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ShotgunDawg
07-23-2017, 11:03 AM
When is someone going to answer for hiring this monster? Did they not do background checks?

Getting more & more similar to Baylor by the day. A sexual predator on campus in the name of winning football games

[ETA: we were contacted and asked to remove the persons PIi, which we are respecting. Please do not post her pictures or name. Thank you.]

Mimi's Babies
07-23-2017, 11:06 AM
I have NO words for this.... I knew in my heart about an evil person... But this just keeps getting worse... I have always wanted to know why he left Briarcrest and now it is coming out.... LEAVE THE CHILDREN ALONE.....
:mad:

RocketDawg
07-23-2017, 11:15 AM
Yeah, I'd say those posts could be called "speakin up". Wonder if they're true?

I know there was a case many years ago here where the operator of a private "Christian" school was messing around with the girls. He was also a minister at a fairly large church, Baptist I think. People aren't always what they appear to be on the surface.

Dolphus Raymond
07-23-2017, 11:15 AM
I'm afraid this story is about to get very ugly.

ShotgunDawg
07-23-2017, 11:18 AM
Thing is, absolutely no one is coming to his defense.

Where are the people that defended his character for so long?

When Dak got his DUI, their were hoards of people that came to his defense & said "this isn't who he is"

Where are all those people?

Madisonmd
07-23-2017, 11:20 AM
Oh yeah! Just the tip of an iceberg.

Dawgface
07-23-2017, 11:23 AM
Wow.

Coldsleeve Jr.
07-23-2017, 11:23 AM
Speechless.

RougeDawg
07-23-2017, 11:25 AM
Yeah, I'd say those posts could be called "speakin up". Wonder if they're true?

I know there was a case many years ago here where the operator of a private "Christian" school was messing around with the girls. He was also a minister at a fairly large church, Baptist I think. People aren't always what they appear to be on the surface.

Most of this is true. My MSU group of friends consists of many Memphis area folk and they've been telling us about Briarchrest for almost a decade now, because of the Oher ordeal.

Maybe Hugh took that "Blindsided" thing literally by blindsiding all of these underage girls.

starkvegasdawg
07-23-2017, 11:27 AM
Hey Hugh! Parchman loves them some child molestors. They get nothing but the very best treatment.

Pollodawg
07-23-2017, 11:38 AM
If you read some of the comments on her post, disturbing. Truly disturbing.

Pollodawg
07-23-2017, 11:40 AM
Anytime a teacher is innappropriate with a student, especially female students, you're gonna get conflicting reports. Some love the attention and others detest it. Male students are proud to bang the hot teacher. Lol

Mimi's Babies
07-23-2017, 11:41 AM
Yeah, I'd say those posts could be called "speakin up". Wonder if they're true?

I know there was a case many years ago here where the operator of a private "Christian" school was messing around with the girls. He was also a minister at a fairly large church, Baptist I think. People aren't always what they appear to be on the surface.

RocketDawg..... Now people are understanding why MIMI spoke up.... Don't give my child a "prostitute/escort"..... If I had been the 'real' mother I would have done something and would not be on elite dawgs for sure....

Ari Gold
07-23-2017, 11:47 AM
Hey Archie... blood is also on ur hands if some of this is true..

bobtail bob
07-23-2017, 11:54 AM
poor kids. Hue needs the hell beat out of him. Probably not the only one that needs it either. Its time for a state agency to get involved before this gets out of hand. Tomorrow is monday and the national outlets will descend on Memphis with their sharp knives.
But "this has absolutely nothing,nothing i itell you, to do with the ncaa ",,, my ass. Its time to shut this sick shit down

Dolphus Raymond
07-23-2017, 11:55 AM
From Bad to Worse to Apocalyptic if true. At this point, I will give him the benefit of the doubt until the press digs through it. Thank God for the First Amendment.

RougeDawg
07-23-2017, 11:59 AM
Hey Archie... blood is also on ur hands if some of this is true..

After reading posts this weekend and looking back on the last 7-8 years, I have come to a conclusion that Archie and OM knew about Bucky's shady past. They knew they could hold these things over his head and keep their useful idiot on course to allow The Network to do what previous coaches had frowned upon (Cutcliffe, Tubs, and Nutt). Orgeron was the only coach of their 4 previous coached to go along with The Network. Archie and the Cult was so worked up over 3 straight Mullen wins and "we will never lose to them again" speech, they knew they had to bring in someone they had dirt on.

