MSU vs South Alabam Elimination Game Thread

[LC Dawg]

Great job by Cody taking third.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Jake is a ****ing softball slap hitter. Just getting himself out with pitcher making no effort.

He should be bunting Cody over to 2nd...

[The Federalist Engineer]

Rubbish at bat for Vansau

[CadaverDawg]

Dammit Vansau. Shit son. Anything but a K

[preachermatt83]

LL is the slowest human being alive

[msbulldog]

Another wasted opportunity.

[CadaverDawg]

What a waste

[LC Dawg]

That was some weak shit Vansau.

[CadaverDawg]

We're going to **** around and make this one just like the last one

[maroonmania]

Is there a problem with the ESPN3 feed? I can't get anything.

[Todd4State]

Shitting on this guy and jake won't ****ing take a ball. Muther****er!!!!

Cann needs to jump his ass and get in his grill. It's past time

[LC Dawg]

Is there a problem with the ESPN3 feed? I can't get anything.
I've had to log out and log back on a few times in the past couple of weeks.

[Dawg61]

Is there a problem with the ESPN3 feed? I can't get anything.

maybe you need to update your flash player

[maroonmania]

We're going to **** around and make this one just like the last one

Between the lack of walks taken and the give away of outs on the bases, I think we require more hits to score a run than any college team I've seen.

[msbulldog]

Mine is fading in and out of focus.

[CadaverDawg]

4 pitch walk

[Dawg61]

Denver got us thru 5, good job DM

[msbulldog]

99 pitches good job Denver.

[Irondawg]

Hunter got a great pitch to drive to the OF on the first pitch and watched it. Got hosed on the strike 2 call so you knew the pitcher was going right back there low and outside

[Dawgbite]

Mine is fading in and out of focus.

Mine too, thought it was my cellular signal.

[The Federalist Engineer]

4 pitch walk

On purpose, that dude had HR'ed twice

[msbulldog]

Boy, I hope Plumlee is on tonight.

[LC Dawg]

I can't say anything bad about what McQuary gave us. He didn't let the walks hurt him. Two hits by one guy is all of their scoring.
Gotta have a short leash on anyone now and avoid a big inning.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Cann needs to jump his ass and get in his grill. It's past time

If he can't be coached, maybe he needs to take his 35th round selection and go play in Nebraska rookie ball for the next two years

[msbulldog]

Uh oh

[msstate7]

Huge, plumlee

[CadaverDawg]

Big time DP!!!

[msbulldog]

Just what the doctor ordered.

[CadaverDawg]

Hell of a job tonight Denver McQuAry

Way to come in and help him Peyton

[LC Dawg]

Good job Plumlee.

[msstate7]

It would be so unbelievably great if plumlee could actually finish this game. It might give us a shot tomorrow

[confucius say]

Between the lack of walks taken and the give away of outs on the bases, I think we require more hits to score a run than any college team I've seen.

Its why we outhit almost everybody we play but lose games. Like tonight, we are outhitting them 10-3.

[LC Dawg]

It would be so unbelievably great if plumlee could actually finish this game. It might give us a shot tomorrow
He might could if we can get some runs.

[CadaverDawg]

Bragg sucks. Get him out of there. He's not even trying

[Dawg61]

Alright Bragg sucks too, idk who the hell should hit for him tho

[preachermatt83]

Man Bragg is the easiest K in America. Gordon is not even as bad.

[msstate7]

Our 1/2 innings last 2 mins and 15 secs. USA's last 15 mins

[CadaverDawg]

What is that defensive swing by Stovall on 0-0?

[archdog]

He might could if we can get some runs.

Bragg just swing at 3 balls 18" outside.

[I seen it dawg]

Jesus Bragg that's ****ing horrible. I don't want to see him again or anyone say he should be in the lineup tomorrow if we win tonite.

[WSOPdawg]

Score guys? I'm down at the beach and unable to watch. Thnx.

[msstate7]

Alright Bragg sucks too, idk who the hell should hit for him tho

Alexander hit OOC well all year

[The Federalist Engineer]

Bragg At Bat was WOW bad

[CadaverDawg]

Stovall been raking so he bunts? So dumb

[msbulldog]

Bring Cole in.

[CadaverDawg]

Score guys? I'm down at the beach and unable to watch. Thnx.

