Rebel Rags motions start today

[Leeshouldveflanked]

In downtown New Albany.

[shannondawg]

Wish I had known, would have attended.

[Jack Lambert]

I wonder if anyone not going to stand when the judge comes in as a freedom of speech.

[idog]

thought about walking in with my maroon on and asking if they had anything for free.

[TrapGame]

thought about walking in with my maroon on and asking if they had anything for free.

Should of asked if they were selling copies of Flim Flam too.

[Ari Gold]

What a waste of time and money...

[Doggie_Style]

What a waste of time and money...

Indeed it is....it is also likely to drag out for years. RR is in a fight for their very existence and will go to any length to keep for being disassociated from UM.

[MedDawg]

In downtown New Albany.

Is it possible that the goal of the lawsuit is to JUST get depositions from LL? Do the depositions become part of a legal record if Rebel Rags drops the suit after the depos?

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Make no mistake...this was an OM lawsuit. Rebel Rags is probably having record sales since this started. OM was wanting to get depositions before they went to the COI in hopes that they could trip up Leo and then have something to throw at the committee. Now that that has passed, I'm sure their reasoning is to try and do the same with Leo, but use it when they appeal the sanctions and to let that be their battle cry after the sanctions come down.....WE PROVED LEO LIED AND THAT GOT US PUT ON PROBATION, totally ignoring the rest of their sanctions.

The problem they have is that they aren't going to trip up Leo, and all of this will quietly go away. Shitbirds. Roll Tide

[basedog]

Wish I had known, would have attended.

Yep, you could have taken a knee while there!

[Doggie_Style]

Yancey now tweeting that "Discovery was granted" and Motion to dismiss denied.......says it's about to get real....what an asshole!

[PassInterference]

Indeed it is....it is also likely to drag out for years. RR is in a fight for their very existence and will go to any length to keep for being disassociated from UM.

Apparel sales are through a 3rd party distributor from which Rebel Rags cannot be disassociated. Disassociation would affect Rebel Rags in no way.

[MadDawg]

Yancey now tweeting that "Discovery was granted" and Motion to dismiss denied.......says it's about to get real....what an asshole!

Judge did say he would revisit the motion to dismiss after hearing discovery.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Judge did say he would revisit the motion to dismiss after hearing discovery.

Is this judge the ole miss alumnus?

[Dawgs87]

It's so wild for me to think about a clothing store suing two college football players for a conspiracy to intentionally harm the business. It sounds ludicrous, and really highlights the lengths they are willing to go to. Not to mention the fact that they only told NCAA investigators. They make it sound like the players were out in front of the store protesting and scaring business off. The whole thing is absurd and they are absurd to think it will save them. But, hey, I guess the have to pin their hopes to something. Just gives Yanax and the rest of the cultish, kkklanish media an opportunity to keep hope alive, and hold on to those subscriptions for a few more months. That's it.

[Jack Lambert]

It's so wild for me to think about a clothing store suing two college football players for a conspiracy to intentionally harm the business. It sounds ludicrous, and really highlights the lengths they are willing to go to. Not to mention the fact that they only told NCAA investigators. They make it sound like the players were out in front of the store protesting and scaring business off. The whole thing is absurd and they are absurd to think it will save them. But, hey, I guess the have to pin their hopes to something. Just gives Yanax and the rest of the cultish, kkklanish media an opportunity to keep hope alive, and hold on to those subscriptions for a few more months. That's it.

They alternative motives.

[Tripp McNeely]

Judge did say he would revisit the motion to dismiss after hearing discovery.

I really don't think they have any idea how bad discovery could get for them!! Subpoenas in this situation could make the Nutt lawsuit seem like the least of their worries.

[Dawgs87]

Per Ben Garrett Discovery has not yet been granted. Looks like Yanax jumped the gun.

[parabrave]

Is it possible that the goal of the lawsuit is to JUST get depositions from LL? Do the depositions become part of a legal record if Rebel Rags drops the suit after the depos?

About 99.9% possibility.

[Commercecomet24]

I really don't think they have any idea how bad discovery could get for them!! Subpoenas in this situation could make the Nutt lawsuit seem like the least of their worries.

This!!!

