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Dawg61
09-24-2017, 07:04 AM
Bruh it is year 9 and you have been redshirting dudes for 8 straight years. You have 100% control over wether you want to be a young football team or not at this point. Don't ever say that shit again Dan Mullen. That is never an excuse you can ever use again. How about "I have a gaping va6ina and it takes over my play calling abilities during big games". That is what you should say cause that is the cold hard truth. You lose us the football games vs the big boys. Not your team. When you Dan Mullen can accept that reality than MSU can start winning these games. Can't happen won't happen till you face your own demons Mullen. You go ultra conservative in big games and it's why you lose them every time. Good news though is you're close if you can just overcome your tendency to pucker up and choke with your play calling. Georgia was really fired up to play us. That crowd and all the shit talking they were doing all last week you woulda thought they were playing Alabama. That's how excited UGA fans were to play MSU on ESPN under the lights. That is amazing that Dan has accomplished that. Now to only learn to not let your gaper take over your brain during these games.

Drugdog
09-24-2017, 07:21 AM
Bruh it is year 9 and you have been redshirting dudes for 8 straight years. You have 100% control over wether you want to be a young football team or not at this point. Don't ever say that shit again Dan Mullen. That is never an excuse you can ever use again. How about "I have a gaping va6ina and it takes over my play calling abilities during big games". That is what you should say cause that is the cold hard truth. You lose us the football games vs the big boys. Not your team. When you Dan Mullen can accept that reality than MSU can start winning these games. Can't happen won't happen till you face your own demons Mullen. You go ultra conservative in big games and it's why you lose them every time. Good news though is you're close if you can just overcome your tendency to pucker up and choke with your play calling. Georgia was really fired up to play us. That crowd and all the shit talking they were doing all last week you woulda thought they were playing Alabama. That's how excited UGA fans were to play MSU on ESPN under the lights. That is amazing that Dan has accomplished that. Now to only learn to not let your gaper take over your brain during these games.

Speaking the truth. Great post.

ShotgunDawg
09-24-2017, 07:28 AM
Bruh it is year 9 and you have been redshirting dudes for 8 straight years. You have 100% control over wether you want to be a young football team or not at this point. Don't ever say that shit again Dan Mullen. That is never an excuse you can ever use again. How about "I have a gaping va6ina and it takes over my play calling abilities during big games". That is what you should say cause that is the cold hard truth. You lose us the football games vs the big boys. Not your team. When you Dan Mullen can accept that reality than MSU can start winning these games. Can't happen won't happen till you face your own demons Mullen. You go ultra conservative in big games and it's why you lose them every time. Good news though is you're close if you can just overcome your tendency to pucker up and choke with your play calling. Georgia was really fired up to play us. That crowd and all the shit talking they were doing all last week you woulda thought they were playing Alabama. That's how excited UGA fans were to play MSU on ESPN under the lights. That is amazing that Dan has accomplished that. Now to only learn to not let your gaper take over your brain during these games.

Great post. All of this.

Instead of young team, he should've said "we are a short team. We have midget WRs that can't make plays."

That would've been way more accurate

msstate7
09-24-2017, 07:36 AM
We have 8 more regular season games this year... he has to help this team put this slaughter behind them. By using the "we're young" excuse, hopefully he can get guys to work harder. Would it be better for our team's remaining year to say we suck or we aren't very talented? I have no idea why fanbases listen to coach speak and get mad about it

msstate7
09-24-2017, 07:40 AM
Great post. All of this.

Instead of young team, he should've said "we are a short team. We have midget WRs that can't make plays."

That would've been way more accurate

Jeez... those midgets caught TDs vs DBs last week that were ranked extremely high in recruiting.

You guys melting so EXTREMELY hard is your own fault. You guys got carried away and thought we were gonna waltz into Athens and dominate when we've never played well there

CadaverDawg
09-24-2017, 07:49 AM
Spot on, 61. I'd rather lose 60-3 while actually trying to win the game by being aggressive on Offense, than to lose 31-3 and feel like we didn't even try. That shit was embarrassing last night, and if Mullen has any pride he will make some damn changes in how he approaches and coaches these type of games.

