View Full Version : The difference in vacated wims and forfeited games
Howboutdemdogs
09-13-2017, 09:13 PM
There was a discussion tonight on ESPNU radio about the USC / Texas series records. One mouth piece was saying it was 4-0 due to vacated wins and the other was debating it was 4-1 due to a forfeit. Who cares what the answer is, but I did look up what each really meant by the NCAA. This could apply to Ole Piss with the ruling coming down. Interesting bathroom reading.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/friv/forfeits.html
There was a discussion tonight on ESPNU radio about the USC / Texas series records. One mouth piece was saying it was 4-0 due to vacated wins and the other was debating it was 4-1 due to a forfeit. Who cares what the answer is, but I did look up what each really meant by the NCAA. This could apply to Ole Piss with the ruling coming down. Interesting bathroom reading.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/friv/forfeits.html
USC screwed it up in their media guides...
With a forfeit, the Ws and Ls are reversed on each program's records...
Vacated wins "go away" but the loss remains for the "cheated" opponent.... it's silly....
Howboutdemdogs
09-13-2017, 09:48 PM
Tusk, I saw the vacated wins for 2005-2007 for Bama. I don't remember what happened for that to come down. (Serious question and no slight against UA) Can you expand on it?
Tusk, I saw the vacated wins for 2005-2007 for Bama. I don't remember what happened for that to come down. (Serious question and no slight against UA) Can you expand on it?
I think that was the "Textbook Scandal"... Student Athletes were using stipend/skolly money to buy then sell books for cash... oh, and I think we were still on probation at the time... not sure...
edit: I wasn't exactly right.... here's the skinny: http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=4250596
Commercecomet24
09-13-2017, 11:24 PM
I think that was the "Textbook Scandal"... Student Athletes were using stipend/skolly money to buy then sell books for cash... oh, and I think we were still on probation at the time... not sure...
The boys were just practicing capitalism
Jack Lambert
09-14-2017, 08:22 AM
I think that was the "Textbook Scandal"... Student Athletes were using stipend/skolly money to buy then sell books for cash... oh, and I think we were still on probation at the time... not sure...
edit: I wasn't exactly right.... here's the skinny: http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=4250596
It's something the NCAA does to Alabama every 10 years, so everyone doesn't think the NCAA lets Bama get away with what they want.
It's something the NCAA does to Alabama every 10 years, so everyone doesn't think the NCAA lets Bama get away with what they want.
That's right... and I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that the NCAA used testimony from (arch) rival coaches (under immunity), along with FBI investigation/subpoena power to nearly give Bammer the DP when there was no tangible evidence of rules violations ~'99...
FWIW, we got what we deserved, IMO...
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