Cowboys QB Dak Prescott 'not at all' tempted to protest national anthem

[Mobile Bay]

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2017/08/28/dak-prescott-tempted-protest-national-anthem-take-freedom-granted

[RocketDawg]

He's a good guy and appreciates all he has.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Why? Because he was educated at Mississippi State University. This kid is just solid.

[Reason2succeed]

Probably because he's under a fourth round rookie contract.

[TimberBeast]

Probably because he's under a fourth round rookie contract.

Or because he's not a piece of garbage.

[Reason2succeed]

Or because he's not a piece of garbage.

Boy you sure are fired up about symbols.

[TimberBeast]

Boy you sure are fired up about symbols.

Well if I'm on the opposite side of you and kaepernick, then I know I'm on the right side.

[Pollodawg]

Probably because he's under a fourth round rookie contract.
So, he should be on the same side of the question as Kapernick because he's black? Is that what you're saying? You think every black athelete on the globe is just burning to protest the national anthem? Are you saying that Dak isn't being truthful?

[beretta]

Wasn't this news two weeks ago? or is this something else that has happened?

[Tbonewannabe]

Probably because he's under a fourth round rookie contract.

Or maybe he is appreciative of the people who died defending our country.

[MrKotter]

Probably because he's under a fourth round rookie contract.

Or, he's appreciative of the opportunity he has because he lives in this country and not a self serving POS

[BoomBoom]

Or, he's appreciative of the opportunity he has because he lives in this country and not a self serving POS

He's not uppity.**

[KB21]

Dak would rather do something to help out with legitimate causes and not the made up cause that Krapernick and the media push.

[KentuckyDawg13]

Freedom of speech will be taken away soon via p45.


Well if I'm on the opposite side of you and kaepernick, then I know I'm on the right side.

[Reason2succeed]

So, he should be on the same side of the question as Kapernick because he's black? Is that what you're saying? You think every black athelete on the globe is just burning to protest the national anthem? Are you saying that Dak isn't being truthful?

Nope. I didn't say any of that.

This is the problem with the entire public dialogue. People don't know how to listen and just make up what they think other people mean. It's amazing because for some people sitting during the national anthem means disrespecting the military when no one has ever said that at all.

By the way, Kap initially was on one knee which for many people is just another symbolic gesture that people appreciate (ask Tebow). Kap has never disrespected the military or anyone who died in the military. That's just the red meat that people feed you so that you won't consider the real issue.

The real issue is police not being held responsible for unarmed deaths which is why Dez went out of his way to clarify that his not kneeling does not mean he doesn't support social issues.

By kneeling Kap brought attention to an issue that the rest of society likes to forget. By not signing him NFL owners are actually keeping the issue alive.

I know you "blue blooded Americans" whose country has been taken away will not agree with me but that's fine. Continue on making America great again but this time do it for EVERYONE. God bless.

[TimberBeast]

The real issue is police not being held responsible for unarmed deaths which is why Dez went out of his way to clarify that his not kneeling does not mean he doesn't support social issues.


Hands up, don't shoot! Talk about being fed red meat to steer away from the real issue. The criminals are the problem, not the police.

[Commercecomet24]

Dak stood up for what he believes is right. Our country, our freedoms and our flag. I'm glad Daks a Dawg and thankful for the way he represents us! He continues to impress with more than just his play on the field but by the man he is off the field!

[Tbonewannabe]

Nope. I didn't say any of that.

This is the problem with the entire public dialogue. People don't know how to listen and just make up what they think other people mean. It's amazing because for some people sitting during the national anthem means disrespecting the military when no one has ever said that at all.

By the way, Kap initially was on one knee which for many people is just another symbolic gesture that people appreciate (ask Tebow). Kap has never disrespected the military or anyone who died in the military. That's just the red meat that people feed you so that you won't consider the real issue.

The real issue is police not being held responsible for unarmed deaths which is why Dez went out of his way to clarify that his not kneeling does not mean he doesn't support social issues.

