View Full Version : SEC West Championship Series - Game 1
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:03 PM
Our batting is why we have lost. Terrible.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:04 PM
Awful f'n AB. Go sit down lovelady... you're fault, not ump
Political Hack
05-18-2017, 09:04 PM
That's tough. Hate that for lovelady. He's had a good game.
VandelayIndustries
05-18-2017, 09:05 PM
Our batting is why we have lost. Terrible.
Yep. Looks at 2 strikes, swings at a bad pitch. Pathetic
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:05 PM
Lovelady! You're a catcher! Make em throw strikes!
He should have been thinking fastball first pitch. This tells you our guys go up there without a game plan or any idea of the situation. The best pitch to hit on that at bat was the first pitch.
HailState15
05-18-2017, 09:05 PM
My gosh every time we have a chance of putting up runs we choke it away. If your lovelady in this situation where your down 0-2 and you almost have to swing at this pitch. Down 0-2 you "protect the plate". He sure did not do that.
JEDdawg 12
05-18-2017, 09:06 PM
Garbage absolutely garbage lovelady!!! Twice bases juiced and 0 runs
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:06 PM
Awful f'n AB. Go sit down lovelady... you're fault, not ump
How the hell are you not sitting on fastball that first pitch. That was a terrible at bat by Lovelady.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:07 PM
My gosh every time we have a chance of putting up runs we choke it away. If your lovelady in this situation where your down 0-2 and you almost have to swing at this pitch. Down 0-2 you "protect the plate". He sure did not do that.
It was over when he had two strikes.
Saltydog
05-18-2017, 09:07 PM
#sweepison
maroonmania
05-18-2017, 09:08 PM
Our batting is why we have lost. Terrible.
Yes, amazing what we did earlier in the year with this lineup but we just have too many guys that aren't SEC caliber hitters and they are being exposed. We now have 3 runs in our last 25 innings against SEC pitching. Having guys like Poole and Lovelady come up in key situations is not normally going to work well for you against top level SEC pitching.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:08 PM
#sweepison
Bottom of the eighth we have Alexander and Poole to start....great.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:09 PM
Yes, amazing what we did earlier in the year with this lineup but we just have too many guys that aren't SEC caliber hitters and they are being exposed. We now have 2 runs in our last 25 innings against SEC pitching. Having guys like Poole and Lovelady come up in key situations is not normally going to work well for you against top level SEC pitching.
Not sure why macnamee wasn't used in one of those situations
msugolf
05-18-2017, 09:10 PM
Bottom line is we don't have but maybe 3 or 4 high level D1 hitters on this team. We're pieced together pretty much like a MS juco all star team playing in the best baseball conference in the land. All this will hopefully change in the coming years.
Saltydog
05-18-2017, 09:12 PM
His hitting is like shooting pool with a rope!
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:13 PM
Yes, amazing what we did earlier in the year with this lineup but we just have too many guys that aren't SEC caliber hitters and they are being exposed. We now have 2 runs in our last 25 innings against SEC pitching. Having guys like Poole and Lovelady come up in key situations is not normally going to work well for you against top level SEC pitching.
We struggled against Georgia pitching for the exact reasons we struggled tonight. No plate discipline. We also appear (sans Rooker) to not have a gameplan or awareness of the situation. For instance, Lovelady's at bat. Lange has 122 pitches and wants to get ahead in the count. He served up a down the middle fastball that Lovelady let go by for strike one. What was Lovelady looking for there?
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:13 PM
First sec game of the year... ark won 3-1. Gridley got a first inning hr in that game also. Think this series will turn out the same way.
Dawg61
05-18-2017, 09:13 PM
God knows they're not gonna say a damn thing to you for posting you had sex with my daughter in a sex club or something.
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MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:15 PM
Why is Plumlee still in there? Our coaches make some dumb moves.
HailState15
05-18-2017, 09:15 PM
If we lose this game tonight which is most likely happening it's all on missed opportunities and poor hitting. The plate discipline has been pretty terrible tonight
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:15 PM
Lovelady has an absolutely awful AB to end 7th and his pass ball is gonna cost us any chance in this game.
Dawg61
05-18-2017, 09:17 PM
If we lose this game tonight which is most likely happening it's all on missed opportunities and poor hitting. The plate discipline has been pretty terrible tonight
Our lineup is just ****ed at 3 spots and LSU is taking advantage of that
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:18 PM
If Poole can't get that ball to the plate there, there really is no reason to start him.
