I keep seeing people say the '19 class is loaded

[AlSwearengen]

And even has a couple of 5* types and several 4* players in it.

Who are the 5* players and who do we have a good shot at getting. Olemiss likely won't be in the running, but the usual suspects from out of state will be sniffing around.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

As expected those 5* players are now 4*. Remember when Ashton Shumpert was a 5* rated near 100 his junior year. I do.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Charles Moore DL - Louisville
Nakobe Dean LB - Horn Lake
Nathan Pickering DL - Seminary
Brandon Turnage DB - Lafayette Co
Jerrion Ealy RB/Slot - Jackson Prep
Byron Young DL - West Jones
De'Monte Russell DL/OLB - Provine
Dannis Jackson WR - Sumrall
Demarcus Gordon OL - Rosa Fort
Jordan Jernigan WR - Tupelo
Kyziah Pruitt WR - Noxubee Co
Lakenith Thompson RB - Calloway
Zach Edwards OLB - Starkville
John Rhys Plumlee DB - Oak Grove
Jarrian Jones DB - Northwest Rankin
Rodriques Clark RB - Starkville
Jalil Clemons DL - Starkville
Keshawn Moore OL - Cleveland
Brandon Cunningham OL - St. Martin
Diwun Black ATH - Forest
Kenneth Jefferson QB - North Panola
Langston Anderson WR - Jackson Academy
Tavario Standifer DB - Tupelo
Raydarious Jones DB - Horn Lake
Bryce Ramsey OL - Harrison Central

These are guys today that have or will have multiple SEC offers in the 2019 class. This list is before a game has been played in their Jr year so you know there will be other guys added to this list. Yes this class is loaded like none other we've seen in the state.

[Hasu Dackds]

I think Ole Miss will probably be back on their radar by the 2019 class, assuming the 2-year bowl ban and loss of scholarships. If the escort/recruit thing heats up, my opinion is null and void.

By that time, penalties will probably be announced, and they'll have a new coach who is motivated, and he'll be selling the 'early playing time' aspect, and they'll get their share. 2017 and 2018 are our chances to really take a step up. However, if we take advantage the right way, we will beating Ole Miss for the recruits because we are a better program, not because they are crippled with sanctions. That is the goal, but they aren't going away. Unless again, escort-gate explodes.

[GreenheadDawg]

Charles Moore DL - Louisville
Nakobe Dean LB - Horn Lake
Nathan Pickering DL - Seminary
Brandon Turnage DB - Lafayette Co
Jerrion Ealy RB/Slot - Jackson Prep
Byron Young DL - West Jones
De'Monte Russell DL/OLB - Provine
Dannis Jackson WR - Sumrall
Demarcus Gordon OL - Rosa Fort
Jordan Jernigan WR - Tupelo
Kyziah Pruitt WR - Noxubee Co
Lakenith Thompson RB - Calloway
Zach Edwards OLB - Starkville
John Rhys Plumlee DB - Oak Grove
Jarrian Jones DB - Northwest Rankin
Rodriques Clark RB - Starkville
Jalil Clemons DL - Starkville
Keshawn Moore OL - Cleveland
Brandon Cunningham OL - St. Martin
Diwun Black ATH - Forest
Kenneth Jefferson QB - North Panola
Langston Anderson WR - Jackson Academy
Tavario Standifer DB - Tupelo
Raydarious Jones DB - Horn Lake
Bryce Ramsey OL - Harrison Central

These are guys today that have or will have multiple SEC offers in the 2019 class. This list is before a game has been played in their Jr year so you know there will be other guys added to this list. Yes this class is loaded like none other we've seen in the state.

Do we have a good shot at landing some?

[RougeDawg]

I think Ole Miss will probably be back on their radar by the 2019 class, assuming the 2-year bowl ban and loss of scholarships. If the escort/recruit thing heats up, my opinion is null and void.

By that time, penalties will probably be announced, and they'll have a new coach who is motivated, and he'll be selling the 'early playing time' aspect, and they'll get their share. 2017 and 2018 are our chances to really take a step up. However, if we take advantage the right way, we will beating Ole Miss for the recruits because we are a better program, not because they are crippled with sanctions. That is the goal, but they aren't going away. Unless again, escort-gate explodes.

2 year bowl ban? Did Fancy tell you that at the library this weekend?

[ShotgunDawg]

I doubt OM will be much a factor next year.

Maybe 2020, but they'll only be able to sign limited numbers & they won't have much to sell in the form of winning.

I think we get 3/4 of the top guys next year & have a top 15 recruiting class.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Do we have a good shot at landing some?

Yes we do but a lot of these kids will be big time SEC recruits we will have to battle for them.