5-2 Dawgs

[Homedawg]

please end the Bragg experiment. We can at least improve our defense w him out.

[CadaverDawg]

Our hitting is a complete shit show minus 1 inning

[I seen it dawg]

No ****ing approach to a lefty whatsoever by Bragg and Rooker. ****ing embarrassing.

[msbulldog]

Score guys? I'm down at the beach and unable to watch. Thnx.

5-2 mid 7

[maroonmania]

If he can't be coached, maybe he needs to take his 35th round selection and go play in Nebraska rookie ball for the next two years

I wouldn't expect much better next year even if he does come back. If I was a pitcher I would never throw him a pitch in the strike zone.

[MarketingBully]

Rooker stinking it up when we don't need him to hit like he is trying to. All of those balls he is swinging at were balls.

[archdog]

That entire inning was terrible. Rooker looks like Lovelady out their. No one is making this guy actually throw strikes.

[CadaverDawg]

That is the worst display of hitting I've ever seen in 3 at bats

[The Federalist Engineer]

We ain't hitting this fat boy, his numbers suck but he knows MSU batters swing at anything

[Dawg61]

Rooker is pressing so bad

[CadaverDawg]

Rooker is proving why he isn't a first rounder. That shit was embarrassing

[msstate7]

Rooker is proving why he isn't a first rounder. That shit was embarrassing

Rooker is gonna see a lot of fastballs inside (can't extend arms) and offspeed outside (can't lay off) in the minors

[Dawg61]

Alexander

You sold me right here, the rest of your sentence wasn't necessary

[The Federalist Engineer]

Good Plum so far

[Todd4State]

Our 1/2 innings last 2 mins and 15 secs. USA's last 15 mins

Good. Then this will be over in 15 minutes.

[msbulldog]

Plumlee is settling in.

[WSOPdawg]

5-2 Dawgs

thnx cadaver :)

[msstate7]

You sold me right here, the rest of your sentence wasn't necessary

Haha... Im certainly not guaranteeing results though. At least we can put Cody in LF and Alexander at 3b. That makes us much better defensively

[LC Dawg]

Cann needs to calm Rooker down. Make him take some pitches. Tell him to go opposite field. He's pressing badly.

[msstate7]

Plumlee is ballin

[CadaverDawg]

Plumlee is dialed in. Keep it up boy!

[LC Dawg]

Great job by Plumlee so far.

[Dawg61]

Impressive inning for Plumlee, he's juiced right now

[The Federalist Engineer]

As Laszlo de Almasy would say, a very Plum...Plum

[msstate7]

Gridley!!!

[CadaverDawg]

This fuzzy WatchESPN shit is pissing me off

Nice rip, Gridley

[Dawg61]

Gridley double, this batting order change has helped Stovall, Gridley and Brown

[BuckyIsAB****]

Question: If we win this, do we have to beat USM twice? Both games tomorrow?

[The Federalist Engineer]

Don't bunt Cody, he came to play...bunt the next dude, he's a DP machine

[CadaverDawg]

Question: If we win this, do we have to beat USM twice? Both games tomorrow?

Yes. 1pm and 6pm

[msbulldog]

Question: If we win this, do we have to beat USM twice? Both games tomorrow?

Yep

[CadaverDawg]

Now bunt

[msbulldog]

Man I can't believe Mangum bunted.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Yes. 1pm and 6pm

Thanks. But I really dont feel good about our chances of doing that

[Todd4State]

Haha... Im certainly not guaranteeing results though. At least we can put Cody in LF and Alexander at 3b. That makes us much better defensively

With this team I don't think anyone can hold anything against anyone else. It's not like there are a lot of options at any position.

[CadaverDawg]

2nd & 3rd 1 out

[The Federalist Engineer]

Great Bunt

[Dawg61]

This fuzzy WatchESPN shit is pissing me off

Nice rip, Gridley

Your screen maximized? I recommend not maximizing

[CadaverDawg]

Tip of the cap to big boy...he pitched well

[msstate7]

With this team I don't think anyone can hold anything against anyone else. It's not like there are a lot of options at any position.

