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Interpolation_Dawg_EX
05-25-2017, 12:48 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/news/houston-nutt-seeking-apology-ole-miss-ncaa-violation-reaction-devastates-173204481.html

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
05-25-2017, 12:49 PM
“I would hope this wouldn’t become a legal situation,” Mars said. “But if the university doesn’t recognize at some point the damage that’s been done … I would like to think the appropriate action will be taken.

“This was a smear campaign. If it weren’t so deceitful and morally wrong, it would probably go down in college football history as one of the best trick plays ever.”

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
05-25-2017, 12:49 PM
Mars is certain of what transpired: Someone or some group of people at Ole Miss quickly leaked information to media members in an effort to minimize the appearance of impropriety related to the football program in general and Freeze’s staff in specific.

“I’m 100 percent certain the information was leaked by the university,” Mars said. “And I’m absolutely certain I could prove that in court.”

The problem for Ole Miss was this: The leaked information didn’t match the facts.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
05-25-2017, 12:50 PM
Mars argued that his repeated attempts to engage Ole Miss officials on this topic – most notably general counsel Lee Tyner – have gotten him nowhere.

“I’ve been stonewalled every step of the way,” said Mars, who provided Yahoo Sports with copies of email exchanges with Mississippi officials expressing his frustration in attempts to get information and establish dialog. “It’s very disappointing that a university with the reputation Ole Miss has would react in this way.”

starkvegasdawg
05-25-2017, 01:07 PM
What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.

ShotgunDawg
05-25-2017, 01:23 PM
Forde getting after that ass

mcain31
05-25-2017, 01:36 PM
I hope Nutt gets his day in court

Bully75
05-25-2017, 01:36 PM
Humm.............I don't think I'd want to go into open court if I'm TSUN.

CarolinaDawgs
05-25-2017, 01:39 PM
This article was so overdue. Finally someone calling them on all the bullshit they spewed to every media outlet.

LC Dawg
05-25-2017, 01:39 PM
I'm sure this is all ultimately Leo Lewis's fault.

ShotgunDawg
05-25-2017, 01:42 PM
This article was so overdue. Finally someone calling them on all the bullshit they spewed to every media outlet.

Hopefully the COI sees this as more evidence of a culture of BS and corruption.

To put it in Lehman's terms: those 17ers deserve every ounce of what they have coming to them.

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 01:52 PM
Mars argued that his repeated attempts to engage Ole Miss officials on this topic – most notably general counsel Lee Tyner – have gotten him nowhere.

“I’ve been stonewalled every step of the way,” said Mars, who provided Yahoo Sports with copies of email exchanges with Mississippi officials expressing his frustration in attempts to get information and establish dialog. “It’s very disappointing that a university with the reputation Ole Miss has would react in this way.”

Interesting -- At several universities-- there is a policy about how long the general counsel has to answer a request for information... Interesting.... PLEASE note: General Counsels at each university are employed by the AG's office of Mississippi....

JDog13
05-25-2017, 01:54 PM
Shitbirds

Dawgology
05-25-2017, 01:56 PM
So hearing before the COI is scheduled for June then according to this article.

confucius say
05-25-2017, 01:58 PM
Bwahahahahahaha!!! Finally getting called out. The best part of that article is the excerpts from all the news outlets falsely claiming everything was Nutts staff and women's sports.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
05-25-2017, 02:16 PM
From @CopiahDawg:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAsaYgaWAAAweDq.jpg:large

starkvegasdawg
05-25-2017, 02:21 PM
Nutt is going to rue the day.***

BrokerDawg
05-25-2017, 02:21 PM
So hearing before the COI is scheduled for June then according to this article.

Can't believe this part isn't getting more traction on here. Paging Cadaver!!! Is this one of the IT's?

Dawgowar
05-25-2017, 02:23 PM
So hearing before the COI is scheduled for June then according to this article.

Per the COI site the hearings are scheduled on the second weekend of the month. (On the months hearings are slated. One of which is June)

Should be June 10th then unless Forde is wrong. August is the next month. Makes sense the release their version of things on the 5th and then go to the hearing. The spin will really start then. Rumors about getting off easy will be spewed 24/7. Fun times!

Really Clark?
05-25-2017, 02:32 PM
Per the COI site the hearings are scheduled on the second weekend of the month. (On the months hearings are slated. One of which is June)

Should be June 10th then unless Forde is wrong. August is the next month. Makes sense the release their version of things on the 5th and then go to the hearing. The spin will really start then. Rumors about getting off easy will be spewed 24/7. Fun times!

I may be wrong but I thought they have been saying the WEEK of June 5th. Seems June 9th around 5 pm would be the day that they would like to release.

Cooterpoot
05-25-2017, 02:33 PM
Nutt's going to cream'm!

