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iPat09
08-16-2017, 10:22 AM
Was talking about? He just RT the article.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hugh-freezes-ouster-at-ole-miss-linked-to-multiple-recruiting-trips-1502896100

CarolinaDawgs
08-16-2017, 10:26 AM
Cliff Notes for us non-subscribers.

iPat09
08-16-2017, 10:29 AM
Odd. I'm not a subscriber but was able to read the whole thing.

Wall Street Journal saying they have obtained flight records showing Freeze was in Tampa on a recruiting trip the day he made the infamous call. Last I had heard, it was believed he wasn't in Tampa at that time.

DancingRabbit
08-16-2017, 10:36 AM
Odd. I'm not a subscriber but was able to read the whole thing.

Wall Street Journal saying they have obtained flight records showing Freeze was in Tampa on a recruiting trip the day he made the infamous call. Last I had heard, it was believed he wasn't in Tampa at that time.

Yeah, that caught my attention too. I thought the West Lot Pirates bloggers had shown Hugh was in Oxford when the call was made.

https://westlotpirates.com/2017/07/22/freeze-ing-in-tampa/

BrunswickDawg
08-16-2017, 10:42 AM
Odd. I'm not a subscriber but was able to read the whole thing.

Wall Street Journal saying they have obtained flight records showing Freeze was in Tampa on a recruiting trip the day he made the infamous call. Last I had heard, it was believed he wasn't in Tampa at that time.

So, kept his rabbit hunting trips secret (or at least out of the public eye of social media), while using university resources to do so. That sound's about right.

Dawg61
08-16-2017, 10:50 AM
Think they had him in D.C. based on his tweets and then flying back to Oxford later that day. Sounds like Freeze was intentionally throwing out false location tweets. What a ****ing weirdo

iPat09
08-16-2017, 10:53 AM
Article also mentions there were other members of the athletic staff on the plane at different times during this 5 day recruiting trip to multiple cities.

stalkingpoon
08-16-2017, 11:01 AM
https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi/wall-street-journal-report-inappropriate-hugh-freeze-phone-calls-linked-multiple-recruiting-trips

EAVdog
08-16-2017, 11:01 AM
Think they had him in D.C. based on his tweets and then flying back to Oxford later that day. Sounds like Freeze was intentionally throwing out false location tweets. What a ****ing weirdo

Easily could have had an assistant tweeting out scheduled bible verses.

regdawg18
08-16-2017, 11:03 AM
Yeah, that caught my attention too. I thought the West Lot Pirates bloggers had shown Hugh was in Oxford when the call was made.

https://westlotpirates.com/2017/07/22/freeze-ing-in-tampa/

The WSJ article says the call was made on Jan. 19th (and also that Freeze was in Tampa on the 19th) but We Lot of Pirates says it was made on Jan 21.

When was the call made?

Dawg61
08-16-2017, 11:04 AM
Easily could have had an assistant tweeting out scheduled bible verses.

I am sure he did but these tweets he was being specific about being in D.C. drinking coffee or something like that.

stalkingpoon
08-16-2017, 11:06 AM
From the SEC Country article
Ole Miss athletic director Ross Bjork said in response to questions from the Journal about Freeze’s travel that the university’s investigation uncovered “calls of a similar nature” over the course of several years, often matching up with travel logs showing the coach’s use of the school plane. The school said it examined his travel logs from peak recruiting times—often November, December and January—when Freeze would travel out of state, using the school plane and other public resources.

“When we say pattern, we are describing other phone numbers that when you Google them pull up similar type websites, services, however you would describe them,” Bjork said. “We took action swiftly.”

Riotous Thinking
08-16-2017, 11:11 AM
How was the WSJ able to obtain enough of the phone records to piece all this together? I though OM was still denying those records to Mars.

mparkerfd20
08-16-2017, 11:11 AM
I'm calling bullshit. This is more spin by Ole Miss to cover up that he was calling them for recruits.

LockeDawg
08-16-2017, 11:16 AM
From the SEC Country article
Ole Miss athletic director Ross Bjork said in response to questions from the Journal about Freeze’s travel that the university’s investigation uncovered “calls of a similar nature” over the course of several years, often matching up with travel logs showing the coach’s use of the school plane. The school said it examined his travel logs from peak recruiting times—often November, December and January—when Freeze would travel out of state, using the school plane and other public resources.

“When we say pattern, we are describing other phone numbers that when you Google them pull up similar type websites, services, however you would describe them,” Bjork said. “We took action swiftly.”