The coach who had molested his players at Briarchrest and had orchestrated Money and ACT scores under Orgeron was the perfrect useful idiot for The Network to coerce. All makes perfect sense once you look big picture as to why Freeze was "Archie's Man".

This will unfold for many years to come and I'm starting to wonder if Archie is in the NOA's and does not want it released. He did mysteriously recuse himself from the playoff committee a couple years ago. Could be non related, but Archie has been extremely silent of late and appears to be distancing himself from the program and university.

Kate Fagan is the investigative journalists who needs to be told about these latest revelations. She was on ESPN Friday sayin that someone needs to dig into the corruption and exploitation of women surrounding the OM football program.

@katefagan3

She sounded excited to dig into this and I say we send her all of the information she needs to start her digging, including a gold plated shovel. Help me out fellow EliteDawgs, we can expedite the process from our keyboards.

DogsofAnarchy
07-23-2017, 12:00 PM
I have NO words for this.... I knew in my heart about an evil person... But this just keeps getting worse... I have always wanted to know why he left Briarcrest and now it is coming out.... LEAVE THE CHILDREN ALONE.....
:mad:

I wonder who paid to get him out of trouble back then? Invesigate that and you will see where this ends.

starkvegasdawg
07-23-2017, 12:05 PM
I wonder who paid to get him out of trouble back then? Invesigate that and you will see where this ends.

I bet a "blind" person could figure out which "side" that money came from.

Dallas_Dawg
07-23-2017, 12:11 PM
Holy shit, there are local reporters looking to interview some of HF's former students at Briarcrest. They also created a group in order to vent about being victimized by HF while in high school.
It's about to get really, really bad for ole Hypocrite Hugh

ShotgunDawg
07-23-2017, 12:14 PM
There's only one missing piece here folks.....

Gotta connect Freeze's character & sexual prowess to Ole Miss' recruiting efforts.

Do that & it's checkmate

RocketDawg
07-23-2017, 12:16 PM
Holy shit, there are local reporters looking to interview some of HF's former students at Briarcrest. They also created a group in order to vent about being victimized by HF while in high school.
It's about to get really, really bad for ole Hypocrite Hugh

This must be what some meant when they said it was going to get worse ... much worse. Getting into criminal acts now. Many years ago, teacher/student interactions like this were never prosecuted ... just covered up. Now that's not the case. You hear about teachers going to jail ... mostly female teachers ... almost on a weekly basis now.

Mimi's Babies
07-23-2017, 12:21 PM
I wonder who paid to get him out of trouble back then? Invesigate that and you will see where this ends.

That is a very good question..... Oh it was a Christian school that turned a blinded eye.... How many of these boosters knew freeze at the Briarcrest time... Did taco's children attend Briarcrest?

dawgoneyall
07-23-2017, 12:23 PM
Hey Archie... blood is also on ur hands if some of this is true..

He knew.

Mimi's Babies
07-23-2017, 12:24 PM
Holy shit, there are local reporters looking to interview some of HF's former students at Briarcrest. They also created a group in order to vent about being victimized by HF while in high school.
It's about to get really, really bad for ole Hypocrite Hugh

Did I not see a post the other day on elitedawgs -- from a former student at Briarcrest..... ?????????????? anyone remember this???? I PRAY that the person will take a stand for what is true and correct with this.....

Mimi's Babies
07-23-2017, 12:26 PM
There's only one missing piece here folks.....

Gotta connect Freeze's character & sexual prowess to Ole Miss' recruiting efforts.

Do that & it's checkmate

Things have been reported.....

RocketDawg
07-23-2017, 12:31 PM
Did I not see a post the other day on elitedawgs -- from a former student at Briarcrest..... ?????????????? anyone remember this???? I PRAY that the person will take a stand for what is true and correct with this.....

I don't remember a post by a former student there, but I could have missed it.

Mimi's Babies
07-23-2017, 12:41 PM
I don't remember a post by a former student there, but I could have missed it.

It was last week... I just cannot remember the name. The person said that they were a student at Briarcrest... people asked questions but I was busy and did not pay close enough attention. People were encouraging the person to speak out.

