Booster's names...

[Acid mouth]

Unless I'm reading the NOA wrong, it looks like they redacted all the booster names. Am I missing something? What's the next step to out these punk asses?

[lamont]

holding off until July 7th when the Ethics Committee rules

[ShotgunDawg]

What a 17ing joke.

My guess is their will be another appeal then? and again, and again, and again.

Hopefully the NCAA notices this & realizes it's lack of good faith & accountability

[Acid mouth]

Thanks RP. Didn't they tell the committee that they'd release the names with the NOA? So they just lied to the committee during the last meeting?

[Really Clark?]

Thanks RP. Didn't they tell the committee that they'd release the names with the NOA? So they just lied to the committee during the last meeting?

No they didn't lie. It was the Motion by "John Doe" booster that threw a wrench in that. The Ethics Commission is allowing him to present a written statement to determine if they will allow him to argue that his name should be redacted for privacy issues.

[beretta]

fyi....the IHL board is royally pissed that their name has been brought into the situation....they think it is a smoke screen for the motion to be filed in hinds county to keep boosters name a secret.....in other words, no reason to have IHL board involved.....so John Doe is likely not a jackson area guy....at least that is what they think....you have to be appointed by the governor to be on the IHL board.....that and the fact UM is stalling after being denied is really pointing a middle finger at the state of ms ......they apparently want "more clarity and understanding" under the privacy rules they were denied.

[Bass Chaser]

What about just requesting a copy of all disassociation letters that were sent by the university between 2011-17?

[SailingDawg]

This is a response, not the actual NOA, so we'll have to wait for that to be publicized to see names.

[Acid mouth]

This is a response, not the actual NOA, so we'll have to wait for that to be publicized to see names.

What is the ETA for the unredacted NOA to come out? July 7th or possibly earlier??

[csdawg13]

This is a response, not the actual NOA, so we'll have to wait for that to be publicized to see names.

Redacted noa available here: https://www.scribd.com/document/350452600/2017-Notice-of-Allegations-Redacted#fullscreen&from_embed

[SailingDawg]

Redacted noa available here: https://www.scribd.com/document/350452600/2017-Notice-of-Allegations-Redacted#fullscreen&from_embed

Is that the first or the second?

[Political Hack]

fyi....the IHL board is royally pissed that their name has been brought into the situation....they think it is a smoke screen for the motion to be filed in hinds county to keep boosters name a secret.....in other words, no reason to have IHL board involved.....so John Doe is likely not a jackson area guy....at least that is what they think....you have to be appointed by the governor to be on the IHL board.....that and the fact UM is stalling after being denied is really pointing a middle finger at the state of ms ......they apparently want "more clarity and understanding" under the privacy rules they were denied.

Two of the guys are Jackson area guys, but there's over a dozen boosters referenced in the case.

[csdawg13]

Is that the first or the second?

2017, includes LOIC. I don't have time to cross-reference it against the original, but it's very heavily expanded.

[starkvegasdawg]

No they didn't lie. It was the Motion by "John Doe" booster that threw a wrench in that. The Ethics Commission is allowing him to present a written statement to determine if they will allow him to argue that his name should be redacted for privacy issues.
And you can rest assured this wrench chunking was carefully timed and orchestrated ploy by the admin to delay things.

[Really Clark?]

What is the ETA for the unredacted NOA to come out? July 7th or possibly earlier??

If the Ethics Commission denies "John Doe" booster because his written response in not sufficient for his Motion to Intervene (which is due any day now), then the names would have to be released in the NOA pretty soon. However, I do suspect that they allow him to argue his motion and then rule later. If they reject his motion at that time then we should get the NOA without the boosters redacted names about a month from now or so.

[#660000]

Here are the boosters I put together in the other thread:

As part of his ministry, including his work with several faith-based schools, [Booster 1] routinely arranged free housing with host families for at-risk students seeking educational opportunities. Several of these out-of-area students (including athletes and non-athletes) were allowed to stay at [Booster 1’s] home.

Booster 2 is the driver, a "huddle leader" with FCA at the prospects school, and also attended an in-home with Freeze.
On December 3, 2012, [Booster 2] attended an in-home recruiting visit by M. Harris and Freeze that occurred at [Student-Athlete 5's] residence. Additionally, [Booster 2] notified M. Harris in advance of the visit that he would be attending the visit, and both he and Freeze interacted with [Booster 2] during the visit.

