Damnit why did you make ANOTHER thread...

Thanks. The one you moved this to had over 5000 views, so apparently someone does care

ScoobaDawg
09-05-2018, 03:13 PM
Thanks. The one you moved this to had over 5000 views, so apparently someone does care

Ugh no. I merged about a dozen threads you have posted this season. So not exactly.

Matty Dispatch
09-05-2018, 03:40 PM
Ugh no. I merged about a dozen threads you have posted this season. So not exactly.

There are at least a dozen people on this board who post on the Braves threads. I click on them every time I come to this board, and maybe only one or two State threads.

msstate7
09-05-2018, 03:54 PM
This is a huge series with the dbacks now. Obviously I overreacted to this loss, but this it's a must we at least get a split with the dbacks. Really need some help from marlins and Mets this week.

Matty Dispatch
09-05-2018, 04:16 PM
Up 2.5 games with 23 games to play - 6 of them vs. the Phillies. Let's just assume that out of those six games it's a 3-3 split. In the other 17 games the Braves play, if they just went 9-8 it would mean the Phillies would have to go 12-6 in their other 18 remaining games for a tie. Despite the recent losses we're still in the driver's seat....just play .500 ball on this west coast trip and it should be fine.

KOdawg1
09-05-2018, 04:16 PM
How in the holy crap did we blow a 7-1 lead? I know it's the Red Sox but damn

Political Hack
09-05-2018, 04:19 PM
Went Monday. Brutal. Sox did to the Braves what the braves had been doing to everyone else. Granted they were starting a rookie in his 2nd appearance on the mound, but the Sox were still impressive.