UNM is running for their life now...

[Coursesuper]

They are denying Tom Mars Freezus phone records, they know what's in there and they know it's their ass when these guys start going thru the records and find and trace these calls.

[lamont]

Here's the deal on that:

1. The phone records will show escorts for players. There is no way Freeze was calling all those escorts for 5 years on all those dates just for himself. And how they amazingly line up with recruiting weekends

2. The OM spin is going to be when they finally get released? Freeze was a sex addict.

[starkvegasdawg]

They are denying Tom Mars Freezus phone records, they know what's in there and they know it's their ass when these guys start going thru the records and find and trace these calls.

On what grounds are they denying them? Those are public record. I know. I know. Law doesn't matter to them. I just wondered their excuse.

[Coursesuper]

On what grounds are they denying them? Those are public record. I know. I know. Law doesn't matter to them. I just wondered their excuse.

Wolken article says " trying to deny full disclosure of Freeze phone records for the last five years". The assclowns are even trying to charge them $25,100 buck in legal fees.

[Dolphus Raymond]

If/when Freeze's escort calls correlate with recruiting visits, NCAA investigation #3 will commence. "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends."

[BiscuitEater]

On what grounds are they denying them?

Only way I know, is to settle, 'admit defeat,' admit they disparaged Nutt, and pay him $$$$$.

[Mjoelner34]

"Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends."


Next upon the bill in our House of Vaudeville
We've a stripper in a till
What a thrill! What a thrill!

[Todd4State]

Only way I know, is to settle, 'admit defeat,' admit they disparaged Nutt, and pay him $$$$$.

I think it's way too late for that. Plus Nutt is probably a millionaire so they're going to have to pay him a LOT to make it worth his while.

[Bass Chaser]

I'm just going to say they pissed off a lot of schools and they may have even pissed of Mars to where he's kind of taking this personal.

[Coursesuper]

There are more articles coming out now attacking UNM for delaying and redactions of the phone records. Eat it shitbirds.

[PassInterference]

This is the beginning of the end.

[Goldendawg]

Isn't it a coyote that will chew off a leg in a trap to escape. They've still got three legs to go and then they might stop running.***

[TrapGame]

I swear this is turning into the slow motion death scene in The Wild Bunch. And I find it just as compelling and entertaining.

[Mimi's Babies]

Only way I know, is to settle, 'admit defeat,' admit they disparaged Nutt, and pay him $$$$$.

This will not stop anything at this point....

AND

ALL OM had to do was to say "I AM SORRY" three very simple words....

[AlSwearengen]

Here's the deal on that:

1. The phone records will show escorts for players. There is no way Freeze was calling all those escorts for 5 years on all those dates just for himself. And how they amazingly line up with recruiting weekends

2. The OM spin is going to be when they finally get released? Freeze was a sex addict.

On number 2, the word is that Hugh is in the same pine grove sexual addiction program in Hattiesburg that tiger woods was in.

[Noxdog]

On number 2, the word is that Hugh is in the same pine grove sexual addiction program in Hattiesburg that tiger woods was in.

I thought just 2 days ago he was clearing brush in his yard? Interesting, if true.

[Political Hack]

Is Ole Miss in the "protecting Hugh Freeze" business or the "protecting Ole Miss" business?

I think they're protecting Ole Miss right now too.

[Political Hack]

On number 2, the word is that Hugh is in the same pine grove sexual addiction program in Hattiesburg that tiger woods was in.

Funny, the Tiger Woods news was actually posted here before it was public. Will history repeat itself?

[Bucky Dog]

I thought just 2 days ago he was clearing brush in his yard? Interesting, if true.

No he is praising a good God, demeaning anyone who asks if his wife and family still support him, eating up the Touhy, Oher and other kiss ass pieces, and never admitting to anything. No way he is in a sex clinic because that would mean he was wrong and OM is In trouble. There is nothing to see here"******

[Bdawg]

This will not stop anything at this point....

