Rosebowl Say

[ShotgunDawg]

On Boneyard that Tom Mars has outsmarted Ole Miss once aaaa- gain on the burner phone issue.

Stay tuned

[BeardoMSU]

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[Commercecomet24]

For being the self proclaimed "Harvard of the south" they sure are a bunch of idiots!

[SailingDawg]

On Boneyard that Tom Mars has outsmarted Ole Miss once aaaa- gain on the burner phone issue.

Stay tuned

I thought burner phones was talked about all over bulldog boards last year?

[ShotgunDawg]

I thought burner phones was talked about all over bulldog boards last year?

More about how Mars scared OM into the affidavit signing and what that means going forward

[PassInterference]

Another Elitedawgs conspiracy.

[MadDawg]

More about how Mars scared OM into the affidavit signing and what that means going forward

Please elaborate

[BrunswickDawg]

More about how Mars scared OM into the affidavit signing and what that means going forward

If Mars has a sworn affidavit from either a player who had a burner, or a coach who used a burner, it is game over. I have a feeling that one of the coaches screwed up and called a kid's burner from an OM phone (probably Bucky), and that the burner in question had only calls from other burners or OM numbers. From the NCAA perspective, a sworn affidavit given voluntarily from either a former coach involved or a former recruit involved would be considered rock solid evidence. Especially if it is a former recruit who has no connection to the current NOAs - say one from the 2016 or 2017 signing classes.

[ShotgunDawg]

Please elaborate

He didn't go into a ton of detail but he had that tone of knowing something that he can't talk about.

Listen to the show. He talks about it towards the backend

[Reason2succeed]

OM is like the cheating husband that gets busted pants down with a hooker but continues to lie and say it wasn't me. At a certain point you have to just come clean. Continuing to lie and play games just digs a deeper hole and ensures that consequences will be even more devastating.

[Lord McBuckethead]

If Mars has a sworn affidavit from either a player who had a burner, or a coach who used a burner, it is game over. I have a feeling that one of the coaches screwed up and called a kid's burner from an OM phone (probably Bucky), and that the burner in question had only calls from other burners or OM numbers. From the NCAA perspective, a sworn affidavit given voluntarily from either a former coach involved or a former recruit involved would be considered rock solid evidence. Especially if it is a former recruit who has no connection to the current NOAs - say one from the 2016 or 2017 signing classes.

allegedly Bingo.

[Jack Lambert]

OM is like the cheating husband that gets busted pants down with a hooker but continues to lie and say it wasn't me. At a certain point you have to just come clean. Continuing to lie and play games just digs a deeper hole and ensures that consequences will be even more devastating.

Or a cheating wife caught with legs in the air with gigolo. Let's be fair with the analogy.

Side Note: Know what you do when you come home from work early and you catch your wife in bed with Chuck Norris? Go get a glass of water in case he gets thirsty.

[Doggie_Style]

allegedly Yahtzee.


FIFY

[sandwolf]

If Mars has a sworn affidavit from either a player who had a burner, or a coach who used a burner, it is game over. I have a feeling that one of the coaches screwed up and called a kid's burner from an OM phone (probably Bucky), and that the burner in question had only calls from other burners or OM numbers. From the NCAA perspective, a sworn affidavit given voluntarily from either a former coach involved or a former recruit involved would be considered rock solid evidence. Especially if it is a former recruit who has no connection to the current NOAs - say one from the 2016 or 2017 signing classes.

If they actually gave recruits burner phones, then they are incredibly stupid. They would only have needed burners for themselves.

[BrunswickDawg]

If they actually gave recruits burner phones, then they are incredibly stupid. They would only have needed burners for themselves.

It's a control thing with OM. They want to own the player by giving them things they can't pay for. They think filling that want/need makes them indispensable, and will make the player loyal. It's how they show "love". Need a phone, we got one. Need a car, we got one - you can even change your mind about what kind. Momma need a house, no problem. Need new furniture? We have store for that. Want OM swag for your crew? Call **** and she will hook you up, here is her card.

It's interesting that their version of love, respect, and loyalty revolves around material things and the perceptions that they bring.

[Spiderman]

If they actually gave recruits burner phones, then they are incredibly stupid. They would only have needed burners for themselves.

Yep, recruits don't need and don't have burners for recruiting

[Dolphus Raymond]

If they actually gave recruits burner phones, then they are incredibly stupid. They would only have needed burners for themselves.

This X 100. If the Ole Miss staff was stupid enough to give burner phones to recruits, the death penalty should be viewed as an act of mercy.

[thf24]

My bet is Kiffin signed the affidavit. Career-wise, he doesn't have much to lose and a lot more to gain at this point than say, Barney, by rolling.

[MSUDawg99]

The recruits didn't have the burner phones. The staff did. Bjork asked 20+ staff to sign a piece of paper if THEY DID NOT use a burner phone. Of course, they all signed it. But Mars thinks he knows otherwise, perhaps from a former staffer that said they did. We shall see what becomes of it.

