Something isnt right

[PMDawg]

After all the years of lying, covering up, and backing Freeze, they just did this way too fast. Too fast to act, too fast to admit Freeze did something bad, and too fast to let us believe it was escorts without actually saying it. Freeze too fast to let people believe it. Then, they beg people to respect his privacy. We all know there is something else there...more to come. It's rumored to be bad. Whatever it is, it must be really really bad. I just cant see another reason they act like this otherwise.

[Doggie_Style]

You know everyone is assuming that the escorts are females.....maybe, maybe not!

[Mjoelner34]

After all the years of lying, covering up, and backing Freeze, they just did this way too fast. Too fast to act, too fast to admit Freeze did something bad, and too fast to let us believe it was escorts without actually saying it. Freeze too fast to let people believe it. Then, they beg people to respect his privacy. We all know there is something else there...more to come. It's rumored to be bad. Whatever it is, it must be really really bad. I just cant see another reason they act like this otherwise.

Starkvegas and I were just talking about this very thing.

[I seen it dawg]

Oh It's Coming isn't completely here

[yjnkdawg]

If somebody made those calls on a State Agency issued cell phone, then they must not have been concerned about their privacy at that point in time.

[dawgoneyall]

Starkvegas and I were just talking about this very thing.

I smell a conspiracy.

[JoseBrown]

It happened extremely way too fast at lightening speed. If they have any control of their situation, I don't sense they're very confident about it.

[Martianlander]

Air is thin in Oxford. Tough for the sheep to reason.

[Coldsleeve Jr.]

It's my understanding compliance reviews HC phone records every month. No way they didn't know and instead allowed it. Not going to help in the LOIC department.

[Political Hack]

After all the years of lying, covering up, and backing Freeze, they just did this way too fast. Too fast to act, too fast to admit Freeze did something bad, and too fast to let us believe it was escorts without actually saying it. Freeze too fast to let people believe it. Then, they beg people to respect his privacy. We all know there is something else there...more to come. It's rumored to be bad. Whatever it is, it must be really really bad. I just cant see another reason they act like this otherwise.

This was the preamble. The "Mother Of All bombs" (MOAB) is still to come.

The most logical and prevailing theories are: 1) hookers for recruits and 2) his affair(s). Neither will be a shock to us here, but to the rest of the world it'll be downright scandalous. Personally, if it's hookers for cruits' they're done. Toast. Finito. Death.

Only other explanation to cut ties so quickly is that there are possible criminal charges coming. In fact, ole Miss may have to file charges against freeze to separate itself.

[dawggoneit]

You know everyone is assuming that the escorts are females.....maybe, maybe not!
Beaver do gnaw on wood!

[Maroonbulldog]

Oh It's Coming isn't completely here


I hear that's what Bucky said.

[gtowndawg]

I honestly don't know, but is there not some criminal element if a man is hiring hookers for 17 year old boys? I have no idea if true, although that rumor has been around now for a while. But it would seem NCAA would be the least of my concerns if they can somehow prove that.

[Political Hack]

I honestly don't know, but is there not some criminal element if a man is hiring hookers for 17 year old boys? I have no idea if true, although that rumor has been around now for a while. But it would seem NCAA would be the least of my concerns if they can somehow prove that.

What if the school account was being used to purchase escorts? They'd better pray like hell it was cash that can't be connected to an expense account.

[Bodawg]

What a better way to a recruit's commitment than some cash, clothes and a little poon. If these were minors, then the purchase of escorts/hookers has to be not only a NCAA violation, but a crime. If Bucky was involved with this, then he's got some splaining to do.

[TrapGame]

What if the school account was being used to purchase escorts? They'd better pray like hell it was cash that can't be connected to an expense account.


Credit card records are next. If the school paid for hookers they are finished. I mean out of the SEC finished. If some boosters paid for hookers for croots for years then it's pretty much the DP.