AND

ALL OM had to do was to say "I AM SORRY" three very simple words....

Pride will be their ultimate killer. It hurt their pride when Mullen got their butt 3 years in a row and now they're to prideful to say I'm sorry.

[Bothrops]

They just might shut that program down.

[RougeDawg]

I think it's way too late for that. Plus Nutt is probably a millionaire so they're going to have to pay him a LOT to make it worth his while.

What Nutt is going to make on his book deal and the movie/Netflix rights is going to be difficult for OM to reach.

[Turfdawg67]

They just might shut that program down.

Man I hope not. Just let them be crippled so we can beat their a$$es for the next decade!

[Reason2succeed]

Here's the deal on that:

1. The phone records will show escorts for players. There is no way Freeze was calling all those escorts for 5 years on all those dates just for himself. And how they amazingly line up with recruiting weekends

2. The OM spin is going to be when they finally get released? Freeze was a sex addict.

Freeze will have a hard time on the first three steps.

[dawgoneyall]

Isn't it a coyote that will chew off a leg in a trap to escape. They've still got three legs to go and then they might stop running.***

Evidently a bear will also.

[KB21]

It is really poetic justice to see that bunch go down like this. Their arrogance and piety is their undoing.

[Martianlander]

I thought just 2 days ago he was clearing brush in his yard? Interesting, if true.

Probably thought he was playing hide and seek with hookers.

[ShotgunDawg]

What Nutt is going to make on his book deal and the movie/Netflix rights is going to be difficult for OM to reach.

Would have to be a mini-series at this point.

If it were a movie, it would be a 3.5 hour marathon in which everyone watching would get food poisoning from eating too much pop corn.

[GTHOM]

This is the beginning of the end.

Signing day 2013 was the beginning of the end

[ILOATHEBears]

Would have to be a mini-series at this point.

If it were a movie, it would be a 3.5 hour marathon in which everyone watching would get food poisoning from eating too much pop corn.

At this point it may be the Lonsome Dove of Athletics

[FISHDAWG]

Man I hope not. Just let them be crippled so we can beat their a$$es for the next decade!

yep ... it would be better than having Vandy as our permanent cross opponent

[JoseBrown]

Probably thought he was playing hide the salami with hookers.

FIFY

[RougeDawg]

If/when Freeze's escort calls correlate with recruiting visits, NCAA investigation #3 will commence. "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends."

We already know escorts/hookers were used for recruits. That part of the reason Tunsil and Step Daddy got in the fight. Step Pappa told him to stay away from the hookers, money and fake agents. They were going to get him in trouble. We have these statements in sworn deposition. Why aren't any of the media members even mentioning this?

[Dawgcentral]

We already know escorts/hookers were used for recruits. That part of the reason Tunsil and Step Daddy got in the fight. Step Pappa told him to stay away from the hookers, money and fake agents. They were going to get him in trouble. We have these statements in sworn deposition. Why aren't any of the media members even mentioning this?
I doubt we hear anymore public statement from Tunsil's stepdad. His lawyer has given him the word to shut the hell up and let him do his job.
It's going to be the responsibility of some national sport writer to dig for that gold.
Once exposed,..I would expect another LOI. Until then, I'm thinking the NCAA is apprehensive due to the court of public opinion. If they didn't care about that, they would have found the same material that Mars and SR stumbled upon. As of now, they probably believe they have what they came looking for.

[Jack Lambert]

Here's the deal on that:

1. The phone records will show escorts for players. There is no way Freeze was calling all those escorts for 5 years on all those dates just for himself. And how they amazingly line up with recruiting weekends

2. The OM spin is going to be when they finally get released? Freeze was a sex addict.

I heard like 84 calls in 16 days. I don't think Freeze would have had the energy or time for that. Too busy anti christing and fishing.

[CadaverDawg]

Only way I know, is to settle, 'admit defeat,' admit they disparaged Nutt, and pay him $$$$$.