They took action swiftly AFTER they were about to be freaking outted by Mars.

Bully75
08-16-2017, 11:23 AM
I'm calling bullshit. This is more spin by Ole Miss to cover up that he was calling them for recruits.

I tend to agree. No doubt they were lining up hookers for recruits from statements made "off record" by some that were recruited..............

Riotous Thinking
08-16-2017, 11:29 AM
How was the WSJ able to obtain enough of the phone records to piece all this together? I though OM was still denying those records to Mars.

Need to work on my reading comprehension. So Bdork basically threw Freeze onto the I-55 / I-20 interchange to let him get mowed over by traffic.

Commercecomet24
08-16-2017, 11:30 AM
I'm calling bullshit. This is more spin by Ole Miss to cover up that he was calling them for recruits.

This! They're gonna try to paint freeze as a sex addic/ freak to try to cover the real reason for the hookers, recruits!

AlSwearengen
08-16-2017, 11:32 AM
Have we checked to see if olemiss has an alum or friend of the university on staff at the WSJ?

Dallas_Dawg
08-16-2017, 11:33 AM
The last paragraph of One of the articles states that the hooker calls were made around peak recruiting times.
Not a good look for hookers***

TrapGame
08-16-2017, 11:51 AM
So, Freeze only called hookers at the peak of recruiting season in whatever town he was in? Bullshit. If he really is a sex addict those calls would be all year long and not just at the "peak of recruiting season".

Todd4State
08-16-2017, 11:57 AM
As far as Freeze's Twitter account I had heard that Ole Miss had someone else running it for him.

lefty96
08-16-2017, 12:07 PM
I still say the 3rd option on all of this is most likely - Freeze used the hookers for himself AND recruits.

THE Bruce Dickinson
08-16-2017, 12:08 PM
I don't buy it.

So if he was in DC and he is the addict everyone from OM seems to be claiming, then why wouldn't he just call an escort service in DC? Instead he calls a service in Tampa, and then secretly goes to Florida to meet up with this girl(?), and then heads back home to Oxford? That doesn't add up.

There is always the possibility that he had a specific girl(?) in Tampa that he was carrying on with, but that would make the "pattern of behavior" narrative from Bjork seem flimsy.

Those hookers were for recruits folks.

Political Hack
08-16-2017, 12:09 PM
He was in Tampa and his assistants were with him at various points during that trip. And the "pattern" followed recruiting trips taken on the university plane.

Nothing really new.

BeastMan
08-16-2017, 12:10 PM
I'm calling bullshit. This is more spin by Ole Miss to cover up that he was calling them for recruits.

So you think the WSJ is spinning for Ole Miss? Taking that a step further you're saying OM falsified flight records and travel records to show Freeze called prostitutes?

BeastMan
08-16-2017, 12:12 PM
So, Freeze only called hookers at the peak of recruiting season in whatever town he was in? Bullshit. If he really is a sex addict those calls would be all year long and not just at the "peak of recruiting season".

It's also very feasible dude was a coose hound and was knocking down hookers every time he was away from home which was most frequent during recruiting season. Hell, how many televangelist have gone down for the same thing?

LockeDawg
08-16-2017, 12:20 PM
It's also very feasible dude was a coose hound and was knocking down hookers every time he was away from home which was most frequent during recruiting season. Hell, how many televangelist have gone down for the same thing?

Well, folks have obviously researched Barney's phone records. He and Freeze worked closely as the lead recruiters. So, if Freeze was pimping for his players and getting them serviced during heavy recruiting periods, then ole Barn was notified and involved as well. I mean Barney ran the operation, orchestrated travel/lodging/meals/clothing benefits, etc..... If he was so intricately involved in arranging comforts for the SA's, then I'm sure he facilitated the hookers as well.

Political Hack
08-16-2017, 12:27 PM
I don't buy it.

So if he was in DC and he is the addict everyone from OM seems to be claiming, then why wouldn't he just call an escort service in DC? Instead he calls a service in Tampa, and then secretly goes to Florida to meet up with this girl(?), and then heads back home to Oxford? That doesn't add up.

There is always the possibility that he had a specific girl(?) in Tampa that he was carrying on with, but that would make the "pattern of behavior" narrative from Bjork seem flimsy.

Those hookers were for recruits folks.

The person who runs his twitter account was allegedly in DC. Rumored to be a lady. Don't know who, but there's speculation that he never operated his own twitter account.

