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Howboutdemdogs
09-13-2017, 09:13 PM
There was a discussion tonight on ESPNU radio about the USC / Texas series records. One mouth piece was saying it was 4-0 due to vacated wins and the other was debating it was 4-1 due to a forfeit. Who cares what the answer is, but I did look up what each really meant by the NCAA. This could apply to Ole Piss with the ruling coming down. Interesting bathroom reading.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/friv/forfeits.html

TUSK
09-13-2017, 09:33 PM
There was a discussion tonight on ESPNU radio about the USC / Texas series records. One mouth piece was saying it was 4-0 due to vacated wins and the other was debating it was 4-1 due to a forfeit. Who cares what the answer is, but I did look up what each really meant by the NCAA. This could apply to Ole Piss with the ruling coming down. Interesting bathroom reading.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/friv/forfeits.html

USC screwed it up in their media guides...

With a forfeit, the Ws and Ls are reversed on each program's records...

Vacated wins "go away" but the loss remains for the "cheated" opponent.... it's silly....

Howboutdemdogs
09-13-2017, 09:48 PM
Tusk, I saw the vacated wins for 2005-2007 for Bama. I don't remember what happened for that to come down. (Serious question and no slight against UA) Can you expand on it?

TUSK
09-13-2017, 11:22 PM
Tusk, I saw the vacated wins for 2005-2007 for Bama. I don't remember what happened for that to come down. (Serious question and no slight against UA) Can you expand on it?

I think that was the "Textbook Scandal"... Student Athletes were using stipend/skolly money to buy then sell books for cash... oh, and I think we were still on probation at the time... not sure...

edit: I wasn't exactly right.... here's the skinny: http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=4250596

Commercecomet24
09-13-2017, 11:24 PM
I think that was the "Textbook Scandal"... Student Athletes were using stipend/skolly money to buy then sell books for cash... oh, and I think we were still on probation at the time... not sure...

The boys were just practicing capitalism

Jack Lambert
09-14-2017, 08:22 AM
I think that was the "Textbook Scandal"... Student Athletes were using stipend/skolly money to buy then sell books for cash... oh, and I think we were still on probation at the time... not sure...

edit: I wasn't exactly right.... here's the skinny: http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=4250596

It's something the NCAA does to Alabama every 10 years, so everyone doesn't think the NCAA lets Bama get away with what they want.

TUSK
09-14-2017, 09:28 AM
It's something the NCAA does to Alabama every 10 years, so everyone doesn't think the NCAA lets Bama get away with what they want.

That's right... and I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that the NCAA used testimony from (arch) rival coaches (under immunity), along with FBI investigation/subpoena power to nearly give Bammer the DP when there was no tangible evidence of rules violations ~'99...

FWIW, we got what we deserved, IMO...