By kneeling Kap brought attention to an issue that the rest of society likes to forget. By not signing him NFL owners are actually keeping the issue alive.

I know you "blue blooded Americans" whose country has been taken away will not agree with me but that's fine. Continue on making America great again but this time do it for EVERYONE. God bless.

It is how you view the flag. Is it a sign of oppressive American government or is it those people who have did a lot including giving their lives for our freedoms? On one hand, kneeling does draw attention to the social issues but some people just don't see it that way. It is your right to have an opinion but that right was paid for with lives.

[BoomBoom]

Hands up, don't shoot! Talk about being fed red meat to steer away from the real issue. The criminals are the problem, not the police.

The real issue is the reforms offered by BLM. They are common sense, unless you WANT black Americans to be oppressed by the police. Many do, so they refuse to address the reforms at all as they are so common sense that they can't be debated. So they distract. Carry on Timber, we know your true goal.

[Tbonewannabe]

The real issue is the reforms offered by BLM. They are common sense, unless you WANT black Americans to be oppressed by the police. Many do, so they refuse to address the reforms at all as they are so common sense that they can't be debated. So they distract. Carry on Timber, we know your true goal.

Several of the incidences with police are lack of adequate training. The woman killed in Minnesota was by a rookie that probably shouldn't have been allowed in that situation at that time. Cops go into dangerous situations and if they aren't prepared for it then things can go horribly wrong.

[sleepy dawg]

I still really don't understand why they play the national anthem before every single sporting event I see or go to. I'm glad Dak said what he said, but I hate the fact that athletes even have to deal with these kinds of questions. I've done some research and understand how it all got started, but I still don't understand why they sing the national anthem at every sporting event. We don't see this anywhere else that is not associated with the military.

Sports and patriotism going together is a forced concept. They don't necessarily have anything to do with each other except when countries face off against each other in events like the Olympics.

I don't sing the national anthem before work. I don't sing it at church. It's not played when I wake up in the morning. They don't play it before movies, or TV shows. As a matter of fact, I pretty much never hear the national anthem except for before sporting events.

You can be a great and valuable athlete or sports fan and not sing the national anthem before a game. Just because you're participating in an activity while being in america doesn't mean the national anthem should be played before hand. And just because it once made sense doesn't mean it still makes sense.

The question, or point I'm trying to make, has nothing to do with Colin's or Dak's or any other athletes handling of these situations. Why are athletes even having to deal with this sh*t when no one else does? They're just trying to go to work or play a game.

[DownwardDawg]

We just can't have nice things.

[shoeless joe]

The real issue is the reforms offered by BLM. They are common sense, unless you WANT black Americans to be oppressed by the police. Many do, so they refuse to address the reforms at all as they are so common sense that they can't be debated. So they distract. Carry on Timber, we know your true goal.

Had no knowledge of these reforms so I'm currently checking them out. After reading only two I already see that police shouldn't have high speed chases...if folks speed off they should get away with whatever crime they committed? There should be no repercussions for running from police on foot...everyone should try to run since nothing will happen.

They also want there to be no police involvement in situations of trespassing, disorderly conduct, and disturbing the peace. So there should be no consequences to illegal actions?

I've only skimmed thru the first two so there could be more that make no sense to me. I'm interested in how me thinking these are bogus means I want to oppress black people. Feel free to pm me as I really am interested in this and not trying to be a smart ass and get the thread locked.

[Tbonewannabe]

Had no knowledge of these reforms so I'm currently checking them out. After reading only two I already see that police shouldn't have high speed chases...if folks speed off they should get away with whatever crime they committed? There should be no repercussions for running from police on foot...everyone should try to run since nothing will happen.

They also want there to be no police involvement in situations of trespassing, disorderly conduct, and disturbing the peace. So there should be no consequences to illegal actions?

I've only skimmed thru the first two so there could be more that make no sense to me. I'm interested in how me thinking these are bogus means I want to oppress black people. Feel free to pm me as I really am interested in this and not trying to be a smart ass and get the thread locked.

