Clarion Ledger

[Dawg61]

it out of control. Putting our freshman RB on the front page over a speeding ticket is absurd!! When is someone like Keenum gonna do something about this huge ongoing problem MSU has with the Clarion Ledger????????

[TrapGame]

Desperate to get clicks away from om's troubles. It's a shitty story. Journalism degrees from om are about as useless as law degrees these days.

[Reason2succeed]

I know it's never going to happen because we play with kid gloves but we ought to at least threaten to limit their access until we feel that coverage is nonbiased. It sounds like Hugh Freeze was calling and harassing media during his time. Why can't we make sure we are dealt with fairly.

[Ari Gold]

not surprising at all.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

it out of control. Putting our freshman RB on the front page over a speeding ticket is absurd!! When is someone like Keenum gonna do something about this huge ongoing problem MSU has with the Clarion Ledger????????

I agree. It has gotten way out of hand and it is really obvious what is going on.

[Bothrops]

They're going to print what they want. This window cleaning item won't be around in paper form any longer once OM gets back on their feet. Think they don't know it...

[vv83]

So did they put the two shoplifters on the front page? If not then this is just absurd

[regdawg18]

it out of control. Putting our freshman RB on the front page over a speeding ticket is absurd!! When is someone like Keenum gonna do something about this huge ongoing problem MSU has with the Clarion Ledger????????

Is it illegal for members of the media to accept bribes for favorable coverage?

[TheRef]

Is it illegal for members of the media to accept bribes for favorable coverage?

Not illegal, but unethical af

[Reason2succeed]

Not illegal, but unethical af

OM grad says "Ethics?!? Haha, what in the heck is that? At OM we don't give preferential treatment to ethnics. Hotty Toddy!"

[MSUDawg99]

So did they put the two shoplifters on the front page? If not then this is just absurd

Beat me to the punch

[ScottH]

When is someone like Keenum gonna do something about this huge ongoing problem MSU has with the Clarion Ledger????????

Unfortunately, Keenum has demonstrated no sack in such matters.

Unlike a mutual fund, I expect past performance to predict future results.

[Dawg61]

Unfortunately, Keenum has demonstrated no sack in such matters.

I know hence me putting this thread up on here and SPS with his name in it. We are all watching what you do Mark Keenum. Can't be more obvious. DO SOMETHING!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpqAUtzWDuw

[RougeDawg]

Because we don't have our blue hair money men bitching about it. Our prominent alum are still in the poor old msu "sit down in front" at football games crowd.

Our older more prominent alumni don't know what winning feels like and are happy just having a seat at the SEC table. They Don't care about everyone pulling together to take the next step in the SEC. Rather have a 11 am game so they can make it back home avert the game for their bridge and dominos.

The majority of Our older alum are spitting images of LT.

In contrast The OM alum who advertise with the CL will threaten to pull their ads if they put shit about them front and center like they do us. You have to speak/vote with your wallet and we are just too nice.

To better understand the dynamic, one would be better off to compare them to the liberal democrats. Most trial lawyers are liberal democrats who don't take any BS. Hence most of their alumni. They(LD's) never stop fighting, even when they win. They just move on to the next topic or cause and fight until they win that one. It's not about the topic or cause. It's about total control of the narrative and power over those who oppose you. That's all it ever will be. That is OM in a "Nutt"shell and for those of you who follow policies more in depth than the mainstream networks know exactly what talking about.

[bobtail bob]

Until these mfs actually feel a consequence for their shitty ways expect more of the same.

There's another thread on here with Rick Cleveland mining for clicks from us and people indulge it. Where's his piece on how much the plantation is wasting on not needed lawyer fees ? None of these sackless minions will touch it. MS taxpayers are basically footing the bill for a cover up and no media says a word about it.

[Mimi's Babies]

I know hence me putting this thread up on here and SPS with his name in it. We are all watching what you do Mark Keenum. Can't be more obvious. DO SOMETHING!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpqAUtzWDuw

Please don't hold your breath.... Lack of back bone.....

[shannondawg]

I resemble that remark about us older dogs. But I have to admit , I don't bitch about anything, unless the parking lot is full or someone is in my seat. I always felt the the rebs wined and dined their media guests . I would.


Because we don't have our blue hair money men bitching about it. Our prominent alum are still in the poor old msu "sit down in front" at football games crowd.

Our older more prominent alumni don't know what winning feels like and are happy just having a seat at the SEC table. They Don't care about everyone pulling together to take the next step in the SEC. Rather have a 11 am game so they can make it back home avert the game for their bridge and dominos.

The majority of Our older alum are spitting images of LT.

In contrast The OM alum who advertise with the CL will threaten to pull their ads if they put shit about them front and center like they do us. You have to speak/vote with your wallet and we are just too nice.

