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Quaoarsking
09-15-2013, 05:06 PM
I'm not on board the "Fire Mullen" bandwagon, and I honestly don't think there's any way he gets fired after this season. Of course, I thought that about Croom in 2008, even as late as the 11th game of the season, and I wouldn't be completely stunned if Dan made a lateral move to a similar-level program in another conference.

Even though I think Mullen is pretty likely to be our head coach in 2014, I've compiled some names we should keep in mind. I'm going to try to keep the list to coaches who would plausibly take the job, although this can be very difficult to judge. We don't always know how happy a coach is at his job -- I was shocked when Arkansas hired Bret Bielema last year, so it's possible the SEC pull may attract a similar hire for us. But if we know a coach is at his dream job (Kliff Kingsbury), I won't bother listing him. These are in no certain order:

Current head coaches who have had success and we could probably hire
Rob Ambrose, HC Towson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ambrose) (turned around a terrible Towson program)
Craig Bohl, HC North Dakota State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Bohl) (he may be a Petersen, but I can't imagine him turning down the SEC)
Dave Clawson, HC Bowling Green (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Clawson)
Mark Hudspeth, HC Louisiana Lafayette (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hudspeth) (the favorite)
June Jones, HC SMU (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_Jones) (formerly HC Hawai'i)
Mike Leach, HC Washington State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Leach_(coach)) (formerly HC Texas Tech)
Bobby Petrino, HC Western Kentucky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Petrino) (Stricklin, the SEC, or the boosters might veto)
Bob Stitt, HC Colorado Mines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Stitt) (has been called the best offensive mind in football)

Longshots, but maybe the SEC would appeal to them. Couldn't hurt to ask.
Art Briles, HC Baylor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Briles)
Sonny Dykes, HC California (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Dykes) (Does he fit into the culture of Berkeley, CA?)
Mike Gundy, HC Oklahoma State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Gundy) (he flirted with Tennessee and Arkansas last year. With the SI story, he may get fired or want the hell out of dodge)
Bronco Mendenhall, HC BYU (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronco_Mendenhall) (I doubt we lure a Mormon away from BYU, but he's a great coach and worth a call)
Chris Petersen, HC Boise State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Petersen) (not happening)
Mark Richt, HC Georgia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Richt) (obviously only a possibility if Georgia moronically fires him)
Rich Rodriguez, HC Arizona (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Rodriguez)
Charlie Strong, HC Louisville (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Strong)

Head coaching experience, but too little to actually judge. Were good coordinators
Tim DeRuyter, HC Fresno State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_DeRuyter) (been decent at Fresno, but a former Big 12 DC is scary)
Bryan Harsin, HC Arkansas State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Harsin) (formerly OC Boise State and Texas. Arkansas State is SEC coaching factory.)
Jim McElwain, HC Colorado State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_McElwain) (formerly OC Alabama)
Todd Monken, HC Southern Miss (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Monken) (formerly OC Oklahoma State)

Good coordinators. Should be able to hire any of these unless someone "better" does first.
Major Applewhite, OC Texas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Applewhite) (The moral guardians might veto. May have stigma of Texas's recent slide)
Mike Bobo, OC Georgia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Bobo)
Bob Diaco, DC Notre Dame (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Diaco)
Bud Foster, DC Virginia Tech (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Foster) (he may just not want to be a head coach)
Tony Franklin, OC California (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Franklin_(coach)) (Literally copyrighted the Spread Offense. Not very good at Auburn as OC though)
Chuck Martin, OC Notre Dame (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Martin_(American_football)) (74-7 as HC Grand Valley State)
Philip Montgomery, OC Baylor (http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/philip_montgomery_350366.html) (Elijah Staley could be the next RG3)
Chad Morris, OC Clemson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Morris)
Brent Pease, OC Florida (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Pease)
Kirby Smart, DC Alabama (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_Smart)
Justin Wilcox, DC Washington (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Wilcox_(American_football_coach)) (formerly DC Tennessee. Not involved with that 67-56 bowl game.)

Retreads
Jeff Bower, former HC Southern Miss (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bower_(American_football))
Manny Diaz, former DC Mississippi State and Texas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Diaz_(American_football_coach))
Phil Fulmer, former HC Tennessee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Fulmer)
Lane Kiffin, HC USC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lane_Kiffin)
Jim Tressel, former HC Ohio State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Tressel) (Does he have a show cause penalty?)
Tommy Tuberville, HC Cincinnati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Tuberville)

CadaverDawg
09-15-2013, 05:17 PM
Good list, but it makes me definitely want to keep Mullen one more year once you look at who we "legitimately" have a shot at. Seems like a lot of guys that could do as good or worse than Mullen has.