Coldsleeve Jr.
08-16-2017, 12:32 PM
Maybe Im misreading, but I see nothing in that article that makes me think the hookers were for Freeze. Reading between the lines, they were clearly for croots.

I never believed they were for HF anyway. With his salary I dont think he would need to go to backpage.com or craigslist to get a lady of the night.

TrapGame
08-16-2017, 12:38 PM
The person who runs his twitter account was allegedly in DC. Rumored to be a lady. Don't know who, but there's speculation that he never operated his own twitter account.

Wut?!

So all those meaningful Bible verses that helped "win the day" were all from a professional Twitter handler?

BeastMan
08-16-2017, 12:38 PM
Maybe Im misreading, but I see nothing in that article that makes me think the hookers were for Freeze. Reading between the lines, they were clearly for croots.

I never believed they were for HF anyway. With his salary I dont think he would need to go to backpage.com or craigslist to get a lady of the night.

With the big religious types, it's always hookers. They are portraying a fake image and want to protect it. You think Freeze is going to go down to the local watering hole and run game until he gets a taker to leave with him? Ya, I'm totally sure no one would take a pic and run to social media with that...

TrapGame
08-16-2017, 12:40 PM
It's also very feasible dude was a coose hound and was knocking down hookers every time he was away from home which was most frequent during recruiting season. Hell, how many televangelist have gone down for the same thing?

If he had the hots for young escorts then it would have been all the time.

BeastMan
08-16-2017, 12:43 PM
Guys, ladies for recruits has been going on since Moses. Head coaches are not the ones setting that up. It would be a guy like the booster from Raleigh, Keyes or something. I'm NOT accusing him of supplying ladies to recruits but that's the profile of a guy who would help provide something like that. A low-level grunts. And it would happen on OVs or UVs. When Freeze is visiting kids on the road he's meeting them with their coaches or parents. He ain't bringing hookers to the school or the living room. It's ludacris.

BeastMan
08-16-2017, 12:44 PM
If he had the hots for young escorts then it would have been all the time.

Acting on impulse is often directly tied to opportunity. Even Tiger Woods wasn't slaying in his own house. It was traveling.

biggun
08-16-2017, 12:44 PM
So, Freeze only called hookers at the peak of recruiting season in whatever town he was in? Bullshit. If he really is a sex addict those calls would be all year long and not just at the "peak of recruiting season".

Bingo, you nailed it!!! And It's borderline criminal that our state newspaper, the Clarion Ledger, is not rigorously investigating this complete and utter BS coverup!!! Just plain wrong.......

notsofarawaydawg
08-16-2017, 12:48 PM
As far as Freeze's Twitter account I had heard that Ole Miss had someone else running it for him.

Probably Archie himself. **

TrapGame
08-16-2017, 12:54 PM
Acting on impulse is often directly tied to opportunity. Even Tiger Woods wasn't slaying in his own house. It was traveling.

Freeze traveled during the summer. He would go to charity golf events. He would speak at other churches. Yet, nothing coincides with any of these times, just recruiting?

Sorry Beast, I ain't buying it.

BeastMan
08-16-2017, 01:00 PM
This is the craziest story in SEC coaching history and one of the biggest frauds of lifetime was exposed and that's not good enough for a lot of y'all. Y'all want it to be a minor prostitution ring. Come on

somebodyshotmypaw
08-16-2017, 01:03 PM
Wut?!

So all those meaningful Bible verses that helped "win the day" were all from a professional Twitter handler?

Absolutely. Ole Miss and Freeze built a brand around the godly coach. And now it is crumbling down. Admittedly, we have also tried to build a brand around Mullen. It is no coincidence that our assistants talk about hard work, development, etc. Mullen realized the 5-star diva was going to be hard to pull to Starkville. So he advertises hard work and development. And the assistants do the same. They use that brand of the "People's university" to go recruit small town kids like Benardrick McKinney, Aeris Williams, etc.

Dolphus Raymond
08-16-2017, 01:09 PM
I'm with Beastman. Has Ole Miss provided pros. for recruits and those that have influence over them? I'm sure they have but no SEC HC is going to be the one that facilitates it. No way.
Freeze and Ole Miss are finished, but hookers for recruits will not be part of the cause of their collective demise.

mparkerfd20
08-16-2017, 01:17 PM
So you think the WSJ is spinning for Ole Miss? Taking that a step further you're saying OM falsified flight records and travel records to show Freeze called prostitutes?