[bostondawg]

This will be the best high school class in Mississippi in the modern era. I don't think OM will really be back on their radar too much by 2019. They'll still have a joke at head coach. The coaches at OM recruiting these guys will likely still be Matt Luke and the gang, or whoever they hire after this season to replace Luke (who will be a Rick Ray type hire--clean up the program until we can get someone decent). Whoever will be the "good" coach OM hires in a few years will not be the one recruiting these kids.

[dawgman15]

If we win a lot of games this year and next I think we will a good shot. If we are mediocre or just plain bad I don't see a lot of theses guys coming here.

[GreenheadDawg]

I think Ole Miss will probably be back on their radar by the 2019 class, assuming the 2-year bowl ban and loss of scholarships. If the escort/recruit thing heats up, my opinion is null and void.

By that time, penalties will probably be announced, and they'll have a new coach who is motivated, and he'll be selling the 'early playing time' aspect, and they'll get their share. 2017 and 2018 are our chances to really take a step up. However, if we take advantage the right way, we will beating Ole Miss for the recruits because we are a better program, not because they are crippled with sanctions. That is the goal, but they aren't going away. Unless again, escort-gate explodes.

Tell Yanci we said hi and click an ad on your way out

[smootness]

If we win a lot of games this year and next I think we will a good shot. If we are mediocre or just plain bad I don't see a lot of theses guys coming here.

It's in-state, we'll get plenty either way.

[dawgs]

As expected those 5* players are now 4*. Remember when Ashton Shumpert was a 5* rated near 100 his junior year. I do.

Weren't most evaluators saying shumpert's best position was LB, but he ranted to play RB and we were one of or maybe the only sec school to tell him he could play RB? Seems like I remember that.

[AlSwearengen]

Who are the top 3?

[Todd4State]

It would be hilarious if our 2019 class is better than Ole Miss's 2013 class.

[smootness]

It would be hilarious if our 2019 class is better than Ole Miss's 2013 class.

None of these guys are at the level of Tunsil/Nkemdiche/Treadwell.

I mean, it's a great MS class, but even if you just about run the table, you're still not a top 5 class and likely not close.

[It_Could_Happen]

Charles Moore DL - Louisville
Nakobe Dean LB - Horn Lake
Nathan Pickering DL - Seminary
Brandon Turnage DB - Lafayette Co
Jerrion Ealy RB/Slot - Jackson Prep
Byron Young DL - West Jones
De'Monte Russell DL/OLB - Provine
Dannis Jackson WR - Sumrall
Demarcus Gordon OL - Rosa Fort
Jordan Jernigan WR - Tupelo
Kyziah Pruitt WR - Noxubee Co
Lakenith Thompson RB - Calloway
Zach Edwards OLB - Starkville
John Rhys Plumlee DB - Oak Grove
Jarrian Jones DB - Northwest Rankin
Rodriques Clark RB - Starkville
Jalil Clemons DL - Starkville
Keshawn Moore OL - Cleveland
Brandon Cunningham OL - St. Martin
Diwun Black ATH - Forest
Kenneth Jefferson QB - North Panola
Langston Anderson WR - Jackson Academy
Tavario Standifer DB - Tupelo
Raydarious Jones DB - Horn Lake
Bryce Ramsey OL - Harrison Central

These are guys today that have or will have multiple SEC offers in the 2019 class. This list is before a game has been played in their Jr year so you know there will be other guys added to this list. Yes this class is loaded like none other we've seen in the state.

I heard Ealy was a first round prospect in baseball. Not sure if it is true, but if it is got to think he goes the baseball route.

[Todd4State]

None of these guys are at the level of Tunsil/Nkemdiche/Treadwell.

I mean, it's a great MS class, but even if you just about run the table, you're still not a top 5 class and likely not close.

And you know this how? If we land four five stars and seven four stars tha my would equal their class. There's already two five stars in the 2019 class and eight four stars not including the four star QB that is already a commit. Ealy, Charles Moore, and Nakobe Dean are just as legit prospects as the Ole Miss guys in 2013.

[louisvilledawg]

Yes we do but a lot of these kids will be big time SEC recruits we will have to battle for them.

I hope we get Charles Moore (obvi.)

He's gonna be a 5* and he comes from the best town in MS.

[louisvilledawg]

I heard Ealy was a first round prospect in baseball. Not sure if it is true, but if it is got to think he goes the baseball route.

What position?

He's pretty short I think. Must be like a MIF.

[HSVDawg]

I think Ole Miss will probably be back on their radar by the 2019 class, assuming the 2-year bowl ban and loss of scholarships. If the escort/recruit thing heats up, my opinion is null and void.

