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Bodaski
05-25-2017, 12:57 PM
We've all heard rumors and what not of different rules that were broken by OM, but they have sorta disappeared or forgotten about. Things I've heard and please add the ones you heard and we'll soon know which ones were BS or not enough evidence for the NCAA to try to prove. The following are rumors I've heard or been told that the NCAA was checking out.
1- Burner phones
2- Red back packs with cash on official visits that may involve a couple of players from Ala, A RB (Bo Scarbrough) sat out 4 games due to recruiting issues while on an official visit to another SEC school. Supposedly 2 more Bama players were interviewed, a DB and a OL.
3- Heard the NCAA interviewed some people at Starkville HS. I also don't think those people that were involved in OM's recruiting of certain players are at Starkville anymore. Have no clue if that may be the reason they aren't there or not. I know they have a new staff and they may not have been retained.

Martianlander
05-25-2017, 02:04 PM
Complete list is posted on Cannon Motors bulletin board and all Memphis Taco Bells.**

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 02:11 PM
We've all heard rumors and what not of different rules that were broken by OM, but they have sorta disappeared or forgotten about. Things I've heard and please add the ones you heard and we'll soon know which ones were BS or not enough evidence for the NCAA to try to prove. The following are rumors I've heard or been told that the NCAA was checking out.
1- Burner phones
2- Red back packs with cash on official visits that may involve a couple of players from Ala, A RB (Bo Scarbrough) sat out 4 games due to recruiting issues while on an official visit to another SEC school. Supposedly 2 more Bama players were interviewed, a DB and a OL.
3- Heard the NCAA interviewed some people at Starkville HS. I also don't think those people that were involved in OM's recruiting of certain players are at Starkville anymore. Have no clue if that may be the reason they aren't there or not. I know they have a new staff and they may not have been retained.

#3 is incorrect..... There is MUCH to that story.... There are still people employed at Starkville that had their DIRTY hands in that Money bag....
#2 is incorrect..... There are more people involved than that -- both recruits that signed with OM and at other colleges... FACT. (8 to my knowledge)
#2 More than that in the book bags.... that were not necessarily red.... clothes, money, jewelry, electronics and not burner phones
#2 Given prostitutes.... UGH.... supplied by a certain coach
#1 2 Burner phones were collected from two different players on the SAME day -- two different meetings at the same time -- different high schools.. Know that one of the phones the recruit had in December 2015.

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Recruiters were given impressionable access to recruits inside high schools between January 2016 and signing day...
Recruiters used the burner phones during DEAD WEEKS to contact recruits.
Recruiters meet with OM Boosters present with high school recruits-- more times than you know....

TNDawg35
05-25-2017, 02:49 PM
#3 is incorrect..... There is MUCH to that story.... There are still people employed at Starkville that had their DIRTY hands in that Money bag....
#2 is incorrect..... There are more people involved than that -- both recruits that signed with OM and at other colleges... FACT. (8 to my knowledge)
#2 More than that in the book bags.... that were not necessarily red.... clothes, money, jewelry, electronics and not burner phones
#2 Given prostitutes.... UGH.... supplied by a certain coach
#1 2 Burner phones were collected from two different players on the SAME day -- two different meetings at the same time -- different high schools.. Know that one of the phones the recruit had in December 2015.

@@@@@
Recruiters were given impressionable access to recruits inside high schools between January 2016 and signing day...
Recruiters used the burner phones during DEAD WEEKS to contact recruits.
Recruiters meet with OM Boosters present with high school recruits-- more times than you know....

Whoch coach would I need to contact to pick out a hooker? I got a bachelor party this wknd....