So you're falling hook, line, and sinker for the Ole Miss spin that it's all for Hugh? All I'm saying is I don't buy that it was all for Hugh. The WSJ apparently has some visibility into the phone records OR they are simply taking Bjorks word for it. My bet is on the latter.

Not to mention this is only lining up during recruiting season? Again I say bullshit. Are you immune to the smell of bullshit or something?

Dawg-gone-dawgs
08-16-2017, 01:26 PM
I'm calling bullshit. This is more spin by Ole Miss to cover up that he was calling them for recruits.

^^ THIS!!!!

Dawg-gone-dawgs
08-16-2017, 01:26 PM
As far as Freeze's Twitter account I had heard that Ole Miss had someone else running it for him.



that's pretty typical for coaches

TrapGame
08-16-2017, 01:43 PM
This is the craziest story in SEC coaching history and one of the biggest frauds of lifetime was exposed and that's not good enough for a lot of y'all. Y'all want it to be a minor prostitution ring. Come on

He's got half a dozen side pieces from Oxford to Memphis but he's gonna set up hookers every week he's on the road too. Ain't enough Viagra and Vitamin E around to pull that off for 45 yr old man.

Or...maybe he just liked to talk. Maybe he just wanted to be held while he cried.

Reason2succeed
08-16-2017, 01:44 PM
Who is the author of the article and what is tbeir connection to OM? I don't remember the WSJ having a sports page that cared about SEC football.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
08-16-2017, 01:44 PM
Guys, ladies for recruits has been going on since Moses. Most, smart Head coaches are not the ones setting that up. It would be a guy like the booster from Raleigh, Keyes or something. I'm NOT accusing him of supplying ladies to recruits but that's the profile of a guy who would help provide something like that. A low-level grunts. And it would happen on OVs or UVs. When Freeze is visiting kids on the road he's meeting them with their coaches or parents. He ain't bringing hookers to the school or the living room. It's ludacris.

Freeze is an idiot and has proven it over and over again, so why think he's all of a sudden smart now? If he didn't set it up himself, he sure as hell approved it.

Ifyouonlyknew
08-16-2017, 01:46 PM
I don't buy the hookers for recruits either. So Freeze was busy making the rounds visiting prospects so he goes to the house with his assistants eats dinner, then tells the kid hey come take a ride with me. They pull up to the local Holiday Inn Express where "Becky" is in the room waiting for the kid. They tag team her & then head back to moms for some banana pudding. Which episode of Friday Night Lights is this?

Dawgbite
08-16-2017, 01:49 PM
Have yall ever looked at the man? Of course he had to pay for it. But I still think it was for recruits.

Dawgtini
08-16-2017, 01:51 PM
Episode 5520: Pop Goes the Freezer

Commercecomet24
08-16-2017, 01:51 PM
I believe it was both.

Martianlander
08-16-2017, 02:02 PM
God gave man a brain and a penis, but only enough blood to run one at a time.
Robin Williams

BeastMan
08-16-2017, 02:03 PM
So you're falling hook, line, and sinker for the Ole Miss spin that it's all for Hugh? All I'm saying is I don't buy that it was all for Hugh. The WSJ apparently has some visibility into the phone records OR they are simply taking Bjorks word for it. My bet is on the latter.

Not to mention this is only lining up during recruiting season? Again I say bullshit. Are you immune to the smell of bullshit or something?

Believing tangible facts posed by the WSJ in lieu of chasing wild fantasy rumors is falling for OM spin? Seriously?

Maroonthirteen
08-16-2017, 02:07 PM
The escorts may have been for the handlers of the recruits.. I'm inclined to believe anyone who would except a cash bribe to attend a college, would also except an offer of prepaid sex for their enjoyment.

Commercecomet24
08-16-2017, 02:11 PM
If the hookers were only for freeze why is unm fighting so hard to keep the phone records hidden?

TrapGame
08-16-2017, 02:13 PM
If the hookers were only for freeze why is unm fighting so hard to keep the phone records hidden?

There's gotta be something in there worse than hookers.

Coldsleeve Jr.
08-16-2017, 02:22 PM
With the big religious types, it's always hookers. They are portraying a fake image and want to protect it. You think Freeze is going to go down to the local watering hole and run game until he gets a taker to leave with him? Ya, I'm totally sure no one would take a pic and run to social media with that...