I agree

[CadaverDawg]

Your screen maximized? I recommend not maximizing

I'm on AppleTV. Works great usually, but the feed is in and out tonight for some reason

[The Federalist Engineer]

Tip of the cap to big boy...he pitched well

They are making a mistake pulling him, we can't touch him. We swing at all his junk.

[Bully13]

Man I can't believe Mangum bunted.

Bettern whiffing at a 1st pitch bender in da dirt.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Peacock is their top reliever

[msbulldog]

I'm on AppleTV. Works great usually, but the feed is in and out tonight for some reason

We're using Roku it's been doing it all night.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Our Uniforms need a USA flag on them, I like it on the South Alabama shirts

[CadaverDawg]

Mac HBP. Bases juiced for Vansau. He typically K's in these spots

[msstate7]

I'm on AppleTV. Works great usually, but the feed is in and out tonight for some reason

I just cut it off and listening to Jim

[CadaverDawg]

Our Uniforms need a USA flag on them, I like it on the South Alabama shirts

I agree

[LC Dawg]

You get runs in this situation or you lose games. It's that simple.

[CadaverDawg]

FC run scores 6-2

[Dawg61]

Alright added a run 6-2

[CadaverDawg]

Come on, Haywire! Josh gonna come through here

[The Federalist Engineer]

Big Run, 6-2...need two more

[msstate7]

I don't know if lovelady can hold up for another double header tomorrow

[archdog]

Of course Lovelady is up.

[CadaverDawg]

Damn, Haywire....that was bad

[LC Dawg]

I don't know if lovelady can hold up for another double header tomorrow
He looked spent that last at bat.

[archdog]

I typed that before he watched his first beach ball go by. Then he swung at the pitch 18" outside.

[CadaverDawg]

I don't know if lovelady can hold up for another double header tomorrow

Do we lose much with Skelton? Why not start Skelton and if the game is tight and we feel better with Josh, just bring him in?

[msbulldog]

I don't know if lovelady can hold up for another double header tomorrow

You're probably right, but that's scary.

[Quaoarsking]

Florida loses to Bethune Cookman, forcing a game 7. Didn't see that coming.

[preachermatt83]

Love lady's at bat just now was without question the worst collegiate at bat I've ever seen. Ever.

[msstate7]

Do we lose much with Skelton? Why not start Skelton and if the game is tight and we feel better with Josh, just bring him in?

The problem is we haven't let Skelton play in so long.

[Todd4State]

Do we lose much with Skelton? Why not start Skelton and if the game is tight and we feel better with Josh, just bring him in?

A lot of it is Lovelady's handling of the pitching staff.

[CadaverDawg]

Love lady's at bat just now was without question the worst collegiate at bat I've ever seen. Ever.

Hahaha, you must have missed Bragg and Rooker last inning

[Todd4State]

The problem is we haven't let Skelton play in so long.

I thought he played a little bit in the SEC Tournament?

[CadaverDawg]

A lot of it is Lovelady's handling of the pitching staff.

I know, but can't we signal in pitches for at least a few innings to give LL a break?

[bulldogcountry1]

I don't know if I've seen such poor plate discipline all season. Half the lineup is chasing balls 3 foot out of the zone.

... and Alexander and Poole aren't even playing.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Shut down inning Plum, let's go baby

[msstate7]

I thought he played a little bit in the SEC Tournament?

Mop up. I'm talking contested game. May not really matter though...

[Todd4State]

Love lady's at bat just now was without question the worst collegiate at bat I've ever seen. Ever.


The worst one I've ever seen was Michael Rutledge vs. Samford in 2006. He looked at three fastballs down the middle of the plate that were in the mid 80's and didn't even take his bat off of his shoulder.

[CadaverDawg]

Plumlee is losing it

[Todd4State]

I know, but can't we signal in pitches for at least a few innings to give LL a break?

It's not the signals. It's getting these wild ass pitchers to throw strikes and get them through innings.

[LC Dawg]

Hahaha, you must have missed Bragg and Rooker last inning
Yeah, and they don't have the excuse of catching two games today.

[archdog]

Here comes the walks.

