Chauncey Rivers

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I just read on twitter where Cole has to RS and Rivers might have to as well due to some rule. That would be a huge blow if true. What's going on?

[ShotgunDawg]

Everyone needs to keep their fingers crossed that Rivers doesn't take an academic redshirt like Cole.

There are rumors flying this morning from Rosebowl on Bo Bounds & others that this could be coming down the pipe.

Not sure why this has just now become an issue at EMCC. Odd situation & would be a bad blow to our football team.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yes we're cautiously optimistic that we will be allowed to play but won't know for sure probably until sometime next week.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Yes we're cautiously optimistic that we will be allowed to play but won't know for sure probably until sometime next week.

Is that why the depth chart and roster have been delayed?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Is there a problem with Suggs too?

[Todd4State]

Is that why the depth chart and roster have been delayed?

My guess on that is they are waiting to see if Richardson qualifies or not. We should know that next week.

[ShotgunDawg]

Yes we're cautiously optimistic that we will be allowed to play but won't know for sure probably until sometime next week.

Yikes... that's scary.

I never cease to be amazed at how slow the NCAA clearinghouse works.

It's just incredible to me that, after signing in December last year, they haven't worked this out yet

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Is there a problem with Suggs too?

Even if there is he's a RS guy anyway. Cam Dantzler had the same situation last year.

[Todd4State]

Yikes... that's scary.

I never cease to be amazed at how slow the NCAA clearinghouse works.

It's just incredible to me that, after signing in December last year, they haven't worked this out yet

A lot of this has to be on EMCC. Especially for two guys that qualified at other schools coming out of high school.

[ShotgunDawg]

What the heck were Buddy & Brittany Wagner doing?

Two guys that qualify out of high school have to academic redshirt after going to JUCO?

Doesn't make any sense

[fader2103]

Britt is no longer at emcc

[Mobile Bay]

What the heck were Buddy & Brittany Wagner doing?

Two guys that qualify out of high school have to academic redshirt after going to JUCO?

Doesn't make any sense

Wagner left a while ago.

[Shake 'n Bake]

If you watched last chance u season 2, she was most definitely still there when these two got out in december

[Dawgtini]

Everyone needs to keep their fingers crossed that Rivers doesn't take an academic redshirt like Cole.

There are rumors flying this morning from Rosebowl on Bo Bounds & others that this could be coming down the pipe.

Not sure why this has just now become an issue at EMCC. Odd situation & would be a bad blow to our football team.

Only happens with EMCC kids who don't go to TSUN ***

[ShotgunDawg]

Wagner left a while ago.

She was mostly definitely in Last Chance U when Rivers & Cole were there.

[starkvegasdawg]

Yikes... that's scary.

I never cease to be amazed at how slow the NCAA clearinghouse works.

It's just incredible to me that, after signing in December last year, they haven't worked this out yet

Had he committed to Bama he would have been cleared months ago.

[ShotgunDawg]

Had he committed to Bama he would have been cleared months ago.

My perception of the NCAA Clearinghouse Office

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[Bothrops]

They are as bad as the Federal government.

[Johnson85]

A lot of this has to be on EMCC. Especially for two guys that qualified at other schools coming out of high school.

That seems like crazy incompetence. I can understand some uncertainty trying to transfer somebody to an out of state school because they may not have agreements as far as what classes count for what, but how the hell do you have somebody from EMCC not know whether they've done enough to qualify at MSU or any of the instate universities?

[JDog13]

What the heck were Buddy & Brittany Wagner doing?


Wagner was too busy looking in the mirror and worrying about pencils.

[GoDawgz]

I remember watching and got the impression that Chauncey's grades were never an issue. Crazy

[Dawgs87]

I remember watching and got the impression that Chauncey's grades were never an issue. Crazy

Must've been the part where Kam Carter said, "Chauncey smart as 17, dog."

[msstate7]

I wish co Lin would use this as ammo to get some higher rated transfers in.

I.e. Don't go to emcc... they can't get you qualified

[Turfdawg67]

Yikes... that's scary.

I never cease to be amazed at how slow the NCAA clearinghouse works.

It's just incredible to me that, after signing in December last year, they haven't worked this out yet

Hey, cut them some slack! The entire NCAA had to be used in Oxford for the last 4 years!!

[GoDawgz]

Must've been the part where Kam Carter said, "Chauncey smart as 17, dog."