I am not going to read it but is there a reason for no high speed chases? Are there circumstances where it would be allowed with the reforms? If someone kidnaps a child, I don't want the police to say "sorry, we aren't allowed to speed up in pursuit". What would be the repercussions from trespassing and the other issues? The cops get involved so you don't have a dumbass shooting people for trespassing on their property. I think when body cameras are more prevalent then that will help some issues. I still think either cops need more training or some people need to be weeded out that shouldn't be cops in the first place.

[Commercecomet24]

Here's a unique thought. I don't condone mistreatment of anyone regardless of race, creed, color or whatever, but if people don't want to get harassed by the police just don't commit crimes. My grandfather used to warn about being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Always said be prepared for the consequences. I come from a long line of Native American blood, people who have been oppressed more than anyone and yet still are honored and respectful of our government, constitution, country. Just my opinion and I respect others beliefs too.

[Tbonewannabe]

Here's a unique thought. I don't condone mistreatment of anyone regardless of race, creed, color or whatever, but if people don't want to get harassed by the police just don't commit crimes. My grandfather used to warn about being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Always said be prepared for the consequences. I come from a long line of Native American blood, people who have been oppressed more than anyone and yet still are honored and respectful of our government, constitution, country. Just my opinion and I respect others beliefs too.

It isn't that simple though. There are several instances where the person wasn't doing anything incorrectly but the cop still did not act correctly. I saw an article talking about training cops in hand to hand combat so they are more confident they can handle issues without a gun. It was lowering situations of police brutality and misconduct. It could lead to a cop breaking someone's arm but that is a lot better than shooting someone.

[Commercecomet24]

It isn't that simple though. There are several instances where the person wasn't doing anything incorrectly but the cop still did not act correctly. I saw an article talking about training cops in hand to hand combat so they are more confident they can handle issues without a gun. It was lowering situations of police brutality and misconduct. It could lead to a cop breaking someone's arm but that is a lot better than shooting someone.

True and I agree on the training. However these incidents are few and happen to all types of people some are just more highly publicized by the media than others.

[Commercecomet24]

Something to remember about kaepernick too is he doesn't have a job now because HE opted out of his contract with 49ers not because they fired him.

[BoomBoom]

Had no knowledge of these reforms so I'm currently checking them out. After reading only two I already see that police shouldn't have high speed chases...if folks speed off they should get away with whatever crime they committed? There should be no repercussions for running from police on foot...everyone should try to run since nothing will happen.

They also want there to be no police involvement in situations of trespassing, disorderly conduct, and disturbing the peace. So there should be no consequences to illegal actions?

I've only skimmed thru the first two so there could be more that make no sense to me. I'm interested in how me thinking these are bogus means I want to oppress black people. Feel free to pm me as I really am interested in this and not trying to be a smart ass and get the thread locked.

I wouldn't say high speed chases should be banned, but they definitely should be reformed. There's info out there on it that's better than I could explain it.

The problem with charges like trespassing, disorderly conduct, etc is they are completely arbitrary and are used by cops to make arrests when they dont have grounds for an actual charge. Want a reporter to stop filming? Just order him to and arrest him when he refuses. If you had consequences for cops abusing those charges, then a change wouldn't be necessary.

[BoomBoom]

Had no knowledge of these reforms so I'm currently checking them out. After reading only two I already see that police shouldn't have high speed chases...if folks speed off they should get away with whatever crime they committed? There should be no repercussions for running from police on foot...everyone should try to run since nothing will happen.

They also want there to be no police involvement in situations of trespassing, disorderly conduct, and disturbing the peace. So there should be no consequences to illegal actions?

I've only skimmed thru the first two so there could be more that make no sense to me. I'm interested in how me thinking these are bogus means I want to oppress black people. Feel free to pm me as I really am interested in this and not trying to be a smart ass and get the thread locked.

These are the ones I'm referring to btw:

https://www.joincampaignzero.org/#vision

[BeardoMSU]

Why the **** do we have a politics board, if we're not going to use it? C'mon, Mods.