Dallas_Dawg
07-23-2017, 12:42 PM
Now I doubt HF could get in any legal trouble about his Briarcrest days (statute of limitations).
It just doesn't look good all things considered and could affect the NCAA's ruling.

Political Hack
07-23-2017, 12:43 PM
I saw a screen shot of someone supposedly from Briarcrest saying that Freeze made her take her shirt off in his office or something like that due to dress code. Anyone else see that?

gtowndawg
07-23-2017, 12:43 PM
Can't believe there is a thread about this because just an hour ago at church and I had a Dentist friend (Kentucky grad) that told me he has a patient that played for Hugh at Briarcrest. The Briarcrest patient has told him stories for years and he never believed them but he does now. There's just to much smoke about these Briarcrest stories for there not to be some truth.

dawgs
07-23-2017, 12:44 PM
Now I doubt HF could get in any legal trouble about his Briarcrest days (statute of limitations).
It just doesn't look good all things considered and could affect the NCAA's ruling.

Criminally, he probably can't, but I'd imagine there's some lawsuits heading his way.

HailState39110
07-23-2017, 12:46 PM
I have a cooworker who went to Briarcrest and is a Memphis fan . He didn't have any news too slimy about Freeze , but about 6 months ago he did assure me that Freeze's persona he tries to display to the public was completely fabricated .

Coldsleeve Jr.
07-23-2017, 12:47 PM
I saw a screen shot of someone supposedly from Briarcrest saying that Freeze made her take her shirt off in his office or something like that due to dress code. Anyone else see that?



(eta: thanks for posting but we were asked to take them down.)

t45fixer
07-23-2017, 12:48 PM
That doesn't apply when a minor is involved. Just ask my neighbor in Clarkdale who's serving time for something that happened 20 years ago. He was girls softball coach.

RocketDawg
07-23-2017, 12:48 PM
Now I doubt HF could get in any legal trouble about his Briarcrest days (statute of limitations).
It just doesn't look good all things considered and could affect the NCAA's ruling.

I'm certainly no expert, but if he did indeed have sex with an/several underage girl(s), that's statutory rape and I don't think there is a statute of limitations for that.

ShotgunDawg
07-23-2017, 12:49 PM
Did OM not do background checks?

Sheesh

WSOPdawg
07-23-2017, 12:53 PM
Now I doubt HF could get in any legal trouble about his Briarcrest days (statute of limitations).
It just doesn't look good all things considered and could affect the NCAA's ruling.

They went back 10+ years for the Sandusky crap at Penn State.

codeDawg
07-23-2017, 12:57 PM
He knew.

I knew. All of Memphis knew. Archie knew. There were a bunch of other people from that movie that knew too. Why do you think the boosters want to be as far away from this as possible?

I seen it dawg
07-23-2017, 01:00 PM
Title IX........

Mimi's Babies
07-23-2017, 01:02 PM
Criminally, he probably can't, but I'd imagine there's some lawsuits heading his way.


Help from an attorney here please....

Is there a statue of limitations on:
Sexual misconduct
Child fondling
Sexual acts with a minor child
Hiring a prostitute and bring them across the state line (federal racketeering)

Mimi's Babies
07-23-2017, 01:03 PM
Title IX........

Does Title IX apply to a private school???

ShotgunDawg
07-23-2017, 01:03 PM
http://i.imgur.com/QwNPtz3.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/778076ef4f375c87076e063685bdab3c/tumblr_mkmwhddtA31rkbt85o1_500.gif

Mutt the Hoople
07-23-2017, 01:06 PM
I believe the Ole Miss Cabal is throwing him under the bus to hide something even bigger. Errrr, allegedly, Ole Miss boosters are rumored to have brought, uhhhh, "Angels flying too close to the ground" to Oxford on recruiting weekends to enchant the recruits on the beauty of the Ole Miss campus.

Even if the boosters DIDN'T procure, uhhhh, "willows bent by the wind", it could point to something worse- Boosters using their own daughters, daughters' friends, and/or other home-grown coeds to seduce or blackmail young players to come to Ole Miss.

P.S. This still isn't the worst NCAA scandal of all time. Compared to what happened at Penn State, conventional buying and stealing of recruits by SEC schools is almost pure and unsullied. Penn state shouldn't even be playing intercollegiate sports now, and the Sandusky showers should've been blown up and replaced by a memorial to all the children whose lives were destroyed by Sandusky and the rest of the Pedd St. administration who never spoke up.