ShotgunDawg
05-25-2017, 03:03 PM
#3 is incorrect..... There is MUCH to that story.... There are still people employed at Starkville that had their DIRTY hands in that Money bag....
#2 is incorrect..... There are more people involved than that -- both recruits that signed with OM and at other colleges... FACT. (8 to my knowledge)
#2 More than that in the book bags.... that were not necessarily red.... clothes, money, jewelry, electronics and not burner phones
#2 Given prostitutes.... UGH.... supplied by a certain coach
#1 2 Burner phones were collected from two different players on the SAME day -- two different meetings at the same time -- different high schools.. Know that one of the phones the recruit had in December 2015.

@@@@@
Recruiters were given impressionable access to recruits inside high schools between January 2016 and signing day...
Recruiters used the burner phones during DEAD WEEKS to contact recruits.
Recruiters meet with OM Boosters present with high school recruits-- more times than you know....


What amount of this does the NCAA know?

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 03:07 PM
What amount of this does the NCAA know?

ALL of it..... plus some MORE....

The only thing the NCAA may not know is at one school the OM boosters took it upon themselves to purchase high school rings.... NO I CANNOT MAKE THAT UP....

ShotgunDawg
05-25-2017, 03:17 PM
ALL of it..... plus some MORE....

The only thing the NCAA may not know is at one school the OM boosters took it upon themselves to purchase high school rings.... NO I CANNOT MAKE THAT UP....

Ruh Roh

Do we have an official prediction from you on penalties?

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 03:35 PM
Ruh Roh

Do we have an official prediction from you on penalties?

Freeze is a goner.... 10 years -- show cause -- he really should NEVER be allowed to coach again-- even little children
Luke is a goner.... 8 year -- show cause -- If only I could have a conversation with this piece of ____________.
Farrar is already gone 10 year -- show cause..... should be BANNED from any recruiting or coaching job even children's little league.
Chris Jones -- is already gone....
David Saunders -- has already been given his punishment -- wonder if he will get more for the OM ACT Fraud?

The Booster list is extensive for sure.... Their involvement with a bank and an ATM machine outcome will be interesting for sure.
As for the players... there are several that flat out LIED to the NCAA and NCAA caught them. They should be suspended and not allowed to play again.

OM has to be MADE an example of for sure..... Sad that OM has brought this on themselves.....
What is even "SADDER" is that the BOOSTERS are STILL breaking the NCAA policies concerning recruiting.....


For example: Why would an OM Booster (NOT a OM Recruiter), walk themselves into a field house before the game, eat the players food, make himself at home, walk onto the field and stand on the side lines the entire game -- and be in the HS coaches way??? Yes, this has happened...


They BELIEVE that they are ABOVE the LAW..... IF the IRS and the banking people decided to investigate this mess... This is JUST the icing on the cake as to what COULD happen..... does anyone ever wonder IF OM Ath. could lose their 501(c)3 status????

One question I do have.... How does any MSU Booster just stand and watch the OM mess happen in front of them every week and NOT report it is beyond me..... Or how does an MSU grad except bribes from recruiters???

Sorry --shotgundawg... probably more than you wanted to know....

LockeDawg
05-25-2017, 04:30 PM
One question I do have.... How does any MSU Booster just stand and watch the OM mess happen in front of them every week and NOT report it is beyond me..... Or how does an MSU grad except bribes from recruiters???

Sorry --shotgundawg... probably more than you wanted to know....A compact among thieves. MSU Boosters are working among the Boosters of other programs, it's just the way of the world in HS recruiting. If you're a MSU Booster and you're rubbing shoulders with OM Booster, standing around locker rooms, sidelines, field houses at a high school in the midst of OM Boosters then it's likely you're pretty intimately involved in some of the same shenanigans that the OM Boosters are doing.

It may not be to the same extent or at the same level as the OM Boosters, but the MSU Booster is still running in the same circles and they are privy to the same conversations and have access to the same recruits. So why turn in a fellow Booster, when the tables could get turned on you? An agreement among thieves - one hand washes the other and they all keep it on the down low.