[Reason2succeed]

It is how you view the flag. Is it a sign of oppressive American government or is it those people who have did a lot including giving their lives for our freedoms? On one hand, kneeling does draw attention to the social issues but some people just don't see it that way. It is your right to have an opinion but that right was paid for with lives.

Exactly! Many of those are black people who died in every war this country has ever engaged in plus civil rights activists like Medgar Evers in Jackson. His death secured just as much freedom for black people as any soldier in uniform. But honestly I don't think Kap kneeling was a slight on any of them. All I interpreted him as saying is that he did not feel that this country is fair or equal when INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY black people can be killed by police and then the police go scott free.

Back to sports. I don't mind the national anthem being played and I don't even mind the fact that NFL owners choose not to hire a particular person. I just wish people would acknowledge the real issue which is police brutality and stop acting like it is disrespect of a flag or anthem. The truth is that some people don't think that the police are ever wrong in the way that that they handle black people.

"Wrong place wrong time" has historically been code for black people need to know their place. Michael Bennett just had an incident in Las Vegas. How was he at the wrong place at the wrong time? Until you have walked a mile in someone's shoes you shouldn't presume to know what it feels like.

[Reason2succeed]

Why the **** do we have a politics board, if we're not going to use it? C'mon, Mods.

Go back and do a search on how many cheap shots get fired here at the Clinton's, Obama's, or liberal's. You would be amazed.

[Jack Lambert]

Ya'll can think what you want but I think it is a stupid ass idea to sit or kneel when the national anthem is being played. **** them!

No way no how will the NFL get money out of me. No TV in my house will have NFL on them. My son can go to his friends house if he wants to watch.

[TimberBeast]

The real issue is the reforms offered by BLM. They are common sense, unless you WANT black Americans to be oppressed by the police. Many do, so they refuse to address the reforms at all as they are so common sense that they can't be debated. So they distract. Carry on Timber, we know your true goal.

You can't let a domestic terrorist organization like blm determine rules and laws in a civilized society, especially when an overwhelmingly vast majority of the issues they are complaining about are completely made up.

[smootness]

I still really don't understand why they play the national anthem before every single sporting event I see or go to.

This. All day, this.

[Commercecomet24]

Here's my problem. The narrative being propagated by the media and other groups is that because a few cops screw up that means all of them are evil. I don't judge any group of people by a small percentage of what some of them do and none of us should but that's what being done. Is our system perfect, no, do some changes need to be made, yes, is it the best form of government in the world, yes.

[smootness]

Here's my problem. The narrative being propagated by the media and other groups is that because a few cops screw up that means all of them are evil. I don't judge any group of people by a small percentage of what some of them do and none of us should but that's what being done. Is our system perfect, no, do some changes need to be made, yes, is it the best form of government in the world, yes.

I haven't heard anyone argue that because cops misbehave or are corrupt or whatever, that we need to move to socialism or some other form of government.

If changes need to be made, then why are we so defensive about talking about those changes?

[Commercecomet24]

I haven't heard anyone argue that because cops misbehave or are corrupt or whatever, that we need to move to socialism or some other form of government.

If changes need to be made, then why are we so defensive about talking about those changes?

If you don't think the media is portraying cops as being the problem you're not watching much tv or reading much. That's what I'm referring to and because of that cops are being ambushed every week now.

I'm all for change for good, but once again I don't judge any group by a small percentage.

[Reason2succeed]

Here's my problem. The narrative being propagated by the media and other groups is that because a few cops screw up that means all of them are evil. I don't judge any group of people by a small percentage of what some of them do and none of us should but that's what being done. Is our system perfect, no, do some changes need to be made, yes, is it the best form of government in the world, yes.

Everything I hear is that all cops are not evil but there are some that need to be trained out of their inherent biases that cause them to be trigger happy when dealing with black people. Also, the grand juries and courts that allow cops that have killed unarmed black people is a huge part of the discontent in BLM.

Jack, why wouldn't you watch NFL when the owners are upholding your view?

