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ShotgunDawg
07-19-2017, 10:33 AM
Rosebowl say Nutt's legal representation has requested Hugh Freeze's cell phone records since when he first took the OM job in 2012.

Additionally, Nutt's legal team has hired a counter terriosim, investigative expert.

Houston bout to get PAYED!

Tbonewannabe
07-19-2017, 10:41 AM
It seems Ole Nutt is looking for his Golden Parachute and if he doesn't find it then he is burning it all down like Sherman's march to the sea.

ShotgunDawg
07-19-2017, 10:44 AM
It seems Ole Nutt is looking for his Golden Parachute and if he doesn't find it then he is burning it all down like Sherman's march to the sea.

Yup. He has OM between a rock and a hard place.

The OM NCAA issues offer Houston leverage in a blackmail situation with the phone records being the naked pics.

Political Hack
07-19-2017, 10:48 AM
Rosebowl say Nutt's legal representation has requested Hugh Freeze's cell phone records since when he first took the OM job in 2012.

Additionally, Nutt's legal team has hired a counter terriosim, investigative expert.

Houston bout to get PAYED!

Nutt isn't looking to get paid. He's looking to protect what little of a legacy he has left. By exposing Freeze as the biggest cheater in the history of college football he will negate the stain on his name to a footnote when the final saga is printed.

I don't think they can buy this one back. It's about damn time Ole Miss runs into someone they can't buy.

Jarius
07-19-2017, 10:52 AM
Rosebowl say Nutt's legal representation has requested Hugh Freeze's cell phone records since when he first took the OM job in 2012.

Additionally, Nutt's legal team has hired a counter terriosim, investigative expert.

Houston bout to get PAYED!

Has the NCAA not already been through these records? They just went through a 5 year investigation through that program. You would think that they have already been through this stuff.

Mimi's Babies
07-19-2017, 10:55 AM
Someone is on to something for sure..... to Hire Fred Burton.....

Another threat toward Steve and his family is wrong.....

ScottH
07-19-2017, 10:56 AM
Nutt hired a very good attorney.

Very good.

Mimi's Babies
07-19-2017, 10:56 AM
Has the NCAA not already been through these records? They just went through a 5 year investigation through that program. You would think that they have already been through this stuff.

Not sure the NCAA can ask for those records. MS FOI's would have to be requested by a state of MS resident....

Jarius
07-19-2017, 11:05 AM
I think it's highly unlikely that the NCAA asks Ole Miss for university cell phone records and they tell them no. Maybe I'm wrong. We are talking about OM here.

MadDawg
07-19-2017, 11:09 AM
Rosebowl say Nutt's legal representation has requested Hugh Freeze's cell phone records since when he first took the OM job in 2012.

Additionally, Nutt's legal team has hired a counter terriosim, investigative expert.

Houston bout to get PAYED!

Looks like Hugh's "four-year colonoscopy" just found his tonsils.

ShotgunDawg
07-19-2017, 11:16 AM
And let it be said, this isn't Rosebowl's fault, Mullen's fault, SPEDS fault, or the NCAA's fault.

The entire cause of the Nutt lawsuit is on the leaders at OM

If they would've handled this with more grace and accountability, the law suit would not exist.

LockeDawg
07-19-2017, 11:18 AM
Not sure the NCAA can ask for those records. MS FOI's would have to be requested by a state of MS resident....

Why can't the NCAA ask for phone records? They penalize programs all the time for coaches having impermissible communications with recruits during dead period, it's a secondary violation but the NCAA has to review the phone records all the same. If the NCAA asks for records during an investigation, the school has to comply.

lamont
07-19-2017, 11:22 AM
NCAA can get University phone records- not personal ones

Pollodawg
07-19-2017, 11:22 AM
Nutt didn't hire Jo Jo Billy Bob Jones. He got a big gun who knows a big gun. Nutt wants blood. I 100% that this is personal, and he's out to ruin Freeze.

MSUDawg99
07-19-2017, 11:32 AM
I think it's highly unlikely that the NCAA asks Ole Miss for university cell phone records and they tell them no. Maybe I'm wrong. We are talking about OM here.

NCAA isn't involved in the Nutt lawsuit, I wouldn't think. I think it's a separate issue altogether. Nutt's atty can very much ask for phone records & has every right to receive them.

PassInterference
07-19-2017, 11:33 AM
Looks like Hugh's "four-year colonoscopy" just found his tonsils.

MadDawg off the top rope!

MSUDawg99
07-19-2017, 11:33 AM
I don't think this lawsuit has anything to do with the NCAA. This is a whole different situation entirely. Kind of like the fake news RR lawsuit. It will be a separate issue than the NCAA case vs UMess.

MSUDawg99
07-19-2017, 11:34 AM
If Steve Robertson can request phone records & receive them, I feel sure that Nutt's lawyer can & will do the same. No brainer.

PassInterference
07-19-2017, 11:34 AM
NCAA can get University phone records- not personal ones

When Nutt's case gets to discovery, he can get the personal ones. He's got a right to show Freeze is a cheating SOB.

regdawg18
07-19-2017, 11:37 AM
Not sure the NCAA can ask for those records. MS FOI's would have to be requested by a state of MS resident....