This happens all over college athletics, it's probably worse in the South where a high concentration of HS talent resides. But we've seen what happened at Oregon under Chip Kelly and USC under Pete Carroll and at USCe under Steve Spurrier. It's prevalent everywhere and 10 times worse in basketball recruiting circles, Callipari/Petino/Pearl/Roy Williams, etc.

Chip
05-25-2017, 04:31 PM
Well, that escalated quickly...

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 04:39 PM
Well, that escalated quickly...

Your turn Chip...... haha:cool:

Lumpy Chucklelips
05-25-2017, 04:41 PM
Mimi's Babies.....are you Steve? Cause I know Steve is writing a book. And if you're not Steve, I hope he has as much info in his book as you know. If not, maybe we have the wrong one writing a book.

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 04:47 PM
Mimi's Babies.....are you Steve? Cause I know Steve is writing a book. And if you're not Steve, I hope he has as much info in his book as you know. If not, maybe we have the wrong one writing a book.

I am NOT Steve, I promise.... I just saw too much..... heard too much with evidence and have learned even more by keeping my eyes open.... Steve knows my story and so does the NCAA... That being said.... IF some people do not lose their employment because of this what else I know, they will be exposed -- it is enough for Steve to write the second book.....

I love my BULLDAWGS...... Have been a fan since moving to Starkville in 1968.... My children were raised here and have moved off.

#HAILSTATE..... Several people know who I am already and they also know how I know what I know.....


Psst... Steve doesn't know the second part of the story..... Spring 2017... at a new school.

Chip
05-25-2017, 04:52 PM
Your turn Chip...... haha:cool:

I'm not even close to knowing the innuendo that you obviously know. I'm just a State grad, who sort of knows the ins and outs of government.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
05-25-2017, 05:02 PM
Psst... Steve doesn't know the second part of the story..... Spring 2017... at a new school.

What you mean by new school?

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 05:03 PM
I'm not even close to knowing the innuendo that you obviously know. I'm just a State grad, who sort of knows the ins and outs of government.

Glad someone knows the ins and outs of the government -- wish I had known this 8 years ago.

This thread must be onto something.... Look at the numbers #14 post with over 1,300... views... jeez.... Wonder who's reading this page?????

msbulldog
05-25-2017, 06:22 PM
I am NOT Steve, I promise.... I just saw too much..... heard too much with evidence and have learned even more by keeping my eyes open.... Steve knows my story and so does the NCAA... That being said.... IF some people do not lose their employment because of this what else I know, they will be exposed -- it is enough for Steve to write the second book.....

I love my BULLDAWGS...... Have been a fan since moving to Starkville in 1968.... My children were raised here and have moved off.

#HAILSTATE..... Several people know who I am already and they also know how I know what I know.....


Psst... Steve doesn't know the second part of the story..... Spring 2017... at a new school.
Who you think Mimi? Your posts are causing a whole lot of red and blue sweat falling! I came to MSU as a freshman in 1973, continued to live there until 1981. If you are a SHS (or former) teacher, I dated a SHS senior girl as a freshman in 1973, really pretty girl. My brother's wife's aunt was married to Dog Owen.
if you would like to talk and gossip about old Starkville, PM me.
You're doing a great job as an investigative reporter.

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 06:35 PM
Who you think Mimi? Your posts are causing a whole lot of red and blue sweat falling! I came to MSU as a freshman in 1973, continued to live there until 1981. If you are a SHS (or former) teacher, I dated a SHS senior girl as a freshman in 1973, really pretty girl. My brother's wife's aunt was married to Dog Owen.
if you would like to talk and gossip about old Starkville, PM me.
You're doing a great job as an investigative reporter.

Funny Coach Dog Owen -- taught me high school..... I will PM you.....

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 06:39 PM
What you mean by new school?

I work at a different school.....
What was seen was reported to the NCAA.... fun times.....

JoseBrown
05-25-2017, 07:25 PM
I work at a different school.....
What was seen was reported to the NCAA.... fun times.....