Coldsleeve Jr.
07-23-2017, 01:13 PM
For now anyway, the penn state situation is a bit different. We're talking about forcible rape there. Agree with Mutt.

At the VERY LEAST, these people were/are supporting human trafficking which is a much bigger problem than most realize.

codeDawg
07-23-2017, 01:14 PM
Anybody remember that girl that Chris Jones was going up to Oxford to "visit"?

MrKotter
07-23-2017, 01:14 PM
That is a very good question..... Oh it was a Christian school that turned a blinded eye.... How many of these boosters knew freeze at the Briarcrest time... Did taco's children attend Briarcrest?

Yes. Touhy brought Oher to Briarcrest too.

SDDawg
07-23-2017, 01:24 PM
This was known on this board 4+ years ago. Damn people are slow to figure shit out.

Dawgology
07-23-2017, 01:31 PM
There is not statute of limitations on a personal crime. If there WERE then the clock begins when it is reported to authorities. Seeing as these incidents don't appear to have been reported to law enforcement then they are still in play.

I seen it dawg
07-23-2017, 01:31 PM
Does Title IX apply to a private school???

Yes....Baylor is a private school...

Pollodawg
07-23-2017, 01:37 PM
That doesn't apply when a minor is involved. Just ask my neighbor in Clarkdale who's serving time for something that happened 20 years ago. He was girls softball coach.

There was way too much smoke around your neighbor for him not to be guilty. He had a kid with one of them.

t45fixer
07-23-2017, 02:03 PM
I agree. Just letting people know there is no statue of limitation in play

Political Hack
07-23-2017, 02:04 PM
This was known on this board 4+ years ago. Damn people are slow to figure shit out.

That's when Elitedawgs was "crazy."

Pollodawg
07-23-2017, 02:08 PM
I agree. Just letting people know there is no statue of limitation in play

To this day, some of his former players still defend him toe to toe. I don't get it. That was the worst kept secret in Lauderdale County.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
07-23-2017, 02:09 PM
I agree. Just letting people know there is no statue of limitation in play

Ask Bill Cosby

ShotgunDawg
07-23-2017, 02:16 PM
Rumor on another board say that the hair dresser had an abortion & that Freeze has an affair with a university employee that destroyed her family

RougeDawg
07-23-2017, 02:48 PM
Yes. Touhy brought Oher to Briarcrest too.

The only thing that would make this any better would be the taco Touhy's paying people to keep their mouths shut as Bucky rode the Oher train to Oxford. That's not out of the realm and very possibilities at this point. Anything is a possibility at this point.

And we know the OM alum were whoring out their daughters and next of kin. Just look no further than CJ Johnson and his "white girls". Bbbbbingo.

RougeDawg
07-23-2017, 02:51 PM
Why in Gods name would any female actually even be attracted to Bucky, typically when we refer to "chasing beaver" it pertains to an entirely different meaning.

curmudgeon
07-23-2017, 02:52 PM
I can give you five million reasons.

Doggie_Style
07-23-2017, 02:53 PM
Why in Gods name would any female actually even be attracted to Bucky, typically when we refer to "chasing beaver" it pertains to an entirely different meaning.

Many Women (and men) are attracted to money. Like some say, you look better with a Ben Franklin pasted to your forhead.

msudawg1200
07-23-2017, 03:04 PM
Rumor on another board say that the hair dresser had an abortion & that Freeze has an affair with a university employee that destroyed her family

And their administration knew nothing about it? My arse. That place needs to be nuked. I'd say give them the Death Penalty, but I'd rather them have to play in the SEC with recruits they went toe to toe with Milsaps and Belhaven to sign. Much more enjoyable than them not fielding a team.

Mimi's Babies
07-23-2017, 03:13 PM
IF you have information on Huge Freeze and the mess at Briarcrest please contact:
Anyone willing to go on-camera and share their story with Local 24, please contact me at 631-902-2827. Again, you must go on-camera and show your face. I need three people.

Dave Detling
Reporter
Local 24 | CW 30
631-902-2827
ddetling@localmemphis.com

dmdezigns
07-23-2017, 03:36 PM
Did OM not do background checks?

Sheesh

Employment backgrounds checks only catch convictions. They can't even include arrest data. But if someone hasn't been arrested or convicted of a crime, there's nothing for the background check to show.