Yes, but Im saying the quality of hooker he can get with his salary does not come from ads on the internet. He could go to a much more prestigious pimp that specializes in hookers that keep their mouths shut (except when giving said services)

mparkerfd20
08-16-2017, 02:27 PM
Believing tangible facts posed by the WSJ in lieu of chasing wild fantasy rumors is falling for OM spin? Seriously?

Seriously.

Coldsleeve Jr.
08-16-2017, 02:35 PM
Guys, ladies for recruits has been going on since Moses. Head coaches are not the ones setting that up. It would be a guy like the booster from Raleigh, Keyes or something. I'm NOT accusing him of supplying ladies to recruits but that's the profile of a guy who would help provide something like that. A low-level grunts. And it would happen on OVs or UVs. When Freeze is visiting kids on the road he's meeting them with their coaches or parents. He ain't bringing hookers to the school or the living room. It's ludacris.

I dont think anyone is suggesting he's bringing the hookers with him on visits with parents. Its not that hard to visit a croot, ask where they will be that night, and arrange for a hooker to meet the croot. Say at a hotel, friend's house, etc.. I've never thought Freeze was in the room with them, or that he had ever met the hooker.

mstatefan91
08-16-2017, 02:37 PM
I don't buy the hookers for recruits either. So Freeze was busy making the rounds visiting prospects so he goes to the house with his assistants eats dinner, then tells the kid hey come take a ride with me. They pull up to the local Holiday Inn Express where "Becky" is in the room waiting for the kid. They tag team her & then head back to moms for some banana pudding. Which episode of Friday Night Lights is this?

I don't know, but I would pay to watch it.. I mean.. yeah....************

BeastMan
08-16-2017, 02:42 PM
Yes, but Im saying the quality of hooker he can get with his salary does not come from ads on the internet. He could go to a much more prestigious pimp that specializes in hookers that keep their mouths shut (except when giving said services)

Prestigious pimps? lol I've heard it all now...

BeastMan
08-16-2017, 02:45 PM
Seriously.

Rosebowl says it wasn't for recruits. WSJ has facts and evidence it was for Freeze. Since I'm just a moron falling for Rebel spin, please enlighten me with the facts that lead you to believe they were for recruits.... Let's keep it within the scope of Freeze on the road b/c that's what I'm talking about.

LockeDawg
08-16-2017, 02:47 PM
I'm with Beastman. Has Ole Miss provided pros. for recruits and those that have influence over them? I'm sure they have but no SEC HC is going to be the one that facilitates it. No way.
Freeze and Ole Miss are finished, but hookers for recruits will not be part of the cause of their collective demise.Who in their right mind would have EVER thought an ASSISTANT ATHLETIC DIRECTOR at the very core of the Athletic Department would be the engineer of an elaborate and widespread Booster/Player/Recruit scheme for years on end? Right under the nose of the Compliance Department, the Athletic Director, the Head Football Coach? Barney's operation was not only systematic but it was a well oiled machine that couldn't stop pumping out benefits & inducements even while the damn NCAA investigators were all up in their business. It is not outside the realm of possibility that Hugh Freeze was involved in setting up hookers for himself and some of the top shelf athletes he was drawing to the Groooove.

Coldsleeve Jr.
08-16-2017, 02:48 PM
Prestigious pimps? lol I've heard it all now...

You cant understand the difference bt a hooker on backpage.com vs. a hooker from Heidi Fleiss?

I suppose Eliot Spitzer was getting his side piece from craigslist too.

mstatefan91
08-16-2017, 02:49 PM
Patience. It will all come out. I don't have any inside info whatsoever.. but the way this goes.. we will have the full picture at some point. May be a month from now or may be a year from now.. I just know that OM has done a horrible job at containing the fire, and I don't expect them to temper this one.

LockeDawg
08-16-2017, 02:55 PM
You cant understand the difference bt a hooker on backpage.com vs. a hooker from Heidi Fleiss?

I suppose Eliot Spitzer was getting his side piece from craigslist too.

Some folks pay for top shelf liquor while others pay for the low grade swill from under the bar.

JoseBrown
08-16-2017, 02:58 PM
Rosebowl says it wasn't for recruits. WSJ has facts and evidence it was for Freeze. Since I'm just a moron falling for Rebel spin, please enlighten me with the facts that lead you to believe they were for recruits.... Let's keep it within the scope of Freeze on the road b/c that's what I'm talking about.

Rosebowl said there is no credible evidence at this point that they were for recruits. That was his official public thought as of yesterday.