HailState15
05-18-2017, 09:19 PM
Our lineup is just ****ed at 3 spots and LSU is taking advantage of that. Good point
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:19 PM
That might have cost us the game pitching Plumlee in the eighth. Let's just shelve our best pitchers when the game is on the line.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:20 PM
If Poole can't get that ball to the plate there, there really is no reason to start him.
He has a shit arm.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:20 PM
Our lineup is just ****ed at 3 spots and LSU is taking advantage of that
When we had the bases loaded for 2 of those guys, you have to PH. We let lsu take advantage of it
maroonmania
05-18-2017, 09:21 PM
First sec game of the year... ark won 3-1. Gridley got a first inning hr in that game also. Think this series will turn out the same way.
If I was being honest I'd have to say yeah. But I hope I'm wrong.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:21 PM
Our lineup is just ****ed at 3 spots and LSU is taking advantage of that
And we have them all hitting together for maximum impact.
maroonmania
05-18-2017, 09:22 PM
When we had the bases loaded for 2 of those guys, you have to PH. We let lsu take advantage of it
Why the heck is Macnamee not playing instead of Poole anyway?
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:23 PM
Strikeout by Alexander. What a surprise.
HailState15
05-18-2017, 09:23 PM
What on gods green earth are you swinging at Belmont?
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:23 PM
Finally put Macnamee in however too late IMO.
WSOPdawg
05-18-2017, 09:23 PM
When we had the bases loaded for 2 of those guys, you have to PH. We let lsu take advantage of it
yep, on the bench available to PH: Macnamee, Bragg, Blalock, Skelton, who else am I missing?
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:23 PM
Macnamee bats now... with no one on base. Damn cann
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:25 PM
I still don't understand not going to Self or Price in the eighth. You are only down one. That asshole will keep Plumlee in for the ninth as well and has already chalked this up as a loss.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:26 PM
McQ has more walks than Ks... we're swept. Book it
archdog
05-18-2017, 09:26 PM
I still don't understand not going to Self or Price in the eighth. You are only down one. That asshole will keep Plumlee in for the ninth as well and has already chalked this up as a loss.
SCORE?
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:27 PM
SCORE?
3-1 lsu
HailState15
05-18-2017, 09:27 PM
SCORE? 3-1 bot 8
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:27 PM
McQ has more walks than Ks... we're swept. Book it
If this is 2-1 with Self pitching, I would have given us a shot to win. But the stubbornness to keep Plumlee in for the eighth with a championship on the line is just stupid.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:28 PM
What are we complaining about? Waist high dead middle fastball. Swing the bat
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:29 PM
I can't stand seeing us crying like b*tches out there. Those are strikes!!!! Swing!!!
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:29 PM
If Plumlee comes out to pitch, we deserve to be swept.
archdog
05-18-2017, 09:29 PM
In other news, I think Auburn's pitcher has a perfect game working into the 8th against Mississippi.
CadaverDawg
05-18-2017, 09:29 PM
Yeah, why haven't they banned me for sticking up for myself and responding. God knows they're not gonna say a damn thing to you for posting you had sex with my daughter in a sex club or something.
And while they have no problem jumping my ass for "not letting this shit go", they are damn sure not going to say a thing about you and Cadaver keeping it going, days after my last post.
I've learned the hard way, it's not actually about having rules, and it's not about being fair or objective. It's about who you are buddies with, and whether they have the authority and protection to do whatever they want.
But hey, I have no doubt I will soon be trashed again for this post, and accused of not "dropping it" or ignoring it. Apparently only I am supposed to "ignore it".
Whatever. I'm just gonna stop giving a shit. Do your worst. We both know you get me with both hands tied behind my back while you and your buddies get to gang up and do what you want.
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HailState15
05-18-2017, 09:29 PM
Top order for bottom of 9. Last chance here. Got to have easy inning.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:30 PM
Wow just wow. Laughable.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:31 PM
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Hey Cadaver we may lose but hey we saved Self and Price. Yay!
CadaverDawg
05-18-2017, 09:34 PM
Hey Cadaver we may lose but hey we saved Self and Price. Yay!