[msstate7]

Skelton caught vs Troy too... pretty sure anyway. I think we may have to roll the dice with Skelton tomorrow night if we make it that far. I expect balls to start getting by lovelady soon

[CadaverDawg]

Son of a bitch. Plumlee walks & then hits the first two

[msstate7]

Son of a bitch. Plumlee walks & then hits the first two

Gassed

[CadaverDawg]

I don't like leaving him in against this guy

[The Federalist Engineer]

I don't know if I've seen such poor plate discipline all season. Half the lineup is chasing balls 3 foot out of the zone.

... and Alexander and Poole aren't even playing.

Cann needs to work plate and base running discipline in the offseason. He wanted aggressive play but we frequently look reckless and out-of-control

[Leroy Jenkins]

Lead-off walks score 112% of the time.

[LC Dawg]

You hit the ball when you've got bases loaded and one out in the top of the inning and a walk and hbp isn't as big of a deal leading off the bottom of the inning.

[CadaverDawg]

Wow, big K Peyton

[Dawg61]

Huge strikeout

[Quaoarsking]

Davidson wins the Regional after umps rule against UNC in back-to-back controversial calls. The team and fans are enraged.

[CadaverDawg]

Damn. 6-3, tying run at the plate. You know we aren't going to make this easy

[msstate7]

Davidson wins the Regional after umps rule against UNC in back-to-back controversial calls. The team and fans are enraged.

And the warriors (curry) are rolling... big day for Davidson

[Todd4State]

Davidson wins the Regional after umps rule against UNC in back-to-back controversial calls. The team and fans are enraged.

College baseball needs a better replay system. I haven't seen the plays but at least it takes the guess work out and improves quality.

[Todd4State]

A replay system would also hurt LSU baseball pretty badly too. Which I am in favor of. A replay system would have probably cost LSU a share of the SEC Title this year.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Wow, big K Peyton


Davidson wins the Regional after umps rule against UNC in back-to-back controversial calls. The team and fans are enraged.

UNC deserves the death penalty and I hate them for 1989 ... so they can Eat Sh!t and Die

[CadaverDawg]

C'mon Peyton, locate here

[msstate7]

A replay system would also hurt LSU baseball pretty badly too. Which I am in favor of. A replay system would have probably cost LSU a share of the SEC Title this year.

Have you forgot the '14 replay at bama where bama's fumble was changed to td? Replay doesn't hurt the sec big boys

[CadaverDawg]

Big time Plumlee!!!

[msstate7]

Peyton is becoming a pretty good reliever

[archdog]

One walk hurt us. Good pitch out of the inning.

[msstate7]

Cole!!! He's no longer depressed, 61

[LC Dawg]

Good job just giving up one. Plumlee made some big time pitches that inning.

[CadaverDawg]

We have Poole & LA warming up as potential defensive subs....would be gutsy considering their lack of O

[Dawg61]

Plumlee making us nervous

[LC Dawg]

Check out Cole ****ing Gordon!!!

[CadaverDawg]

COLE GORDON OPPO BOMB!!!

[Dawg61]

GORDON MAKES UP FOR HIS PITCHING WITH A HOMERUN!!!!!

[The Federalist Engineer]

Cole is mentally ready for Tomorrow!

[Quaoarsking]

College baseball needs a better replay system. I haven't seen the plays but at least it takes the guess work out and improves quality.

Here they both are for the record. I'm not sure that either are wrong, but they were both close:
https://twitter.com/NCAACWS/status/871551659339636736
https://twitter.com/NCAACWS/status/871553946451681280

[CadaverDawg]

That was total blind squirrel finding a nut! Hahaha I love it

[I seen it dawg]

Huge run. Let's go plum

[I seen it dawg]

That a way to take your walk Rooker

[Todd4State]

Gordon = dual threat superstar in 2018? I sure hope so.

[I seen it dawg]

Get him in!

[msstate7]

If Peyton can finish this, we'll have everyone but pilk, plumlee, and McQ for tomorrow. We'd be in decent shape

[CadaverDawg]

See Rooker, walks are great

[parabrave]

Think we found a new DH there

[Dawg61]

Lovelady has caught 8,764 innings in a row and we make fun of him when he runs haha savage

[LC Dawg]

Let's go Plumlee. Get us to tomorrow. No free passes.

[Todd4State]

Here they both are for the record. I'm not sure that either are wrong, but they were both close:
https://twitter.com/NCAACWS/status/871551659339636736
https://twitter.com/NCAACWS/status/871553946451681280

Those are two plays that should have been replayed had there been a system in place. I think the umpire got the call at home right and the I think the pitcher's foot was past the bag on the second but I'm not 100% sure myself.

