I don't get how Frexit is a "good thing" for the investigation

[Maroonbulldog]

I keep reading that now HF is gone, the NCAA will be more lenient.

What I see, is that if these "revelations " are shocking to the athletics dept,
Does that not give even MORE support behind the LOIC?

If their own people didn't know about HF and his escapades, especially w the rumors flowing for so long,
What else have they been blind to, like when it comes to lesser deals such as NCAA compliance.

IMO, this is another nail in the coffin, not one being removed.

Thoughts?

[ShotgunDawg]

It's just wishful thinking by people.

Freeze's departure won't help one bit.

Additionally, it appears as though there is more information that will come out that will likely lead to another NOA.

This biggest mistake that all involved are making at OM right now is that they are trying to preserve things. Trying to preserve current players, recruits, style of recruiting, etc...

What they don't realize is the quicker they destroy everything they currently have, the quicker they will get back. Their attempt to preserve has led to this band-aid being pulled off slowly & more painful than it should be.

They just can't come to grips with the fact that everything they were & currently are is a fraud &, by trying to hold onto that, they are delaying the inevitable.

[DogsofAnarchy]

I keep reading that now HF is gone, the NCAA will be more lenient.

What I see, is that if these "revelations " are shocking to the athletics dept,
Does that not give even MORE support behind the LOIC?

If their own people didn't know about HF and his escapades, especially w the rumors flowing for so long,
What else have they been blind to, like when it comes to lesser deals such as NCAA compliance.

IMO, this is another nail in the coffin, not one being removed.

Thoughts?

You're exactly right. Oh by the way, there is more damaging info to come. Just be patient.

[Coldsleeve Jr.]

No way NCAA is more lenient. If they had fired him for causing the investigation, then maybe. This, according to the NOAs, is unrelated.

[Political Hack]

There is no investigation.

It's just women's basketball and track.

It's mostly Nutt.

It's over.

This is a good thing.

[starkvegasdawg]

Just another bear 17 up to try and save face. If TSUN had any one there with the IQ above a tapeworm they would have said his firing had everything to do with the investigation. Then, just maybe, that theory might have a small bit of a chance. But no, to try and preserve their "image" they deny this and make it all about the hookers and actually say it has nothing to do with the NCAA investigation. So when they admit that why the hell would the NCAA decide to have mercy? They won't. And when the rest of this comes out there will be plenty of rueing and gnashing of teeth on the plantation.

[PassInterference]

NCAA won't forget Bjork and Freeze getting a promotion and extension right before NOA2 became official.

[coachnorm]

I keep reading that now HF is gone, the NCAA will be more lenient.

What I see, is that if these "revelations " are shocking to the athletics dept,
Does that not give even MORE support behind the LOIC?

If their own people didn't know about HF and his escapades, especially w the rumors flowing for so long,
What else have they been blind to, like when it comes to lesser deals such as NCAA compliance.

IMO, this is another nail in the coffin, not one being removed.

Thoughts?

I would like to plant a seed of thought into the minds of fellow Elite Doggers. When the Court ordered the phone data to HN legal team, everything changed. Now the OM situation is running its new course in parallel universes. With the Court now involved, its findings are binding and not discretionary. The NCAA can very well put itself in jeopardy if its actions do not align with the Court. This being said, I am saying that the NCAA has lost unfettered discretion in fact finding because others are now significantly involved and reporting to the Court.

I believe that the Court and not the NCAA is now the supreme fact finding agency. The NCAA can not act in a manner contrary to the facts as established in a court of law. I believe that the NCAA has shielded OM in the past and was secure with its absolute authority due to no one else getting involved. I believe that the NCAA has lost that security due to Court involvement and can not shield OM. Every one who has been involved with the past OM saga has to try to figure out who is going to be questioned on the stand and what is going to be said. Too may officials are too personally insecure to even factor in the removal of a head coach.

[yjnkdawg]

I can understand the Yancy, Chuck, David, etc. mentality on this thinking, but even a few of the National Sports Media people think the NCAA will accept OM's proposed sanctions and all will be well...... Unreal!!!!

[Reason2succeed]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEpBMWbXsAEFFlO?format=jpg

This will take on a whole new meaning.


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[somebodyshotmypaw]

Freeze being gone has no bearing on the facts. And he wasn't fired by Ole Miss to show that they want to run a clean program. They were behind him then and they are still behind him now (as far as the NCAA stuff goes).

It will hurt Ole Miss because much of their defense is "we run a clean program lead by a man of impeccable character and when he tells you we are clean then you should believe him." That narrative has now been hammered.

It will help Ole Miss in the fact that I expect Freeze to get a suspension and a show cause. That would have hurt Ole Miss if they kept him employed and tried to get through it. But now a suspension of Freeze and a show cause will only affect his next employer (unlikely he finds one anytime soon, if ever).

[coachnorm]

I can understand the Yancy, Chuck, David, etc. mentality on this thinking, but even a few of the National Sports Media people think the NCAA will accept OM's proposed sanctions and all will be well...... Unreal!!!!

The national media sure had it wrong with the USC - Reggie Bush saga. It took Court intervention to free up the real truth that no evidence existed to tie Bush parents benefits in San Diego to USC Football in Los Angeles. Remember this is stated in the in agency emails released to the public? The reckless and illegal conduct by the NCAA will really come to light when McNair and legal team gets paid.

If the national media could totally screw up by blindly listening to speculation in Los Angeles, they can duplicate in Oxford.

[PassInterference]

Props on use of the word, Frexit.