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 02:40 PM
Per the COI site the hearings are scheduled on the second weekend of the month. (On the months hearings are slated. One of which is June)

Should be June 10th then unless Forde is wrong. August is the next month. Makes sense the release their version of things on the 5th and then go to the hearing. The spin will really start then. Rumors about getting off easy will be spewed 24/7. Fun times!

That is interesting.... that is the DAY after the NOA is due to RoseBowl..... haha

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 02:42 PM
Mars is certain of what transpired: Someone or some group of people at Ole Miss quickly leaked information to media members in an effort to minimize the appearance of impropriety related to the football program in general and Freeze?s staff in specific.

?I?m 100 percent certain the information was leaked by the university,? Mars said. ?And I?m absolutely certain I could prove that in court.?

The problem for Ole Miss was this: The leaked information didn?t match the facts.

SLANDER/defamation of character..... I will serve as a juror for this case.... haha

Dawgowar
05-25-2017, 02:52 PM
I may be wrong but I thought they have been saying the WEEK of June 5th. Seems June 9th around 5 pm would be the day that they would like to release.

Good point

BigEasyDawg
05-25-2017, 03:24 PM
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QuadrupleOption
05-25-2017, 03:32 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/news/houston-nutt-seeking-apology-ole-miss-ncaa-violation-reaction-devastates-173204481.html

“The university can still do the right thing,” he said. “Only time will tell if Chancellor [Jeffrey] Vitter has that kind of courage.”

Newsflash Mr. Mars - no one at that hive of scum and villainy has the courage to do anything morally correct where the football program is concerned.

TrapGame
05-25-2017, 03:32 PM
Nutt's going to cream'm!

ole miss gonna get Nutted on.

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 04:35 PM
I may be wrong but I thought they have been saying the WEEK of June 5th. Seems June 9th around 5 pm would be the day that they would like to release.

IF the NCAA meets with OM on June 10th...
THEN the NCAA would NOT have had much time to REVIEW OM's response...
So one, they already know what the sentence to be handed down to OM is...
or.... no one else cares what OM's response really is....

When did the NCAA receive their response? That is a huge question now....

LockeDawg
05-25-2017, 04:37 PM
So hearing before the COI is scheduled for June then according to this article.

I saw that too. That seems like a quick turn around. OM has to submit their response to the Amended NOA, then the NCAA has to review OM's response and provide their rebuttal or further evidence of wrongdoing. Then the NCAA has to present the entire case to the COI for their review and schedule the hearing where OM pleads their defense against the allegations. Seems a little soon to be going before the COI in early summer?

Dawgowar
05-25-2017, 04:47 PM
I saw that too. That seems like a quick turn around. OM has to submit their response to the Amended NOA, then the NCAA has to review OM's response and provide their rebuttal or further evidence of wrongdoing. Then the NCAA has to present the entire case to the COI for their review and schedule the hearing where OM pleads their defense against the allegations. Seems a little soon to be going before the COI in early summer?

You assume they have not already submitted a response. Quite possible given we don't know the real timeline.

LockeDawg
05-25-2017, 04:51 PM
You assume they have not already submitted a response. Quite possible given we don't know the real timeline.

Well with all of "our" people in the know about the inner workings of the case, I just assumed one of our folks would be privy to this information and would have spilled the info by now. "If" they go before the COI in June, then OM was able to keep it under tight wraps.

Chip
05-25-2017, 05:30 PM
I think there are a couple of assumptions here:

First, we have the assumption that OM got the second NOA/amendments around middle of February, as the NCAA hostage video was put up on you tube on the 22nd. If that is so, then 90 days from the middle of February is middle of May when their response was due to the NCAA COI, and if you assume secondly that there was a 30-day extention filed, then mid-June for it to be due.

All that makes sense if you then assume that they are publicizing the response pursuant to the Mississippi Ethics Commission letter the week of June 5 - which most on here then assume that the actual date during the week of June 5 would be June 9th.

That's a lot of assuming.

Now, it is possible that they received the amendment letter from the NCAA in late January. There was a lot of rumor that they had, though we had no confirmation of that date. If they received it in mid-to-late January, then the clock is different and their 90 days for response to the NCAA would have been mid-to late April. To my knowledge, we haven't actually heard there was a 30 day extension filed - we just assume that one of the parties would have filed such.

So it's possible that they have already filed their response in April, and the NCAA COI has scheduled a hearing at their June meeting.

I'm not sure of either, I'm just playing with the calendar based on what that article said.

Todd4State
05-25-2017, 05:36 PM
This could set Ole Miss back Fity years.

WSOPdawg
05-25-2017, 05:49 PM
This could set Ole Miss back Fity years.