Dolphus Raymond
07-23-2017, 03:44 PM
Am I the only person that is now open to the possibility that this story may be on the verge of exploding?

starkvegasdawg
07-23-2017, 03:48 PM
Am I the only person that is now open to the possibility that this story may be on the verge of exploding?

Exploding isn't strong enough a word. They're about to split the atom.

I seen it dawg
07-23-2017, 03:49 PM
Floodgates are really swollen....

DeputyDawg94
07-23-2017, 03:50 PM
Help from an attorney here please....

Is there a statue of limitations on:
Sexual misconduct
Child fondling
Sexual acts with a minor child
Hiring a prostitute and bring them across the state line (federal racketeering)

Not an attorney but I do know that statute of limitations DOES NOT apply to any sexual assault.

Jack Lambert
07-23-2017, 03:52 PM
Employment backgrounds checks only catch convictions. They can't even include arrest data. But if someone hasn't been arrested or convicted of a crime, there's nothing for the background check to show.

We are not talking taking a call center job here.

louisvilledawg
07-23-2017, 03:53 PM
Floodgates are really swollen....

Can you feel the tension? in the air right now?

i know i can. i can feel it. all the way down in my plums.

JoseBrown
07-23-2017, 03:56 PM
I think the Rebears are scared shitless. First they went radio silent a few weeks before moving Freeze at breakneck speed. Now they are suing the NCAA, Msu, players, reporters, coaches and who knows who else to find a way to stop their shit from getting canned!

HaggardDawg
07-23-2017, 04:00 PM
The first post was from meg malone who went to state there same time I did. She told me 10 years ago that the blindside story was all bs and freeze was a creep.

Dawg61
07-23-2017, 04:45 PM
Why in Gods name would any female actually even be attracted to Bucky, typically when we refer to "chasing beaver" it pertains to an entirely different meaning.

Hookers and Sugar babies looking for Sugar daddies give zero ****s about looks

Pollodawg
07-23-2017, 04:47 PM
I think the Rebears are scared shitless. First they went radio silent a few weeks before moving Freeze at breakneck speed. Now they are suing the NCAA, Msu, players, reporters, coaches and who knows who else to find a way to stop their shit from getting canned!

This whole thing reeks of desperation and fear.

Mimi's Babies
07-23-2017, 04:49 PM
Who owns the prostitutes??? Anyone ever thought about that???
Who writes their paychecks?
Where is the money coming from? A certain bank?

GreenheadDawg
07-23-2017, 05:02 PM
Floodgates are really swollen....

I think they are about a **** hair away from having their entire foundation burnt to the ground

Dawg61
07-23-2017, 05:04 PM
Who owns the prostitutes??? Anyone ever thought about that???
Who writes their paychecks?
Where is the money coming from? A certain bank?

Not sure if you're serious with these questions but you're welcome to google Tampa escorts and look for the one with a Detroit phone number but I am guessing all of their ads have been pulled since Thursday. Don't google it if you're offended by nudity either. Just saying

Dawgcentral
07-23-2017, 05:09 PM
Not sure if you're serious with these questions but you're welcome to google Tampa escorts and look for the one with a Detroit phone number but I am guessing all of their ads have been pulled since Thursday. Don't google it if you're offended by nudity either. Just saying

I noticed Steve Robertson was smart enough to have his wife do that type of googling :-)

dmdezigns
07-23-2017, 05:09 PM
We are not talking taking a call center job here.

No but the type of job doesn't matter. Legally you can't use arrest data when making a hiring decision. Checking criminal records will only show criminal convictions. Driving records can only go back 7 years.

Could they hire a PI to do a set of reference and character checks? yes, but unless they had reason to suspect skeletons in his closet an employer isn't going to do that. The references you provide are the ones that are checked. That's just how it works.

By the way, worked in employment background screening, that's why I know this.

It's unlikely that they would have had reason to be suspicious at the point they hired him. And a lot of the rumors that are coming out now probably wouldn't have come out then. People who knew things probably expected to not be believed, so they stayed quiet. Now that there are public stories being accepted more people will feel able to share their story.

LC Dawg
07-23-2017, 06:11 PM
If the Briarcrest stuff is true I hope Freeze is punished for it but I really don't care what happens to him at this point. I want to see Ole Miss pulverized so if the rumors are true I want to see proof that Archie and the Ole Miss administration knew about Freeze's past when they hired him.