[Commercecomet24]

Everything I hear is that all cops are not evil but there are some that need to be trained out of their inherent biases that cause them to be trigger happy when dealing with black people. Also, the grand juries and courts that allow cops that have killed unarmed black people is a huge part of the discontent in BLM.

Jack, why wouldn't you watch NFL when the owners are upholding your view?

Man I wholeheartedly agree that anyone taking a life unjustly needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Absolutely!

I have a brother in law and cousins who are cops and they now have to worry more about coming home alive than ever before because of the media.

It's honestly sad that we all just can't get along.

[Reason2succeed]

Man I wholeheartedly agree that anyone taking a life unjustly needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Absolutely!

I have a brother in law and cousins who are cops and they now have to worry more about coming home alive than ever before because of the media.

It's honestly sad that we all just can't get along.

I pray they have long safe careers and that they never have to take a life in performing their duties.

[Jack Lambert]

Everything I hear is that all cops are not evil but there are some that need to be trained out of their inherent biases that cause them to be trigger happy when dealing with black people. Also, the grand juries and courts that allow cops that have killed unarmed black people is a huge part of the discontent in BLM.

Jack, why wouldn't you watch NFL when the owners are upholding your view?

The owners are allowing it to go on. Hit their pocket books and they will get a new commissioner with a set of balls.

[Commercecomet24]

I pray they have long safe careers and that they never have to take a life in performing their duties.

Amen and thank you! None of them have ever had to yet and pray they don't. My brother in law is a swat team member and been in some tough spots and seen some people kill themselves but he hasn't had to use deadly force yet.

Its why I enjoy open discussion. I enjoy hearing perspectives from folks and I appreciate yours

[Commercecomet24]

Can we all agree Dak is awesome and tsun sucks!

[Reason2succeed]

Can we all agree Dak is awesome and tsun sucks!

Absolutely!!! Don't they get their last win of the season this week?

[Commercecomet24]

Absolutely!!! Don't they get their last win of the season this week?

Lol it sure looks that way!

[BeardoMSU]

Can we all agree Dak is awesome and tsun sucks!

http://i.imgur.com/45WW0wy.gif

[RocketDawg]

Absolutely!!! Don't they get their last win of the season this week?

I think so. But they looked better than I expected last weekend. Of course, they were only playing USA but we know how that can go.

[Jack Lambert]

I think so. But they looked better than I expected last weekend. Of course, they were only playing USA but we know how that can go.

I have always thought the offense was going to look good this season. Defense is going to be their doing in.

[Commercecomet24]

I have always thought the offense was going to look good this season. Defense is going to be their doing in.

Yeah they gave up points and yards to usa and it was only 13-10 at half. Their o will be ok but their d ain't stopping anyone with a pulse

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Exactly! Many of those are black people who died in every war this country has ever engaged in plus civil rights activists like Medgar Evers in Jackson. His death secured just as much freedom for black people as any soldier in uniform. But honestly I don't think Kap kneeling was a slight on any of them. All I interpreted him as saying is that he did not feel that this country is fair or equal when INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY black people can be killed by police and then the police go scott free.

Back to sports. I don't mind the national anthem being played and I don't even mind the fact that NFL owners choose not to hire a particular person. I just wish people would acknowledge the real issue which is police brutality and stop acting like it is disrespect of a flag or anthem. The truth is that some people don't think that the police are ever wrong in the way that that they handle black people.

"Wrong place wrong time" has historically been code for black people need to know their place. Michael Bennett just had an incident in Las Vegas. How was he at the wrong place at the wrong time? Until you have walked a mile in someone's shoes you shouldn't presume to know what it feels like.

And the truth is some people don't think that hating the po-leece is indoctrinated in certain cultures.

This is a perfect example of the overreaction by BLM and these people who think these guys are really fighting for a cause. Bennett was at a club where shots were fired and cops showed up and ordered everyone to the ground to search and investigate. Bennett didn't stay put and ran. A cop outside the club stopped him and ordered him to the ground at gunpoint. He was detained until they could determine he wasn't involved and then released.