--Tunsil--
[Booster 3], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided impermissible extra benefits in the form of complimentary vehicle use to then football student-athlete
the University has disassociated [Booster 3] and its owner, [Booster 4]

[Booster 5], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided an impermissible extra benefit in the form of $800 cash to [Family Member 1], then stepfather of then football student-athlete [Student-Athlete 1]
the University has disassociated [Booster 5]

--Booster 6 is the hotel guy--
[Booster 6], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided impermissible extra benefits in the form of 12 nights' free lodging in Oxford, Mississippi
The University has accordingly disassociated [Booster 6]

[Booster 7's] hunting land

[Booster 8] is a retailer located in Oxford, Mississippi, that specializes in selling merchandise associated with the institution.
[Booster 9], a representative of the institution’s athletics interests, is the founder and president of the business.

--Leo--
[Booster 10], a representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided between $200 and $600 in impermissible recruiting inducements in the form of cash payments and free food and drinks to then football prospective student-athlete [Student-Athlete 39] and [Student-Athlete 39’s] friends and family. Specifically, on two or three occasions in conjunction with recruiting visits to the institution, [Booster 10] provided [Student-Athlete 39] with cash payments of between $100 and $200, as well as provided free food and drinks to [Student-Athlete 39], his friends and family.

[Booster 11], an Oxford-area restaurant and bar, on more than one occasion and that [Booster 10], the owner of [Booster 11], had in-person and telephone contact with [Student-Athlete 39]. Although the record is not clear on who provided what, the University also believes that [Student-Athlete 39] and his friends likely received free food and drinks at [Booster 11] on at least one occasion

[Booster 12], [Booster 14’s] employee
Farrar undertook to systematically undermine the University’s monitoring efforts, including using a third party [Booster 13] to perform many of the prohibited actions
[Booster 14] provided [Student-Athlete 39] with cash payments of between $500 and $800 using [Booster 12] as the courier for the payments.
[Booster 14], a representative of the institution's athletics interests, assisted the institution in its recruitment of then football prospective student-athlete [Student-Athlete 39] by engaging in recruiting activities that promoted the institution's football program. [Booster 14's] activities included engaging in impermissible recruiting contact and communication with [Student-Athlete 39] and providing him with between $13,000 and $15,600 in impermissible cash payments.
The University has accordingly disassociated [Booster 13] and [Booster 12]
the University has dissociated both [Booster 14] and [Booster 12]

[Really Clark?]

And you can rest assured this wrench chunking was carefully timed and orchestrated ploy by the admin to delay things.

I'm not sure it was the administration as much as it was the staff and boosters themselves. I suspect there is at least a few names that connect them with staff members that weakens their individual stance. Especially Freeze and Farrar.

[BeardoMSU]

Here are the boosters I put together in the other thread:

As part of his ministry, including his work with several faith-based schools, [Booster 1] routinely arranged free housing with host families for at-risk students seeking educational opportunities. Several of these out-of-area students (including athletes and non-athletes) were allowed to stay at [Booster 1’s] home.

Booster 2 is the driver, a "huddle leader" with FCA at the prospects school, and also attended an in-home with Freeze.
On December 3, 2012, [Booster 2] attended an in-home recruiting visit by M. Harris and Freeze that occurred at [Student-Athlete 5's] residence. Additionally, [Booster 2] notified M. Harris in advance of the visit that he would be attending the visit, and both he and Freeze interacted with [Booster 2] during the visit.

--Tunsil--
[Booster 3], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided impermissible extra benefits in the form of complimentary vehicle use to then football student-athlete
the University has disassociated [Booster 3] and its owner, [Booster 4]

[Booster 5], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided an impermissible extra benefit in the form of $800 cash to [Family Member 1], then stepfather of then football student-athlete [Student-Athlete 1]
the University has disassociated [Booster 5]

--Booster 6 is the hotel guy--
[Booster 6], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided impermissible extra benefits in the form of 12 nights' free lodging in Oxford, Mississippi
The University has accordingly disassociated [Booster 6]

[Booster 7's] hunting land

[Booster 8] is a retailer located in Oxford, Mississippi, that specializes in selling merchandise associated with the institution.
[Booster 9], a representative of the institution’s athletics interests, is the founder and president of the business.

--Leo--
[Booster 10], a representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided between $200 and $600 in impermissible recruiting inducements in the form of cash payments and free food and drinks to then football prospective student-athlete [Student-Athlete 39] and [Student-Athlete 39’s] friends and family. Specifically, on two or three occasions in conjunction with recruiting visits to the institution, [Booster 10] provided [Student-Athlete 39] with cash payments of between $100 and $200, as well as provided free food and drinks to [Student-Athlete 39], his friends and family.