By that time, penalties will probably be announced, and they'll have a new coach who is motivated, and he'll be selling the 'early playing time' aspect, and they'll get their share. 2017 and 2018 are our chances to really take a step up. However, if we take advantage the right way, we will beating Ole Miss for the recruits because we are a better program, not because they are crippled with sanctions. That is the goal, but they aren't going away. Unless again, escort-gate explodes.

I don't think you are understanding which class the 2019 is. It is the one that will begin signing LOI's only 16 months from right now. Basically, it will be the very first cycle of recruits that goes through the process after sanctions are announced. You say "2017 and 2018 are our chances to step up", but the 2017 class is already here and the 2018 class is about halfway finished if not moreso. I think your statements above apply more to the 2020 class than the 2019 class.

[HSVDawg]

Charles Moore DL - Louisville
Nakobe Dean LB - Horn Lake
Nathan Pickering DL - Seminary
Brandon Turnage DB - Lafayette Co
Jerrion Ealy RB/Slot - Jackson Prep
Byron Young DL - West Jones
De'Monte Russell DL/OLB - Provine
Dannis Jackson WR - Sumrall
Demarcus Gordon OL - Rosa Fort
Jordan Jernigan WR - Tupelo
Kyziah Pruitt WR - Noxubee Co
Lakenith Thompson RB - Calloway
Zach Edwards OLB - Starkville
John Rhys Plumlee DB - Oak Grove
Jarrian Jones DB - Northwest Rankin
Rodriques Clark RB - Starkville
Jalil Clemons DL - Starkville
Keshawn Moore OL - Cleveland
Brandon Cunningham OL - St. Martin
Diwun Black ATH - Forest
Kenneth Jefferson QB - North Panola
Langston Anderson WR - Jackson Academy
Tavario Standifer DB - Tupelo
Raydarious Jones DB - Horn Lake
Bryce Ramsey OL - Harrison Central

These are guys today that have or will have multiple SEC offers in the 2019 class. This list is before a game has been played in their Jr year so you know there will be other guys added to this list. Yes this class is loaded like none other we've seen in the state.

Maybe just me, but I am always extremely skeptical when people annoint a signing class as being "loaded" when the entire crop of players has a single year of varsity ball under their belts. These kids aren't even Juniors yet. There will be injuries. And, its MS, so I wouldn't be surprised if 30% of that list become grade casualties. That's not to say it won't end up being much better than recent classes at the end of next year, but it is simply way too early to know that right now.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Maybe just me, but I am always extremely skeptical when people annoint a signing class as being "loaded" when the entire crop of players has a single year of varsity ball under their belts. These kids aren't even Juniors yet. There will be injuries. And, its MS, so I wouldn't be surprised if 30% of that list become grade casualties. That's not to say it won't end up being much better than recent classes at the end of next year, but it is simply way too early to know that right now.

^^ This

[Hasu Dackds]

I don't think you are understanding which class the 2019 is. It is the one that will begin signing LOI's only 16 months from right now. Basically, it will be the very first cycle of recruits that goes through the process after sanctions are announced. You say "2017 and 2018 are our chances to step up", but the 2017 class is already here and the 2018 class is about halfway finished if not moreso. I think your statements above apply more to the 2020 class than the 2019 class.
Once the sanctions are announced, all the wait is over, not to mention the bowl ban will be finished (before the 2019 class inks). Now, if they get a 3 year bowl ban, that's different, the 2019 class will be affected then.

All coaches say the 'not knowing' is worse than the sanctions themselves. That's why I want the COI to meet as late as possible, preferably after NSD 2018.

[Ari Gold]

Once the sanctions are announced, all the wait is over, not to mention the bowl ban will be finished (before the 2019 class inks). Now, if they get a 3 year bowl ban, that's different, the 2019 class will be affected then.

All coaches say the 'not knowing' is worse than the sanctions themselves. That's why I want the COI to meet as late as possible, preferably after NSD 2018.

Umiss will be affected by the sanctions for years to come.. it could be 8-10 years before they put a product on the field that's SEC ready .

[Ari Gold]

DeMonte Russell may end up being the highest ranked and most talented form the 2019 class. And we are in great shape with him.
We are in good to very good shape with a lot of these kids.
Put a good product out there this fall, close with a good recruiting class this winter and this 2019 class will shape up very well...

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Maybe just me, but I am always extremely skeptical when people annoint a signing class as being "loaded" when the entire crop of players has a single year of varsity ball under their belts. These kids aren't even Juniors yet. There will be injuries. And, its MS, so I wouldn't be surprised if 30% of that list become grade casualties. That's not to say it won't end up being much better than recent classes at the end of next year, but it is simply way too early to know that right now.