This isn't about the police, it's about authority and civilized norms.

[shoeless joe]

These are the ones I'm referring to btw:

https://www.joincampaignzero.org/#vision

Those are the ones I was referring to as well. Are there some points in there that make sense...absolutely. But there are also a lot of points that would lead to unabashed anarchy and strip the police of the ability to safely do their job.

These are the points I was talking about, straight off of that sight:

End Policing of Minor "Broken Windows" Offenses

The following activities do not threaten public safety and are often used to police black bodies. Decriminalize these activities or de-prioritize their enforcement:

Consumption of Alcohol on Streets
Marijuana Possession
Disorderly Conduct
Trespassing
Loitering
Disturbing the Peace (including Loud Music)
Spitting
Jaywalking
Bicycling on the Sidewalk

From the section on police force:

ban using force on a person for talking back or as punishment for running away

use minimum amount of force to apprehend a subject, with specific guidelines for the types of force and tools authorized for a given level of resistance

Prohibit police officers from:

shooting at moving vehicles (Ex: Denver PD Policy)
moving in front of moving vehicles (Ex: Denver PD Policy)
high-speed chases of people who have not and are not about to commit a violent felony



These are a few examples of things I disagree with. This is not all encompassing. What I'd like to know is how does my disagreeing with these ideas make me into someone that "supports oppressing black people"?

[Quaoarsking]

So apparently Marshawn Lynch has never stood for the national anthem in his life and nobody ever cared until 2017?

[Gutter Cobreh]

By kneeling Kap brought attention to an issue that the rest of society likes to forget. By not signing him NFL owners are actually keeping the issue alive.

Correct me if I'm wrong (but pretty sure I'm not), but didn't Kap opt OUT of his contract with the 49'ers? Why should an NFL owner be expected to sign him when he chose to leave the team he was under contract with? He'd be employed and on an NFL roster had he not CHOSEN to hit the FA market.

Choices have consequences.

[BoomBoom]

Those are the ones I was referring to as well. Are there some points in there that make sense...absolutely. But there are also a lot of points that would lead to unabashed anarchy and strip the police of the ability to safely do their job.

These are the points I was talking about, straight off of that sight:

End Policing of Minor "Broken Windows" Offenses

The following activities do not threaten public safety and are often used to police black bodies. Decriminalize these activities or de-prioritize their enforcement:

Consumption of Alcohol on Streets
Marijuana Possession
Disorderly Conduct
Trespassing
Loitering
Disturbing the Peace (including Loud Music)
Spitting
Jaywalking
Bicycling on the Sidewalk

From the section on police force:

ban using force on a person for talking back or as punishment for running away

use minimum amount of force to apprehend a subject, with specific guidelines for the types of force and tools authorized for a given level of resistance

Prohibit police officers from:

shooting at moving vehicles (Ex: Denver PD Policy)
moving in front of moving vehicles (Ex: Denver PD Policy)
high-speed chases of people who have not and are not about to commit a violent felony



These are a few examples of things I disagree with. This is not all encompassing. What I'd like to know is how does my disagreeing with these ideas make me into someone that "supports oppressing black people"?

There's definitely room to debate how best to implement these reforms, like any reforms, though I think saying de-emphasizing minor charges (that are usually bullcrap) is going to lead to anarchy is a leap. There's a big difference between charging trespassing when you catch someone prowling a house as opposed to when someone cuts across an empty parking lot, or charging disorderly conduct for refusing to stop filming.

Honest disagreement on how to implement reforms is fine. The problem is the people that refuse to admit reforms are needed at all. That common, and in control, view is why kneeling is felt as necessary by some.

It's not a black American problem. They are just the canaries in the coal mine. Its a police culture view. See the nurse recently detained for no legal reason. The forces defended it. Same with Freddie Gray. He was arrested for an incorrect charge, the knife he was carrying was legal, yet the police union insisted the arrest was legal.