[Spiderman]

Is it possible that the goal of the lawsuit is to JUST get depositions from LL? Do the depositions become part of a legal record if Rebel Rags drops the suit after the depos?

Of course, it's why OM had them file it

[RocketDawg]

It's so wild for me to think about a clothing store suing two college football players for a conspiracy to intentionally harm the business. It sounds ludicrous, and really highlights the lengths they are willing to go to. Not to mention the fact that they only told NCAA investigators. They make it sound like the players were out in front of the store protesting and scaring business off. The whole thing is absurd and they are absurd to think it will save them. But, hey, I guess the have to pin their hopes to something. Just gives Yanax and the rest of the cultish, kkklanish media an opportunity to keep hope alive, and hold on to those subscriptions for a few more months. That's it.

Not a lawyer, but I think that's a very key point. Had they been yelling to the heaveans that they got free stuff on a recruiting visit, it would be a different matter (but if it's true, they could still do that). OM was the one who released the information and the names, and it took them forever to release the content of the violation.

[confucius say]

I don't expect the motions to dismiss to be granted prior to discovery. That is rare and only done when the complaint does not state a claim.

I am much more interested in the change of venue. From what little I have seen, I expect that to be granted and the motion to sever the defendants' cases to be granted.

[Mimi's Babies]

About 99.9% possibility.

Attorneys know how to drag this crap out for years...

[Mimi's Babies]

Apparel sales are through a 3rd party distributor from which Rebel Rags cannot be disassociated. Disassociation would affect Rebel Rags in no way.

Please explain this statement. You can PM if you would like. Thanks

[Tbonewannabe]

Please explain this statement. You can PM if you would like. Thanks

Disassociation as far as business goes would probably only eliminate their ability to market at UM events or get current UM coaches to any type of marketing or event they would have. It isn't like UM could prevent RR from selling UM merchandise.

[shannondawg]

If anything I bet their business has increased, and would have decreased if this was not made public.

For the simple reason that reb fans would have slacked off buying due to investigations, but have increased buying in support of them.

[Mobile Bay]

Please explain this statement. You can PM if you would like. Thanks

Basically Rebel Rags doesn't buy merchandise from the school. They buy from apparel companies and licensed wholesalers like Collegiate. The school doesn't own or control those companies. So even if RR is disassociated, there isn't anything the school can do to stop their business.

In fact, if the school does dissociate them, then RR can give out even more free stuff to even more croots, and the school can claim they have done all they can to stop him. Which we all know would be BS

[Spiderman]

Not a lawyer, but I think that's a very key point. Had they been yelling to the heaveans that they got free stuff on a recruiting visit, it would be a different matter (but if it's true, they could still do that). OM was the one who released the information and the names, and it took them forever to release the content of the violation.

Good point. They sued Kobe and Leo and their names hadn't been released. Also, they didn't volunteer tis stuff. The NCAA asked them about it.

[Spiderman]

If anything I bet their business has increased, and would have decreased if this was not made public.

For the simple reason that reb fans would have slacked off buying due to investigations, but have increased buying in support of them.

Yep, claims it hurt their business. Unless they are false reporting to the IRS, I guarantee their sales have not gone down

[Ezsoil]

Is this judge the ole miss alumnus?


He is an MSU undergrad

[Bucky Dog]

Good point. They sued Kobe and Leo and their names hadn't been released. Also, they didn't volunteer tis stuff. The NCAA asked them about it.

This right here is why the case will never go forward. These two anonymous SA were contacted by the NCAA to give honest testimony about the case that they had uncovered through their investigations. LL and KJ did not spread lies to the masses and such and the only way this was made public is through release, non compliantly, by OM to a third party and to the public of their names and the accusations.

[RocketDawg]

This right here is why the case will never go forward. These two anonymous SA were contacted by the NCAA to give honest testimony about the case that they had uncovered through their investigations. LL and KJ did not spread lies to the masses and such and the only way this was made public is through release, non compliantly, by OM to a third party and to the public of their names and the accusations.

As far as I know, their names still haven't and never will be officially released.