[Dolphus Raymond]

I was not on board regarding Ole Miss receiving the Death Penalty (DP) for their transgressions. However, should "hookers for recruits" become a reality, I believe the DP will be probable. Interestingly, it could come in the form of a self-imposed one year DP a la Tulane following the Hot Rod Willimas point shaving scandal. (The Tulane self-imposed DP was intended to be permanent, but lasted 2-3 years, I think.)
It appears more will be revealed in the coming days or weeks. Should it simply be more salacious details regarding Freeze's personal life, then meh. He has been exposed as a fraud, and what remains of his personal life is just that, personal. However, should this bleed over into recruiting, hold on for an even wilder and exciting ride.

[WSOPdawg]

This was the preamble. The "Mother Of All bombs" (MOAB) is still to come.

The most logical and prevailing theories are: 1) hookers for recruits and 2) his affair(s). Neither will be a shock to us here, but to the rest of the world it'll be downright scandalous. Personally, if it's hookers for cruits' they're done. Toast. Finito. Death.

Only other explanation to cut ties so quickly is that there are possible criminal charges coming. In fact, ole Miss may have to file charges against freeze to separate itself.

Only an individual that's been living in Siberia for the past 20 years (or has powder blue hanging in their closet) would think "hookers for recruits" is NOT logical.

That said and operating under the assumption it was "hookers for recruits" and there are possible criminal charges coming, would TCUN have already been made aware of a law enforcement agency homing in on the crimes of "paid sex for/with minors" or is it still pre-mature to think law enforcement has been notified to investigate? Because I agree, something has definitely spooked the TCUN camp to make them pull the plug on Freeze as fast as they did.

[yjnkdawg]

I honestly don't know, but is there not some criminal element if a man is hiring hookers for 17 year old boys? I have no idea if true, although that rumor has been around now for a while. But it would seem NCAA would be the least of my concerns if they can somehow prove that.



At one time there was also a rumor on their big weekend of recruits being transported to Memphis for .........watching the marching ducks in the Peabody Hotel? Maybe that was another mistake and there was another reason.

[ScottH]

What if the school account was being used to purchase escorts? They'd better pray like hell it was cash that can't be connected to an expense account.


The possibilities...

Does the Opportunity Fund count?

And what if ole Barn paid the lady entrepreneurs?

[PMDawg]

This was the preamble. The "Mother Of All bombs" (MOAB) is still to come.

The most logical and prevailing theories are: 1) hookers for recruits and 2) his affair(s). Neither will be a shock to us here, but to the rest of the world it'll be downright scandalous. Personally, if it's hookers for cruits' they're done. Toast. Finito. Death.

Only other explanation to cut ties so quickly is that there are possible criminal charges coming. In fact, ole Miss may have to file charges against freeze to separate itself.

Im thinking even worse. That is kind of what they want us to believe. Are we sure Freeze is still in the country? Haha

[Reason2succeed]

Surely one of the players mentioned the "entertainment" in the immunity interviews. However it would have been impossible for the investigators to corroborate the story with evidence since it was behind closed doors and was likely a cash transaction and they don't have the girls' testimony. Until now. All the NCAA would have to do is line up the dates of escort calls with the information given in the immunity interviews. If they line up voi la NOA 3!!!

[Bothrops]

Hookers for recruits is one...

[Bully75]

Check with Matt Luke on the hooker calls. Chris Jones could tell how it works. Just saying.......

[Mimi's Babies]

What if the school account was being used to purchase escorts? They'd better pray like hell it was cash that can't be connected to an expense account.

Where is the state auditor's office??? They should have already been at OM...

[Mimi's Babies]

Check with Matt Luke on the hooker calls. Chris Jones could tell how it works. Just saying.......

How many burner phones did Matt Luke have...... he has very dirty hands....

As my mother said...... Freeze has better be glad that the person, that they gave a prostitute too, was not my child.... You don't even have to ask... what would have happened.... Hahahaaha

[Lord McBuckethead]

Maybe we all should refer to these cheating asshats by their actual name, UM.

[RougeDawg]

Surely one of the players mentioned the "entertainment" in the immunity interviews. However it would have been impossible for the investigators to corroborate the story with evidence since it was behind closed doors and was likely a cash transaction and they don't have the girls' testimony. Until now. All the NCAA would have to do is line up the dates of escort calls with the information given in the immunity interviews. If they line up voi la NOA 3!!!

And the hookers, money, and phony agents were going to get Big Softie into trouble.