Or bury them (aka the DP and cause removal from the SEC)

CadaverDawg
05-25-2017, 05:52 PM
Can't believe this part isn't getting more traction on here. Paging Cadaver!!! Is this one of the IT's?

Happy to report this is NOT one of the IT's I was referring to...but Christmas in June came a little early this year, bc this is horrible press for OM, and we all know how important PR is to Ole Miss and their prickbase...err fanbase.

Mutt the Hoople
05-25-2017, 06:07 PM
OleMiss- the most corrupt, criminal organization in NCAA History. More corrupt than the ottoman Empire. More corrupt than a Chicago Alderman.

The depths of Ole Miss' depravity knows no bounds. The only the NCAA should do, is shut down their entire athletic department, and make them work on rebuilding their shattered reputation of being a 4th rate academic institution.

Leroy Jenkins
05-25-2017, 06:20 PM
Bust 'em, Nutt.

The Federalist Engineer
05-25-2017, 06:34 PM
Nutt should talk to John Grisham and write the next great southern thriller, "The Bag Man"

How a mythical southern college wants to win so badly, they must silence an innocent ex-coach (Mattew McConaughey). The college sends goons to assassinate the ex-coach with a margarita drink with radio active isotopes mixed with the salt. The climax is the coach is chased through Memphis streets and is rescued by an idealistic young Civil Rights attorney played by Margo Robbie. The corrupt chancellor of the mythical southern college is played by Jon Voight.

RocketDawg
05-25-2017, 06:41 PM
You assume they have not already submitted a response. Quite possible given we don't know the real timeline.

It's also possible that they sent them a review copy or a draft. The entire process may not be totally closed between the NCAA and the offending institution. One never knows.

Liverpooldawg
05-25-2017, 07:25 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/news/houston-nutt-seeking-apology-ole-miss-ncaa-violation-reaction-devastates-173204481.html

I hope he sues them and wins so much they have to shut the place down. It would be poetic justice plus it would benefit Mississippi immensely. Hopefully the state has enough foresight to split the medical center off and make it independent before it happens. Their graduates have been a minority down there for decades anyway.

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 07:40 PM
I would like to see the Legal Bill of the NCAA vs OM mess....

Liverpooldawg
05-25-2017, 07:52 PM
I would like to see the Legal Bill of the NCAA vs OM mess....

Their little info graphic a while back said it was well over a million way back then. I assume we are paying for that too, as taxpayers in Mississippi.

Mimi's Babies
05-25-2017, 07:59 PM
Their little info graphic a while back said it was well over a million way back then. I assume we are paying for that too, as taxpayers in Mississippi.

I have wondered the exact same thing..... Maybe the Attorney General could answer that question..... He won't answer anything else.... haha

Goldendawg
05-25-2017, 08:27 PM
Anybody here this discussed on "Head to Head" this afternoon? Between my 16 year old son changing rock CD's on the way back from Tupelo, it sounded like Matt was really blasting Nutt and his camp and defending UNM ( as usual), but I didn't hear much. Why does MSU still keep him on payroll as a broadcaster when he is such a UM homer on Head to Head?

starkvegasdawg
05-25-2017, 08:37 PM
Anybody here this discussed on "Head to Head" this afternoon? Between my 16 year old son changing rock CD's on the way back from Tupelo, it sounded like Matt was really blasting Nutt and his camp and defending UNM ( as usual), but I didn't hear much. Why does MSU still keep him on payroll as a broadcaster when he is such a UM homer on Head to Head?

Matt needs to get a MSU girl so he'll quit being scared of getting cut off from the poontain if he says something negative about the bears.

Goldendawg
05-25-2017, 08:39 PM
"You can't serve two masters!"

yjnkdawg
05-25-2017, 08:49 PM
Interesting -- At several universities-- there is a policy about how long the general counsel has to answer a request for information... Interesting.... PLEASE note: General Counsels at each university are employed by the AG's office of Mississippi....


That is true, but an Agency's (Institution) legal counsel can propose a recomendation or legal opinion to the Agency Head, but the Agency Head has the final say so. So the Agency Head can accept, modify, or reject.

yjnkdawg
05-25-2017, 08:55 PM
?The university can still do the right thing,? he said. ?Only time will tell if Chancellor [Jeffrey] Vitter has that kind of courage.?

Newsflash Mr. Mars - no one at that hive of scum and villainy has the courage to do anything morally correct where the football program is concerned.

They still just want to tell their story on those minor*** mistakes they made, but they lost the manuscript and are searching for new authors.**

starkvegasdawg
05-25-2017, 09:16 PM
They still just want to tell their story on those minor*** mistakes they made, but they lost the manuscript and are searching for new authors.**

Have they looked in Nashville?