I get what you're saying but those loaded class usually don't have 20+ kids with SEC offers before they even step on the field for their Jr year. Yes of course anything can happen but the foundation is already set it's not like they're unknown these are kids already known to not only MSU & OM but to the rest of the SEC as well in a lot of cases. Hence the term "loaded". I didn't say they had the potential to have that many SEC players it's already happened/happening.

[HSVDawg]

Once the sanctions are announced, all the wait is over, not to mention the bowl ban will be finished (before the 2019 class inks). Now, if they get a 3 year bowl ban, that's different, the 2019 class will be affected then.

All coaches say the 'not knowing' is worse than the sanctions themselves. That's why I want the COI to meet as late as possible, preferably after NSD 2018.

The 'not knowing' will not be worse than the sanctions in this case. Not even close. In fact, it rarely is "worse", it just unofficially adds to the sanctions. You usually see 1-2 classes during an investigation (but before COI ruling) and 1-2 classes after the sanctions are handed down where the quality of players really suffers. The length of both terms depends on the length of the investigation (this has been a long one) as well as the severity of the sanctions (these will be bad). The COI ruling will simply be the midpoint of the effects on OM recruiting, not the end.

[Hasu Dackds]

The 'not knowing' will not be worse than the sanctions in this case. Not even close. In fact, it rarely is "worse", it just unofficially adds to the sanctions. You usually see 1-2 classes during an investigation (but before COI ruling) and 1-2 classes after the sanctions are handed down where the quality of players really suffers. The length of both terms depends on the length of the investigation (this has been a long one) as well as the severity of the sanctions (these will be bad). The COI ruling will simply be the midpoint of the effects on OM recruiting, not the end.
I hope you are right. I still think immediate playing time is a huge draw for an SEC school.

[Political Hack]

None of these guys are at the level of Tunsil/Nkemdiche/Treadwell.

I mean, it's a great MS class, but even if you just about run the table, you're still not a top 5 class and likely not close.

I'll take the Chris Jones, KJ Wright, and Dak Prescott trio over that group any day of the week and twice on NFL Sundays.

[smootness]

Ealy, Charles Moore, and Nakobe Dean are just as legit prospects as the Ole Miss guys in 2013.

No, they aren't. They're very good, but they're not at that level, at least not at this point.

[smootness]

I'll take the Chris Jones, KJ Wright, and Dak Prescott trio over that group any day of the week and twice on NFL Sundays.

These guys weren't in the same class, so I'm not sure why you grouped them together. And we were discussing recruiting class ranking, not their eventual college success.

[LanceHarbor]

I hope you are right. I still think immediate playing time is a huge draw for an SEC school.


Agreed. The longer this drags out the better. 2019 is in play with UM if the penalties are handed down this fall. If UM is respectable this year (which they very well can be), they will go hard and heavy after the 2019 class. Once a new coach is in place (Les Miles for example), UM will go back to their regularly scheduled recruiting programming/shenanigans.

[Johnson85]

Once the sanctions are announced, all the wait is over, not to mention the bowl ban will be finished (before the 2019 class inks). Now, if they get a 3 year bowl ban, that's different, the 2019 class will be affected then.

All coaches say the 'not knowing' is worse than the sanctions themselves. That's why I want the COI to meet as late as possible, preferably after NSD 2018.

If the COI meets and announces penalties this fall, you're looking at most likely reduced scholarships for the 2018, 2019, and 2020 classes. So the 2019 guys will be looking at a team that is probably coming off of a bad 2018 season with a talented Junior class from the 2016 signing class (assuming no mass transfers) a signing classes from 2017 that was hammered by rumors, and a 2018 class that was hammered by the actual sanctions. And they'll know that the class immediately behind them will be scholarship limited. Best case scenario for Ole Miss, they'll be coming in right when the bottom is about to drop out, and then won't get to win big until at least their senior season and probably not even then.

There will be playing time galore and they probably will pick up a recruit or two, but if we are losing recruits to Ole Miss in 2019 that are not big time legacies, then either Ole Miss will be on their way to getting the death penatly or we will have royally screwed up the situation, which in fairness you have to give that at least 50% odds if not more like 80% odds based on MSU and UM performance in the past.

[PMDawg]

Once the sanctions are announced, all the wait is over, not to mention the bowl ban will be finished (before the 2019 class inks). Now, if they get a 3 year bowl ban, that's different, the 2019 class will be affected then.

All coaches say the 'not knowing' is worse than the sanctions themselves. That's why I want the COI to meet as late as possible, preferably after NSD 2018.

GOAT - Still horrible at this.

[Todd4State]

No, they aren't. They're very good, but they're not at that level, at least not at this point.

Too bad we don't have some sort of rating or star system where we could objectively compare.** And if you look at the star system and compare these guys to where Treadwell and others were at the same point they absolutely are. If not better because Mississippi is notoriously underrated.