Dawgbite
08-16-2017, 03:09 PM
Rosebowl said there is no credible evidence at this point that they were for recruits. That was his official public thought as of yesterday.

Every time I think that it can't get much worse for the Bears, a few days pass and something is revealed to prove me wrong. So if I weigh which is worse, hookers for the coach or hookers for recruits, recruits wins out every time. Based on this knowledge, the hookers were for recruits and I'm not betting against a dead one in a freezer somewhere because the Bears have yet to take the easy road in any of this. This whole ordeal is a textbook case of what not to do, 30 for 30 pthh! , this may be a mini series before its over.

mparkerfd20
08-16-2017, 03:11 PM
Rosebowl says it wasn't for recruits. WSJ has facts and evidence it was for Freeze. Since I'm just a moron falling for Rebel spin, please enlighten me with the facts that lead you to believe they were for recruits.... Let's keep it within the scope of Freeze on the road b/c that's what I'm talking about.

It'll all come out eventually. There's just more to the story than Freeze being a sexaholic.

JoseBrown
08-16-2017, 03:19 PM
Every time I think that it can't get much worse for the Bears, a few days pass and something is revealed to prove me wrong. So if I weigh which is worse, hookers for the coach or hookers for recruits, recruits wins out every time. Based on this knowledge, the hookers were for recruits and I'm not betting against a dead one in a freezer somewhere because the Bears have yet to take the easy road in any of this. This whole ordeal is a textbook case of what not to do, 30 for 30 pthh! , this may be a mini series before its over.

This entire investigation has been anything but normal, as we've seen with previous investigations. Some days I just can't believe the decisions I'm reading coming out of Oxpatch. That is one 'special' place, and I don't mean in a good way...

Turfdawg67
08-16-2017, 03:44 PM
You cant understand the difference bt a hooker on backpage.com vs. a hooker from Heidi Fleiss?

I suppose Eliot Spitzer was getting his side piece from craigslist too.

What is this backpage.com you speak of? Hmmmm?!? ***

Commercecomet24
08-16-2017, 04:27 PM
How bad off is unm when we are debating which is worse, hookers for head coach or hookers for recruits! That place has reached new levels of raunchiness with this whole mess!

DeviousDawg
08-16-2017, 04:43 PM
How bad off is unm when we are debating which is worse, hookers for head coach or hookers for recruits! That place has reached new levels of raunchiness with this whole mess!

And some are still waiting for "IT".

Things won't improve up North until they clean house, and that includes the AD department, complete football coaching staff, and the Boosters that have ran their program into the ground. What kind of idiots would make the interim HC someone who was named in the NOA? The people calling the shots are too stubborn/prideful/selfish to change anything, because they are scared to lose their post at the top of the shitbird tree. It's a virus up there, i feel sorry for the common man rebel, because their "leaders" have been feeding them bull shit for 3 years now. When you have people that don't actually hold a position calling the shots you can get stuck in a bad spot. It's not hard to see that Freeze, Bjork, and Vitter are just puppets, and I don't know if there is anyone with enough balls and power to call out the puppeteers. Sucks for them.

Mimi's Babies
08-16-2017, 04:47 PM
And some are still waiting for "IT".

Things won't improve up North until they clean house, and that includes the AD department, complete football coaching staff, and the Boosters that have ran their program into the ground. What kind of idiots would make the interim HC someone who was named in the NOA? The people calling the shots are too stubborn/prideful/selfish to change anything, because they are scared to lose their post at the top of the shitbird tree. It's a virus up there, i feel sorry for the common man rebel, because their "leaders" have been feeding them bull shit for 3 years now. When you have people that don't actually hold a position calling the shots you can get stuck in a bad spot. It's not hard to see that Freeze, Bjork, and Vitter are just puppets, and I don't know if there is anyone with enough balls and power to call out the puppeteers. Sucks for them.

I have a list of people and a business that are in the NOA and yet are not listed in the NOA Boosters list.... Anyone know why these names were over looked? One is "The INN @ Ole Miss"..... and Matt Luke.....

starkvegasdawg
08-16-2017, 04:55 PM
Rosebowl said there is no credible evidence at this point that they were for recruits. That was his official public thought as of yesterday.

He also downplayed the burner phones when that first broke here on ED, too. Maybe he didn't know at the time or maybe he was being very careful what he admitted to publicly.