Maybe that's just me though.

msstate7
09-15-2013, 05:22 PM
I think major applewhite should be added to list.

And that's why you read the whole list. Sorry q

BeastMan
09-15-2013, 05:25 PM
Holy hell Quars, that's impressive. Fwiw Jim McElwain was the OC at Bama. I think Hud would be the front runner but I've always liked Chad Morris at Clemson. People forget that Dabo was on the ropes and Moriss has essentially saved him. His system works w/our personnel so it wouldn't be an offensive overhaul like if we went air raid or pro style

msstate7
09-15-2013, 05:27 PM
Holy hell Quars, that's impressive. Fwiw Jim McElwain was the OC at Bama. I think Hud would be the front runner but I've always liked Chad Morris at Clemson. People forget that Dabo was on the ropes and Moriss has essentially saved him. His system works w/our personnel so it wouldn't be an offensive overhaul like if we went air raid or pro style

I'm not sure we can get Morris. He's very hot candidate...

msstate7
09-15-2013, 05:29 PM
I think bronco mendenhall would be a very good candidate if we could get him

Dawgface
09-15-2013, 05:32 PM
The long shots are just that, long shots. You can strike those. And I wouldn't care for the retreads. But lot's of possibilities.

HereComesTheSpiral
09-15-2013, 05:51 PM
I like Kirby Smart if Hud isn't an option

msstate7
09-15-2013, 05:56 PM
I like Kirby Smart if Hud isn't an option

Smart gonna stay under saban to get the job when he retires.

HereComesTheSpiral
09-15-2013, 05:59 PM
Smart gonna stay under saban to get the job when he retires.

He might leave then come back, but whenever you step out on your own from under a great one, you become extremely wanted or untouchable. See Dan Mullen.

msstate7
09-15-2013, 06:01 PM
He might leave then come back, but whenever you step out on your own from under a great one, you become extremely wanted or untouchable. See Dan Mullen.

I would take smart if he was available. I just think if he leaves saban it'll be out of conference or at least to the east

bluelightstar
09-15-2013, 06:05 PM
I'm not sure we can get Morris. He's very hot candidate...

And we all know how much Stricklin likes Clemson assistants

msstate7
09-15-2013, 06:06 PM
And we all know how much Stricklin likes Clemson assistants

I'd be impressed if Scott could pull that off

missouridawg
09-15-2013, 06:08 PM
I think major applewhite should be added to list.

And that's why you read the whole list. Sorry q

For the love of God, no. Major Applewhite? Really?

msstate7
09-15-2013, 06:12 PM
For the love of God, no. Major Applewhite? Really?

Major was once thought to be a great head coach prospect. He's not my favorite by any means, but I'd interview him if he was interested. Major has worked under some great coaches. Hard to believe Mack brown was once a great coach but he was

PMDawg
09-15-2013, 06:36 PM
Ellis Johnson????!! 0-12 at USM Ellis Johnson? I would quit watching sports.

msstate7
09-15-2013, 06:42 PM
Ellis Johnson????!! 0-12 at USM Ellis Johnson? I would quit watching sports.

If they would've been patient with Ellis, he'd be top 25 this year ****

hacker
09-15-2013, 06:59 PM
loling at the fact that Ellis Johnson 's 0-12 season wasn't mentioned.

God, please, let's keep Mullen.

CadaverDawg
09-15-2013, 07:02 PM
loling at the fact that Ellis Johnson 's 0-12 season wasn't mentioned.

God, please, let's keep Mullen.

I know, I had not even seen Ellis on that list until PM mentioned it. Mullen may not be a bad option!

It_Could_Happen
09-15-2013, 07:32 PM
Chad Morris at Clemson would be the hire of the century

Will James
09-15-2013, 07:34 PM
Smart gonna stay under saban to get the job when he retires.

Dabo might have something to say about the post-Satan era of Bama football.

Political Hack
09-15-2013, 08:05 PM
lmao. Anyone saying anything but Hud doesn't understand who's paying the salaries in Starkville.

It_Could_Happen
09-15-2013, 08:11 PM
Dabo might have something to say about the post-Satan era of Bama football.

No way Alabama hires a coach who runs the spread. The bear would roll over in his grave

Will James
09-15-2013, 08:17 PM
No way Alabama hires a coach who runs the spread. The bear would roll over in his grave

It could happen*

War Machine Dawg
09-15-2013, 08:20 PM
lmao. Anyone saying anything but Hud doesn't understand who's paying the salaries in Starkville.

