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DeviousDawg
08-19-2017, 05:37 PM
We currently have 22 guys committed in the 2018 class, with a real chance to have 24-25 committed by the start of the season. We know that Mullen has been pushing for the early signing period for years. The 2018 signing class will be the first to have this option, with the early signing period being December 20-22, 2017. We will sign 25+ during this early period, and will only have to focus on a handful of guys in what is usually the most demanding month of recruiting, January. While all the other schools are using all of their time and resources on signing their big targets during January, we will be using the majority of our resources to be getting a leg up on the 2019 class.

This couldn't have come at a better time, as the 2019 in state class is arguably the best in Mississippi history. I think this is the plan from here on out. Mullen seems to be taking full advantage of the situation going on at Ole Miss. This 2017-2019 time frame seems to be the time where we can really take the next step from a consistent 6-7 win team, to a consistent 8-9 win team. Our program is in a position that it may have never been in before. We have the second longest tenured coach in the SEC, and a 7 year bowl streak. If we can finish the 2018 class strong, and use the next year and a half to work on what may end up being a historic 2019 class, the sky will be the limit on what this program can do in the future while OM is crippled by sanctions. Not to mention the fact that we have the most important position, quarterback, secured for the next half decade plus, with Key Thompson, Jalen Maden, and Jalon Jones.

Like Dan said back in 2009, there is one program in this state on the rise, and it's right here in Starkville. The future is bright.

Commercecomet24
08-19-2017, 05:40 PM
Great stuff, DD!

HailState

anubus
08-19-2017, 06:02 PM
These next 3 years are going to be fun times

tireddawg
08-19-2017, 06:06 PM
Damn dude, I'm gonna need to get the shears out now.

gtowndawg
08-19-2017, 06:17 PM
Here here my good man!

Coursesuper
08-19-2017, 06:26 PM
These next 3 years are going to be fun times

If we play this right it can be a lot longer than three years.

LanceHarbor
08-19-2017, 06:40 PM
The 2018 signing class will be the first to have this option, with the early signing period being December 20-22, 2017. We will sign 25+ during this early period, and will only have to focus on a handful of guys in what is usually the most demanding month of recruiting, January. While all the other schools are using all of their time and resources on signing their big targets during January


While I admire the enthusiasm, this assumption is patently false.

DeviousDawg
08-19-2017, 06:50 PM
While I admire the enthusiasm, this assumption is patently false.

Which part is false?

We have 22 commits, currently the most in the SEC. The other 13 SEC teams have 15.7 commits, on average. This means from here until signing day, the other SEC teams will be spending more time on the 2018 class than we will need to.

LanceHarbor
08-19-2017, 06:59 PM
The part where "all the other schools spending their time and resources on signing their big targets in January." Big programs can adjust to the new rules too.

Dolphus Raymond
08-19-2017, 06:59 PM
While I admire the enthusiasm, this assumption is patently false.

Damn. A couple people with small posting totals throwing a lot of shade today.

shrimp
08-19-2017, 07:29 PM
Damn. A couple people with small posting totals throwing a lot of shade today.

Lance is still rehabbing his knee injury from 1999.

ShotgunDawg
08-19-2017, 07:42 PM
The part where "all the other schools spending their time and resources on signing their big targets in January." Big programs can adjust to the new rules too.

I think the key is that whoever OM hires after the season will have to sign a 2018 class due to them have hardly any commits, while our class will already be signed and we'll be spending most of our time in the 2019 class.

OM isn't getting any good players anyway, but, by getting guys signed in the Dec and OM still trying to fill out a class, we'll be working a year ahead of them.

Bucky Dog
08-19-2017, 07:49 PM
I got a boner!

RougeDawg
08-19-2017, 08:08 PM
We currently have 22 guys committed in the 2018 class, with a real chance to have 24-25 committed by the start of the season. We know that Mullen has been pushing for the early signing period for years. The 2018 signing class will be the first to have this option, with the early signing period being December 20-22, 2017. We will sign 25+ during this early period, and will only have to focus on a handful of guys in what is usually the most demanding month of recruiting, January. While all the other schools are using all of their time and resources on signing their big targets during January, we will be using the majority of our resources to be getting a leg up on the 2019 class.

This couldn't have come at a better time, as the 2019 in state class is arguably the best in Mississippi history. I think this is the plan from here on out. Mullen seems to be taking full advantage of the situation going on at Ole Miss. This 2017-2019 time frame seems to be the time where we can really take the next step from a consistent 6-7 win team, to a consistent 8-9 win team. Our program is in a position that it may have never been in before. We have the second longest tenured coach in the SEC, and a 7 year bowl streak. If we can finish the 2018 class strong, and use the next year and a half to work on what may end up being a historic 2019 class, the sky will be the limit on what this program can do in the future while OM is crippled by sanctions. Not to mention the fact that we have the most important position, quarterback, secured for the next half decade plus, with Key Thompson, Jalen Maden, and Jalon Jones.