[Reason2succeed]

And the truth is some people don't think that hating the po-leece is indoctrinated in certain cultures.


Since you know the "truth" and why would "certain cultures" waste their time and energy indoctrinating themselves into hating the "po-leece"?

Granted that it doesn't help that American history includes police officers attacking peaceful black protesters with dogs and clubs and fire hoses.

[shoeless joe]

There's definitely room to debate how best to implement these reforms, like any reforms, though I think saying de-emphasizing minor charges (that are usually bullcrap) is going to lead to anarchy is a leap. There's a big difference between charging trespassing when you catch someone prowling a house as opposed to when someone cuts across an empty parking lot, or charging disorderly conduct for refusing to stop filming.

Honest disagreement on how to implement reforms is fine. The problem is the people that refuse to admit reforms are needed at all. That common, and in control, view is why kneeling is felt as necessary by some.

It's not a black American problem. They are just the canaries in the coal mine. Its a police culture view. See the nurse recently detained for no legal reason. The forces defended it. Same with Freddie Gray. He was arrested for an incorrect charge, the knife he was carrying was legal, yet the police union insisted the arrest was legal.

Fair enough...I don't think the leap I made was quite as drastic as the one you originally stated. None the less, I have no problem saying some things need to be examined and some changes could be beneficial. However, when a group for change advocates things that seemingly would completely strip police of their authority it takes away their credibility on the things that actually do make sense.

[Jack Lambert]

So apparently Marshawn Lynch has never stood for the national anthem in his life and nobody ever cared until 2017?

Was he the one who got away with murder?

[BoomBoom]

Fair enough...I don't think the leap I made was quite as drastic as the one you originally stated. None the less, I have no problem saying some things need to be examined and some changes could be beneficial. However, when a group for change advocates things that seemingly would completely strip police of their authority it takes away their credibility on the things that actually do make sense.

I think the point they are trying to make is that cops shouldn't have the authority to use generic, arbitrary charges to punish citizens for legal activity, like talking back or filming. If cops cant use that authority properly, then it must be taken away, or else we have voluntarily given up our freedom. I do think we should ensure those charges are used correctly, including by punishing cops that abuse them, including jail time. But I can understand why some assume that will never happen, and would prefer to just go ahead and remove their ability to abuse those powers.

[smootness]

So apparently Marshawn Lynch has never stood for the national anthem in his life and nobody ever cared until 2017?

He has definitely stood in the past.

[Tbonewannabe]

Was he the one who got away with murder?

That was Ray Lewis.

[Pollodawg]

Nope. I didn't say any of that.

This is the problem with the entire public dialogue. People don't know how to listen and just make up what they think other people mean. It's amazing because for some people sitting during the national anthem means disrespecting the military when no one has ever said that at all.

By the way, Kap initially was on one knee which for many people is just another symbolic gesture that people appreciate (ask Tebow). Kap has never disrespected the military or anyone who died in the military. That's just the red meat that people feed you so that you won't consider the real issue.

The real issue is police not being held responsible for unarmed deaths which is why Dez went out of his way to clarify that his not kneeling does not mean he doesn't support social issues.

By kneeling Kap brought attention to an issue that the rest of society likes to forget. By not signing him NFL owners are actually keeping the issue alive.

I know you "blue blooded Americans" whose country has been taken away will not agree with me but that's fine. Continue on making America great again but this time do it for EVERYONE. God bless.

You"blue blooded" Americans? You're all about generalizing. Look, your statement implied that the major reason Dak didn't kneel for the national anthem is that he's afraid for the security of his contract. What this implies is that you believe he actually wants to kneel in the first place and doesn't out of fear. Why would you just assume he wants to kneel? Because he's black? That's generalization at its finest.

[Cooterpoot]

1. To each their own. It's why this country is better than everywhere else. Free speech is a good thing whether you agree with it or not.
2. Kap is a damn fool. He turned down millions thinking he could do better and he couldn't. Happens to people everyday that's looking for more when they've already got a lot (it's called greed). Plus, he's got a crazy chic in his ear and on his jock that's already ruined one NFL player. Damn black widow....(not in the racist sense)

[Mobile Bay]

Mods- All I wanted here was a nice happy Dak Prescott thread. Please delete this. I would if I could.