Spiderman
07-23-2017, 07:34 PM
I'm no Freeze lover, and am glad he is gone, but why did none of these 'victims' speak out publicly before now? Reminds me of all the media folks who loved him now picking his bones.

He's done. He is what we, State fans, knew he was all along. We don't need people now piling on to verify it

starkvegasdawg
07-23-2017, 07:44 PM
I'm no Freeze lover, and am glad he is gone, but why did none of these 'victims' speak out publicly before now? Reminds me of all the media folks who loved him now picking his bones.

He's done. He is what we, State fans, knew he was all along. We don't need people now piling on to verify it

But it sure is fun to watch.

ShotgunDawg
07-23-2017, 07:45 PM
I'm no Freeze lover, and am glad he is gone, but why did none of these 'victims' speak out publicly before now? Reminds me of all the media folks who loved him now picking his bones.

He's done. He is what we, State fans, knew he was all along. We don't need people now piling on to verify it

I agree 100% with you about piling on Freeze. He's done.

I think all this is about putting all the pieces of the puzzle together in order to expose OM's latest coverup.

In doing that, piling on Freeze is kind of collateral damage.

dawgoneyall
07-23-2017, 07:48 PM
That's when Elitedawgs was "crazy."

When???

msstatelp1
07-23-2017, 07:55 PM
I'm no Freeze lover, and am glad he is gone, but why did none of these 'victims' speak out publicly before now? Reminds me of all the media folks who loved him now picking his bones.

He's done. He is what we, State fans, knew he was all along. We don't need people now piling on to verify it

Do you really need to ask this? Intimidation, fear of being ostracized, apathy if nothing was done about previous cases, etc. Lots of these people were high school age girls in a religious school when these things happened. Most of them have probably wanted to forget these things happened.

Quaoarsking
07-23-2017, 08:00 PM
I'm no Freeze lover, and am glad he is gone, but why did none of these 'victims' speak out publicly before now? Reminds me of all the media folks who loved him now picking his bones.


There have been rumors for years, so it's not like this is totally out of left field.

Kinda like Bill Cosby. He had a bunch of public accusers for decades, but no one really paid attention, until all of a sudden people did.

Coldsleeve Jr.
07-23-2017, 08:49 PM
I'm no Freeze lover, and am glad he is gone, but why did none of these 'victims' speak out publicly before now? Reminds me of all the media folks who loved him now picking his bones.

He's done. He is what we, State fans, knew he was all along. We don't need people now piling on to verify it

Literally the victims said they DID report it and nothing was done. At Briarcrest anyway.

Bothrops
07-23-2017, 09:04 PM
Do we have something a little like a Bill Cosby situation on our hands?

DownwardDawg
07-23-2017, 09:12 PM
Literally the victims said they DID report it and nothing was done. At Briarcrest anyway.

This!!! The victims clearly stated that they did report it.

TrapGame
07-23-2017, 09:16 PM
This!!! The victims clearly stated that they did report it.

And that is going to open another can of worms. This could go nuclear very quickly.

HSVDawg
07-23-2017, 09:21 PM
Deleted....spiderman beat me to the punch

whosyourdawgy
07-23-2017, 09:26 PM
Rumor from up the Pearl River this weekend about a 12 pack in to my budlites some guy, I have no clue who he was, was saying to be looking for an alienation of affection lawsuit to be news shortly from the hubby of the woman Freeze was having an affair with. I'm not sure if this dude was just blowing smoke to try to be cool or actually has something. But since rumors are encouraged

HSVDawg
07-23-2017, 09:28 PM
This!!! The victims clearly stated that they did report it.

They reported it to Briarcrest officials. All accounts are they didn't report it to law enforcement. Or on facebook or to the press back in 2005 when he was first hired as an OM assistant. Or 5 years after that when he got the Arkansas State job.

None of this is to say these accounts were falsified. Quite the contrary. I'm saying if these things happened and they affected these individuals lives, they should have screamed it from the rooftops like they are doing now when it happened. He got countlesss opportunities to repeat his behavior (arguably even more often due to having increased power) by it not reaching the level it should have when it happened.

dawgs
07-23-2017, 11:40 PM
They reported it to Briarcrest officials. All accounts are they didn't report it to law enforcement. Or on facebook or to the press back in 2005 when he was first hired as an OM assistant. Or 5 years after that when he got the Arkansas State job.