And I keep seeing the "midget WR" excuse from some in this thread. That's true to an extent, but you've got a 6'5 300 lb TE that even down 30 points we didn't try to throw a jump ball to. So based on what I've seen, we could have Julio & AJ out there but if Dan doesn't learn to use it it doesn't matter. 61 said it best, Dan clams up and loses all ability to coach in big games. That was some scared, sissy, play calling....and Kirby showed what men do against a sissy on the football field. Piss poor, Dan. Adjust dammit

ShotgunDawg
09-24-2017, 08:23 AM
Jeez... those midgets caught TDs vs DBs last week that were ranked extremely high in recruiting.

You guys melting so EXTREMELY hard is your own fault. You guys got carried away and thought we were gonna waltz into Athens and dominate when we've never played well there

They caught TDs in a game where we established the run. Completely different deal.

Liverpooldawg
09-24-2017, 08:40 AM
Jeez... those midgets caught TDs vs DBs last week that were ranked extremely high in recruiting.

You guys melting so EXTREMELY hard is your own fault. You guys got carried away and thought we were gonna waltz into Athens and dominate when we've never played well there
Exactly.

dawgday166
09-24-2017, 09:00 AM
Bruh it is year 9 and you have been redshirting dudes for 8 straight years. You have 100% control over wether you want to be a young football team or not at this point. Don't ever say that shit again Dan Mullen. That is never an excuse you can ever use again. How about "I have a gaping va6ina and it takes over my play calling abilities during big games". That is what you should say cause that is the cold hard truth. You lose us the football games vs the big boys. Not your team. When you Dan Mullen can accept that reality than MSU can start winning these games. Can't happen won't happen till you face your own demons Mullen. You go ultra conservative in big games and it's why you lose them every time. Good news though is you're close if you can just overcome your tendency to pucker up and choke with your play calling. Georgia was really fired up to play us. That crowd and all the shit talking they were doing all last week you woulda thought they were playing Alabama. That's how excited UGA fans were to play MSU on ESPN under the lights. That is amazing that Dan has accomplished that. Now to only learn to not let your gaper take over your brain during these games.

He's said it the last 2 years too ... when we were loaded with Srs and Jrs. This year he's actually correct, but we have also just played 2 other young football teams too. At least Ga is on offense.

Dan doesn't handle being the favorite well. Good new is it's all Collin's & Sirmon's fault tho ******

Drugdog
09-24-2017, 10:29 AM
Spot on, 61. I'd rather lose 60-3 while actually trying to win the game by being aggressive on Offense, than to lose 31-3 and feel like we didn't even try. That shit was embarrassing last night, and if Mullen has any pride he will make some damn changes in how he approaches and coaches these type of games.

And I keep seeing the "midget WR" excuse from some in this thread. That's true to an extent, but you've got a 6'5 300 lb TE that even down 30 points we didn't try to throw a jump ball to. So based on what I've seen, we could have Julio & AJ out there but if Dan doesn't learn to use it it doesn't matter. 61 said it best, Dan clams up and loses all ability to coach in big games. That was some scared, sissy, play calling....and Kirby showed what men do against a sissy on the football field. Piss poor, Dan. Adjust dammit

He cant and will not adjust. We have 8 years of history to back it up. Just remember these type of beat downs when the press gives us no respect. We have not earned it.

maroonmania
09-24-2017, 10:39 AM
Bruh it is year 9 and you have been redshirting dudes for 8 straight years. You have 100% control over wether you want to be a young football team or not at this point. Don't ever say that shit again Dan Mullen. That is never an excuse you can ever use again. How about "I have a gaping va6ina and it takes over my play calling abilities during big games". That is what you should say cause that is the cold hard truth. You lose us the football games vs the big boys. Not your team. When you Dan Mullen can accept that reality than MSU can start winning these games. Can't happen won't happen till you face your own demons Mullen. You go ultra conservative in big games and it's why you lose them every time. Good news though is you're close if you can just overcome your tendency to pucker up and choke with your play calling. Georgia was really fired up to play us. That crowd and all the shit talking they were doing all last week you woulda thought they were playing Alabama. That's how excited UGA fans were to play MSU on ESPN under the lights. That is amazing that Dan has accomplished that. Now to only learn to not let your gaper take over your brain during these games.