[Political Hack]

They are playing with fire in my opinion. Nothing will come out of this that the NCAA will look fondly on, and State's already got a pass on the players in question. That's been established, yet they're still going forward with it? So why? It's not to win money from a couple of college students. The only reason they could possibly be pursuing this case, at this juncture, is if they're seeking to embarrass the NCAA for letting kids skate. They're trying to turn this into a news story, but the only ones who really care anymore are their own regular mouth pieces.

[Political Hack]

Oh, and they're hanging onto every thread they can find at this point. The rope is shredded and about to pop. And it's going to be a long fall.

[Commercecomet24]

They are playing with fire in my opinion. Nothing will come out of this that the NCAA will look fondly on, and State's already got a pass on the players in question. That's been established, yet they're still going forward with it? So why? It's not to win money from a couple of college students. The only reason they could possibly be pursuing this case, at this juncture, is if they're seeking to embarrass the NCAA for letting kids skate. They're trying to turn this into a news story, but the only ones who really care anymore are their own regular mouth pieces.

Right on!

[Pollodawg]

They are playing with fire in my opinion. Nothing will come out of this that the NCAA will look fondly on, and State's already got a pass on the players in question. That's been established, yet they're still going forward with it? So why? It's not to win money from a couple of college students. The only reason they could possibly be pursuing this case, at this juncture, is if they're seeking to embarrass the NCAA for letting kids skate. They're trying to turn this into a news story, but the only ones who really care anymore are their own regular mouth pieces.

Nailed it.

[Pollodawg]

This right here is why the case will never go forward. These two anonymous SA were contacted by the NCAA to give honest testimony about the case that they had uncovered through their investigations. LL and KJ did not spread lies to the masses and such and the only way this was made public is through release, non compliantly, by OM to a third party and to the public of their names and the accusations.


That. And RR is going to have a really hard time proving damages, which is the basis for this case.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Waste of time.

[Dawgpile]

The optics of this situation are bad even if OM got what they want, whatever that is. Discovery works both ways.

[Bodaski]

They claim they can connect all the dots of collusion they claim they have against Mullen, Leo and Kobe.

[Mimi's Babies]

Yep, claims it hurt their business. Unless they are false reporting to the IRS, I guarantee their sales have not gone down

Might be interesting to note that a certain 'homer' purchased a PLANE, in late 2016. Must not be doing to bad.

Has anyone ever looked at a silver looking tag on the collegiate clothing? There are royalties paid to the schools by the supplier. The supplier could be told that this business is no longer an approved dealer/store to carry said merchandise. I assure you that there is a paper trail for this business. All public information. Haha

[Bubb Rubb]

They won't be able to redact phone records this time. Maybe they should be thought this thing through.

[Mimi's Babies]

They won't be able to redact phone records this time. Maybe they should be thought this thing through.

I am not so sure they want some of these phone records.

[Liverpooldawg]

They are playing with fire in my opinion. Nothing will come out of this that the NCAA will look fondly on, and State's already got a pass on the players in question. That's been established, yet they're still going forward with it? So why? It's not to win money from a couple of college students. The only reason they could possibly be pursuing this case, at this juncture, is if they're seeking to embarrass the NCAA for letting kids skate. They're trying to turn this into a news story, but the only ones who really care anymore are their own regular mouth pieces.

Two scenarios: 1)They still think that by discrediting part of the case they can sink it all. It's a desperate ploy that's not going to work. I think it's going to make things much worse for them actually. 2) They already know it's going to be really, really bad so they aren't really worried about making it worse (in all honesty to me this is the only way you can explain how they have handled this that makes sense). The objective is to turn MSU into the villain and rile up their fans and donors enough so that they won't stop coming to games and stop throwing money at them during what's coming. It could be a combination of both of those.

[Bubb Rubb]

I am not so sure they want some of these phone records.

The defendants will want it, and they will be entitled to it, especially since the NCAA has gone out of its way to prove that coaches were in contact with Terry Warren during big recruiting weekends.

That's what I was referring to. Leo and Kobe's attorneys are going to subpoena phone records, and those won't be redacted. They will go after text messages too if they can get them.