Like Dan said back in 2009, there is one program in this state on the rise, and it's right here in Starkville. The future is bright.

Great post.

Somewhat answers a question that popped into my mind earlier workin in the yard. When the notification of our latest 2019 commit I started thinking. Thinking about how long before Mullen takes the next step on the field with this program? How long does he have to start beating the LSU's and Bama's in conjunction with improving against the A&M/Auburn types.

Before you jump on me about Auburn being in the same category as LSU, Dan has had success against Auburn.

I mean when is dan going to start having consistent 9 win seasons with 10,11 and even some unprecedented 12 win seasons? Yes we play in a difficult division, but put this defensive talent and on the 2014 team and we may win it all. We e slowly been building and given our current QB success and situation, one can only safely assume that the other pieces will start coming to State.

Lastly, how long are we supporters going to be content waiting to see if Dn does take that next step? It appears he has taken that next step in recruiting and been rejuvenated by Cohen. Now he's got to take the next step on the field.

NCDawg
08-19-2017, 08:25 PM
I admire your enthusiasm also, but signing zero OL last year (that qualify), and only 2 JC OL, that will probably have to be redshirted, will not cut it in my opinion. We appear to be doing great everywhere else, but Mullen seems to ignore the OL every year, and until he shores that up, I believe that our getting to Atlanta is very improbable.

nashLA
08-19-2017, 09:19 PM
I agree, the future looks bright for us. We should be cautious though. Is the OM machine just going to sit idle for the next few years? Are they going to stand by while we amass great recruiting classes? Keep in mind that for a few of their boosters (no, not all - I know many good and decent OM folks), their self worth hinges on being able to look down on others, to believe they are superior to someone, anyone. I expect the machine to be retooled to steer potential MSU recruits away to any other team. I expect them to spend large quantities of cash on private investigators to try and catch us cheating, and to hire others to create the appearance of cheating. They will stop at nothing to bring us down to their level, because the one thing they cannot abide is to not have someone they can sneer at so they can feel better about themselves.

CadaverDawg
08-19-2017, 09:24 PM
We have got to secure Mullen and Grantham. Do whatever it takes to maintain continuity as best we can, but we absolutely cannot lose Dan. These next few years are so big....pay the man whatever it takes to lock his ass down.


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ShotgunDawg
08-19-2017, 09:33 PM
I admire your enthusiasm also, but signing zero OL last year (that qualify), and only 2 JC OL, that will probably have to be redshirted, will not cut it in my opinion. We appear to be doing great everywhere else, but Mullen seems to ignore the OL every year, and until he shores that up, I believe that our getting to Atlanta is very improbable.

Our top OL Suggs did qualify.

Commercecomet24
08-19-2017, 09:34 PM
We have got to secure Mullen and Grantham. Do whatever it takes to maintain continuity as best we can, but we absolutely cannot lose Dan. These next few years are so big....pay the man whatever it takes to lock his ass down.


https://m.popkey.co/75baf1/0D9Mv.gif

+1000

Dolphus Raymond
08-19-2017, 09:52 PM
Pay whatever it takes. The opportunity may never come again so we can't afford to **** it up
1. Coaching stability
2. Keep it clean and stay out of trouble

Turfdawg67
08-19-2017, 10:15 PM
I admire your enthusiasm also, but signing zero OL last year (that qualify), and only 2 JC OL, that will probably have to be redshirted, will not cut it in my opinion. We appear to be doing great everywhere else, but Mullen seems to ignore the OL every year, and until he shores that up, I believe that our getting to Atlanta is very improbable.

And there it is... I had the over/under on when lack of OL/WR recruiting would be mentioned at under 7. Damn! Freakin' lost the Hev mention too. C'mon guys!

Todd4State
08-19-2017, 11:13 PM
I agree, the future looks bright for us. We should be cautious though. Is the OM machine just going to sit idle for the next few years? Are they going to stand by while we amass great recruiting classes? Keep in mind that for a few of their boosters (no, not all - I know many good and decent OM folks), their self worth hinges on being able to look down on others, to believe they are superior to someone, anyone. I expect the machine to be retooled to steer potential MSU recruits away to any other team. I expect them to spend large quantities of cash on private investigators to try and catch us cheating, and to hire others to create the appearance of cheating. They will stop at nothing to bring us down to their level, because the one thing they cannot abide is to not have someone they can sneer at so they can feel better about themselves.

Ole Miss will have to be very careful because they will be on repeat violator status. Based on 1994, and what's currently going on with their recruiting, yes they will cut it back for awhile because they won't have a choice.

sandwolf
08-20-2017, 12:02 AM
We have got to secure Mullen and Grantham. Do whatever it takes to maintain continuity as best we can, but we absolutely cannot lose Dan. These next few years are so big....pay the man whatever it takes to lock his ass down.


https://m.popkey.co/75baf1/0D9Mv.gif

+1

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
08-20-2017, 07:25 AM
Ole Miss will have to be very careful because they will be on repeat violator status. Based on 1994, and what's currently going on with their recruiting, yes they will cut it back for awhile because they won't have a choice.