Yes, we were young last year, we are young this year, and after 2018 we will be young again in 2019. Apparently we only aren't young about 1 out of every 5 years.

Kyper
09-24-2017, 10:45 AM
Are we young?

Offense:

QB- 4th year player
TB- 4th year player
WR- 5th year player
WR- 3rd year player
TE- 4th year player
LT- 5th year player
C- 4th year player
LG- 3rd year
RG- 4th year player

Secondary? 5th year player, 4th year player, 4th year player, 3rd year player
ILB's? 5th year player and 3rd year player
OLB's? 4th year player and a 3rd year player
DL??? only plenty of experience there also

We are not young at all. It's a complete lie

defiantdog
09-24-2017, 11:00 AM
Are we young?

Offense:

QB- 4th year player
TB- 4th year player
WR- 5th year player
WR- 3rd year player
TE- 4th year player
LT- 5th year player
C- 4th year player
LG- 3rd year
RG- 4th year player

Secondary? 5th year player, 4th year player, 4th year player, 3rd year player
ILB's? 5th year player and 3rd year player
OLB's? 4th year player and a 3rd year player
DL??? only plenty of experience there also

We are not young at all. It's a complete lie

I think he meant to say exposed instead of young. We are not a good football team if you shut down our run game. Fitz isn't a good passer, and may never become one. But we need to figure a way to not be one dimentional.

Hypnodawg
09-24-2017, 11:00 AM
No doubt Dan has a habit of shitting the bed in big games. Georgia knew exactly where the ball was going on just about every offensive play in the first half. You can see all their guys moving to it just before the ball is snapped. Georgia knew we would be looking to stop the run and popped us right out of the gate. We were out coached big time in that game.

BuckyIsAB****
09-24-2017, 12:07 PM
When you think about it, all our JUCO guys in terms of SEC football are young players.

OL: Resse is young other than him its no excuse
QB: No excuse
RB: No excuse except Kylin Hill
WR: Jesse Jackson, Reggie Todd, Jordan Thomas, all pretty young players in terms of SEC snaps
TE: No excuse
DL: Fletcher Adams (he has been great), Braxton Hoyett, Montez Sweat (has been great), Grant Harris, several others all young in terms of SEC snaps.
ILB: Dez Harris (injuries), Erroll Thompson, Willie Gay all young in terms of SEC snaps
OLB: No excuse
CB: No excuse
S: Abrams is young but has been good

JoseBrown
09-24-2017, 12:19 PM
Spot on, 61. I'd rather lose 60-3 while actually trying to win the game by being aggressive on Offense, than to lose 31-3 and feel like we didn't even try. That shit was embarrassing last night, and if Mullen has any pride he will make some damn changes in how he approaches and coaches these type of games.

And I keep seeing the "midget WR" excuse from some in this thread. That's true to an extent, but you've got a 6'5 300 lb TE that even down 30 points we didn't try to throw a jump ball to. So based on what I've seen, we could have Julio & AJ out there but if Dan doesn't learn to use it it doesn't matter. 61 said it best, Dan clams up and loses all ability to coach in big games. That was some scared, sissy, play calling....and Kirby showed what men do against a sissy on the football field. Piss poor, Dan. Adjust dammit

I like this post, it just shows we've got to figure a way to get Todd, Mitchell, Thomas or maybe even Couch involved in our passing game. They've got to have the ability to get one or two good routes down and catch a ball. If not, get rid of the ones that can't. Wish we had Guidry and Heath right now!

BuckyIsAB****
09-24-2017, 12:55 PM
I like this post, it just shows we've got to figure a way to get Todd, Mitchell, Thomas or maybe even Couch involved in our passing game. They've got to have the ability to get one or two good routes down and catch a ball. If not, get rid of the ones that can't. Wish we had Guidry and Heath right now!

Couch had to have done something to get in the doghouse. He played more last year than he has this year. Do agree, we have big bodies, need them to play big.

Todd4State
09-24-2017, 01:36 PM
Couch had to have done something to get in the doghouse. He played more last year than he has this year. Do agree, we have big bodies, need them to play big.

It's probably something coach speak vague like he doesn't watch enough film or something like that. I thought our best scoring chance was when Todd was running the crossing route in the end zone and it actually drew a flag for PI initially until the officials decided to wave it off. And Jordan Thomas was wide open in the end zone and we checked it down to someone else. That's another ball of wax.