To better understand the dynamic, one would be better off to compare them to the liberal democrats. Most trial lawyers are liberal democrats who don't take any BS. Hence most of their alumni. They(LD's) never stop fighting, even when they win. They just move on to the next topic or cause and fight until they win that one. It's not about the topic or cause. It's about total control of the narrative and power over those who oppose you. That's all it ever will be. That is OM in a "Nutt"shell and for those of you who follow policies more in depth than the mainstream networks know exactly what talking about.

[War Machine Dawg]

Until these mfs actually feel a consequence for their shitty ways expect more of the same.

There's another thread on here with Rick Cleveland mining for clicks from us and people indulge it. Where's his piece on how much the plantation is wasting on not needed lawyer fees ? None of these sackless minions will touch it. MS taxpayers are basically footing the bill for a cover up and no media says a word about it.

Calm down, Kemosabe. RC doesn't work for the CL and hasn't in ages. He works for the MS Sports Hall of Fame. RC may have been a true Mustard Buzzard, but when he was sports editor at the CL, the out and out bias wasn't nearly as bad. Sure, it was slanted and we all knew it. But the CL has become the Pravda for UNM athletics since RC left.

If we want to hurt the CL, we have to stop giving them clicks and/or canceling subscriptions. Until we hit them in the wallet, nothing is going to change. Although I have been yelling for us to cut their access for years until they decide they can play ball. They need us not the other way around and it's past time we flexed our muscle on that front.

[Dawgface]

Because we don't have our blue hair money men bitching about it. Our prominent alum are still in the poor old msu "sit down in front" at football games crowd.

Our older more prominent alumni don't know what winning feels like and are happy just having a seat at the SEC table. They Don't care about everyone pulling together to take the next step in the SEC. Rather have a 11 am game so they can make it back home avert the game for their bridge and dominos.

The majority of Our older alum are spitting images of LT.

In contrast The OM alum who advertise with the CL will threaten to pull their ads if they put shit about them front and center like they do us. You have to speak/vote with your wallet and we are just too nice.

To better understand the dynamic, one would be better off to compare them to the liberal democrats. Most trial lawyers are liberal democrats who don't take any BS. Hence most of their alumni. They(LD's) never stop fighting, even when they win. They just move on to the next topic or cause and fight until they win that one. It's not about the topic or cause. It's about total control of the narrative and power over those who oppose you. That's all it ever will be. That is OM in a "Nutt"shell and for those of you who follow policies more in depth than the mainstream networks know exactly what talking about.

Boy....the 'blue hairs' get blamed for everything these days.

[Dawg61]

Because we don't have our blue hair money men bitching about it. Our prominent alum are still in the poor old msu "sit down in front" at football games crowd.

Our older more prominent alumni don't know what winning feels like and are happy just having a seat at the SEC table. They Don't care about everyone pulling together to take the next step in the SEC. Rather have a 11 am game so they can make it back home avert the game for their bridge and dominos.

The majority of Our older alum are spitting images of LT.

In contrast The OM alum who advertise with the CL will threaten to pull their ads if they put shit about them front and center like they do us. You have to speak/vote with your wallet and we are just too nice.

To better understand the dynamic, one would be better off to compare them to the liberal democrats. Most trial lawyers are liberal democrats who don't take any BS. Hence most of their alumni. They(LD's) never stop fighting, even when they win. They just move on to the next topic or cause and fight until they win that one. It's not about the topic or cause. It's about total control of the narrative and power over those who oppose you. That's all it ever will be. That is OM in a "Nutt"shell and for those of you who follow policies more in depth than the mainstream networks know exactly what talking about.

Excellent post, rep given and I would like to invite you to join the political board too please. Oh and it's a new day in MSU land. Blue hairs can sit back and enjoy the success the younger MSU grads will bring them. We know they will.

[Mimi's Babies]

Until these mfs actually feel a consequence for their shitty ways expect more of the same.

There's another thread on here with Rick Cleveland mining for clicks from us and people indulge it. Where's his piece on how much the plantation is wasting on not needed lawyer fees ? None of these sackless minions will touch it. MS taxpayers are basically footing the bill for a cover up and no media says a word about it.

I would like to read that article also..... Cover up -- illegal benefits-- admitted using phones for university use purchased by the foundation -- burner phones used -- it just keeps getting better -- the legal fees are climbing..... http://www.mcfoi.org/handbook/public.html

[Red Sox Dawg]

Boy....the 'blue hairs' get blamed for everything these days.

I wish I had some hair, don't care what color.

[Tbonewannabe]

OM grad says "Ethics?!? Haha, what in the heck is that? At OM we don't give preferential treatment to ethnics. Hotty Toddy!"

Reminds me of the Adam Sandler movie Billy Madison. At the end he chooses Business Ethics and the guy has no clue what it is, he must have gotten his degree from Ole Miss.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I know it's never going to happen because we play with kid gloves but we ought to at least threaten to limit their access until we feel that coverage is nonbiased. It sounds like Hugh Freeze was calling and harassing media during his time. Why can't we make sure we are dealt with fairly.