[bobtail bob]

The only story out there so far stems from the resignation announcement. Were they trying to get out in front of this ?
Said they had complied with the records request by Nutt's attorney. How long have Nutt and company had this info?
I haven't heard a peep from them. I agree there is some missing piece here

[Mimi's Babies]

The only story out there so far stems from the resignation announcement. Were they trying to get out in front of this ?
Said they had complied with the records request by Nutt's attorney. How long have Nutt and company had this info?
I haven't heard a peep from them. I agree there is some missing piece here

Nutt's attorney did receive part of the phone records... He has now, last week?, asked for ALL of the phone records of ALL employees...in OM ath. department
There are lots of missing pieces here... some of the answers will be on the BURNER PHONES>.... haha

[Dawg61]

Do federal charges for soliciting prostitutes for minors across state line work like other charges as in for each time it happened it is a charge? Could OM/Freeze be facing multiple charges for each recruiting cycle? Like 60 separate charges across 4 years type amount? Can someone put Freezus's face on this gif please

https://media.giphy.com/media/ivFQpdUZyNZeM/giphy.gif

[sorrydog]

The rest of the story may explain why some of the "Redacted" are so worried.

[coastdoglover]

The rest of the story may explain why some of the "Redacted" are so worried.

Their more women than hookers involved. Local women who Hugh took care of. Most of the insiders in the Ole Miss program knew this over a year ago. They even knew where he was meeting them. In typical Ole Miss fashion they have tried to spin this only one way. Stay tuned it will get better

[Bothrops]

So Freeze was hooking up with the hookers before or after the recruits had them?

[Dolphus Raymond]

For what it is worth, the rumor/speculation among some of the Ole Miss faithful is that Freeze is taking one for the team. Had a close friend and loyal Rebel tell me this today. I am not much of a conspiracy theory person, but the situation in Oxford is so disjointed that nothing would surprise me at this point. If Freeze's resignation is part of a larger cover-up, it will fall apart soon enough and at that point, this becomes SMU part two.

[Coursesuper]

For what it is worth, the rumor/speculation among some of the Ole Miss faithful is that Freeze is taking one for the team. Had a close friend and loyal Rebel tell me this today. I am not much of a conspiracy theory person, but the situation in Oxford is so disjointed that nothing would surprise me at this point. If Freeze's resignation is part of a larger cover-up, it will fall apart soon enough and at that point, this becomes SMU part two.

This is the exact info that I have had passed to me. If this is true it's an epic time to be a dawg.

[notsofarawaydawg]

Didn't I read in the Oxford newspaper a story about several prostitutes getting arrested in Oxford a few years ago. Seems like it was 2015. Several of the gals were from out of state if I remember correctly.

[TrapGame]

For what it is worth, the rumor/speculation among some of the Ole Miss faithful is that Freeze is taking one for the team. Had a close friend and loyal Rebel tell me this today. I am not much of a conspiracy theory person, but the situation in Oxford is so disjointed that nothing would surprise me at this point. If Freeze's resignation is part of a larger cover-up, it will fall apart soon enough and at that point, this becomes SMU part two.

Remember in the hostage video Bdork practically begging to stay in the SEC? They knew how big of a shit storm this really was and probation, lost schollies and a couple of lost bowl games will be the very least of their worries.

[RougeDawg]

Didn't I read in the Oxford newspaper a story about several prostitutes getting arrested in Oxford a few years ago. Seems like it was 2015. Several of the gals were from out of state if I remember correctly.

Had forgotten about it but do remember that story. Want to say it occurred close to a recruiting event, but I maybe way off with that part. The hookers part definitely happened.

[TrapGame]

Didn't I read in the Oxford newspaper a story about several prostitutes getting arrested in Oxford a few years ago. Seems like it was 2015. Several of the gals were from out of state if I remember correctly.

http://wjtv.com/2016/01/05/2-arrested-in-oxford-in-prostitution-sex-trafficking-operation/

This might be it but honestly they'd have to pay me.