Todd4State
09-24-2017, 01:36 PM
Bruh it is year 9 and you have been redshirting dudes for 8 straight years. You have 100% control over wether you want to be a young football team or not at this point. Don't ever say that shit again Dan Mullen. That is never an excuse you can ever use again. How about "I have a gaping va6ina and it takes over my play calling abilities during big games". That is what you should say cause that is the cold hard truth. You lose us the football games vs the big boys. Not your team. When you Dan Mullen can accept that reality than MSU can start winning these games. Can't happen won't happen till you face your own demons Mullen. You go ultra conservative in big games and it's why you lose them every time. Good news though is you're close if you can just overcome your tendency to pucker up and choke with your play calling. Georgia was really fired up to play us. That crowd and all the shit talking they were doing all last week you woulda thought they were playing Alabama. That's how excited UGA fans were to play MSU on ESPN under the lights. That is amazing that Dan has accomplished that. Now to only learn to not let your gaper take over your brain during these games.

Good post. I don't always agree with you- but I do this time.

NCDawg
09-24-2017, 01:42 PM
When interviewed at the half about the flea flicker pass for the TD on the first play, Mullen said we have young players and that was the reason we got lost in coverage.

Dawg61
09-24-2017, 04:55 PM
When interviewed at the half about the flea flicker pass for the TD on the first play, Mullen said we have young players and that was the reason we got lost in coverage.

Georgia just punked us on that play. It was the equivalent of going onside kick in the Super Bowl like the Saints did. Nobody was expecting it and they probably practiced it for awhile. Smart & UGA have history with Grantham. Nothing you can do about that play. They shoulda asked Mullen why he tried to quick snap on 3rd and goal inside the ten yard line instead of attempting a legit play for a TD. Settling for 3 there and then giving up a TD to start the 2nd half ended our chances completely. If we win out though we will win the West and be in the SECCG vs UGA with a chance to be in the playoff. We can do that if Mullen decides to be ultra aggressive in big games from here out. We have enough talent on this team. I truly believe that. It's on Mullen to rise to his best play calling self. We haven't seen that from him once. From the guy that says he wants his QBs to be perfect and says Dak is far from that still. Well Dan is way farther from perfect with his play calling and mindset during big games than Dak is during his. Put your money where your mouth is Dan. You expect perfection well lead by example and be perfect yourself first.

dawgday166
09-24-2017, 05:05 PM
Georgia just punked us on that play. It was the equivalent of going onside kick in the Super Bowl like the Saints did. Nobody was expecting it and they probably practiced it for awhile. Smart & UGA have history with Grantham. Nothing you can do about that play. They shoulda asked Mullen why he tried to quick snap on 3rd and goal inside the ten yard line instead of attempting a legit play for a TD. Settling for 3 there and then giving up a TD to start the 2nd half ended our chances completely. If we win out though we will win the West and be in the SECCG vs UGA with a chance to be in the playoff. We can do that if Mullen decides to be ultra aggressive in big games from here out. We have enough talent on this team. I truly believe that. It's on Mullen to rise to his best play calling self. We haven't seen that from him once. From the guy that says he wants his QBs to be perfect and says Dak is far from that still. Well Dan is way farther from perfect with his play calling and mindset during big games than Dak is during his. Put your money where your mouth is Dan. You expect perfection well lead by example and be perfect yourself first.

Dan ain't beating Saban.

Hypnodawg
09-24-2017, 06:31 PM
Dan ain't beating Saban.

Unfortunately, that's a fact. 9 years same stuff different day.

CadaverDawg
09-24-2017, 07:33 PM
Georgia just punked us on that play. It was the equivalent of going onside kick in the Super Bowl like the Saints did. Nobody was expecting it and they probably practiced it for awhile. Smart & UGA have history with Grantham. Nothing you can do about that play. They shoulda asked Mullen why he tried to quick snap on 3rd and goal inside the ten yard line instead of attempting a legit play for a TD. Settling for 3 there and then giving up a TD to start the 2nd half ended our chances completely. If we win out though we will win the West and be in the SECCG vs UGA with a chance to be in the playoff. We can do that if Mullen decides to be ultra aggressive in big games from here out. We have enough talent on this team. I truly believe that. It's on Mullen to rise to his best play calling self. We haven't seen that from him once. From the guy that says he wants his QBs to be perfect and says Dak is far from that still. Well Dan is way farther from perfect with his play calling and mindset during big games than Dak is during his. Put your money where your mouth is Dan. You expect perfection well lead by example and be perfect yourself first.