None of this is to say these accounts were falsified. Quite the contrary. I'm saying if these things happened and they affected these individuals lives, they should have screamed it from the rooftops like they are doing now when it happened. He got countlesss opportunities to repeat his behavior (arguably even more often due to having increased power) by it not reaching the level it should have when it happened.

When a something happens to a teenager and they report it to people who should take steps to remedy the problems, and those people sweep it under the rug, then it's easy to get disheartened and feel like no one cares and it's you against the world. Nevermind that being a teenager, especially a teenage girl, and having your sex life publicly scrutinized might be the most horrific thing one could imagine.

TippyToe_Dawg
07-24-2017, 12:23 AM
They reported it to Briarcrest officials. All accounts are they didn't report it to law enforcement. Or on facebook or to the press back in 2005 when he was first hired as an OM assistant. Or 5 years after that when he got the Arkansas State job.

None of this is to say these accounts were falsified. Quite the contrary. I'm saying if these things happened and they affected these individuals lives, they should have screamed it from the rooftops like they are doing now when it happened. He got countlesss opportunities to repeat his behavior (arguably even more often due to having increased power) by it not reaching the level it should have when it happened.

You should watch the movie "Spotlight" for a better understanding of why victims wait so long or in some cases never come forward. There are a lot of parallels in that movie to the Briarcrest and ole miss situations. The ends justifies the means and protect the institution (insert church, high school or university's football program) at all costs.

I've never understood that philosophy but it is amazing how many people in high places are complicit in these things.

HSVDawg
07-24-2017, 12:50 AM
You should watch the movie "Spotlight" for a better understanding of why victims wait so long or in some cases never come forward. There are a lot of parallels in that movie to the Briarcrest and ole miss situations. The ends justifies the means and protect the institution (insert church, high school or university's football program) at all costs.

I've never understood that philosophy but it is amazing how many people in high places are complicit in these things.

I've seen Spotlight. I'm not saying I don't understand the mentality of the victims. Its perfectly logical. What I don't get is blasting it out to the world on facebook and message boards AFTER Freeze gets shitcanned for an alleged sex scandal (and I say "alleged" because I still don't think he was getting hookers for himself, and that has since been backed up by other independent sources).

Why wait until now to make it public? They afraid of OM lawyers threatening them? That is what I'm getting at. Because the truth is the truth. If it happened there is no shame and the truth is the ultimate defense. I just wish they had cone out sooner. I don't think that is an unreasonable stance.

Dawg61
07-24-2017, 01:27 AM
I've seen Spotlight. I'm not saying I don't understand the mentality of the victims. Its perfectly logical. What I don't get is blasting it out to the world on facebook and message boards AFTER Freeze gets shitcanned for an alleged sex scandal (and I say "alleged" because I still don't think he was getting hookers for himself, and that has since been backed up by other independent sources).

Why wait until now to make it public? They afraid of OM lawyers threatening them? That is what I'm getting at. Because the truth is the truth. If it happened there is no shame and the truth is the ultimate defense. I just wish they had cone out sooner. I don't think that is an unreasonable stance.

Safety in numbers is the answer to your question. Before it'd be just one of them standing up alone taking a public stance against a very popular public figure in amongst all of their peers so they would expect public shaming and a system that has proven to fail them already with this. Now it's many and they feel comfort being able to step forward when they aren't alone. It appears people will support them now when before their story would be cast aside and they could be facing fractured relationships in their community from it.

dawgs
07-24-2017, 01:56 AM
I've seen Spotlight. I'm not saying I don't understand the mentality of the victims. Its perfectly logical. What I don't get is blasting it out to the world on facebook and message boards AFTER Freeze gets shitcanned for an alleged sex scandal (and I say "alleged" because I still don't think he was getting hookers for himself, and that has since been backed up by other independent sources).

Why wait until now to make it public? They afraid of OM lawyers threatening them? That is what I'm getting at. Because the truth is the truth. If it happened there is no shame and the truth is the ultimate defense. I just wish they had cone out sooner. I don't think that is an unreasonable stance.

Easier to speak up when you don't feel alone.