[CadaverDawg]

Guys, hats off to McQ & Plumlee so far. 4 hits thru 8 innings. That is exactly what we had to have, and they delivered. Now let's close it out

[CadaverDawg]

Lovelady has caught 8,764 innings in a row and we make fun of him when he runs haha savage

Lol

[I seen it dawg]

Got to close this out without self. Come plum

[CadaverDawg]

That 1st out is always big. Good job

[The Federalist Engineer]

Just saw it, LA is heading to the Cape! Cotuit Kettlers(?)

[CadaverDawg]

Just to get to tomorrow with this patchwork staff is a damn magic trick. Unreal. Let's try to take this thing to a winner take all game tomorrow night. Why the F not

[msstate7]

Plumlee

[Dawg61]

Billingsley tomorrow?

[DownwardDawg]

Woot!

[CadaverDawg]

Plumlee is my MVP for us at this point

[CadaverDawg]

Way to fight, Boys! Great Win!

Hail Damn State!

[msstate7]

Billingsley tomorrow?

I'd think so.

[I seen it dawg]

**** yeah. Huge pitching job today by our guys.

[preachermatt83]

Denver was solid. Plumblee was outstanding

[CadaverDawg]

Too bad this one tomorrow is on a weekday

[LC Dawg]

Great job by McQuary and even better by Plumlee. Cody Brown was excellent.
If we can get that first game tomorrow anything can happen in the 2nd game.
Hail State!

[Todd4State]

Nice job Dogs! I'm glad we beat those mid-major assholes from Mobile.

[Todd4State]

OK- what does the weather look like for tomorrow?

[The Federalist Engineer]

Barlow and Mangum to the Cape...Hyannis Port

[CadaverDawg]

Billingsley and Gordon tomorrow?

[MarketingBully]

Well guys, we get to play USM for a chance at Baton Rouge the next weekend. It would be so like this team to beat USM twice tomorrow lose the first game against LSU and then take two from there...this team has a lot of fight in them and guts. Gotta give them that.

[shoeless joe]

Those are two plays that should have been replayed had there been a system in place. I think the umpire got the call at home right and the I think the pitcher's foot was past the bag on the second but I'm not 100% sure myself.

Watched both multiple times...both looked like the correct call to me. Tough way to lose it

[Todd4State]

Billingsley and Gordon tomorrow?

I've heard some people say Mangum. Hopefully that's not true.

I would definitely go with JB in game one.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Plumlee is my MVP for us at this point

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125392/5854862-0610729079-Power.gif

[Dawg61]

Billingsley and Gordon tomorrow?

Billingsley and Self game 1

Gordon and Pilk game 2

[The Federalist Engineer]

I'm not terrified of USMs #3 and #4 tomorrow, they have the advantage and could beat us, but we are NOT facing Lange, Poche, Faedo, or Houck tomorrow

[CadaverDawg]

Billingsley and Self game 1

Gordon and Pilk game 2

Ha, no chance on Pilk.

[LC Dawg]

Who is Southern's #3?

[The Federalist Engineer]

Plumlee is my MVP for us at this point

Cody's 3 run bomb changed the game, he's my Dawg for today

[Hypnodawg]

Lovelady is a machine. I wish I had that much fortitude.

[msstate7]

Who is Southern's #3?

Keys or Roberts

[State82]

That breaking pitch for the second out in the ninth was not even fair. Plum nasty!

[CadaverDawg]

Keys or Roberts

I thought Colt Smith has been their Fri guy most of the year. They'll start him tomorrow

[JEDdawg 12]

Great 17ing win guys!!!! Love the fight. Looks like TNDawg35 will be getting another cheesecake tomorrow and I won't be logging or looking at ED during the game tomorrow like I didn't for the 2 wins today lol. Gotta love superstitions

[shoeless joe]

Gonna be on regular tv tomorrow? Or still espn3?

[msstate7]

I thought Cole Smith has been their Fri guy most of the year. They'll start him tomorrow

You know more than me then. I was guessing based on number of starts

[whataburger]

Keys or Roberts

I think Keys will start.

