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Bass Chaser
08-09-2017, 05:31 PM
So the location, date, and time of the COI Hearing is supposed to be confidential yet the dumb asses up north posted it on the internet.

http://athleticsworking.wp2.olemiss.edu/

ETA: The hearing panel is confidential as well but they left that in there.

Mobile Bay
08-09-2017, 05:36 PM
So the location, date, and time of the COI Hearing is supposed to be confidential yet the dumb asses up north posted it on the internet.

http://athleticsworking.wp2.olemiss.edu/

It literally says that two sentences later. They aren't very good at redacting things they need to, are they?

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
08-09-2017, 05:40 PM
When assistant coaches are called before the COI, what does that mean? Does that mean they are up for punishment?

#660000
08-09-2017, 05:53 PM
Confidentiality
You are reminded that NCAA Bylaw 19.01.3 requires that all infractions-related information such as location, date/time, panel identification and involved parties remain confidential throughout the infractions process. See also Division I COI IOP 4-1 Confidentiality. This includes, among other things, the substance of the case, panel identification and involved parties.

`\_(ツ)_/`

SailingDawg
08-09-2017, 07:24 PM
Are we positive that Leo has been called to appear before the committee? Could be a troll job by the rebs.

WSOPdawg
08-09-2017, 07:31 PM
Are we positive that Leo has been called to appear before the committee? Could be a troll job by the rebs.

The only thing I see regarding Leo is how credible the NCAA views him and I doubt very seriously if he is at the hearing.

Dawgology
08-09-2017, 07:51 PM
We have heard nothing about Leo being required at the COI except from the ever reliable Ole Miss "sources". Which was parroted by their friendly media. You know...the ones that have been wrong through all of this.

redstickdawg
08-09-2017, 08:04 PM
It is really incredible how arrogant posting the names of the COI members and the location of the hearing is, really demonstrates the total FU to the NCAA from the shitbirds. Hopefully this will factor into the sanctioning judgements, are they really trying to get the DP?
I can see 4-6 years probation and a like number of years bowl ban and possibly limited to 10-12 schollies a year, essentially a slow wait on death row..

Coackjek
08-09-2017, 08:18 PM
Mars might want reconsider having the OM legal department review the phone records. It could be 25k well spent.

MedDawg
08-09-2017, 08:54 PM
So the location, date, and time of the COI Hearing is supposed to be confidential yet the dumb asses up north posted it on the internet.

http://athleticsworking.wp2.olemiss.edu/

ETA: The hearing panel is confidential as well but they left that in there.

They have to let the their people know where to send the escorts so they can get a favorable ruling.

WSOPdawg
08-09-2017, 09:37 PM
It is really incredible how arrogant posting the names of the COI members and the location of the hearing is, really demonstrates the total FU to the NCAA from the shitbirds. Hopefully this will factor into the sanctioning judgements, are they really trying to get the DP?
I can see 4-6 years probation and a like number of years bowl ban and possibly limited to 10-12 schollies a year, essentially a slow wait on death row..

Agree. There's the penalties the NCAA can actually administer relative to the violations, and then there's the violation(s) of keeping private the names of SA #39 & #40 and the COI member names as well as the total lack of honesty so as to allow young people to make well-informed decisions regarding their future academic and athletic careers, which should ensure an Aggravated degree to the Level I's.

When all is said and done, the NCAA is gonna make sure the rest of Division I knows that SUCCESSFULLY managing future investigations is NOT to be performed using the TCUN method-of-death.

HSVDawg
08-09-2017, 09:44 PM
The only thing I see regarding Leo is how credible the NCAA views him and I doubt very seriously if he is at the hearing.

It says in bold print that the NCAA expects the hearing to take two to three full days. Given that the NCAA has an active interest in the welfare of current student athletes, no way they are gonna make him miss 3 days of class immediately after a game weekend to attend. He may be summoned to Skype in for an hour or two during the portion that is pertinent to his testimony, but that will be the extent if it. No way he attends in person.