Limit access? Just pull credentials and take zero shit. It's not like MSU fans depend on CL for info

[Dawg61]

Who actually owns the CL? Name, email, phone number, website, twitter account, Facebook account, instagram account? Thanks

[War Machine Dawg]

Who actually owns the CL? Name, email, phone number, website, twitter account, Facebook account, instagram account? Thanks

A media conglomerate known as Gannett. This isn't a locally owned rag with someone local to call anymore.

[Dawg61]

A media conglomerate known as Gannett. This isn't a locally owned rag with someone local to call anymore.

Alright bottom of the customer service food chain looks to start here "Do you have a question about content? Please email USA TODAY NETWORK Standards Editor Brent Jones: contentfeedback@gannett.com".

[bobtail bob]

. ...

He's a yes man .Always has been. He can stick his beak in on sports gambling at the casinos , but not this ?

Everyone that pays a tax in MS is being taken for a ride by these crooked SOBs and they are basically daring anyone in the state to buck them.
Who don't they own ?

[yjnkdawg]

A media conglomerate known as Gannett. This isn't a locally owned rag with someone local to call anymore.


Gannett owns about 100 newspapers nationwide I believe. Including USAToday.

[yjnkdawg]

I wish I had some hair, don't care what color.



LOL...Me too sandawg

[codeDawg]

Was it the front page of the paper or the sports section. Either are absurd, but wondering how absurd.

[yjnkdawg]

it out of control. Putting our freshman RB on the front page over a speeding ticket is absurd!! When is someone like Keenum gonna do something about this huge ongoing problem MSU has with the Clarion Ledger????????


No surprise or shock there. That's a big story for them while the other Gannett publication, USAToday thinks the OM investigation is a major sports story.

[RougeDawg]

Excellent post, rep given and I would like to invite you to join the political board too please. Oh and it's a new day in MSU land. Blue hairs can sit back and enjoy the success the younger MSU grads will bring them. We know they will.

I can't tell you how many of the BH's still get pissed off when we stand at games. Some times I honestly believe they'd rather have the pre Mullen 11 am half full stadiums so they could treat the games similar to a Sunday picnic, as opposed to the loud rowdy night crowds we have had the last 7 years or so.

And Reason2Succeed, just about every defense trial lawyer I've ever known has been democrat and every OM degreed lawyer I know will tell you the same. Thought this was common knowledge.

Lastly, I'll say I've only been graduated 9 years and am only around 1100 BDC rank, but one day I'll be certain to tell the president and AD what I think about stupid bullshit like the CL. Don't you worry. I'll send an email on today's Bs. Struck used to reply to me most times but I've yet to email "Hitting Guru" on anything like this.

[Dawg61]

No surprise or shock there. That's a big story for them while the other Gannett publication, USAToday thinks the OM investigation is a major sports story.

Perhaps there's an angle here to get shit accomplished then. USAToday has way more pull with Gannett than the Crapion Ledger. Perhaps USAToday needs to know about their tiny little shit newspaper "co-worker" intentionally burying Ole Miss info and speaking as loud and ugly as possible about MSU. Maybe this is their angle to the big story they want. Whose the USAToday writer that has been covering the Ole Miss stuff? Why does this feel like the movie Spotlight except it's not Catholic perv priests it's whatever the **** Freeze and his derp tribe perv's are?

[Dawgcentral]

"I can't tell you how many of the BH's still get pissed off when we stand at games. Some times I honestly believe they'd rather have the pre Mullen 11 am half full stadiums so they could treat the games similar to a Sunday picnic, as opposed to the loud rowdy night crowds we have had the last 7 years or so. "

I always consider that these guys might be military vets, or maybe spent most of their lives busting their ass to provide for their family.
They might even have played football for MSU.

Maybe you have the knees of a 70 year old, so you might understand. I'm still of an age when I can manage to stand for the action, but I'll never be 30-35 again, when it's ok to disrespect the folks that paved the way for me.

[Dawg61]

but I'll never be 30-35 again, when it's ok to disrespect the folks that paved the way for me.

Nobody would have to get disrespected if the older generations would learn to let the younger generations lead.

[basedog]

Nobody would have to get disrespected if the older generations would learn to let the younger generations lead.

You forgot the *** 61, you swung and missed badly!

[Rejlector84sports]

I always felt the the rebs wined and dined their media guests . I would.

As a former sportswriter I can tell you that this is true...Something called "The Billy Brewer Invitational" at Hickory Hill CC in Gautier in 1986... I was there...

[Dawg61]

You forgot the *** 61, you swung and missed badly!

Here is a perfect example

[basedog]

Here is a perfect example

Some things never change cowpower.

[bomanishus]

on his way out of town when he was moving to virginia, john grisham responded to a question by the CL reporter by saying, "the powers-that-be in mississippi want the rebels to win!" that was probably 15 or 20 years ago....

[MagicDawg]

Nobody would have to get disrespected if the older generations would learn to let the younger generations lead.

I spent too much time with Dr. Zacharias studying and discussing the topic of leadership to let this pass without comment.