Good post, but no chance we beat Bama. At this point, I honestly think you could give Saban USM's team the Monday before we play them, and he'd beat Mullen's ass with the Buzzard players

Todd4State
09-24-2017, 07:43 PM
Georgia just punked us on that play. It was the equivalent of going onside kick in the Super Bowl like the Saints did. Nobody was expecting it and they probably practiced it for awhile. Smart & UGA have history with Grantham. Nothing you can do about that play. They shoulda asked Mullen why he tried to quick snap on 3rd and goal inside the ten yard line instead of attempting a legit play for a TD. Settling for 3 there and then giving up a TD to start the 2nd half ended our chances completely. If we win out though we will win the West and be in the SECCG vs UGA with a chance to be in the playoff. We can do that if Mullen decides to be ultra aggressive in big games from here out. We have enough talent on this team. I truly believe that. It's on Mullen to rise to his best play calling self. We haven't seen that from him once. From the guy that says he wants his QBs to be perfect and says Dak is far from that still. Well Dan is way farther from perfect with his play calling and mindset during big games than Dak is during his. Put your money where your mouth is Dan. You expect perfection well lead by example and be perfect yourself first.

Excellent post again. Who stole your password?

Dawg61
09-24-2017, 10:26 PM
Good post, but no chance we beat Bama. At this point, I honestly think you could give Saban USM's team the Monday before we play them, and he'd beat Mullen's ass with the Buzzard players

Shit we could be beating USM 14-0 after the 1st quarter and you could sub in Saban as their coach without him knowing a single player's name and he'd win the game 38-28 with a kneel down.

DownwardDawg
09-24-2017, 10:44 PM
Dan ain't beating Saban.

Ever

MarketingBully
09-25-2017, 04:09 AM
Actually a lot of our offensive problems were caused by a still developing Nick Fitzgerald. He played absolutely poorly on Saturday and made very bad decisions/reads. As good as he was against LSU, he was equally bad at Georgia. Dan?s offense revolves around the decision making of the QB. Did you know that our OL didn?t give up a single sack nor did they give up a hurry. The best part about that game is it is over and it gave Fitz more experience against that defense. I think Nick will continue to improve and get better in the passing game. If you notice when KT was in the game, we moved the ball really well. UGA still had their first stringers in against KT as they didn?t want to give up the TD. Mullen hadn?t changed his playcalling. KT was making the right reads. In order to have a chance on Saturday, we needed Fitz to give us his A game. Instead, he gave us his D game. That won?t win many road games if any. We need Fitz to give us his A game this weekend to have a chance at Auburn. I think he will bring it this weekend. I just thought he put too much pressure on himself and made the Georgia game too big.

Leeshouldveflanked
09-25-2017, 05:45 AM
If Dan swapped rosters in July with BAMA, Saban would still kick our @ss. That's how big of a difference it is between the guys in the headsets and Saban doesn't even wear one.

Todd4State
09-25-2017, 07:45 AM
Actually a lot of our offensive problems were caused by a still developing Nick Fitzgerald. He played absolutely poorly on Saturday and made very bad decisions/reads. As good as he was against LSU, he was equally bad at Georgia. Dan?s offense revolves around the decision making of the QB. Did you know that our OL didn?t give up a single sack nor did they give up a hurry. The best part about that game is it is over and it gave Fitz more experience against that defense. I think Nick will continue to improve and get better in the passing game. If you notice when KT was in the game, we moved the ball really well. UGA still had their first stringers in against KT as they didn?t want to give up the TD. Mullen hadn?t changed his playcalling. KT was making the right reads. In order to have a chance on Saturday, we needed Fitz to give us his A game. Instead, he gave us his D game. That won?t win many road games if any. We need Fitz to give us his A game this weekend to have a chance at Auburn. I think he will bring it this weekend. I just thought he put too much pressure on himself and made the Georgia game too big.