Bubb Rubb
08-09-2017, 09:54 PM
It says in bold print that the NCAA expects the hearing to take two to three full days. Given that the NCAA has an active interest in the welfare of current student athletes, no way they are gonna make him miss 3 days of class immediately after a game weekend to attend. He may be summoned to Skype in for an hour or two during the portion that is pertinent to his testimony, but that will be the extent if it. No way he attends in person.

I don't think he will be asked to participate at all. The response leaves no room for doubt that Leo was credible. I think him going to the coi is yet another bear controlled media lie.

PMDawg
08-09-2017, 10:01 PM
Good Gosh, these idiots can't do ANYTHING right. LOL

Mimi's Babies
08-09-2017, 10:06 PM
Mars might want reconsider having the OM legal department review the phone records. It could be 25k well spent.

I will VOLUNTEER my time to help sort through those phone records..... My time well spent....

Westdawg
08-09-2017, 10:34 PM
Literally ANOTHER INFRACTION COMMITTED while doing all of this.....
You know that the COI and the powers-that-be in the SEC and NCAA offices are royally pissed off about this one. This was not an "accident". And not an isolated one, either. They already outed an SA in their previous release of the NOA, now this.
Honestly, I think their administration knows they are looking at a possible DEATH PENALTY, and are saying " TO HECK WITH IT, let's burn this HOUSE down and make their (NCAA) life miserable. That'll show 'em".
They know it's coming , maybe not this round, but once the phone records go public,it's gonna all be shut down, so they are just destroying every one and thing as they go - lying, screaming, deflecting, maiming, defaming, etc , all the way to the bottom.

starkvegasdawg
08-09-2017, 10:37 PM
It literally says that two sentences later. They aren't very good at redacting things they need to, are they?
Just booster names.

Spiderman
08-09-2017, 10:40 PM
It says in bold print that the NCAA expects the hearing to take two to three full days. Given that the NCAA has an active interest in the welfare of current student athletes, no way they are gonna make him miss 3 days of class immediately after a game weekend to attend. He may be summoned to Skype in for an hour or two during the portion that is pertinent to his testimony, but that will be the extent if it. No way he attends in person.


The only people mentioned in the letter to Ole Miss will be anyone employed or enrolled at OM.

Barney, Kiffin, Freeze, and (if required to be there) Leo would all get separate letters

DawgPoundtheRock
08-09-2017, 10:53 PM
What if the letter being posted on the internet wasn't a mistake? (More mistakes being made). Could it be another delaying tactic?

"Oh, Mr. NCAA, we are so sorry that the letter was inadvertently posted on the internet. We realize that the date, time and location of the COI hearing was to remain confidential, but an over-eager underling in an effort at total transparency mistakenly posted that highly confidential missive for all the world to see. We would suggest rescheduling the hearing until a later date, perhaps April of 2018 or 2019."

mstatefan91
08-09-2017, 10:57 PM
What if the letter being posted on the internet wasn't a mistake? (More mistakes being made). Could it be another delaying tactic?

"Oh, Mr. NCAA, we are so sorry that the letter was inadvertently posted on the internet. We realize that the date, time and location of the COI hearing was to remain confidential, but an over-eager underling in an effort at total transparency mistakenly posted that highly confidential missive for all the world to see. We would suggest rescheduling the hearing until a later date, perhaps April of 2018 or 2019."

This is what I was wondering

Ifyouonlyknew
08-09-2017, 11:12 PM
Why would they want to delay this more? They've lost a HC & their recruiting is middle of the pack Sun Belt. The program is in limbo until this is completed. They've done what they wanted get into this season without players transferring. They want this over now.

Todd4State
08-09-2017, 11:28 PM
Why would they want to delay this more? They've lost a HC & their recruiting is middle of the pack Sun Belt. The program is in limbo until this is completed. They've done what they wanted get into this season without players transferring. They want this over now.

The only thing that makes any remote sense is they want to hang on to the 2016 class guys as long as possible and hope that they win enough games to help them weather the storm.