I am 47. Too old to be young, and too young to be old. Textbook GenX. Raised in Brandon, working life started at State, then Georgia, and on to national and international leadership roles.

There is no place, nor no time, nor no role in my life - student, employee, manager, entrepreneur, church member, association leadership, etc. - where I have been held back from being a leader by anything other than my own preparation and my own choices of attitude and approach.

People will respond to an effective leader no matter his or her age. *cough*Dak*cough* If people aren't responding, chances are good that you're not actually demonstrating leadership qualities that inspire confidence in following you. Griping about how generational disrespect is holding you back is an easy cop out that is more about blaming people than leading people. Want to be a leader? Pick a project and lead.

Sorry, nothing personal. I don't know you or your story. I just think that comment represents a fundamental misunderstanding of leadership.

[basedog]

I spent too much time with Dr. Zacharias studying and discussing the topic of leadership to let this pass without comment.

I am 47. Too old to be young, and too young to be old. Textbook GenX. Raised in Brandon, working life started at State, then Georgia, and on to national and international leadership roles.

There is no place, nor no time, nor no role in my life - student, employee, manager, entrepreneur, church member, association leadership, etc. - where I have been held back from being a leader by anything other than my own preparation and my own choices of attitude and approach.

People will respond to an effective leader no matter his or her age. *cough*Dak*cough* If people aren't responding, chances are good that you're not actually demonstrating leadership qualities that inspire confidence in following you. Griping about how generational disrespect is holding you back is an easy cop out that is more about blaming people than leading people. Want to be a leader? Pick a project and lead.

Sorry, nothing personal. I don't know you or your story. I just think that comment represents a fundamental misunderstanding of leadership.

You sir knocked it out of the park!

+1

[gravedigger]

Unfortunately, Keenum has demonstrated no sack in such matters.

Unlike a mutual fund, I expect past performance to predict future results.

Keenums sack, in difference to the juvenile wants of idiots ,is why we aren't going in front of a COI right now.

Lighten up Francis

[BulldogBear]

Calm down, Kemosabe. RC doesn't work for the CL and hasn't in ages. He works for the MS Sports Hall of Fame. RC may have been a true Mustard Buzzard, but when he was sports editor at the CL, the out and out bias wasn't nearly as bad. Sure, it was slanted and we all knew it. But the CL has become the Pravda for UNM athletics since RC left.

If we want to hurt the CL, we have to stop giving them clicks and/or canceling subscriptions. Until we hit them in the wallet, nothing is going to change. Although I have been yelling for us to cut their access for years until they decide they can play ball. They need us not the other way around and it's past time we flexed our muscle on that front.

Cancelled my subscription in 2011 and haven't looked back.

[Dawg61]

I spent too much time with Dr. Zacharias studying and discussing the topic of leadership to let this pass without comment.

I am 47. Too old to be young, and too young to be old. Textbook GenX. Raised in Brandon, working life started at State, then Georgia, and on to national and international leadership roles.

There is no place, nor no time, nor no role in my life - student, employee, manager, entrepreneur, church member, association leadership, etc. - where I have been held back from being a leader by anything other than my own preparation and my own choices of attitude and approach.

People will respond to an effective leader no matter his or her age. *cough*Dak*cough* If people aren't responding, chances are good that you're not actually demonstrating leadership qualities that inspire confidence in following you. Griping about how generational disrespect is holding you back is an easy cop out that is more about blaming people than leading people. Want to be a leader? Pick a project and lead.

Sorry, nothing personal. I don't know you or your story. I just think that comment represents a fundamental misunderstanding of leadership.


You sir knocked it out of the park!

+1

I'm sorry do either of you qualify as blue hairs that sit at football games and bitch constantly about everyone else whose standing and cheering to sit down? If not kindly STFU as you're leaving the reservation on the topic currently

[MagicDawg]

I'm sorry do either of you qualify as blue hairs that sit at football games and bitch constantly about everyone else whose standing and cheering to sit down? If not kindly STFU as you're leaving the reservation on the topic currently

Q.E.D.

[MeridianDog]

Well, this is bullshit. The CL is pro OM because their people and tradition are OM. Their advertisers are OM. Much of their readership is OM. It is nothing more than that. They know where their money comes from.

If you can get four or five of your friends to go down and each of you take out a three or four year contract for a quarter page of ad space, they will kiss your ass and then ask what can they do to keep you happy. Call in and place 50,000 subscriptions and they will do the same. The entire sports department will make a personal appearance at your door to see what your sports opinions are.

OJ once said, "Life is like a shit sandwich. The more bread you have, the less shit you get." The man may be a cold blooded killer, but there is much wisdom in his words.

Newspapers are not ethics and sports equality. They are ad space and whatever they can do to retain subscriptions so they can somehow remain afloat in the internet and 24 hour cable news age.

[RougeDawg]

"I can't tell you how many of the BH's still get pissed off when we stand at games. Some times I honestly believe they'd rather have the pre Mullen 11 am half full stadiums so they could treat the games similar to a Sunday picnic, as opposed to the loud rowdy night crowds we have had the last 7 years or so. "

I always consider that these guys might be military vets, or maybe spent most of their lives busting their ass to provide for their family.
They might even have played football for MSU.