[Booster 11], an Oxford-area restaurant and bar, on more than one occasion and that [Booster 10], the owner of [Booster 11], had in-person and telephone contact with [Student-Athlete 39]. Although the record is not clear on who provided what, the University also believes that [Student-Athlete 39] and his friends likely received free food and drinks at [Booster 11] on at least one occasion

[Booster 12], [Booster 14’s] employee
Farrar undertook to systematically undermine the University’s monitoring efforts, including using a third party [Booster 13] to perform many of the prohibited actions
[Booster 14] provided [Student-Athlete 39] with cash payments of between $500 and $800 using [Booster 12] as the courier for the payments.
[Booster 14], a representative of the institution's athletics interests, assisted the institution in its recruitment of then football prospective student-athlete [Student-Athlete 39] by engaging in recruiting activities that promoted the institution's football program. [Booster 14's] activities included engaging in impermissible recruiting contact and communication with [Student-Athlete 39] and providing him with between $13,000 and $15,600 in impermissible cash payments.
The University has accordingly disassociated [Booster 13] and [Booster 12]
the University has dissociated both [Booster 14] and [Booster 12]

Good job. So....these 14 boosters are all rogue(s), lol? Kinda hard to claim this isn't systemic in the OM community...

[JoseBrown]

Is Booster 13's name maybe 'Cinnamon'? Or 'Bambi'?

[confucius say]

They say booster 14 was also farrars personal attorney

[Boodawg]

Has there ever been this many boosters involved in any previous investigation? And it's rouge, not rogue Beardo.***

[BeardoMSU]

And it's rouge, not rogue Beardo.***

Dammit!!!!**

[WSOPdawg]

Has there ever been this many boosters involved in any previous investigation? And it's rouge, not rogue Beardo.***


Dammit!!!!**

Grrrrr...
rouge = cosmetic product
rogue = going off the reservation and against the system

[Mimi's Babies]

Here are the boosters I put together in the other thread:

As part of his ministry, including his work with several faith-based schools, [Booster 1] routinely arranged free housing with host families for at-risk students seeking educational opportunities. Several of these out-of-area students (including athletes and non-athletes) were allowed to stay at [Booster 1?s] home.

Booster 2 is the driver, a "huddle leader" with FCA at the prospects school, and also attended an in-home with Freeze.
On December 3, 2012, [Booster 2] attended an in-home recruiting visit by M. Harris and Freeze that occurred at [Student-Athlete 5's] residence. Additionally, [Booster 2] notified M. Harris in advance of the visit that he would be attending the visit, and both he and Freeze interacted with [Booster 2] during the visit.

--Tunsil--
[Booster 3], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided impermissible extra benefits in the form of complimentary vehicle use to then football student-athlete
the University has disassociated [Booster 3] and its owner, [Booster 4]

[Booster 5], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided an impermissible extra benefit in the form of $800 cash to [Family Member 1], then stepfather of then football student-athlete [Student-Athlete 1]
the University has disassociated [Booster 5]

--Booster 6 is the hotel guy--
[Booster 6], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided impermissible extra benefits in the form of 12 nights' free lodging in Oxford, Mississippi
The University has accordingly disassociated [Booster 6]

[Booster 7's] hunting land

[Booster 8] is a retailer located in Oxford, Mississippi, that specializes in selling merchandise associated with the institution.
[Booster 9], a representative of the institution?s athletics interests, is the founder and president of the business.

--Leo--
[Booster 10], a representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided between $200 and $600 in impermissible recruiting inducements in the form of cash payments and free food and drinks to then football prospective student-athlete [Student-Athlete 39] and [Student-Athlete 39?s] friends and family. Specifically, on two or three occasions in conjunction with recruiting visits to the institution, [Booster 10] provided [Student-Athlete 39] with cash payments of between $100 and $200, as well as provided free food and drinks to [Student-Athlete 39], his friends and family.

[Booster 11], an Oxford-area restaurant and bar, on more than one occasion and that [Booster 10], the owner of [Booster 11], had in-person and telephone contact with [Student-Athlete 39]. Although the record is not clear on who provided what, the University also believes that [Student-Athlete 39] and his friends likely received free food and drinks at [Booster 11] on at least one occasion

[Booster 12], [Booster 14?s] employee
Farrar undertook to systematically undermine the University?s monitoring efforts, including using a third party [Booster 13] to perform many of the prohibited actions
[Booster 14] provided [Student-Athlete 39] with cash payments of between $500 and $800 using [Booster 12] as the courier for the payments.
[Booster 14], a representative of the institution's athletics interests, assisted the institution in its recruitment of then football prospective student-athlete [Student-Athlete 39] by engaging in recruiting activities that promoted the institution's football program. [Booster 14's] activities included engaging in impermissible recruiting contact and communication with [Student-Athlete 39] and providing him with between $13,000 and $15,600 in impermissible cash payments.
The University has accordingly disassociated [Booster 13] and [Booster 12]
the University has dissociated both [Booster 14] and [Booster 12]

#7 -- I would bet that I know.......

