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Dawg-gone-dawgs
07-26-2017, 05:05 PM
So who is the supposed recruit we are after that's a bigger fish than Woodard? I heard B.Walker hint at this but he didn't have a name.

drummerdawg
07-26-2017, 05:13 PM
Pretty sure Woodard is the remaining top target.

Jacksondevildog
07-26-2017, 05:40 PM
Pretty sure Woodard is the remaining top target.

Not Woodard. Supposedly someone rated higher.

JoseBrown
07-26-2017, 06:41 PM
Paul mentioned some possible names yesterday on 247 I believe in a thread.

msbulldog
07-26-2017, 07:01 PM
I hope we can sign Robert Woodard's son, his daddy was a great player for us. I love legacy's and tradition.

MCsMGs
07-26-2017, 09:08 PM
I hope we can sign Robert Woodard's son, his daddy was a great player for us. I love legacy's and tradition.

Me too...there is only a few higher rated players on 247 at his position that are uncommitted. A local, legacy player will be much more valuable to the program than a few extra points in a rating matrix.

1bigdawg
07-26-2017, 09:55 PM
Me too...there is only a few higher rated players on 247 at his position that are uncommitted. A local, legacy player will be much more valuable to the program than a few extra points in a rating matrix.

I don't think it is someone at the same position. I believe it is a big. Also, I don't think Howland will hesitate to sign both Woodard and the higher ranked big.

PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE
07-26-2017, 10:31 PM
Me too...there is only a few higher rated players on 247 at his position that are uncommitted. A local, legacy player will be much more valuable to the program than a few extra points in a rating matrix.

I'm of the same opinion if it's a difference in ratings separating them, or even a small difference in skill i.e. a bit better shooter or athlete.

Woodard seems to be a great passer & defender w/ a great motor & head on his shoulders. But I trust Howland's evaluation & if he thinks he can get another guy that has skills that Woodard doesn't have i.e. elite shooter or athleticism, or fills holes Woodard doesn't in terms of versatility, then I understand backing off a local legacy.

Seems like Woodard was an early bloomer polished by his dad & got rated highly as an underclassman, but may not have a much higher ceiling than what he's already showing. I want to see him in maroon, & think he'd be a great glue guy that we don't currently have, but I'm fine w/ going after someone w/ higher upside.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
07-27-2017, 08:41 AM
Me too...there is only a few higher rated players on 247 at his position that are uncommitted. A local, legacy player will be much more valuable to the program than a few extra points in a rating matrix.

It's not in place of Woodard it is in ADDITION to Woodard.

bulldogsmsu
07-27-2017, 08:52 AM
Not Woodard. Supposedly someone rated higher.

There are only two players rated higher on 247 listed as targets. So maybe Little or Williams. This could turn out to be a ridiculous class if this is true. If we added Woodard now we would jump to #1 rated class as they sit currently.

ScottH
07-27-2017, 08:53 AM
I'm paraphrasing Paul (or Robbie) but I'm close......

"If the highly rated players that have surfaced wanted to come, the numbers would work out."

Dawg-gone-dawgs
07-27-2017, 09:03 AM
I'm paraphrasing Paul (or Robbie) but I'm close......

"If the highly rated players that have surfaced wanted to come, the numbers would work out."

Yes someone would have to be processed maybe 2 would have to. I wish someone "in the know" could shed some light on this mysterious player and whether or not it is true or not.

BB30
07-27-2017, 09:12 AM
Out of curiosity/slightly off topic. For those of you that follow basketball... How far away are we from competing for a real shot at getting in the tourney? What are yalls expectations of this years team? NIT?

Dawg-gone-dawgs
07-27-2017, 09:15 AM
Out of curiosity/slightly off topic. For those of you that follow basketball... How far away are we from competing for a real shot at getting in the tourney? What are yalls expectations of this years team? NIT?

I think we make the tourney(NCAA) this year. Next year....LOOK OUT.

Coastdog28
07-27-2017, 09:18 AM
It's not in place of Woodard it is in ADDITION to Woodard.

Hopefully it's Bol Bol.

bostondawg
07-27-2017, 09:21 AM
Yes someone would have to be processed maybe 2 would have to. I wish someone "in the know" could shed some light on this mysterious player and whether or not it is true or not.

Yes, please. As bulldogsmsu pointed out, only two players are rated higher on our targets board. If Robbie works for 247, does that mean it would be him updating the board?

bostondawg
07-27-2017, 09:23 AM
Out of curiosity/slightly off topic. For those of you that follow basketball... How far away are we from competing for a real shot at getting in the tourney? What are yalls expectations of this years team? NIT?

MSU fans are going to have varying opinion on this. I think we expect the tournament next year, 100%.

For this year, my expectations are at minimum an NIT berth, hoping to just miss the tournament by a few spots. I'm probably somewhere in the middle of fan expectations for this year. Although expectations and desires are two different things.

MarketingBully
07-27-2017, 09:38 AM
The fact that we signed home and home deals with Cincy and Dayton for the next two years tells you what Coach Howland thinks. I'm of the opinion that we will take the South Carolina route where we compete for an NCAA spot this year but will compete for the SEC and at least Sweet 16 in 2018-2019 season.

dawgman15
07-27-2017, 10:07 AM
Someone needs to find the list of the jump that Howland has made in his first three years at every stop.

louisvilledawg
07-27-2017, 10:25 AM
The fact that we signed home and home deals with Cincy and Dayton for the next two years tells you what Coach Howland thinks. I'm of the opinion that we will take the South Carolina route where we compete for an NCAA spot this year but will compete for the SEC and at least Sweet 16 in 2018-2019 season.

Agree. I know he's been historically great in his third year at every stop, but i'm of the mind it'll be his fourth year here. Of course i'm optimistic for this coming season, but we lost a good player in kegler and it'll be Ado's first year playing real games. I think next year could be the banner year (typical msu thinking what can i say.)

Tripp McNeely
07-27-2017, 01:38 PM
Someone needs to find the list of the jump that Howland has made in his first three years at every stop.

He averages a +12.7 win difference in year 3 versus year 2

Dawg61
07-27-2017, 02:13 PM
He averages a +12.7 win difference in year 3 versus year 2

Well if we go 29-3 regular season we will be a #1 seed in the NCAA tourney. **** YES!!!!!

shannondawg
07-27-2017, 02:17 PM
Well if we go 29-3 regular season we will be a #1 seed in the NCAA tourney. **** YES!!!!!

Hot diddy dam I am fired up! Do I need to go ahead and make reservations at the final four hotel?