[Coursesuper]

Two scenarios: 1)They still think that by discrediting part of the case they can sink it all. It's a desperate ploy that's not going to work. I think it's going to make things much worse for them actually. 2) They already know it's going to be really, really bad so they aren't really worried about making it worse (in all honesty to me this is the only way you can explain how they have handled this that makes sense). The objective is to turn MSU into the villain and rile up their fans and donors enough so that they won't stop coming to games and stop throwing money at them during what's coming. It could be a combination of both of those.

I think there is a third option that ties to your second scenario; that is that they plan to go scorched earth and try to burn us to the ground with them. You can bet for sure these wackjobs are going to come at us.

[Liverpooldawg]

I think there is a third option that ties to your second scenario; that is that they plan to go scorched earth and try to burn us to the ground with them. You can bet for sure these wackjobs are going to come at us.

I think that is a given.

[Acid mouth]

I'd get TW's cellphone logs for the last several years in discovery. Very likely chance that he received some calls from a coach's burner phone. Then I'd give them to SR and Matlock Mars. I'd also have multiple forensic accountants go thru all RRs financial statements for the last several years. While nothing good will come out of this lawsuit for Mississippi, I'd make damn sure to get every piece of info from RR that I could. Any accounting irregularities would be mailed promptly to the IRS or NCAA depending on the nature of the discrepancy. Does anyone know if the university still supports this assclown's lawsuit?

[Mimi's Babies]

The defendants will want it, and they will be entitled to it, especially since the NCAA has gone out of its way to prove that coaches were in contact with Terry Warren during big recruiting weekends.

That's what I was referring to. Leo and Kobe's attorneys are going to subpoena phone records, and those won't be redacted. They will go after text messages too if they can get them.

I hope Mr. Mars is already ahead of this game for sure..... Waiting on more to hit the fan... can we say GTHOM....

[Mimi's Babies]

I'd get TW's cellphone logs for the last several years in discovery. Very likely chance that he received some calls from a coach's burner phone. Then I'd give them to SR and Matlock Mars. I'd also have multiple forensic accountants go thru all RRs financial statements for the last several years. While nothing good will come out of this lawsuit for Mississippi, I'd make damn sure to get every piece of info from RR that I could. Any accounting irregularities would be mailed promptly to the IRS or NCAA depending on the nature of the discrepancy. Does anyone know if the university still supports this assclown's lawsuit?


Da Plane' Da Plane'.....:cool:

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If the motion to sever & change of venue motion gets approved don't be surprised if he drops the suit.

[KentuckyDawg13]

Sounds like an IRS audit is needed.

[Mimi's Babies]

If the motion to sever & change of venue motion gets approved don't be surprised if he drops the suit.

Does he REALLY want to open the can of worms since the FBI mess dropped this morning.... Just waiting for the FBI to show up at a certain school.

[TrapGame]

Just with discovery alone they're screwed.

[Political Hack]

I think there is a third option that ties to your second scenario; that is that they plan to go scorched earth and try to burn us to the ground with them. You can bet for sure these wackjobs are going to come at us.

I'd bet a year of my salary they've got private investigators on the prowl right.

[confucius say]

If the motion to sever & change of venue motion gets approved don't be surprised if he drops the suit.

If the motion to sever is granted then venue almost assuredly will be changed. The only thing holding this in Lafayette county is the fact Miller made his statements in Lafayette county. It is undisputed Lewis and jones made theirs in oktibbeha county. This argument about the effects being felt in Lafayette county is hogwash and not legally sound.

[Mimi's Babies]

I'd bet a year of my salary they've got private investigators on the prowl right.

Hack they might better watch what they are up too.... They don't know who is watching them....

[Coursesuper]

I'd bet a year of my salary they've got private investigators on the prowl right.

I'd say your right on target. This will get more and more ugly the further down they go. I hope that we are prepared to ride out this onslaught of crazy that is coming at us.

[Mimi's Babies]

The defendants will want it, and they will be entitled to it, especially since the NCAA has gone out of its way to prove that coaches were in contact with Terry Warren during big recruiting weekends.

That's what I was referring to. Leo and Kobe's attorneys are going to subpoena phone records, and those won't be redacted. They will go after text messages too if they can get them.

Maybe they will locate ALL OF THE BURNER PHONES and calls to recruits and prostitutes.