Yea, my question is this, IF OM was to settle with Nutt and they no longer pursued the phone records....would that mean nobody could pursue them anymore? Does requesting those require a lawsuit, or can they be requested regardless? And must OM provide them by law if requested?

In other words, now that people are after them, can they legally hide them or keep people from looking at them at this point? Or is it all but a guarantee that these phone records will indeed become public? Because to me, if these records become public it is game, set, match for that program....I'm just worried somehow they'll keep them hidden.

[DawgHouseUnited]

Yea, my question is this, IF OM was to settle with Nutt and they no longer pursued the phone records....would that mean nobody could pursue them anymore? Does requesting those require a lawsuit, or can they be requested regardless? And must OM provide them by law if requested?

In other words, now that people are after them, can they legally hide them or keep people from looking at them at this point? Or is it all but a guarantee that these phone records will indeed become public? Because to me, if these records become public it is game, set, match for that program....I'm just worried somehow they'll keep them hidden.

I'd imagine that it (the university phone records) would still be subject to FOI requests. Plus Rosebowl tweeted something about school phone records not being subject to redaction.

[The Federalist Engineer]

They are denying Tom Mars Freezus phone records, they know what's in there and they know it's their ass when these guys start going thru the records and find and trace these calls.

Why doesn't SA39 request via FOIA, Freezes and his OM recruiter's State-Issued laptop, cell phone, and emails. I'm sure MSU computer science students could find something interesting -

For one, SA39 needs to know who released his name and exposing him to direct harassment

SA39 has as much claim as Nutt. Just saying

[biggun]

Why would your Head Coach, The face of your program, in this case Freeze, actually be the one making the calls to the escort services??? The Head Coach of an SEC school making 5 million year has to make Hooker calls??? Seriously???
Why not put some low level staffer, overzealous booster, or basically anybody except your scripture quoting freaking Head Coach in charge of these sordid calls??? It just doesn't make any sense. Are the powers to be that stupid in Oxford??? Or did Freeze cowboy all of these calls without the knowledge of his AD or assistant coaches??? Seems highly unlikely if not impossible to think they didn't know what was going on.

Just doesn't add up

[Bulldogg31]

The fewer people that know about something like that the better.

Would you trust a 22-year old GA with making these calls and keeping their mouth shut? Also, assistant coaches leave for other programs and I'm not sure I'd want my secrets leaving with them.

[Spiderman]

I would love to see the phone records from a week before last years OM -Vandy game, when Ole Big Barn got suspended,( ie the NCAA told OM that Leo had dropped the dime on them), to a few weeks after the Egg Bowl.

Bet there is some gold there.

Plus ole Saint Freeze the John probably needed a lot of TLC those days

[Spiderman]

Why would your Head Coach, The face of your program, in this case Freeze, actually be the one making the calls to the escort services??? The Head Coach of an SEC school making 5 million year has to make Hooker calls??? Seriously???
Why not put some low level staffer, overzealous booster, or basically anybody except your scripture quoting freaking Head Coach in charge of these sordid calls??? It just doesn't make any sense. Are the powers to be that stupid in Oxford??? Or did Freeze cowboy all of these calls without the knowledge of his AD or assistant coaches??? Seems highly unlikely if not impossible to think they didn't know what was going on.

Just doesn't add up

Kinda said the same.

I'm hearing the "pattern" that got him fired was side pieces, plural, getting many many calls from school phone. I still believe OM doesn't want those records released to help OM , not Freeze.

Bound to be some NCAA problems there.

[msbulldog]

Why would your Head Coach, The face of your program, in this case Freeze, actually be the one making the calls to the escort services??? The Head Coach of an SEC school making 5 million year has to make Hooker calls??? Seriously???
Why not put some low level staffer, overzealous booster, or basically anybody except your scripture quoting freaking Head Coach in charge of these sordid calls??? It just doesn't make any sense. Are the powers to be that stupid in Oxford??? Or did Freeze cowboy all of these calls without the knowledge of his AD or assistant coaches??? Seems highly unlikely if not impossible to think they didn't know what was going on.