Key has the advantage of coming from a similar offense instead of from a wishbone/Georgia Tech offense. I think he's going to be really good when his time comes.

BB30
09-25-2017, 08:50 AM
Go back and watch the LSU game and tell me how play calling was completely different.... Again for those of you melting, it is about our offense executing and they didn't against UGA. Where I do fault Dan is in the fact that we don't have a single true physical threat at WR that demands respect and we don't have a true deep threat or a QB that can get the ball out there consistently and loosen defenses up. Right now the only way we are hitting big plays in the passing game is off pa and that doesn't work when you aren't running the ball consistently.

I think we are going to see this with this team. Some games we will look terrific this year and execute and win and others we will be pretty bad. I do think we win 8 this year and as we have all talked about have a shot at a great season next year. Most everyone on the board said if we take 1 in this 3 game stretch that would be great and now yall are melting about how bad Dan is when just last week yall were starting Mullen leaving threads. It blows my mind on how yall can be so up and down from week to week.

TrapGame
09-25-2017, 09:14 AM
Go back and watch the LSU game and tell me how play calling was completely different.... Again for those of you melting, it is about our offense executing and they didn't against UGA. Where I do fault Dan is in the fact that we don't have a single true physical threat at WR that demands respect and we don't have a true deep threat or a QB that can get the ball out there consistently and loosen defenses up. Right now the only way we are hitting big plays in the passing game is off pa and that doesn't work when you aren't running the ball consistently.

I think we are going to see this with this team. Some games we will look terrific this year and execute and win and others we will be pretty bad. I do think we win 8 this year and as we have all talked about have a shot at a great season next year. Most everyone on the board said if we take 1 in this 3 game stretch that would be great and now yall are melting about how bad Dan is when just last week yall were starting Mullen leaving threads. It blows my mind on how yall can be so up and down from week to week.

<Slow Clap>

Rep given.

Anonymous
09-25-2017, 09:30 AM
Are we young?

Offense:

QB- 4th year player
TB- 4th year player
WR- 5th year player
WR- 3rd year player
TE- 4th year player
LT- 5th year player
C- 4th year player
LG- 3rd year
RG- 4th year player

Secondary? 5th year player, 4th year player, 4th year player, 3rd year player
ILB's? 5th year player and 3rd year player
OLB's? 4th year player and a 3rd year player
DL??? only plenty of experience there also

We are not young at all. It's a complete lie


We are young in the sense that we have few seniors and lose nothing after this season. Unfortunately we have the situation, that seems to keep occurring, where we are going to actually be better off when some of them are gone.

I get that you want to do right by the guys in your program, you want to reward the seniors and the work they've put in. And you don't want to throw away any opportunity of seeing the NFL that they could earn. But at some point, you have to face the hard fact that some guys aren't going to make that breakout season, everyone isn't a Preston Smith. We have to start playing the best players and stop riding seniority

- Tolando Cleveland is not good, he will not play in the NFL. He may be a great guy but it's time to cut your losses and play an underclass man.
- Brandon Holloway was not going to make it to the league. He was a great athlete and had a dynamic skill set, but that skill set didn't translate to the highest level of football. It was past time to plug in Aeris and play the better back.
- Shump was not going to make it as a RB. We did the worst possible thing we could do for his career. He should have been moved to strong safety or OLB as a sophomore.
- Gabe Myles is not going to make a magical leap and become a great WR. He has had stone hands for 4 years. I absolutely believe he made dramatic improvements in the offseason, unfortunately he waited far too long to get that desperation. We are effectively starting 3 slot WR's, it's time to replace one of these roles with a downfield threat.


This stuff happens every year. We have to learn how to objectively look at the situation and make the best decision for the team. I don't know if it's the emotional connection to the players or what but something is hampering the ability to make objective roster decisions. No other team can look at their starters on an annual basis and say "yeah we will be better when this guy graduates".

Dawg61
09-25-2017, 10:14 AM
Go back and watch the LSU game and tell me how play calling was completely different.... Again for those of you melting, it is about our offense executing and they didn't against UGA. Where I do fault Dan is in the fact that we don't have a single true physical threat at WR that demands respect and we don't have a true deep threat or a QB that can get the ball out there consistently and loosen defenses up. Right now the only way we are hitting big plays in the passing game is off pa and that doesn't work when you aren't running the ball consistently.