Colt Smith has been in the bullpen warming up the past 2 games. If Keys implodes, they'll bring in Smith.

[JEDdawg 12]

Kirk McCarty was their fri night guy for awhile. Pretty sure he'll get the start tomorrow for southern

[JEDdawg 12]

Could be wrong don't think he's thrown this weekend

[whataburger]

Kirk McCarty was their fri night guy for awhile. Pretty sure he'll get the start tomorrow for southern

McCarty threw 90 pitches on Friday. He might start in a potential game 2. But even that might be a stretch.

Could come in relief and throw 2-3 innings.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Kirk McCarty was their fri night guy for awhile. Pretty sure he'll get the start tomorrow for southern

He pitched Friday afternoon and got rocked ... so that would be great

[JEDdawg 12]

He pitched Friday afternoon and got rocked ... so that would be great

Gotcha, thanks. Missed their opening game Friday

[The Federalist Engineer]

Seriously people, tomorrow is going to be interesting. What USM has left is nothing compared to SEC play. It's not like facing Auburns Mize and Thompson or LSU Poche and Lange or Florida Faedo and Singer

Its like facing our Jolly and Barlow ... two good JUCO guys but not 1st round draft picks tomorrow

[I seen it dawg]

We've got Billingsley, Mangum, self and Gordon as meaningful pitchers. Then it's the rest of them jolly, price, Barlow and whoever else Cann will let have a shot

[LC Dawg]

Y'all remember before the season started and we were all talking about how we figured we'd need a big game out of Denver McQuary and Peyton Plumlee to get to a regional final?
As frustrating as they are to watch sometimes these Bulldog players and coaches deserve a lot of credit for getting this far.
I needed to say that before I start bitching at them tomorrow.

[I seen it dawg]

We have to score runs and throw strikes. Pretty simple

[I seen it dawg]

Guess it worked out to start Pilk this morning...we aren't done yet like some of you thought...you know who you are

[shoeless joe]

Guess it worked out to start Pilk this morning...we aren't done yet like some of you thought...you know who you are

You are correct. The last couple weeks of struggles has made some of us forget that this team has pulled off these sort of stunts for a majority of the SEC schedule.

I'm still in the "lucky to be this far" mindset and in full appreciation of what this coaching staff done.

[preachermatt83]

I'd leave Cole at DH unless southern starts a lefty.

[The Federalist Engineer]

You are correct. The last couple weeks of struggles has made some of us forget that this team has pulled off these sort of stunts for a majority of the SEC schedule.

I'm still in the "lucky to be this far" mindset and in full appreciation of what this coaching staff done.

Win game-1 and then USM will freak out. They are used to ambushing SEC teams on Tuesdays, they are not used to facing a battleship with all guns trained on their asses

[Todd4State]

Guess it worked out to start Pilk this morning...we aren't done yet like some of you thought...you know who you are

I approve of this post.

[Todd4State]

Win game-1 and then USM will freak out. They are used to ambushing SEC teams on Tuesdays, they are not used to facing a battleship with all guns trained on their asses

We're their Super Bowl.

[The Federalist Engineer]

We're their Super Bowl.

This will amp our players more than help them. Our boys know that our team is basically a joke by MSU standards. It will be like the Florida super regional in 2011...if Norris had not blown it for us

[TNDawg35]

Great 17ing win guys!!!! Love the fight. Looks like TNDawg35 will be getting another cheesecake tomorrow and I won't be logging or looking at ED during the game tomorrow like I didn't for the 2 wins today lol. Gotta love superstitions

Already sent the wife to get it and bring it to me at work! Now all I have to do is explain to my boss why I have a full strawberry cheesecake sitting on my desk at 1pm in the afternoon....

[CadaverDawg]

Already sent the wife to get it and bring it to me at work! Now all I have to do is explain to my boss why I have a full strawberry cheesecake sitting on my desk at 1pm in the afternoon....

https://m.popkey.co/91c40e/LlwQL_s-200x150.gif?c=popkey-web&p=underarmour&i=breakthegame-sports&l=search&f=.gif

[I seen it dawg]

Already sent the wife to get it and bring it to me at work! Now all I have to do is explain to my boss why I have a full strawberry cheesecake sitting on my desk at 1pm in the afternoon....
Lol rep sent. This is great