Just doesn't add up

The coach might be getting his kicks just talking on the phone??

[Spiderman]

The coach might be getting his kicks just talking on the phone??

Possible. I'm sure the ole 1-900- Nasty Ho sex talk lines are still aound

[Coursesuper]

Kinda said the same.

I'm hearing the "pattern" that got him fired was side pieces, plural, getting many many calls from school phone. I still believe OM doesn't want those records released to help OM , not Freeze.

Bound to be some NCAA problems there.

There is no way on gods green earth the they fired that sanctimonious bastard for screwing around on the side. He could have been getting it daily from every hairdresser in oxford and they would have looked the other way. There is more in those phone records than just booty calls for saint hugh.

[coachnorm]

They are denying Tom Mars Freezus phone records, they know what's in there and they know it's their ass when these guys start going thru the records and find and trace these calls.

"THEY" can deny all they want until the Court strong arms them. We understand that HNs legal team has been granted access to specific phone records. The Court could very well continue being accommodating to HN in the future thus THEY can not deny for fear of contempt of court sanctions. Also, the States Attorney has responsibilities to investigate the providing of prostitution to minors alleged to OM. THEY can not deny a State official access to State records. Any OM associate who is seen as impeding a criminal investigation could be arrested on the spot including the Wolfpack of attorneys shielding OM Football. Remember OM is not a private corporation like USC or Stanford, OM is a State possession. DENIAL of information could be very painful for "THEY".

[Bully13]

There is no way on gods green earth the they fired that sanctimonious bastard for screwing around on the side. He could have been getting it daily from every hairdresser in oxford and they would have looked the other way. There is more in those phone records than just booty calls for saint hugh.

yep. distraction and diversion tactics for now. cover your ass plan for later when the bombs start exploding.

[Commercecomet24]

There is no way on gods green earth the they fired that sanctimonious bastard for screwing around on the side. He could have been getting it daily from every hairdresser in oxford and they would have looked the other way. There is more in those phone records than just booty calls for saint hugh.

You are correct, sir!

[Mimi's Babies]

I would love to see the phone records from a week before last years OM -Vandy game, when Ole Big Barn got suspended,( ie the NCAA told OM that Leo had dropped the dime on them), to a few weeks after the Egg Bowl.

Bet there is some gold there.

Plus ole Saint Freeze the John probably needed a lot of TLC those days

What is really interesting is that a certain high school coach resigned with in two hours of the Ole Big Barn being suspended......

[barfly]

Why would your Head Coach, The face of your program, in this case Freeze, actually be the one making the calls to the escort services??? The Head Coach of an SEC school making 5 million year has to make Hooker calls??? Seriously???
Why not put some low level staffer, overzealous booster, or basically anybody except your scripture quoting freaking Head Coach in charge of these sordid calls??? It just doesn't make any sense. Are the powers to be that stupid in Oxford??? Or did Freeze cowboy all of these calls without the knowledge of his AD or assistant coaches??? Seems highly unlikely if not impossible to think they didn't know what was going on.

Just doesn't add up

I've wondered this same thing. He's always tried to maintain plausible deniability on all the other stuff, lest he doesn't have something to throw under the bus at every turn. Why would he be the hooker securer? Unless that's too sordid and tawdry for the underlings. I mean, it appears that he is hooker-friendly, if only in his double life. The others may have some scruples in that department.

[I_Spy]

Much like Jimmy Swaggart, if one preacher is getting caught at the motel with the pro, then every preacher resigns or is also found to be in the motel with the pro. So then they all blackmail each other in diversionary tactics. They were all high or drunk when using the traceable phone line most surely though.

everyone who is well versed in religion begins to think they are god, as in only they know this wisdom, yet fail so easily into I'm human answer. That anyone takes up for this man is a serpents tongue.