Maybe you have the knees of a 70 year old, so you might understand. I'm still of an age when I can manage to stand for the action, but I'll never be 30-35 again, when it's ok to disrespect the folks that paved the way for me.

Ummmm. Nice try. Would've required 4 times Guadal Canal and Iwo Jima to fill half the bottom bowl. Don't ilfibe me this BS.

[Dawg61]

I spent too much time with Dr. Zacharias studying and discussing the topic of leadership to let this pass without comment.

I am 47. Too old to be young, and too young to be old. Textbook GenX. Raised in Brandon, working life started at State, then Georgia, and on to national and international leadership roles.

There is no place, nor no time, nor no role in my life - student, employee, manager, entrepreneur, church member, association leadership, etc. - where I have been held back from being a leader by anything other than my own preparation and my own choices of attitude and approach.

People will respond to an effective leader no matter his or her age. *cough*Dak*cough* If people aren't responding, chances are good that you're not actually demonstrating leadership qualities that inspire confidence in following you. Griping about how generational disrespect is holding you back is an easy cop out that is more about blaming people than leading people. Want to be a leader? Pick a project and lead.

Sorry, nothing personal. I don't know you or your story. I just think that comment represents a fundamental misunderstanding of leadership.

Let me clarify, this is actually a very good post it's just getting a little off topic from the Clarion Ledger being a giant piece of shit and it doesn't really deal with my point that the older generations like to have their time and everyone else's time too.

[basedog]

I'm sorry do either of you qualify as blue hairs that sit at football games and bitch constantly about everyone else whose standing and cheering to sit down? If not kindly STFU as you're leaving the reservation on the topic currently

Let me know Cowpower when you want to sit by me, pretty sure you would get a better picture of me and some of my BH friends along with some of my younger friends. Some can talk the talk and walk the walk but many can't. Pretty sure from your past where you stand.

HailState!

[Dawg61]

Nobody would have to get disrespected if the older generations would learn to let the younger generations lead.


You forgot the *** 61, you swung and missed badly!


Here is a perfect example


Some things never change cowpower.


You sir knocked it out of the park!

+1


I'm sorry do either of you qualify as blue hairs that sit at football games and bitch constantly about everyone else whose standing and cheering to sit down? If not kindly STFU as you're leaving the reservation on the topic currently


Let me know Cowpower when you want to sit by me, pretty sure you would get a better picture of me and some of my BH friends along with some of my younger friends. Some can talk the talk and walk the walk but many can't. Pretty sure from your past where you stand.

HailState!

Whose Cowpower? Is that a poster from a different board or is that your favorite insult right now? Not real sure why you are trying to have a dick measuring contest with me right now basedog as I am not the poster that started the blue hair discussion but the internet tough guy act went out of style ten years ago along with Jersey Shore.

[WSOPdawg]

I've been a long-time proponent of pulling the CL's credentials, if for no other reason but to get their attention into how biased their coverage has been and continues to be. Why any MSU fan still buys or visits their website is incomprehensible given the CL's past transgressions toward our university.

[West Tn Dawg]

I spent too much time with Dr. Zacharias studying and discussing the topic of leadership to let this pass without comment.

I am 47. Too old to be young, and too young to be old. Textbook GenX. Raised in Brandon, working life started at State, then Georgia, and on to national and international leadership roles.

There is no place, nor no time, nor no role in my life - student, employee, manager, entrepreneur, church member, association leadership, etc. - where I have been held back from being a leader by anything other than my own preparation and my own choices of attitude and approach.

People will respond to an effective leader no matter his or her age. *cough*Dak*cough* If people aren't responding, chances are good that you're not actually demonstrating leadership qualities that inspire confidence in following you. Griping about how generational disrespect is holding you back is an easy cop out that is more about blaming people than leading people. Want to be a leader? Pick a project and lead.

Sorry, nothing personal. I don't know you or your story. I just think that comment represents a fundamental misunderstanding of leadership.

Spot on!
Read this book if you're interested in being a leader. "Turn The Ship Around" by L. David Marquet (Retired Captain)
He turned the worst sub in the Navy around and became the best sub in the Navy, simply by leading instead of following.

[basedog]

Whose Cowpower? Is that a poster from a different board or is that your favorite insult right now? Not real sure why you are trying to have a dick measuring contest with me right now basedog as I am not the poster that started the blue hair discussion but the internet tough guy act went out of style ten years ago along with Jersey Shore.

Whose talking tough guy? Seems you call out BH leadership, my comment to you was "swing and miss" then u got your panties in a wad.

Insult, u must be kidding with such. If u aren't Cowpower then u must be related as it's the same ole sh*t with u and BH.
Quit eating our own dude!