This is what pisses me off the most as a State fan. We'd rather employ the GOB Network and rubber stamp the next HC than do a real coaching search and see if we can do better. If we don't at least make a call to gauge the interest of Chad Morris, then we're ****ing dumbasses that don't deserve to have a football program.

Political Hack
09-15-2013, 08:24 PM
This is what pisses me off the most as a State fan. We'd rather employ the GOB Network and rubber stamp the next HC than do a real coaching search and see if we can do better. If we don't at least make a call to gauge the interest of Chad Morris, then we're ****ing dumbasses that don't deserve to have a football program.

Didn't say I agree with it, but it is what it is. If some other big boys decide they want to look around it could happen, but if Strick wants CDM's buyout money he's more than likely going to have to hire Hud. We might do a coaching search and talk to people, but I'll be pretty surprised if he spits in the face of the people who fund the buyout.

Quaoarsking
09-15-2013, 08:29 PM
Ellis Johnson????!! 0-12 at USM Ellis Johnson? I would quit watching sports.

<facepalm> Can't believe I forgot about that. Obviously there's a 0% chance he would be our next head coach, and he's been removed from the list.

mic
09-15-2013, 08:30 PM
I know for a fact that the current head coach at Utah would have taken the job if we had offered back in '09 and was ready for an interview if CDM had left few years ago when other schools were courting him..

Quaoarsking
09-15-2013, 08:32 PM
Could add another extremely unlikely possibility: Perhaps Chip Kelly bombs in the NFL and we hire him after the 2014 season, if we're the most prestigious team open to the Kelly offense looking for a coach then.

msstate7
09-15-2013, 08:36 PM
I realize this would probably never happen, but is Jim tressel interested in coaching again?

msstate7
09-15-2013, 08:38 PM
Could add another extremely unlikely possibility: Perhaps Chip Kelly bombs in the NFL and we hire him after the 2014 season, if we're the most prestigious team open to the Kelly offense looking for a coach then.

A big program would get rid of a coach for chip.

Quaoarsking
09-15-2013, 08:43 PM
I realize this would probably never happen, but is Jim tressel interested in coaching again?

He has a show cause penalty until December 2016, so it would have to be after Mullen's 8th season.

msstate7
09-15-2013, 08:51 PM
He has a show cause penalty until December 2016, so it would have to be after Mullen's 8th season.

Q on top of things. Wonder if tressel coaches again then

CadaverDawg
09-15-2013, 09:57 PM
This is going to sound bad, and Ray may end up being good, but.....I would almost rather Scott hire Hud without searching so that we avoid a situation like the basketball hire. We could have gotten a bigger name (maybe not near as big as we thought), but Scott likes a "think outside the box" approach, and we don't need any of that nerdy shit risking a program killing hire in the SEC West in football. We can get by in basketball bc the SEC sucks...but **** up with a Rick Ray hire in football one good time and you could set the program back for 10-15 years in this beast of a league

Bullmutt
09-16-2013, 10:41 AM
Were we to find ourselves in the position of having no choice but to find a new HC, I would be all in favor of hiring a great [I]defensive [I]mind- a guy who can recruit and develop SEC caliber defenses. This still remains, IMHO, a defensive conference, and you seldom see SEC champs who don't have great defenses.

It_Could_Happen
09-16-2013, 10:53 AM
It could happen*

Very clever. Another name to look at... Charlie Strong.

AROB44
09-16-2013, 11:17 AM
Didn't say I agree with it, but it is what it is. If some other big boys decide they want to look around it could happen, but if Strick wants CDM's buyout money he's more than likely going to have to hire Hud. We might do a coaching search and talk to people, but I'll be pretty surprised if he spits in the face of the people who fund the buyout.


This is what has been the major problem at State for as long as I can remember and it has zero chance of changing. This is why we will always be on the outside looking in. It's a shame that the ones with the $$$ want to "big dick it" instead of winning.

godlluB
09-16-2013, 11:56 AM
How about James Franklin (Vandy) as a long shot. He must be the best recruiter in history based on what he's done there. He certainly has the intensity. I doubt he'd be interested, but if you're putting Charlie Strong and Chris Petersen on the list, why not Franklin?

msstate7
09-16-2013, 01:20 PM
How about James Franklin (Vandy) as a long shot. He must be the best recruiter in history based on what he's done there. He certainly has the intensity. I doubt he'd be interested, but if you're putting Charlie Strong and Chris Petersen on the list, why not Franklin?

I think Franklin is unhappy with vandy fans' support. He could leave