In the long run it's not going to work.

ckDOG
08-09-2017, 11:32 PM
Can't see how outing the panel members helps them. The case is teed up for the COI. Any unbiased party following this knows they should be hammered based on the facts established and the penalty matrix. If they go light, then the general public has a list of folks to blame for the NCAA being a useless organization when it comes to enforcing their rules.

Reason2succeed
08-10-2017, 07:57 AM
As a reminder, the panel consists of the following individuals:

Dr. Carol Cartwright, president emerita, Kent State and Bowling Green State Universities;

Greg Christopher, director of athletics, Xavier University and chief hearing officer;

Bobby Cremins, former head men's basketball coach, Georgia Tech and College of Charleston;

Joel Maturi, retired director of athletics, University of Minnesota, Twin Cities;

Ms. Eleanor Myers, associate professor of law
emerita and interim associate dean for students, Temple University;

Mr. Larry Parkinson, director, Office of Enforcement, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, public member, Washington, D.C.;

and Ms. Jill Pilgrim, attorney and co-founder of Precise Advisory Group, public member, New York, New York.


These are the people who could potentially hand down OM's death penalty. Maybe OM wanted to leak their names in order to potentially intimidate them from dropping the hammer. Their names are public and OM's fanbase is institutionally crazy.

Political Hack
08-10-2017, 08:09 AM
It literally says that two sentences later. They aren't very good at redacting things they need to, are they?

To be fair, they give all the NCAA rules and federal laws protecting student privacy equivalent treatment.

FISHDAWG
08-10-2017, 08:11 AM
9/11 ... how ironically fitting ..... looks like Vitter might be taken out back to the wood shed as well :

Institution's Representatives

In accordance with NCAA Bylaw 19.7.7.5.2, the panel expects that you, as the chief executive officer of an institution involved in potential violations of NCAA legislation, will attend the hearing to present your views on presidential control and the institution's commitment to compliance.

MSUDawg99
08-10-2017, 09:39 AM
As a reminder, the panel consists of the following individuals:

Dr. Carol Cartwright, president emerita, Kent State and Bowling Green State Universities;

Greg Christopher, director of athletics, Xavier University and chief hearing officer;

Bobby Cremins, former head men's basketball coach, Georgia Tech and College of Charleston;

Joel Maturi, retired director of athletics, University of Minnesota, Twin Cities;

Ms. Eleanor Myers, associate professor of law
emerita and interim associate dean for students, Temple University;

Mr. Larry Parkinson, director, Office of Enforcement, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, public member, Washington, D.C.;

and Ms. Jill Pilgrim, attorney and co-founder of Precise Advisory Group, public member, New York, New York.


These are the people who could potentially hand down OM's death penalty. Maybe OM wanted to leak their names in order to potentially intimidate them from dropping the hammer. Their names are public and OM's fanbase is institutionally crazy.

Which one of these is Mullen BFF's with? He has to know one of them, right? Cause you know that'll be a spin tactic that the bearsharts try to use. Oh UMess, you're in such a mess!

Lord McBuckethead
08-10-2017, 12:16 PM
If it had to be one, I would say Mullen would have the best chance to have history with Carol Cartwright. Both may have been at Boiling Green together. Waiting for UM to start this rumor........

Mimi's Babies
08-10-2017, 12:27 PM
To be fair, they give all the NCAA rules and federal laws protecting student privacy equivalent treatment.

https://twitter.com/ScoutSteveR/status/895502930236895232

Spiderman
08-10-2017, 01:12 PM
https://twitter.com/ScoutSteveR/status/895502930236895232

But they could have redacted meeting place and location. COI members are pretty much public knowledge.

They absolutely could have redacted the time and place

starkvegasdawg
08-10-2017, 01:17 PM
But they could have redacted meeting place and location. COI members are pretty much public knowledge.

They absolutely could have redacted the time and place
But then all the bear crazies couldn't have booked all the rooms and been there to "support" their school in this, their time of great betrayal.