Commercecomet24
08-16-2017, 05:15 PM
And some are still waiting for "IT".

Things won't improve up North until they clean house, and that includes the AD department, complete football coaching staff, and the Boosters that have ran their program into the ground. What kind of idiots would make the interim HC someone who was named in the NOA? The people calling the shots are too stubborn/prideful/selfish to change anything, because they are scared to lose their post at the top of the shitbird tree. It's a virus up there, i feel sorry for the common man rebel, because their "leaders" have been feeding them bull shit for 3 years now. When you have people that don't actually hold a position calling the shots you can get stuck in a bad spot. It's not hard to see that Freeze, Bjork, and Vitter are just puppets, and I don't know if there is anyone with enough balls and power to call out the puppeteers. Sucks for them.

Exactly! With each layer that's peeled off the rotten stench just gets worse!

1bigdawg
08-16-2017, 05:22 PM
And some are still waiting for "IT".

Things won't improve up North until they clean house, and that includes the AD department, complete football coaching staff, and the Boosters that have ran their program into the ground. What kind of idiots would make the interim HC someone who was named in the NOA? The people calling the shots are too stubborn/prideful/selfish to change anything, because they are scared to lose their post at the top of the shitbird tree. It's a virus up there, i feel sorry for the common man rebel, because their "leaders" have been feeding them bull shit for 3 years now. When you have people that don't actually hold a position calling the shots you can get stuck in a bad spot. It's not hard to see that Freeze, Bjork, and Vitter are just puppets, and I don't know if there is anyone with enough balls and power to call out the puppeteers. Sucks for them.

Luke is the only one they trust to be loyal.

Dawg61
08-16-2017, 05:22 PM
The person who runs his twitter account was allegedly in DC. Rumored to be a lady. Don't know who, but there's speculation that he never operated his own twitter account.

So all those clapbacks (twitter fights) he had were actually from some rando lady acting on her own accord and yet she kept that job after her first melt on twitter didn't get her fired. Or 2nd or 3rd or 4th etc...not buying it. Freeze had help at times on his account but he himself was also very active on his twitter as well. No other explanation can be possible with all the stupid petty acts being displayed on that account over five years time.

RougeDawg
08-16-2017, 05:27 PM
Rosebowl says it wasn't for recruits. WSJ has facts and evidence it was for Freeze. Since I'm just a moron falling for Rebel spin, please enlighten me with the facts that lead you to believe they were for recruits.... Let's keep it within the scope of Freeze on the road b/c that's what I'm talking about.

So you completely ignore the fact that Miller (step Pappa Tunsil) gave sworn statements that the fight began after he warned Laremy about the "money, HOOKERS, and fake agents/boosters"?

Or the fact we know Chris Jones had a GF paid for by OM boosters who was a Memphis call girl?

I'll give you a pass if you didn't know either of these. Otherwise, connect the dots.

Dawg61
08-16-2017, 05:46 PM
Everybody was ****ing hookers at Ole Miss from 2012 to right about yesterday. Coaches, players, recruits, boosters, alumni. All of them ****ing hookers brought in from out of state. Errrrrrrybody.

Hadn't thought of the dead hooker in the freezer theory but not eliminating that as a possibility right now. Maybe she smoked too much synthetic weed and tried to fly off a hotel.

TrapGame
08-16-2017, 06:07 PM
Everybody was ****ing hookers at Ole Miss from 2012 to right about yesterday. Coaches, players, recruits, boosters, alumni. All of them ****ing hookers brought in from out of state. Errrrrrrybody.

Hadn't thought of the dead hooker in the freezer theory but not eliminating that as a possibility right now. Maybe she smoked too much synthetic weed and tried to fly off a hotel.


The om spin machine will try to make her out as the Flying Nun.

RocketDawg
08-16-2017, 06:16 PM
The WSJ article says the call was made on Jan. 19th (and also that Freeze was in Tampa on the 19th) but We Lot of Pirates says it was made on Jan 21.

When was the call made?

For what it's worth, I think it's "West Lot Pirates", or westlotpirates.com

RocketDawg
08-16-2017, 06:18 PM
I am sure he did but these tweets he was being specific about being in D.C. drinking coffee or something like that.

True, and I somehow got the impression he was flying commercial on that trip. Is it possible that he wasn't on the university plane in Tampa? Of course, he could have had someone else doing his Tweeting for him.

RocketDawg
08-16-2017, 06:26 PM
Maybe Im misreading, but I see nothing in that article that makes me think the hookers were for Freeze. Reading between the lines, they were clearly for croots.