[Dawgcentral]

I'm sorry do either of you qualify as blue hairs that sit at football games and bitch constantly about everyone else whose standing and cheering to sit down? If not kindly STFU as you're leaving the reservation on the topic currently

Off topic eh? but it's okay to go off topic when you agree with the post? Read above:

"Excellent post, rep given and I would like to invite you to join the political board too please. Oh and it's a new day in MSU land. Blue hairs can sit back and enjoy the success the younger MSU grads will bring them. We know they will."

You didn't start the BH topic, but you were fine with it until you were challenged. Maybe you should consider your own words when telling others to stfu.

[sandwolf]

Perhaps USAToday needs to know about their tiny little shit newspaper "co-worker" intentionally burying Ole Miss info and speaking as loud and ugly as possible about MSU. Maybe this is their angle to the big story they want. Whose the USAToday writer that has been covering the Ole Miss stuff?

The big story for USA Today is the Freeze sex scandal and the OM NCAA investigation.....that is what sells, not the lack of coverage by the CL.

However, Gannett would probably have some pretty pointed questions if they found out that someone tried to hand this story to the CL -- a long, drawn out story that would have generated them all kinds of newspaper sales and website clicks over a period of years -- and they didn't deem the story worthy of their resources.....or that the one reporter they had that actually dug and got a scoop on this story was immediately run out of the whole damn state (Riley Blevins).

If you email Gannett, that should be your focus.....if you send them an email whining about bias against MSU they won't even finish reading the email. But if you send them an email asking them why they are allowing the CL to cost their company and their shareholders money by not covering one of the biggest sports stories that has come out of the state in decades (and actually has regional and national interest), that might get their attention.....it wouldn't take long for them to see how little they have covered the story or to see that the one story that they actually broke led to that reporter leaving the company and the state. There is at least a chance that that could lead to some tough questions that would be difficult for the CL's leadership to answer.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I've been a long-time proponent of pulling the CL's credentials, if for no other reason but to get their attention into how biased their coverage has been and continues to be. Why any MSU fan still buys or visits their website is incomprehensible given the CL's past transgressions toward our university.

The newspaper is current Polaroid or Horse Buggy...yahoo sports and ESPN.com much more valuable than CL. Just throw them out and never let them back in. That would keep the other state papers scared and compliant

[BrunswickDawg]

I spent too much time with Dr. Zacharias studying and discussing the topic of leadership to let this pass without comment.

I am 47. Too old to be young, and too young to be old. Textbook GenX. Raised in Brandon, working life started at State, then Georgia, and on to national and international leadership roles.

There is no place, nor no time, nor no role in my life - student, employee, manager, entrepreneur, church member, association leadership, etc. - where I have been held back from being a leader by anything other than my own preparation and my own choices of attitude and approach.

People will respond to an effective leader no matter his or her age. *cough*Dak*cough* If people aren't responding, chances are good that you're not actually demonstrating leadership qualities that inspire confidence in following you. Griping about how generational disrespect is holding you back is an easy cop out that is more about blaming people than leading people. Want to be a leader? Pick a project and lead.

Sorry, nothing personal. I don't know you or your story. I just think that comment represents a fundamental misunderstanding of leadership.
From one mid 40s GenXer to another - dead ****ing on!

[sandwolf]

Nobody would have to get disrespected if the older generations would learn to let the younger generations lead.Don't be a dumbass. Do you understand how it would impact our athletic department if all the 'blue hairs' decided to close their wallets, cease all support of MSU athletics and let all of us young guns show them how it's done? The lost donations and the lost revenue generated from sky boxes, premium seating and season ticket sales (a lot of those blue hairs fund tickets for their 3 kids and 8 grand kids too) would add up pretty quick. In short, we need our blue hairs' money and we should respect their loyal support through a bunch of shitty seasons of football.

One other thing to consider: I have no doubt that there are some crotchety old ****ers that think they are entitled to some kind of special treatment......but this will be my 9th football season as a non-student (and I've held season tickets for every season but one), and I have never once had a bad run in with a blue hair. I caught some looks during my first season as a non-student, because I was acting the same way that I acted in the student section (getting whiskey bent and screaming things that no civilized adult should scream in a public setting). Don't get me wrong, I am anything but a passive fan -- I yell, cuss and cheer my ass off and I still make sure to take enough bourbon in to keep me a little rowdy (without getting plastered).....but I am now considerate of the people around me. I understand that standing for the entire game or even the entire time we're on defense is not something that you do outside of the student section.....most people aren't interested in doing that and a lot of people are unable to. But my point is that I am reasonably respectful, while still cheering, yelling, standing in key situations, etc., and I haven't had a single bad experience with an older fan in 8 seasons.......so with the way you make it sound like they are all over the place and having an impact on our game environment, you might want to consider the idea that you are a miserable, inconsiderate, prick of a fan (generally, the guy who runs into assholes all day every day is in fact the asshole).

Just a thought.

[Dawg61]

Whose talking tough guy? Seems you call out BH leadership, my comment to you was "swing and miss" then u got your panties in a wad.