[I_Spy]

Ole miss is not learning like Swaggarts flock, the preachers disassociated immediately as to not ruin the entire church moment they were having or to save face of the church. The longer they stayed associated they quickly assumed would leave a black cloud over them all. OM just sits in a fire.

[I_Spy]

What if they did find underage escort hookups

The families will make fortune on OM without playing a down.

[Schultzy]

Why would your Head Coach, The face of your program, in this case Freeze, actually be the one making the calls to the escort services??? The Head Coach of an SEC school making 5 million year has to make Hooker calls??? Seriously???
Why not put some low level staffer, overzealous booster, or basically anybody except your scripture quoting freaking Head Coach in charge of these sordid calls??? It just doesn't make any sense. Are the powers to be that stupid in Oxford??? Or did Freeze cowboy all of these calls without the knowledge of his AD or assistant coaches??? Seems highly unlikely if not impossible to think they didn't know what was going on.

Just doesn't add up
For the exact same reason you attack Tunsils's stepdad who can bury you. For the exact same reason you attack Houston Nutt who can bury you.

It's because your a dumbass who can't play the tape to the end and keep your own adolescent mouth shut.

[Political Hack]

What if they did find underage escort hookups

The families will make fortune on OM without playing a down.

Civil suits out the ying yang if they find that. Too bad all those ole Miss lawyers have been against Tory reform all these years. Looks like it could backfire here.

[bomanishus]

Is Ole Miss in the "protecting Hugh Freeze" business or the "protecting Ole Miss" business?

I think they're protecting Ole Miss right now too.

they have to protect each other, no matter how much they may hate each other right now. they have one narrative and it is crashing.....AND, they could not have avoided this by apologizing to nutt because if they did that, they would be admitting they lied and misled recruits in violation of NCAA regs and that would have then helped others who felt lied to. they were caught in a tar-baby; they had to do what they always do, just deny and hope it is enough to to intimidate their opponents into quitting. HOWEVER, thankfully, they have run into 2 buzz-saws that they have continuously and publicly disparaged. they should not have backed 'em into a corner....now they have no way out but to finish this fight and that is bad news for the bears!!!! as they say, freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.....heh, heh, heh 😎

[Beaver]

yep. distraction and diversion tactics for now. cover your ass plan for later when the bombs start exploding.

Apparently they want to abolish the NCAA before the bombs explode... Found this post on Facebook:

"Abolish the NCAA. It is uncompassionate and immoral. Ole Miss is being punished because a hotel owner let a player's family stay at a hotel at no cost. They were most likely poor and never would have been able to see their kids play, despite spending their lives helping their kids become good football players. Then, if that kid gets injured or goes undrafted, there's not much to show for it. The majority of the time in college was spent playing football, not in the classroom, and the player's family is still poor. Meanwhile, the NCAA, coaches and administrations still make millions. Other than sex trafficking, there is no more exploitative system in the United States than the NCAA. It should be abolished and players should be paid competitive salaries in the five, six and maybe even seven figure range."

Gotta love OM fans calling out the NCAA for being immoral...

[Ezsoil]

Apparently they want to abolish the NCAA before the bombs explode... Found this post on Facebook:

"Abolish the NCAA. It is uncompassionate and immoral. Ole Miss is being punished because a hotel owner let a player's family stay at a hotel at no cost. They were most likely poor and never would have been able to see their kids play, despite spending their lives helping their kids become good football players. Then, if that kid gets injured or goes undrafted, there's not much to show for it. The majority of the time in college was spent playing football, not in the classroom, and the player's family is still poor. Meanwhile, the NCAA, coaches and administrations still make millions. Other than sex trafficking, there is no more exploitative system in the United States than the NCAA. It should be abolished and players should be paid competitive salaries in the five, six and maybe even seven figure range."

Gotta love OM fans calling out the NCAA for being immoral...

And what is funny they have done everything in their power to win a championship that is awarded by that immoral and exploitive system .