[starkvegasdawg]

Yep, recruits don't need and don't have burners for recruiting

Didn't dear AJ have a burner confiscated in class? I thought I remembered that story floating about at one time.

[Token Bammer]

For being the self proclaimed "Harvard of the south" they sure are a bunch of idiots!

Awbum may fight Ole Miss for that title. They think they're something special.

It's uncanny the similarities.

[Commercecomet24]

Awbum may fight Ole Miss for that title. They think they're something special.

It's uncanny the similarities.

I've always thought the same thing myself. Those 2 have creepily, eery similarities. I can't stand either one. ole miss is #1 auburn #2 on the hate chart.

[Token Bammer]

I've always thought the same thing myself. Those 2 have creepily, eery similarities. I can't stand either one. ole miss is #1 auburn #2 on the hate chart.

And that's why I love this place.

[Bully13]

So what's Mars pursuing now? I thought it was a breach of contract case. What's this burner phone angle with mars?

[Jack Lambert]

So what's Mars pursuing now? I thought it was a breach of contract case. What's this burner phone angle with mars?

He asked for all the phone records. If there are burner phones he did not get it.

[dpip]

It seems like I saw a screen shot on twitter that was supposed to be from a player's phone and the name at the top said "Barney 2". Why would you list Barney 2 unless you had a Barney 1. That adds up to an official phone and a burner phone for Barney, doesn't it?

[sandwolf]

So what's Mars pursuing now? I thought it was a breach of contract case. What's this burner phone angle with mars?

Honestly, I don't really think Mars has much of a case....I think he is now just digging for damaging info and trying to use it to strong arm OM into a settlement. I have absolutely no legal knowledge, but with the way he is releasing all of this stuff to the press and trying to hurt OM publicly, that is just the sense that I get.

[dotcomdawg]

Honestly, I don't really think Mars has much of a case....I think he is now just digging for damaging info and trying to use it to strong arm OM into a settlement. I have absolutely no legal knowledge, but with the way he is releasing all of this stuff to the press and trying to hurt OM publicly, that is just the sense that I get.

Who cares, as long as keeps the heat turned up and keeps exposing the corruption.

[LockeDawg]

So what's Mars pursuing now? I thought it was a breach of contract case. What's this burner phone angle with mars?
THANK YOU! Hell, I thought I was the only one lost in this whole mess. Nutt/Mars are suing for breach of contract & disparagement of Nutt, I think......Why bring up the burner phones, what do they have to do with a breach of contract from a former employee.

[dawgs]

THANK YOU! Hell, I thought I was the only one lost in this whole mess. Nutt/Mars are suing for breach of contract & disparagement of Nutt, I think......Why bring up the burner phones, what do they have to do with a breach of contract from a former employee.

Well the crux of their case is freeze (and other OM officials) spreading lies to the media about nutt?s role in the violations. That?s how they found freeze?s escort calls by looking through his phone records for numbers matching sports media outlets. It sounds like in freeze?s deposition the burners came up, they probably asked him about whether he used any other phones during this time frame so they could obtain records. Because lying under oath is far more serious than lying to the NCAA, it sounds like freeze came clean about the burners during the depo.

[32 Dive]

So what's Mars pursuing now? I thought it was a breach of contract case. What's this burner phone angle with mars?

Only the novice player, will get himself checkmated in 2 moves. But Mars is about to get their asses in 5...

http://learnchess101.com/how-to-win-chess-in-5-moves-5-move-checkmate/

[Political Hack]

It's not rocket science. They told the NCAA they didn't have burners and now there's someone breaking the silence saying that's a lie. if that's the case, you're looking at a complete house cleaning. Ath Dir., Compliance, Football staff, everyone...

[Todd4State]

It's not rocket science. They told the NCAA they didn't have burners and now there's someone breaking the silence saying that's a lie. if that's the case, you're looking at a complete house cleaning. Ath Dir., Compliance, Football staff, everyone...

Do you think there will be a NOA #3?

[Mimi's Babies]

At this point do not make assumptions about recruits NOT having burner phones..... just saying

Psst... at least one person lied about a phone....

[Mimi's Babies]

THANK YOU! Hell, I thought I was the only one lost in this whole mess. Nutt/Mars are suing for breach of contract & disparagement of Nutt, I think......Why bring up the burner phones, what do they have to do with a breach of contract from a former employee.

Mr. Mar's is just picking up where the NCAA Left off... The burner phone of freeze has lead to other information for sure..... Haha... this is about to get really interesting...

[Commercecomet24]

It's not rocket science. They told the NCAA they didn't have burners and now there's someone breaking the silence saying that's a lie. if that's the case, you're looking at a complete house cleaning. Ath Dir., Compliance, Football staff, everyone...

You ever get tired of being right, Hack?