Insult, u must be kidding with such. If u aren't Cowpower then u must be related as it's the same ole sh*t with u and BH.
Quit eating our own dude!

I am not Cowpower I have no clue who that is and I am not "eating our own". Blue hairs have had their time in the sun now learn to let the younger generations have theirs. If that pisses you off I don't give a shit.

[Dawg61]

Don't be a dumbass. Do you understand how it would impact our athletic department if all the 'blue hairs' decided to close their wallets, cease all support of MSU athletics and let all of us young guns show them how it's done? The lost donations and the lost revenue generated from sky boxes, premium seating and season ticket sales (a lot of those blue hairs fund tickets for their 3 kids and 8 grand kids too) would add up pretty quick. In short, we need our blue hairs' money and we should respect their loyal support through a bunch of shitty seasons of football.

One other thing to consider: I have no doubt that there are some crotchety old ****ers that think they are entitled to some kind of special treatment......but this will be my 9th football season as a non-student (and I've held season tickets for every season but one), and I have never once had a bad run in with a blue hair. I caught some looks during my first season as a non-student, because I was acting the same way that I acted in the student section (getting whiskey bent and screaming things that no civilized adult should scream in a public setting). Don't get me wrong, I am anything but a passive fan -- I yell, cuss and cheer my ass off and I still make sure to take enough bourbon in to keep me a little rowdy (without getting plastered).....but I am now considerate of the people around me. I understand that standing for the entire game or even the entire time we're on defense is not something that you do outside of the student section.....most people aren't interested in doing that and a lot of people are unable to. But my point is that I am reasonably respectful, while still cheering, yelling, standing in key situations, etc., and I haven't had a single bad experience with an older fan in 8 seasons.......so with the way you make it sound like they are all over the place and having an impact on our game environment, you might want to consider the idea that you are a miserable, inconsiderate, prick of a fan (generally, the guy who runs into assholes all day every day is in fact the asshole).

Just a thought.

At no point in time have I suggested blue hairs stop donating to MSU. Donate all you like and thank you for your donations but don't expect the world to revolve around you because you did.

I have zero problems with you or anyone else thinking I am an asshole.

[basedog]

I am not Cowpower I have no clue who that is and I am not "eating our own". Blue hairs have had their time in the sun now learn to let the younger generations have theirs. If that pisses you off I don't give a shit.

LMAO! My time is far from being done. You are clueless.

[Dawg61]

LMAO! My time is far from being done. You are clueless.

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[Reason2succeed]

Reason says if you don't like the people you are sitting by...sit somewhere else. Problem solved.

[sandwolf]

At no point in time have I suggested blue hairs stop donating to MSU. Donate all you like and thank you for your donations but don't expect the world to revolve around you because you did.When you tell someone to get out of the way and keep their thoughts to themselves, they generally don't react by continuing to donate money. You don't get to treat the older crowd like shit and keep their money.....that's just not how things work.


I have zero problems with you or anyone else thinking I am an asshole.
I have no issue with that....a lot of times I even respect that approach, and I often agree with your posts on this board. But when you're an asshole about an idea that is stupid and short sighted, I'm going to call you on it.

[Dawg61]

When you tell someone to get out of the way and keep their thoughts to themselves, they generally don't react by continuing to donate money. You don't get to treat the older crowd like shit and keep their money.....that's just not how things work. Seems to me that you're adding a whole bunch extra to my initial comments which is probably my fault. I do not want or wish anyone to keep their thoughts to themselves on this board or in the real world but that's probably my fault too for the confusion


I have no issue with that....a lot of times I even respect that approach, and I often agree with your posts on this board. But when you're an asshole about an idea that is stupid and short sighted, I'm going to call you on it. Rock on brother

Sorry blue hairs I do not represent MSU foundation or MSU in any way other than being an alumnus. Please do not think I do or be mad at MSU because of anything I have said or will say in the future. Hate me all you like instead.

[Churchill]

Ole Miss is a far more liberal school than State and their leadership is and has been FAR FAR more liberal than State`s. Gannett is a a very liberal media group. Now what was the question again ?

[Mutt the Hoople]

The Clarion-Ledger is pro-Ole Miss. The sky is blue. The sun rises in the east.....

[shannondawg]

What really hurts is to see blue hairs, and it slowly dawns on me that they are talking about me. I use to think it was funny.
(still do actually, I may be old, but my sense of humor is still with me!)

[Bully13]

Ole Miss is a far more liberal school than State and their leadership is and has been FAR FAR more liberal than State`s. Gannett is a a very liberal media group. Now what was the question again ?

I would think the main reason for this is due to so much of their money comes from jackpot justice. Anybody think there may be other reasons?

[yjnkdawg]

The CL is owned by Gannett, but it is still a local paper, with too much OM connections. Simllar to when the Hedermans' were the owners and publishers.

[hobiedawg]

What I find so hilariously funny about all of this is that, unless one meets an untimely death, one naturally becomes a "blue hair".