GoDawgz
07-24-2017, 08:44 AM
The admin had to know all of this crap! One has to wonder if they would have stuck with Freeze if the Nutt lawsuit had not brought out the phone records. My bet is all the way to the end!
After all, Archie did say we have our guy....

lefty96
07-24-2017, 08:47 AM
The admin had to know all of this crap! One has to wonder if they would have stuck with Freeze if the Nutt lawsuit had not brought out the phone records. My bet is all the way to the end!
After all, Archie did say we have our guy....


It must have been hidden better than we think b/c Arkansas State hired him too, and Nambuth(sp)?

Tbonewannabe
07-24-2017, 09:20 AM
I've seen Spotlight. I'm not saying I don't understand the mentality of the victims. Its perfectly logical. What I don't get is blasting it out to the world on facebook and message boards AFTER Freeze gets shitcanned for an alleged sex scandal (and I say "alleged" because I still don't think he was getting hookers for himself, and that has since been backed up by other independent sources).

Why wait until now to make it public? They afraid of OM lawyers threatening them? That is what I'm getting at. Because the truth is the truth. If it happened there is no shame and the truth is the ultimate defense. I just wish they had cone out sooner. I don't think that is an unreasonable stance.

It would take a lot of guts to be the first person to come out with how Hugh Freeze sexually harassed or assaulted a teenage girl. Especially when he has the reputation as the most "Christian" head coach in football which is the PR image he cultivated. I am sure most just think if no one believed them and swept it under a rug when he was just some high school coach, there would be no chance of getting someone to believe them now. They are probably coming out with it now because people will actually listen and possibly believe them.

StoneDawg
07-24-2017, 09:29 AM
The Keepers on Netflix

Documentary about abuse cover up by priest at an all girls school.

GoDawgz
07-24-2017, 09:36 AM
It must have been hidden better than we think b/c Arkansas State hired him too, and Nambuth(sp)?

Oh no doubt it was hidden, dont think ole miss would have hired him if they would have found it before. But once they found out...they may have chose to try and keep it buried. But as always, once something is uncovered all sorts of things start crawling out from under the rocks. We have have skeletons in our past and hope they stay there.

msstatelp1
07-24-2017, 09:47 AM
The Keepers on Netflix

Documentary about abuse cover up by priest at an all girls school.

A very disturbing documentary.

MSUDawg99
07-24-2017, 11:59 AM
That is a very good question..... Oh it was a Christian school that turned a blinded eye.... How many of these boosters knew freeze at the Briarcrest time... Did taco's children attend Briarcrest?

Yes, if you've ever seen the movie The Blind Side, his daughter was a cheerleader there I think? His son would've also been in school there too. Seeing as how Leigh Anne Tuohy seemed to call the shots in the Blind Side, it makes me wonder how close she was with Hugh on a personal level? I'm only speculating. I have never heard anything of that nature.

Rejlector84sports
07-24-2017, 08:48 PM
And with the Tuohy's having their hands in the school and TSUN they wield a LOT of power in Memphis...

Lumpy Chucklelips
07-24-2017, 09:40 PM
This article says the Facebook page has been deleted. Why?


http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/2017/07/24/briarcrest-christian-school-hugh-freezes-legacy-everywhere/506677001/

Doggie_Style
07-24-2017, 09:45 PM
This article says the Facebook page has been deleted. Why?


http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/2017/07/24/briarcrest-christian-school-hugh-freezes-legacy-everywhere/506677001/

I'm sure Hugh's lawyers have threatened them and shut then down....it's a screwed up system

msstatelp1
07-24-2017, 10:03 PM
This article says the Facebook page has been deleted. Why?


http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/2017/07/24/briarcrest-christian-school-hugh-freezes-legacy-everywhere/506677001/

one of the comments says the Facebook page was not deleted, it was marked private.

LC Dawg
07-24-2017, 10:21 PM
It must have been hidden better than we think b/c Arkansas State hired him too, and Nambuth(sp)?

I don't know if there is any truth to any of the stuff about Briarcrest but if there were reports to their administration about Freeze's misconduct there is no way the Tuohys didn't know.

jumbo
07-25-2017, 07:19 AM
This article says the Facebook page has been deleted. Why?


http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/2017/07/24/briarcrest-christian-school-hugh-freezes-legacy-everywhere/506677001/



It was made secret because of that very article. Dude that wrote it took some quotes out of context and painted the group as a place to bash Freeze, which is not at all what it is.