Actually anyone can request Mississippi public records. Not just MS residents.

ShotgunDawg
07-19-2017, 11:37 AM
I don't think this lawsuit has anything to do with the NCAA. This is a whole different situation entirely. Kind of like the fake news RR lawsuit. It will be a separate issue than the NCAA case vs UMess.

The NCAA investigation and the threat of more allegations offers Nutt leverage.

MSUDawg99
07-19-2017, 11:39 AM
The NCAA investigation and the threat of more allegations offers Nutt leverage.

I guess I don't understand how this works. I am headed to lunch & will listen to the Boneyard to see what Steve says.

gravedigger
07-19-2017, 11:53 AM
Why can't the NCAA ask for phone records? They penalize programs all the time for coaches having impermissible communications with recruits during dead period, it's a secondary violation but the NCAA has to review the phone records all the same. If the NCAA asks for records during an investigation, the school has to comply.

They can ask. Can't subpoena. They can threaten eligility of a player.

Really Clark?
07-19-2017, 12:16 PM
They can ask. Can't subpoena. They can threaten eligility of a player.

If it is a coach, not complying to the request is admission to the violation and hinderence of an investigation. That will get you a show cause. Coaches, staff, student athletes, school officials are required to comply with enforcement staff requests including phone records, interviews (which is why the idea from UNM that they should just refuse to talk was an option was just another absurd fallacy talking point).

Mimi's Babies
07-19-2017, 12:19 PM
Why can't the NCAA ask for phone records? They penalize programs all the time for coaches having impermissible communications with recruits during dead period, it's a secondary violation but the NCAA has to review the phone records all the same. If the NCAA asks for records during an investigation, the school has to comply.


NCAA can get University phone records- not personal ones

Random Poster -- ??? Has anyone said if OM redact all the other calls except between recruits... which weren't many since the "burner" phones were used. If they did redact all other calls -- this will get very interesting.... I sure hope to see ALL the phone records of ALL the coaches present and those terminated......

How many have sent request the phone records???

starkvegasdawg
07-19-2017, 12:34 PM
Without mentioning names he straight up called Yancy a liar and said if any tsun people are getting their hopes up based on what he's saying they're in for a bad time.

Jarius
07-19-2017, 12:41 PM
NCAA isn't involved in the Nutt lawsuit, I wouldn't think. I think it's a separate issue altogether. Nutt's atty can very much ask for phone records & has every right to receive them.


I'm sure they are not. That's not my point. My point is that the NCAA has done a 5 year investigation on Ole Miss and if there was anything in those phone records you would think that the NCAA would have already found it as it pertains to something that any of us would care about.

Travelingdawg
07-19-2017, 01:23 PM
What about the missing emails ?

lamont
07-19-2017, 01:25 PM
I'm sure they are not. That's not my point. My point is that the NCAA has done a 5 year investigation on Ole Miss and if there was anything in those phone records you would think that the NCAA would have already found it as it pertains to something that any of us would care about.

The NCAA checked the phone records for recruit's numbers. Nothing more. They didn't care about him calling High Cotton or whomever else. Didn't pertain to their investigation

Dolphus Raymond
07-19-2017, 01:46 PM
Nutt is out to drive a stake through the heart of what is left of Hugh Freeze's coaching career and the Ole Miss football program.

Jarius
07-19-2017, 02:10 PM
The NCAA checked the phone records for recruit's numbers. Nothing more. They didn't care about him calling High Cotton or whomever else. Didn't pertain to their investigation

If he called an escort service they would certainly care about that. He would have a lot of explaining to do to them about why he called them and prove it was not for recruits.

LockeDawg
07-19-2017, 02:23 PM
If he called an escort service they would certainly care about that. He would have a lot of explaining to do to them about why he called them and prove it was not for recruits.

I agree 100% ~ the Louisville/Petino case was under investigation at the same time. The NCAA would've had the dogs sniffing out every freaking number on those records and they should've checked into anything even randomly related to strippers/escort services/titty bars, etc. They were investigating for years, they have the resources to conduct a thorough investigation and they should have canvassed ALL phone numbers on record.

PassInterference
07-19-2017, 02:37 PM
I agree 100% ~ the Louisville/Petino case was under investigation at the same time. The NCAA would've had the dogs sniffing out every freaking number on those records and they should've checked into anything even randomly related to strippers/escort services/titty bars, etc. They were investigating for years, they have the resources to conduct a thorough investigation and they should have canvassed ALL phone numbers on record.


You sound like the NCAA had Hugh's phone records. I believe that is not the case.

yjnkdawg
07-19-2017, 03:37 PM
For those who think Nutt is looking for a big pay day off this, well he certainly may get that. However , I think the intend is to show Ole Miss that the media and the general public haven't seen anything yet on Ole Miss and Freeze's mistakes compared to forthcoming information revealed from these requested phone records. That was a stupid move on Ole Miss' part trying to take Nutt down while praising Freeze, and now it's payback time and I think they are going at the jugular of Freeze on his so-called mistakes.