We gonna shut these fools down in the 8th and 9th on Saturday when we're down 7-1 and staring down the barrel of a sweep. No doubt.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:35 PM
This is a 2-1 game if we pitch our best here. Let's hope the gamble pays off. These decisions tonight though. Not benching Poole with the bases loaded and pitching Plumlee the eighth and ninth (who allowed a run to make it 3-1) cost us this game.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:37 PM
Whatevs.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:39 PM
Let's just hope A&M wins their series with Arkansas cause if not 5 seed here we come.
Bothrops
05-18-2017, 09:40 PM
I feel like we're gonna get swept now.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:40 PM
I feel like we're gonna get swept now.
Me too.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:40 PM
This is why I'm not crazy about Jake hitting 3rd. 3rd spot should have pop
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:42 PM
This is why I'm not crazy about Jake hitting 3rd. 3rd spot should have pop
He has zero bat discipline. You can't hit him first either.
CadaverDawg
05-18-2017, 09:43 PM
I would never throw Mangum a strike. He should be an easy out for most teams. He kills himself by only hitting shit pitches for weak contact. It's a shame. He has to know, but clearly isn't trying to fix it
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:44 PM
How fitting to end on a strikeout...
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:44 PM
Way to stand there Cody
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:46 PM
If LSU sweeps and U.K. takes the Florida series, LSU will win the SEC on our field. Great. Good job guys. Way to wilt down the stretch.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:47 PM
Way to stand there Cody
Yep. If he immediately takes off he beats the throw. It was almost as great as the Poole swing and miss stand there on one of his stikeouts after a ball got away from the catcher.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:49 PM
Last 27 innings of sec play, we've scored 3 runs. The wheels on the bus go round-and-... nevermind they've fell off
Pitching has been good enough to win last 3 sec games, but we can't score
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:50 PM
I would never throw Mangum a strike. He should be an easy out for most teams. He kills himself by only hitting shit pitches for weak contact. It's a shame. He has to know, but clearly isn't trying to fix it
He's a kid who refuses to take a walk. He refuses to look at pitches. He got mainly fastballs last year and that is a big reason he had a lot of success. This year he is getting more breaking pitches and offspeed stuff so he had to adjust. Unfortunately, he has not adjusted.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:51 PM
Last 27 innings of sec play, we've scored 3 runs. The wheels on the bus go round-and-... nevermind they've fell off
Pitching has been good enough to win last 3 sec games, but we can't score
If we bench Alexander and Poole and start Macnamee and Bragg, we win at least 2 of those 3 games.
NCDawg
05-18-2017, 09:51 PM
It appears the only way we're going to win another SEC game is to hold the other team scoreless. We've scored one run in each of the last 3 SEC games.
Bully13
05-18-2017, 09:51 PM
Damn TJ disease strikes uhGAIN****
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 09:55 PM
It appears the only way we're going to win another SEC game is to hold the other team scoreless. We've scored one run in each of the last 3 SEC games.
Yep. Our only hope is that Cann suddenly has a revelation and benches Poole and Alexander. Until that happens, expect these struggles.
lamont
05-18-2017, 09:55 PM
Last 27 innings of sec play, we've scored 3 runs. The wheels on the bus go round-and-... nevermind they've fell off
Pitching has been good enough to win last 3 sec games, but we can't score
But you agreed to start defense???? I'm the one clamoring to start the better hitters. We see what happens yet again
Bothrops
05-18-2017, 09:55 PM
LSU will win the West, win the SEC tournament, win their Regional, and win their Super Regional. They're Omaha bound with missing pieces, a typical LSU run.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:56 PM
Damn TJ disease strikes uhGAIN****
We can blame TJ and you can't really disagree; but the fact is if we hit the ball ANY the last 3 sec games, we're in a position to win the sec.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 09:57 PM
But you agreed to start defense???? I'm the one clamoring to start the better hitters. We see what happens yet again
If Alexander, lovelady, or Poole is up with bases loaded, you PH no question in situations like Poole and lovelady saw tonight
archdog
05-18-2017, 10:00 PM
Last 27 innings of sec play, we've scored 3 runs. The wheels on the bus go round-and-... nevermind they've fell off
Pitching has been good enough to win last 3 sec games, but we can't score
Maybe we should bunt more. Also, I ruined the Auburn guys perfect game by mentioning it. Ha.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 10:09 PM
Screw this putting Stovall at the nine. Why not bench Alexander and Poole and bat Lovelady at the nine, move Stovall up to the seven hole, put Bragg in the eight spot and have Macnamee and Vansau hitting sixth and seventh. That would shore up our lineup and make it at least servicable. Batting Lovelady Alexander and Poole together is a big reason why we have lost our last three SEC games. When one player has 30% of your strikeouts and three of those guys have half of your strikeouts, you have to fix the lineup right? If Cann does nothing and keeps the lineup as is, my prediction is we have a very short SEC tournament and post season.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 10:15 PM
Screw this putting Stovall at the nine. Why not bench Alexander and Poole and bat Lovelady at the nine, move Stovall up to the seven hole, put Bragg in the eight spot and have Macnamee and Vansau hitting sixth and seventh. That would shore up our lineup and make it at least servicable. Batting Lovelady Alexander and Poole together is a big reason why we have lost our last three SEC games. When one player has 30% of your strikeouts and three of those guys have half of your strikeouts, you have to fix the lineup right? If Cann does nothing and keeps the lineup as is, my prediction is we have a very short SEC tournament and post season.