I hope we have all of our recruiting ducks in a row. You know the rebs are going to go on the warpath looking for dirt on our recruiting.

msbulldog
08-20-2017, 07:37 AM
Give Mullen a raise hell, give Bracky a raise.

Coursesuper
08-20-2017, 09:34 AM
I agree, the future looks bright for us. We should be cautious though. Is the OM machine just going to sit idle for the next few years? Are they going to stand by while we amass great recruiting classes? Keep in mind that for a few of their boosters (no, not all - I know many good and decent OM folks), their self worth hinges on being able to look down on others, to believe they are superior to someone, anyone. I expect the machine to be retooled to steer potential MSU recruits away to any other team. I expect them to spend large quantities of cash on private investigators to try and catch us cheating, and to hire others to create the appearance of cheating. They will stop at nothing to bring us down to their level, because the one thing they cannot abide is to not have someone they can sneer at so they can feel better about themselves.

I can't disagree with your post, there will definitely be a great deal of bullshat coming from them, all we have to do is look that way right now to see what's going on with the Grove crowd. They are loosing their minds right now and it will only go down hill after they are handed down crippling sanctions.

We as an alumni can't do what we have done in the past and let in fighting over stupid shat split us into factions. We are already split enough like it is. If we are to take this opportunity and exploit it to it's fullest, solidarity will be the word of the day. What can't have the " He has to win x games" to fast. If we aren't stupid and we play the long game right, the talent level will be what it needs to be to compete for the west. It's up to us and our administration not to cock this opportunity up we have a chance to bury the grove dwelling bastards for year to come, but we have to stick together.

Howboutdemdogs
08-20-2017, 09:39 AM
It is exciting again in Starkville! Doing it the right way and making us a factor in the SEC. Now, we just need the media to pull their heads out their asses.

1bigdawg
08-20-2017, 09:52 AM
Our top OL Suggs did qualify.

You are right and he missed on that, but one or two HS OLs is still a problem.

RougeDawg
08-20-2017, 10:11 AM
It is exciting again in Starkville! Doing it the right way and making us a factor in the SEC. Now, we just need the media to pull their heads out their asses.

Don't hold your breath on that last part. Until the prominent msu alum start approaching the level of $ they pump into the media groups, don't expect much changes. Money talks.

Coursesuper
08-20-2017, 10:24 AM
Don't hold your breath on that last part. Until the prominent msu alum start approaching the level of $ they pump into the media groups, don't expect much changes. Money talks.

That is why I made the post just up the board, it's time to get on one page as an alumni. We are the worlds worst about not marching to the same drummer. And yet look what Mullen and Co. have accomplished to date.

War Machine Dawg
08-20-2017, 02:34 PM
I still say an "early" signing period in December doesn't really change anything. If you want to change the process, the early period should be right around now, early-to-mid August. Let the kids who want to end their recruitment before they start their SR season do so.

Mutt the Hoople
08-20-2017, 05:51 PM
I agree, the future looks bright for us. We should be cautious though. Is the OM machine just going to sit idle for the next few years? Are they going to stand by while we amass great recruiting classes? Keep in mind that for a few of their boosters (no, not all - I know many good and decent OM folks), their self worth hinges on being able to look down on others, to believe they are superior to someone, anyone. I expect the machine to be retooled to steer potential MSU recruits away to any other team. I expect them to spend large quantities of cash on private investigators to try and catch us cheating, and to hire others to create the appearance of cheating. They will stop at nothing to bring us down to their level, because the one thing they cannot abide is to not have someone they can sneer at so they can feel better about themselves.

Sure, alt-Rebels coming after us. However, what they've shown the past year, what we've seen with their goings on, is that the average Ole Miss Reb Supremacist is dumber than a box of rocks. They're breathtakingly slack-jawed, unibrowed, window-licking, mushmouthed, talk-like-they-have-a-piece-of-shit-in-their-mouth stupid. Sure, they can try to find dirt on The Mississippi State University. In the end, they'll be making Wile E. Coyote look like a brilliant mastermind.

In the past, what Reb Supremacists had over The Mississippi State University and their fans is that they are utterly ruthless. Plus we had a bunch of namby-pamby, go-along-to-get-along, Vichy alt-Bulldogs like Larry Templeton as AD and Charles Lee as President. NOW, The Mississippi State University has politically-connected Mark Keenum as President and hard-nosed, wily John Cohen as Athletic Director....THEY aren't going to roll over and throw our head coach under the bus the way Vichy Bulldogs did to Jackie Sherrill.

Reb Supremacists tried to intimidate two of our recruits with threats of Lynching their college eligibility...but this time, we threw that shit RIGHT BACK IN THEIR FACE. Their boosters are weak and woman-like, and deserve the scorn they're getting from the National Media.