LockeDawg
07-19-2017, 03:37 PM
You sound like the NCAA had Hugh's phone records. I believe that is not the case.

I was responding in reference to post #29 above (RandomPoster) who said, "the NCAA checked phone records for recruits numbers. Nothing more. They didn't care about him calling High Coton or whomever else. Didn't pertain to their investigation."

IMO, "if" the NCAA had Freeze's phone records then they should have checked every number on record including random numbers for strippers/escort services, etc. The Louisville investigation was in progress, so strippers/escorts was on the radar.

Jack Lambert
07-19-2017, 04:08 PM
If he called an escort service they would certainly care about that. He would have a lot of explaining to do to them about why he called them and prove it was not for recruits.

He probably needs to explain to the state of Mississippi why he is using state owned phone for such.

Coldsleeve Jr.
07-19-2017, 04:22 PM
Even if the NCAA has Freeze's phone records, they probably aren't trying to find out who every single number belongs to. My guess is that's what this former counter terrorism expert is going to do.

starkvegasdawg
07-19-2017, 04:53 PM
Another thing of note is he said after he announced he had those phone records he received a lot more threats so he was going back to the sherriff's dept to file a report. We're obsessed but they're the school who has a lot of fans over an extended period threatening the safety of Steve and his family to the extent he feels the need to file a police report.

HSVDawg
07-19-2017, 05:20 PM
Not sure the NCAA can ask for those records. MS FOI's would have to be requested by a state of MS resident....

The NCAA has absolutely reviewed the records. Absolutely zero chance that hasn't happened.

BeastMan
07-19-2017, 05:34 PM
Unless I misheard, another nugget I got was Farrar getting new representation after his response/statement. Has he changed course?

Mimi's Babies
07-19-2017, 05:57 PM
What about the missing emails ?

Every email sent or received on ANY university computer, lap top, etc. is saved and can be retrieved by IT at said university....

Mimi's Babies
07-19-2017, 06:00 PM
Unless I misheard, another nugget I got was Farrar getting new representation after his response/statement. Has he changed course?

Some one else asked this very question today. Did BF add additional counsel or obtain new counsel. If he obtained new counsel the notice to the NCAA should be on file or does he have to notify the NCAA?

JDog13
07-19-2017, 06:23 PM
Unless I misheard, another nugget I got was Farrar getting new representation after his response/statement. Has he changed course?

The best flipmas of all. That statement release from BF that all the bears were beating their chest over? That release was handed to ole miss before they threw him under the bus. He's not talking to HF anymore.

msbulldog
07-19-2017, 06:34 PM
The best flipmas of all. That statement release from BF that all the bears were beating their chest over? That release was handed to ole miss before they threw him under the bus. He's not talking to HF anymore.

There's your sign!

BeastMan
07-19-2017, 08:28 PM
The best flipmas of all. That statement release from BF that all the bears were beating their chest over? That release was handed to ole miss before they threw him under the bus. He's not talking to HF anymore.

Ya but how does that play with the NCAA? "Ya, that response I gave you was a total lie but now I'm prepared to tell the truth..."

Lumpy Chucklelips
07-19-2017, 09:28 PM
Let me ask this about bf. I asked before but got no responses. If bf is the villain, and was thrown under the bus by om, would he still be rubbing elbows with the residents of Oxford? You would think someone that has gone through what he has would hit the road. So why is he still in Oxford and going about his business like nothing has happened?

JDog13
07-19-2017, 09:29 PM
Ya but how does that play with the NCAA? "Ya, that response I gave you was a total lie but now I'm prepared to tell the truth..."

No doubt there. I imagine it won't help him, but if the NCAA interviewed him again, bye bye Hugh. 4 different players whose benefits couldn't be corroborated, will be.

AlmostPositive
07-19-2017, 09:39 PM
Let me ask this about bf. I asked before but got no responses. If bf is the villain, and was thrown under the bus by om, would he still be rubbing elbows with the residents of Oxford? You would think someone that has gone through what he has would hit the road. So why is he still in Oxford and going about his business like nothing has happened?

Does anyone actually think that Barney Farrar risked his career and livelihood by arranging payments and other impermissible benefits without anyone else on staff even knowing? It is absurd on its face. Yet OM has predicated the bulk of their defense on this ridiculous premise.

FISHDAWG
07-20-2017, 07:42 AM
Does anyone actually think that Barney Farrar risked his career and livelihood by arranging payments and other impermissible benefits without anyone else on staff even knowing? It is absurd on its face. Yet OM has predicated the bulk of their defense on this ridiculous premise.

Maybe Barney and Nutt should combine their resources and notes on this one in a glorious joint venture

Jarius
07-20-2017, 08:11 AM
Unless I misheard, another nugget I got was Farrar getting new representation after his response/statement. Has he changed course?

This is my bet to be what finishes them off totally. BF knows he is toast and he is pissed that OM threw him under the bus. Them not taking care of him will put the final nail in the coffin imo.

JDog13
07-20-2017, 08:12 AM
Maybe Barney and Nutt should combine their resources and notes on this one in a glorious joint venture

BF's lawyer is in contact with Nutt's