Good job!

Liverpooldawg
05-25-2017, 07:30 PM
A compact among thieves. MSU Boosters are working among the Boosters of other programs, it's just the way of the world in HS recruiting. If you're a MSU Booster and you're rubbing shoulders with OM Booster, standing around locker rooms, sidelines, field houses at a high school in the midst of OM Boosters then it's likely you're pretty intimately involved in some of the same shenanigans that the OM Boosters are doing.

It may not be to the same extent or at the same level as the OM Boosters, but the MSU Booster is still running in the same circles and they are privy to the same conversations and have access to the same recruits. So why turn in a fellow Booster, when the tables could get turned on you? An agreement among thieves - one hand washes the other and they all keep it on the down low.

This happens all over college athletics, it's probably worse in the South where a high concentration of HS talent resides. But we've seen what happened at Oregon under Chip Kelly and USC under Pete Carroll and at USCe under Steve Spurrier. It's prevalent everywhere and 10 times worse in basketball recruiting circles, Callipari/Petino/Pearl/Roy Williams, etc.
Enforcer where are you. This one is OBVIOUSLY a Rebel. Even his dang name should tell you that.

gravedigger
05-25-2017, 08:09 PM
Enforcer where are you. This one is OBVIOUSLY a Rebel. Even his dang name should tell you that.

I'm gonna say that while it's unlikely to know for sure, Locke is not a rebel. Just a pragmatic fan who understands that state boosters play the game too.

Jack Lambert
05-25-2017, 08:45 PM
Hell I think some of you horn dogs would run a 4.3 40 if there was a BJ waiting for you.

fader2103
05-25-2017, 09:13 PM
Hell I think some of you horn dogs would run a 4.3 40 if there was a BJ waiting for you.

Pretty sure it would be sub 3.4

Corn Bread
05-25-2017, 09:38 PM
#3 is incorrect..... There is MUCH to that story.... There are still people employed at Starkville that had their DIRTY hands in that Money bag....
#2 is incorrect..... There are more people involved than that -- both recruits that signed with OM and at other colleges... FACT. (8 to my knowledge)
#2 More than that in the book bags.... that were not necessarily red.... clothes, money, jewelry, electronics and not burner phones
#2 Given prostitutes.... UGH.... supplied by a certain coach
#1 2 Burner phones were collected from two different players on the SAME day -- two different meetings at the same time -- different high schools.. Know that one of the phones the recruit had in December 2015.

@@@@@
Recruiters were given impressionable access to recruits inside high schools between January 2016 and signing day...
Recruiters used the burner phones during DEAD WEEKS to contact recruits.
Recruiters meet with OM Boosters present with high school recruits-- more times than you know....

Mim's any word on Yancy, Corn Hole, and Dirty Knees? LOL! You gott'em girl!

Bodaski
05-25-2017, 11:29 PM
One question I do have.... How does any MSU Booster just stand and watch the OM mess happen in front of them every week and NOT report it is beyond me..... Or how does an MSU grad except bribes from recruiters???

This is the guy I would like to talk to,

Mimi's Babies
05-26-2017, 07:53 AM
Mim's any word on Yancy, Corn Hole, and Dirty Knees? LOL! You gott'em girl!

Conn Bread, Corn Bread -- WHAT did I tell you a YEAR AGO..... It is ALL coming TRUE...
But there is MORE... Hope to catch up with you soon...

Mimi's Babies
05-26-2017, 07:54 AM
One question I do have.... How does any MSU Booster just stand and watch the OM mess happen in front of them every week and NOT report it is beyond me..... Or how does an MSU grad except bribes from recruiters???

This is the guy I would like to talk to,

And I know for a fact that one of them is a former ATH. for MSU.... He doesn't deserve to have the job he has for sure... But this has been reported also....

Dawgbite
05-26-2017, 10:52 AM
Pretty sure it would be sub 3.4

What's the hurry?