[smootness]

For the record, Kaepernick was going to be cut if he didn't opt out. He knew it, and the 49ers have admitted as much.

That said, I don't care that he isn't on a team, and I don't think it's the NFL's duty to make sure he is. He made a choice, which he is free to do, and I have no issue with his choice. But you have to deal with the consequences. He took a stand he seemed willing to pay the price for, and it did cost him.

[Cooterpoot]

For the record, Kaepernick was going to be cut if he didn't opt out. He knew it, and the 49ers have admitted as much.

That said, I don't care that he isn't on a team, and I don't think it's the NFL's duty to make sure he is. He made a choice, which he is free to do, and I have no issue with his choice. But you have to deal with the consequences. He took a stand he seemed willing to pay the price for, and it did cost him.

He could've restructured for less money. He chose not to. It was offered to him.

[Cooterpoot]

For the record, Kaepernick was going to be cut if he didn't opt out. He knew it, and the 49ers have admitted as much.

That said, I don't care that he isn't on a team, and I don't think it's the NFL's duty to make sure he is. He made a choice, which he is free to do, and I have no issue with his choice. But you have to deal with the consequences. He took a stand he seemed willing to pay the price for, and it did cost him.


You're right, I was wrong on the contract deal. I got it confused with the Denver negotiations and what they were trying to do. My bad.

[Mutt the Hoople]

The real issue is the reforms offered by BLM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAUDDpwE_ZU

[BoomBoom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAUDDpwE_ZU

thank you for proving my point. distract, distract, distract. never address the issues.

[BeardoMSU]

Lock. It. Up. For. ****. Sakes.

[Mobile Bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAUDDpwE_ZU

That is why I don't leave the house unarmed.

[TimberBeast]

thank you for proving my point. distract, distract, distract. never address the issues.

Distracting by pointing out the real actual problem in this country and not something completely made up by the crazies? You are full of it and you know it, you just want chaos with no consequences just like blm.

[BoomBoom]

Distracting by pointing out the real actual problem in this country and not something completely made up by the crazies? You are full of it and you know it, you just want chaos with no consequences just like blm.

I really hope that did not make sense in your head, for your sake.

[TimberBeast]

I really hope that did not make sense in your head, for your sake.

thank you for proving my point. distract, distract, distract. never address the issues.

[sandwolf]

thank you for proving my point. distract, distract, distract. never address the issues.

I've got news for you, the only people that are responsible for the distractions are the BLM leaders and a large number of people that support the movement.....it's not everybody else's fault for seeing all the crazy, violent, lawless shit that has been done in the name of BLM, noticing the fact that the BLM leaders and the majority of its supporters weren't adamantly condemning and discouraging it, and coming to the conclusion that BLM was a bunch of radical, racist lunatics that should be ignored. I am sure that there are some real issues that need to be addressed, but BLM is not the group to lead that charge because they have lost all credibility.

[BoomBoom]

I've got news for you, the only people that are responsible for the distractions are the BLM leaders and a large number of people that support the movement.....it's not everybody else's fault for seeing all the crazy, violent, lawless shit that has been done in the name of BLM, noticing the fact that the BLM leaders and the majority of its supporters weren't adamantly condemning and discouraging it, and coming to the conclusion that BLM was a bunch of radical, racist lunatics that should be ignored. I am sure that there are some real issues that need to be addressed, but BLM is not the group to lead that charge because they have lost all credibility.

Ive got news for you, the violence at BLM events has been minor and massively overstated, they did adamantly condemn and discourage it. The radical racist lunatics are those that run propaganda to discredit any group that comes along to challenge the racist status quo. They did the same thing in the 60s. Dont fall for it so easily.

[BoomBoom]

thank you for proving my point. distract, distract, distract. never address the issues.

What issues did you think you raised, local crazy person?