I never believed they were for HF anyway. With his salary I dont think he would need to go to backpage.com or craigslist to get a lady of the night.

But ... if they were not for personal use by Hugh, and he's totally innocent on the hooker call front, wouldn't a man who's so righteous as Hugh portrayed himself to be try to maintain his reputation regardless of how much money OM gave him? Of course, that supposition kinda calls flat even if he was calling them for recruits and not himself. To me, there's just something about the entire situation that doesn't add up. And he's said absolutely nothing in the past month. Shouldn't he be defending himself?

Dawg61
08-16-2017, 06:35 PM
True, and I somehow got the impression he was flying commercial on that trip. Is it possible that he wasn't on the university plane in Tampa? Of course, he could have had someone else doing his Tweeting for him.

I don't understand how he could be in Tampa on the 19th and D.C. on the 20th. There's no time to be ****ing a hooker if you have to be flying to DC in a couple hours. You'd **** her in DC instead. Think about that thought process.


–On 1/19/16–the original reported day of the escort call–there is no official record of where Freeze was. HOWEVER… –On 1/20/16, Freeze’s tweets and replies strongly suggest that he has been spending time with good and decent church-folk of Washington DC. He specifically references plans to visit the Ebenezer Coffee Shop in DC that day.

So inspired by @MarkBatterson and @NCC vision for Ebenezer Coffee shop in Washington, DC. Can’t wait to visit in the morning. #BucketList

— Hugh Freeze (@CoachHughFreeze) January 21, 2016

Mimi's Babies
08-16-2017, 06:49 PM
Luke is the only one they trust to be loyal.

Luke is NOT loyal.... he is DIRTY.... ask Rosebowl..... It's in his book.... or should be..... js

Maroon Wizardry
08-16-2017, 07:02 PM
I wonder how many of his players and recruits he is eskimo brothers with

Doxiedawg
08-16-2017, 07:07 PM
Bjork said the calls to escort services "often" matched up with travel logs.Who benefited from those calls which didn't match up?

FISHDAWG
08-16-2017, 09:00 PM
I don't buy it.

So if he was in DC and he is the addict everyone from OM seems to be claiming, then why wouldn't he just call an escort service in DC? Instead he calls a service in Tampa, and then secretly goes to Florida to meet up with this girl(?), and then heads back home to Oxford? That doesn't add up.

There is always the possibility that he had a specific girl(?) in Tampa that he was carrying on with, but that would make the "pattern of behavior" narrative from Bjork seem flimsy.

Those hookers were for recruits folks.

I think that Occum Razor guy might agree with you

Coldsleeve Jr.
08-16-2017, 10:32 PM
What is this backpage.com you speak of? Hmmmm?!? ***

Uhhhhh, I've only heard about it through friends**

But seriously, I have a single friend that regularly uses backpage for various services. His stories are pretty funny.

Bucky Dog
08-16-2017, 10:59 PM
But ... if they were not for personal use by Hugh, and he's totally innocent on the hooker call front, wouldn't a man who's so righteous as Hugh portrayed himself to be try to maintain his reputation regardless of how much money OM gave him? Of course, that supposition kinda calls flat even if he was calling them for recruits and not himself. To me, there's just something about the entire situation that doesn't add up. And he's said absolutely nothing in the past month. Shouldn't he be defending himself?

Here is what everyone needs to think about:

If ALL of these hookers were for Hugh then A) Why has he not come out in public with a confession, as a said man of God, to say he has failed his family and God, and asked for forgiveness, privacy and such while he tries to repair the damage he has done and own up to his problems? And B) why would his wife still be with him after banging all of these women as a pattern of a sex addict? No chance of coming back from that, i.e. Tiger Woods. Seriously, one indiscretion or affair is forgivable and can be worked though by a couple that loves each other. But this kind of shit, I'm out!

It smells of a cover up of silence for other things that just don't add up.

BrunswickDawg
08-17-2017, 06:23 AM
Everybody was ****ing hookers at Ole Miss from 2012 to right about yesterday. Coaches, players, recruits, boosters, alumni. All of them ****ing hookers brought in from out of state. Errrrrrrybody.

Hadn't thought of the dead hooker in the freezer theory but not eliminating that as a possibility right now. Maybe she smoked too much synthetic weed and tried to fly off a hotel.
She was leftover from when Craig James came to Oxford #CJK5H