I think we are going to see this with this team. Some games we will look terrific this year and execute and win and others we will be pretty bad. I do think we win 8 this year and as we have all talked about have a shot at a great season next year. Most everyone on the board said if we take 1 in this 3 game stretch that would be great and now yall are melting about how bad Dan is when just last week yall were starting Mullen leaving threads. It blows my mind on how yall can be so up and down from week to week.

If every time we played a tough ranked opponent our defense was doing horrible we would blast the DC and you know this. Well every time we play a tough ranked opponent our offense has been doing horrible so it is time for our OC to get blasted. Dan's timid mindset and play calling against tough ranked teams sucks. Period. LSU has been exposed as not being a good team.

smootness
09-25-2017, 10:24 AM
The issue with this team is that Fitzgerald is still limited in what he can do in the passing game, and on top of that we have very small WRs.

Mullen seems to believe that we have to establish the run first before we can open up the offense, and if we don't establish the run we continue to be ultra-conservative. That is extremely frustrating, and I definitely think it hurts us in the biggest games. But ultimately our primary issue is that we just don't have a passing game that can beat you.

basedog
09-25-2017, 10:28 AM
If every time we played a tough ranked opponent our defense was doing horrible we would blast the DC and you know this. Well every time we play a tough ranked opponent our offense has been doing horrible so it is time for our OC to get blasted. Dan's timid mindset and play calling against tough ranked teams sucks. Period. LSU has been exposed as not being a good team.

Georgia is just a better team, if we played them 10 times I'm not sure we could win any. We are a better team than Lsu, we would beat them more than they could beat us. We have a decent team, we don't have a game changer on offense, you say Dan called a bad game, what the hell would you do to make a difference in your play calling? We ain't got Jerry Rice at wide receiver nor do we have Walter Payton at running back.

Funny, before the season predictions were anywhere from 5 to 8 wins as a majority on ED, we can still have a good season and all isn't all lost. We are in the middle of the pack and maybe top 5 team in the Sec, I say that is pretty good,

Todd4State
09-25-2017, 10:41 AM
We are young in the sense that we have few seniors and lose nothing after this season. Unfortunately we have the situation, that seems to keep occurring, where we are going to actually be better off when some of them are gone.

I get that you want to do right by the guys in your program, you want to reward the seniors and the work they've put in. And you don't want to throw away any opportunity of seeing the NFL that they could earn. But at some point, you have to face the hard fact that some guys aren't going to make that breakout season, everyone isn't a Preston Smith. We have to start playing the best players and stop riding seniority

- Tolando Cleveland is not good, he will not play in the NFL. He may be a great guy but it's time to cut your losses and play an underclass man.
- Brandon Holloway was not going to make it to the league. He was a great athlete and had a dynamic skill set, but that skill set didn't translate to the highest level of football. It was past time to plug in Aeris and play the better back.
- Shump was not going to make it as a RB. We did the worst possible thing we could do for his career. He should have been moved to strong safety or OLB as a sophomore.
- Gabe Myles is not going to make a magical leap and become a great WR. He has had stone hands for 4 years. I absolutely believe he made dramatic improvements in the offseason, unfortunately he waited far too long to get that desperation. We are effectively starting 3 slot WR's, it's time to replace one of these roles with a downfield threat.


This stuff happens every year. We have to learn how to objectively look at the situation and make the best decision for the team. I don't know if it's the emotional connection to the players or what but something is hampering the ability to make objective roster decisions. No other team can look at their starters on an annual basis and say "yeah we will be better when this guy graduates".

Add in Kivon Coman, Zach Jackson, Torrey Dale, and Rufus Warren.

dawgday166
09-25-2017, 10:41 AM
If every time we played a tough ranked opponent our defense was doing horrible we would blast the DC and you know this. Well every time we play a tough ranked opponent our offense has been doing horrible so it is time for our OC to get blasted. Dan's timid mindset and play calling against tough ranked teams sucks. Period. LSU has been exposed as not being a good team.

I agree with Todd. WHO ARE YOU? How did you steal Dawg61's password??

ETA: Very good post tho.