Exactly! But Wagner never had conversations with Rivers about his grades....at least not in the documentary.

[Perpetual Underachiever]

Someone is incompetent, so who is it? EMCC or MSU? How the 17 does this happen?

[Perpetual Underachiever]

Wagner was too busy looking in the mirror and worrying about pencils.

Single Mom's need loving too

[Dawgtini]

Wagner was too busy looking in the mirror and worrying about pencils.

I heard she was worried about a dead rabbit

[msbulldog]

I may be wrong here but I read or heard somewhere the issue is too many hours in too short of a time. Mullen said there is some kind of new rule for Juco playes that was instituted 2 years ago. In the last episode of Last Chance U, a player was trying to get a last minute on-line course. I suppose they have to try and get those hours quick so they can enroll in January at D1 schools. This makes me think back to Donte Jones the basketball player, who was on MSU's Final Four team. He got some unreal number of hours the summer before he enrolled at State, something like 90 hours.

[JDog13]

Single Mom's need loving too

I hear that's not a problem

[MetEdDawg]

I may be wrong here but I read or heard somewhere the issue is too many hours in too short of a time. Mullen said there is some kind of new rule for Juco playes that was instituted 2 years ago. In the last episode of Last Chance U, a player was trying to get a last minute on-line course. I suppose they have to try and get those hours quick so they can enroll in January at D1 schools. This makes me think back to Donte Jones the basketball player, who was on MSU's Final Four team. He got some unreal number of hours the summer before he enrolled at State, something like 90 hours.

Yeah there has had to be a lot of changes with that. You can do summer classes so easily now that folks were doing like 8-10 classes worth of remediation in one summer and getting qualified. As a high school teacher that's obviously undermining to what we do in the classroom, but it's also ridiculous to think someone could learn, with a reasonable degree of knowledge, 8-10 classes worth of material in a couple months.

And what passes for an online class can sometimes be very murky. The NCAA has tightened their acceptance of those classes significantly over the past few years.

[Tbonewannabe]

I may be wrong here but I read or heard somewhere the issue is too many hours in too short of a time. Mullen said there is some kind of new rule for Juco playes that was instituted 2 years ago. In the last episode of Last Chance U, a player was trying to get a last minute on-line course. I suppose they have to try and get those hours quick so they can enroll in January at D1 schools. This makes me think back to Donte Jones the basketball player, who was on MSU's Final Four team. He got some unreal number of hours the summer before he enrolled at State, something like 90 hours.

I think it was around 36 hours which a lot of those hours were actually from USM. You can't transfer more than half what it takes for your degree and it is around 60 hours to "graduate" from Juco. There is also the new progression rules for NCAA where you have to be working towards a degree. You can't just take a bunch of freshman classes to stay eligible but it also doesn't allow you to change your degree if it is going to set you back. I have a friend that played under Jackie who wanted to change from a Biology track to Accounting. He was able to get the degree where you combine majors instead. It was something like Marketing/Biology because the Accounting level classes would have pushed him back a year.

[msbulldog]

I think it was around 36 hours which a lot of those hours were actually from USM. You can't transfer more than half what it takes for your degree and it is around 60 hours to "graduate" from Juco. There is also the new progression rules for NCAA where you have to be working towards a degree. You can't just take a bunch of freshman classes to stay eligible but it also doesn't allow you to change your degree if it is going to set you back. I have a friend that played under Jackie who wanted to change from a Biology track to Accounting. He was able to get the degree where you combine majors instead. It was something like Marketing/Biology because the Accounting level classes would have pushed him back a year.

I'm sure your'e probably right, that's been a while back.

[Johnson85]

I may be wrong here but I read or heard somewhere the issue is too many hours in too short of a time. Mullen said there is some kind of new rule for Juco playes that was instituted 2 years ago. In the last episode of Last Chance U, a player was trying to get a last minute on-line course. I suppose they have to try and get those hours quick so they can enroll in January at D1 schools. This makes me think back to Donte Jones the basketball player, who was on MSU's Final Four team. He got some unreal number of hours the summer before he enrolled at State, something like 27 hours.

Basically a little more than double what would count as full-time summer enrollee. NCAA passed essentially the Donte Jones rule that limited how many hours you could get in a summer i think. Then later they had to go back and implement a rule regarding how many hours could come from correspondence courses because of players having a suspicious number of their hours coming from correspondence (that rule may have finally been triggered by an ole miss player I think?)