[basedog]

What really hurts is to see blue hairs, and it slowly dawns on me that they are talking about me. I use to think it was funny.
(still do actually, I may be old, but my sense of humor is still with me!)

There is always that Super Blue Hair club that you and AROB44 could apply. Tell me you ain't the one that shouts Sit Down?

If 61 knew how much you and AROB44 have given maybe he would show more respect to the BH club, but then again IFFY.

[RougeDawg]

What I find so hilariously funny about all of this is that, unless one meets an untimely death, one naturally becomes a "blue hair".

What I find so hilarious is your inability to interpret the message.

Im in my early 30's and I'll never be like the Blue hairs that sit by me in sections 19-21. I'll stand as long as my body allows.

Our older alumni, by majority are the LT types. They like the 11 am "Saturday Stroll" games as most of us enjoy an afternoon bike ride or walk.its just something to pass their time. Almost as if being s member of a CC. Let's just go because we have tickets.

FF to present day and we have younger more enthusiastic fans who want to show up and create a rock concert atmosphere. BH's get pissed at people standing in front. We don't spend $5-10k per year on football and drive 8-12 hr round trips to go sit in a "Nike Tour" event. We go to raise hell and hopefully help our team win.

Saturday's in Davis Wade are not a leisurely event. Out old LT Blue Hairs are just content with being on campus on a Saturday. Any football game is just secondary and W or L they will have the same demeanor after the game as they did before.

Bottom line. I could stay my ass in NO and save a shit ton of money to do what our BH's want to do during the game.

[Churchill]

Well you're obviously a huge State fan and probably a fine person but you're making yourself sound like a prick. I have a feeling your problems with "blue hairs" don't start or end at DWS. Why don't you step back and think before you distribute all of your hatred towards older people. I personally don't see a place for that at MSU.

[hobiedawg]

What I find so hilarious is your inability to interpret the message.

Im in my early 30's and I'll never be like the Blue hairs that sit by me in sections 19-21. I'll stand as long as my body allows.

Our older alumni, by majority are the LT types. They like the 11 am "Saturday Stroll" games as most of us enjoy an afternoon bike ride or walk.its just something to pass their time. Almost as if being s member of a CC. Let's just go because we have tickets.

FF to present day and we have younger more enthusiastic fans who want to show up and create a rock concert atmosphere. BH's get pissed at people standing in front. We don't spend $5-10k per year on football and drive 8-12 hr round trips to go sit in a "Nike Tour" event. We go to raise hell and hopefully help our team win.

Saturday's in Davis Wade are not a leisurely event. Out old LT Blue Hairs are just content with being on campus on a Saturday. Any football game is just secondary and W or L they will have the same demeanor after the game as they did before.

Bottom line. I could stay my ass in NO and save a shit ton of money to do what our BH's want to do during the game.

We'll see.

[Dawg61]

There is always that Super Blue Hair club that you and AROB44 could apply. Tell me you ain't the one that shouts Sit Down?

If 61 knew how much you and AROB44 have given maybe he would show more respect to the BH club, but then again IFFY.

I don't kiss people's ass and that includes people that have a bunch of money. My grandparents were millionaires from the time I was born till they passed away and it disgusted me how fake people were to them just because they were loaded. It created an extra sense of self worth that trickled down throughout my entire family. I would much rather have a tremendous bad-ass football AND BASKETBALL environment than have everyone cater and kiss ass to people that donate a bunch of money. MSU has and makes plenty of money and that isn't changing no matter how many people get butthurt cause they feel like they aren't getting their ass kissed enough. Me sucking ass to someone just cause they have a bunch of money won't change that and me not sucking ass to someone won't change that either. I will always be real with everyone. It's just how I am built. If you don't like that once again I give zero shits. You basedog have made your feelings towards me very clear for awhile now so I can promise you I give absolutely no value to what you think of me.

[basedog]

I don't kiss people's ass and that includes people that have a bunch of money. My grandparents were millionaires from the time I was born till they passed away and it disgusted me how fake people were to them just because they were loaded. It created an extra sense of self worth that trickled down throughout my entire family. I would much rather have a tremendous bad-ass football AND BASKETBALL environment than have everyone cater and kiss ass to people that donate a bunch of money. MSU has and makes plenty of money and that isn't changing no matter how many people get butthurt cause they feel like they aren't getting their ass kissed enough. Me sucking ass to someone just cause they have a bunch of money won't change that and me not sucking ass to someone won't change that either. I will always be real with everyone. It's just how I am built. If you don't like that once again I give zero shits. You basedog have made your feelings towards me very clear for awhile now so I can promise you I give absolutely no value to what you think of me.

Ok, nobody is asking you or anyone else to kiss ass!

Btw, Not all folks are fake, to say let the young lead, Go get you some 61, talk is cheap!

[shannondawg]

Rougedawg:Im in my early 30's and I'll never be like the Blue hairs that sit by me in sections 19-21. I'll stand as long as my body allows.

Don't you think maybe us bh's did the same thing?

I think with a little growing up, you gonna be alright!