[WSOPdawg]

For what it is worth, the rumor/speculation among some of the Ole Miss faithful is that Freeze is taking one for the team. Had a close friend and loyal Rebel tell me this today. I am not much of a conspiracy theory person, but the situation in Oxford is so disjointed that nothing would surprise me at this point. If Freeze's resignation is part of a larger cover-up, it will fall apart soon enough and at that point, this becomes SMU part two.


Remember in the hostage video Bdork practically begging to stay in the SEC? They knew how big of a shit storm this really was and probation, lost schollies and a couple of lost bowl games will be the very least of their worries.

Yup, my signature quotes him verbatim, and at that point and time, they knew the seriousness they were in but were just hoping the NCAA wouldn't find out. My guess is Freeze is definitely taking one for the team hoping the NCAA believes he is the one with the "Tiger Woods' sex problem" as opposed to the hookers being paid to entertain 17-yr old recruits.

Now can the dots be connected to show that these hookers were primarily used for the recruits? That is the question and if the answer is YES, TCUN will not field a team in 2018 or 2019.

[MeridianDog]

My belief is that history is in the making. Basketball girls in Memphis??? A daughter with a minor that no one knew about??? Extra marital affairs with a hairdresser in Oxford??? Multiple paid escort women obtained over University phone??? Escort women obtained with University money? Escort women obtained for minor age recruits??? Multi-million dollar lawsuit for non disclosure violation with Nutt??? Falsification of UM status shared with sports reporters to protect signing class???

Are all of these things true???

From the conclusion of this onward to the year 4397, everyone in the NCAA will know who the most questionable, biggest, most crooked team in college athletics is.

[JoseBrown]

If the women of the night were brought in from say, Nashville, for recruits in Oxford, you would have to think the Feds have already been on this though, right? Or not?

[Political Hack]

My belief is that history is in the making. Basketball girls in Memphis??? A daughter with a minor that no one knew about??? Extra marital affairs with a hairdresser in Oxford??? Multiple paid escort women obtained over University phone??? Escort women obtained with University money? Escort women obtained for minor age recruits??? Multi-million dollar lawsuit for non disclosure violation with Nutt??? Falsification of UM status shared with sports reporters to protect signing class???

Are all of these things true???

From the conclusion of this onward to the year 4397, everyone in the NCAA will know who the most questionable, biggest, most crooked team in college athletics is.

Strong.

[parabrave]

What a better way to a recruit's commitment than some cash, clothes and a little poon. If these were minors, then the purchase of escorts/hookers has to be not only a NCAA violation, but a crime. If Bucky was involved with this, then he's got some splaining to do.

Heck if it was boosters cash then there might be a few more people worrying. Might want to check flight plans to the Bahamas from Hawkins fiedl and Memphis the next few weeks.

[Matt3467]

A relative of mine went to school with one of our recruits that have since left and went to the NFL, but told me that the recruit told him that Ole Miss was bringing white women to his hotel room. I always assumed it happened but after hearing about it I was stunned.

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

I believe the prostitutes for recruits is being covered up but don't think these girls were apart of it for two reasons. One, hotel staffers suspected illegal activity in a room = just 1 room. Meaning these two were running an operation out of the room where multiple men came to them - hence, the notice of suspesiuos activity by staffers. I'm thinking the women that were bought or are currently being bought would show up at the recruits room not the other way around.

Two, I don't believe these women are nearly the quality of women that OM bought or are currently buying for recruits.

We're talking Platinum Plus for recruits vs these two being more on the scale of Danny's.

[PassInterference]

I'll say something doesn't seem right. This timeline and supporting evidence in this article raised questions about who the Tampa escort call was for.

https://westlotpirates.com/2017/07/22/freeze-ing-in-tampa/

[Dawg50]

I am very curious about the a particular blonde from Memphis, that was rumored to be in Oxford the weekend Chris Jones took his visit. Wasn't she the one with some legal trouble (newspaper article discussing prostitution) that threatened a lawsuit against anybody mentioning her name on message boards ?

[Dawg61]

Remember in the hostage video Bdork practically begging to stay in the SEC? They knew how big of a shit storm this really was and probation, lost schollies and a couple of lost bowl games will be the very least of their worries.

What is this? I don't remember seeing a hostage video. Anybody have a link to what TrapGame is referencing here? Thanks

Nevermind, figured it out, thanks though