[fader2103]

Mimi. I tried emailing you.

[msbulldog]

What a 17ing joke.

My guess is their will be another appeal then? and again, and again, and again.

Hopefully the NCAA notices this & realizes it's lack of good faith & accountability

Random is correct, the Ethics committee order gave Mississippi till 6/26 or 6/29 to comply. They meet again on 7/7 and Mississippi better have it done by then. Rosebowl said on Boneyard yesterday, he asked, what if they tried another delay and was told by the EC that another delay would not be allowed.

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

When it says "student athlete 39", does that mean there are at least 38 others named in the NOA?

[msbulldog]

I bet ole Barney is really pissed, and understand he saw the NOA a long time ago because he's named in it. I bet he is "telling it on the mountain". I bet he has a lot of paperwork from his job that the NCAA would be real interested in. Now I know he was fired before the 2017 'amended' NOA was given to Mississippi, but not by much. The tell in this poker hand is his lawyer going public. What do Barneys say "Nip it in the Bud".

[msbulldog]

I'm not sure it was the administration as much as it was the staff and boosters themselves. I suspect there is at least a few names that connect them with staff members that weakens their individual stance. Especially Freeze and Farrar.

I value your insight into this matter, obviously well researched.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Here are the boosters I put together in the other thread:

As part of his ministry, including his work with several faith-based schools, [Booster 1] routinely arranged free housing with host families for at-risk students seeking educational opportunities. Several of these out-of-area students (including athletes and non-athletes) were allowed to stay at [Booster 1?s] home.

Booster 2 is the driver, a "huddle leader" with FCA at the prospects school, and also attended an in-home with Freeze.
On December 3, 2012, [Booster 2] attended an in-home recruiting visit by M. Harris and Freeze that occurred at [Student-Athlete 5's] residence. Additionally, [Booster 2] notified M. Harris in advance of the visit that he would be attending the visit, and both he and Freeze interacted with [Booster 2] during the visit.

--Tunsil--
[Booster 3], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided impermissible extra benefits in the form of complimentary vehicle use to then football student-athlete
the University has disassociated [Booster 3] and its owner, [Booster 4]

[Booster 5], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided an impermissible extra benefit in the form of $800 cash to [Family Member 1], then stepfather of then football student-athlete [Student-Athlete 1]
the University has disassociated [Booster 5]

--Booster 6 is the hotel guy--
[Booster 6], a then representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided impermissible extra benefits in the form of 12 nights' free lodging in Oxford, Mississippi
The University has accordingly disassociated [Booster 6]

[Booster 7's] hunting land

[Booster 8] is a retailer located in Oxford, Mississippi, that specializes in selling merchandise associated with the institution.
[Booster 9], a representative of the institution?s athletics interests, is the founder and president of the business.

--Leo--
[Booster 10], a representative of the institution's athletics interests, provided between $200 and $600 in impermissible recruiting inducements in the form of cash payments and free food and drinks to then football prospective student-athlete [Student-Athlete 39] and [Student-Athlete 39?s] friends and family. Specifically, on two or three occasions in conjunction with recruiting visits to the institution, [Booster 10] provided [Student-Athlete 39] with cash payments of between $100 and $200, as well as provided free food and drinks to [Student-Athlete 39], his friends and family.

[Booster 11], an Oxford-area restaurant and bar, on more than one occasion and that [Booster 10], the owner of [Booster 11], had in-person and telephone contact with [Student-Athlete 39]. Although the record is not clear on who provided what, the University also believes that [Student-Athlete 39] and his friends likely received free food and drinks at [Booster 11] on at least one occasion

[Booster 12], [Booster 14?s] employee
Farrar undertook to systematically undermine the University?s monitoring efforts, including using a third party [Booster 13] to perform many of the prohibited actions
[Booster 14] provided [Student-Athlete 39] with cash payments of between $500 and $800 using [Booster 12] as the courier for the payments.
[Booster 14], a representative of the institution's athletics interests, assisted the institution in its recruitment of then football prospective student-athlete [Student-Athlete 39] by engaging in recruiting activities that promoted the institution's football program. [Booster 14's] activities included engaging in impermissible recruiting contact and communication with [Student-Athlete 39] and providing him with between $13,000 and $15,600 in impermissible cash payments.
The University has accordingly disassociated [Booster 13] and [Booster 12]
the University has dissociated both [Booster 14] and [Booster 12]

So Hugh Freeze used the FCA to cheat, also set up kids with boosters and even had an in home visit with a kid and had a booster there with him???? He gone

[BeardoMSU]

Grrrrr...
rouge = cosmetic product
rogue = going off the reservation and against the system

Lol, I'm pretty sure you missed our "*" usage.