[sandwolf]

Who cares, as long as keeps the heat turned up and keeps exposing the corruption.

Agreed.

[RocketDawg]

It's not rocket science. They told the NCAA they didn't have burners and now there's someone breaking the silence saying that's a lie. if that's the case, you're looking at a complete house cleaning. Ath Dir., Compliance, Football staff, everyone...

Why is using burner phones more serious than all the other charges? Because they lied about having them? Didn't they lie about the other things too?

[Todd4State]

Why is using burner phones more serious than all the other charges? Because they lied about having them? Didn't they lie about the other things too?

Because you can use them to contact recruits during dead periods, on recruiting visits to other schools, pick up money from boosters, arrange meeting an escort posing as their potential girlfriend once they got to Ole Miss and etc.

The only reason a school would give a high school player a burner phone is for recruiting purposes.

[dawgs]

Why is using burner phones more serious than all the other charges? Because they lied about having them? Didn't they lie about the other things too?

The only reason to use burner phones is the break the rules.

[starkvegasdawg]

If only they could track online conversations across a PlayStation.

[bobtail bob]

Did the first set of phone records Mars got come through FOIA or subpoena in the federal case that was thrown out ?

[Mimi's Babies]

It seems like I saw a screen shot on twitter that was supposed to be from a player's phone and the name at the top said "Barney 2". Why would you list Barney 2 unless you had a Barney 1. That adds up to an official phone and a burner phone for Barney, doesn't it?

Do you remember this and who's twitter did you see it on... PM me if you want...

[Spiderman]

There is already proof, and OM and Barney admits, Barney used burners.

This really ain't news unless they can prove Freeze and 2 other staffers with burners.

[Mobile Bay]

It's a control thing with OM. They want to own the player by giving them things they can't pay for. They think filling that want/need makes them indispensable, and will make the player loyal. It's how they show "love". Need a phone, we got one. Need a car, we got one - you can even change your mind about what kind. Momma need a house, no problem. Need new furniture? We have store for that. Want OM swag for your crew? Call **** and she will hook you up, here is her card.

It's interesting that their version of love, respect, and loyalty revolves around material things and the perceptions that they bring.

A bunch of old white men owning a bunch of young black men. Sounds like Old Piss for sure.

[sandwolf]

Why is using burner phones more serious than all the other charges? Because they lied about having them? Didn't they lie about the other things too?

Because it shows that they set out to intentionally break the rules and proves that their whole 'mistakes were made' mantra is a crock of shit.

[Political Hack]

Why is using burner phones more serious than all the other charges? Because they lied about having them? Didn't they lie about the other things too?

NCAA has already proven improper contact with recruits as part of several allegations, but coaches declaring to the NCAA that they don't have them only to find out later they do will result in immediate show causes for all of them. You lie. You sit. And you invite the NCAA back to start exploring new phone calls. Depending on when they were using them, it could be disastrous. During the NCAA investigation? The NCAA isn't going to put up with much more bullshit before shutting them down completely. Ole Miss is basically forcing their hand at this point.

[BrunswickDawg]

NCAA has already proven improper contact with recruits as part of several allegations, but coaches declaring to the NCAA that they don't have them only to find out later they do will result in immediate show causes for all of them. You lie. You sit. And you invite the NCAA back to start exploring new phone calls. Depending on when they were using them, it could be disastrous. During the NCAA investigation? The NCAA isn't going to put up with much more bullshit before shutting them down completely. Ole Miss is basically forcing their hand at this point.
I'd laugh my ass off if it's Fat Matt they bust in this one. He seems dumb enough to have called from his office phone. Mars will have a statue on the MSU campus if he gets 2 OM HC's fired during this.

[msbulldog]

OM is like the cheating husband that gets busted pants down with a hooker but continues to lie and say it wasn't me. At a certain point you have to just come clean. Continuing to lie and play games just digs a deeper hole and ensures that consequences will be even more devastating.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

[Coackjek]

If only they could track online conversations across a PlayStation.

Agree. There is a lot of talk that happens over game chat and there is no log for these. Seems like an easy way to have extra contact with a SA without it being tracked.

[Mutt the Hoople]

For being the self proclaimed "Harvard of the south" they sure are a bunch of idiots!

Harvard and Yale have their share of idiots as well.
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[Mutt the Hoople]

Awbum may fight Ole Miss for that title. They think they're something special.

It's uncanny the similarities.

Ole Miss IS "special"...the same way Special Ed Kids are "special"...except they're neither sweet nor innocent. Instead they drool alot and play with themselves.

[Mimi's Babies]

I'd laugh my ass off if it's Fat Matt they bust in this one. He seems dumb enough to have called from his office phone. Mars will have a statue on the MSU campus if he gets 2 OM HC's fired during this.

Could you please explain to me why no one listed between page 30 and 40 ish, in the NOA, is not listed in the booster list. To include MATT LUKE. Luke's hands are very dirty.