Dawg61
09-25-2017, 10:46 AM
Georgia is just a better team, if we played them 10 times I'm not sure we could win any. you say Dan called a bad game, what the hell would you do to make a difference in your play calling?

I wouldn't approach the game and call it exactly like I have in my previous 35 games vs ranked opponents when my record is 3-32 in those games for starters. Dan keeps trying to pound a square into a circle. He is extremely stubborn with everything even when it is proven not to work over and over and over again. Why can he not see this about himself? Oh cause he's ****ing stubborn about that too. Sure we were at a disadvantage at WR but we had a huge advantage at TE and we are very deep there so I'd probably try to throw to my TE's more than never. I'd also throw the ball over the middle of the field more than never. Ever heard of a quick slant Dan? Every throw we tried that was beyond ten yards was to a very tight window on the sidelines that has about a 5% chance of working. I'd stop throwing those type of passes when the UGA DBs were owning our WRs. Hugh Freeze and Samford can score TDs on Georgia. Dan Mullen can't.

basedog
09-25-2017, 11:07 AM
I wouldn't approach the game and call it exactly like I have in my previous 35 games vs ranked opponents when my record is 3-32 in those games for starters. Dan keeps trying to pound a square into a circle. He is extremely stubborn with everything even when it is proven not to work over and over and over again. Why can he not see this about himself? Oh cause he's ****ing stubborn about that too. Sure we were at a disadvantage at WR but we had a huge advantage at TE and we are very deep there so I'd probably try to throw to my TE's more than never. I'd also throw the ball over the middle of the field more than never. Ever heard of a quick slant Dan? Every throw we tried that was beyond ten yards was to a very tight window on the sidelines that has about a 5% chance of working. I'd stop throwing those type of passes when the UGA DBs were owning our WRs. Hugh Freeze and Samford can score TDs on Georgia. Dan Mullen can't.

You made me laugh, Hugh Freeze and Samford, oh we ain't worthy. Georgia's DB's were all over our TE's and wide outs, if one can't separate then one can't make plays.

Nothing would have made a difference Saturday about the outcome, you say we swap coaches and watch us score, Hugh Freeze approves your message.

So you aren't happy with Dan but yet you know the answers, funny indeed, after all we have moved up from the past and hopefully one day we will be like Bama.

I think Dan has done a very good job, not sure who we can get to put us in the upper echelon in the Sec, Who you got 61?

Dawg61
09-25-2017, 11:16 AM
I think Dan has done a very good job, not sure who we can get to put us in the upper echelon in the Sec, Who you got 61?

Dan Mullen as soon as he decides he wants to stop being stubborn about everything. Nobody can make him stop being stubborn only he can. I love Dan as our coach. I am very proud of what he has accomplished. I believe he can win a national championship here at MSU in the next five years. As long as he learns to stop being so damn stubborn. He shows glimpses of it at times like hiring Grantham and leaving him alone to run the defense so I know he has it in him to apply this same humbleness across the board. I believe Dan is the greatest QB developer in the country but QBs need development in aggressive down the field passing too not just checkdown Charlies. Dan is not aggressive enough in the passing game. Period. End of story.

basedog
09-25-2017, 11:31 AM
Dan Mullen as soon as he decides he wants to stop being stubborn about everything. Nobody can make him stop being stubborn only he can. I love Dan as our coach. I am very proud of what he has accomplished. I believe he can win a national championship here at MSU in the next five years. As long as he learns to stop being so damn stubborn. He shows glimpses of it at times like hiring Grantham and leaving him alone to run the defense so I know he has it in him to apply this same humbleness across the board. I believe Dan is the greatest QB developer in the country but QBs need development in aggressive down the field passing too not just checkdown Charlies. Dan is not aggressive enough in the passing game. Period. End of story.

Who can separate downfield? You praised (somewhat Hugh Freeze) but he was called Mr Bubble Screen, my point being like some others have stated, IF we can't run the ball then we will struggle with the passing game. You are basing your thoughts on the Georgia game and play calling, I'm pretty sure they will be in the top 10 this season and will probably play Bama in Atlanta for the championship game.

Things will be better, we just got our butts handed to us Saturday. Hopefully we can play better D and run the ball better against Auburn. After this weekend things will or should look better the rest of the way.