I complained forever about Stovall 9th and finally quit, but it makes no sense. We want to get lovelady, Alexander, and Poole more ABs than Stovall. It never made sense
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 10:19 PM
I complained forever about Stovall 9th and finally quit, but it makes no sense. We want to get lovelady, Alexander, and Poole more ABs than Stovall. It never made sense
If Stovall is moved up even just one batter just one, the game would have been tied 2-2 and the dumb dumbs would have made the right decision and put in Self in the eighth and we probably are still playing baseball in extras right now.
Todd4State
05-18-2017, 10:20 PM
We can blame TJ and you can't really disagree; but the fact is if we hit the ball ANY the last 3 sec games, we're in a position to win the sec.
Yep. I think our guys are choking because of the fact that they could do something special and they're letting the moment Get too big.
We pat these players on the back and they try to do too much.
Ari Gold
05-18-2017, 10:20 PM
Bragg was MIA.. don't even think he dressed .. he is obviously a *****
I have been telling everyone for months LA isn't a SEC caliber player.
This isn't on Cann.
It's obvious AD Cohen was spending more time getting groomed for the AD gig than he was recruiting position players..
Todd4State
05-18-2017, 10:23 PM
Maybe we should bunt more. Also, I ruined the Auburn guys perfect game by mentioning it. Ha.
Or maybe we can actually play the best players for a change. I mean I know it was Troy but we scored 10 runs on Tuesday doing that.
Bragg has been ill. That's part of the reason he hasn't been playing lately. Poole however should not play. RF is not an elite defensive position. The only way we could justify playing Poole would be if he was Hunter Renfroe good defensively and he's not.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 10:25 PM
Or maybe we can actually play the best players for a change. I mean I know it was Troy but we scored 10 runs on Tuesday doing that.
Bragg has been ill. That's part of the reason he hasn't been playing lately. Poole however should not play. RF is not an elite defensive position. The only way we could justify playing Poole would be if he was Hunter Renfroe good defensively and he's not.
If Poole can't get that throw to the plate to cut down the 3rd run, he shouldn't play over macnamee.
Todd4State
05-18-2017, 10:27 PM
If Poole can't get that throw to the plate to cut down the 3rd run, he shouldn't play over macnamee.
Absolutely.
CadaverDawg
05-18-2017, 10:33 PM
We need more power somewhere in our lineup. And get Stovall up in the order...
Stovall 2B
Mangum CF
Rooker 1B
Gridley SS
Cody LF
Bragg 3B
Macnamee RF
Vansau DH
Lovelady C
Something like that. Look at what swapping Poole & LA for Macnamee & Bragg does to our lineup. We go from our run potential stopping in the 5 hole, to it never really stopping until Lovelady...and Josh has been the better of the 3 in the black hole
Todd4State
05-18-2017, 10:33 PM
Bragg was MIA.. don't even think he dressed .. he is obviously a *****
I have been telling everyone for months LA isn't a SEC caliber player.
This isn't on Cann.
It's obvious AD Cohen was spending more time getting groomed for the AD gig than he was recruiting position players..
The buck stops with Cohen but I wonder how much of it was Mingione.
I think Butch recruited some quality pitchers- it's just that most of them have gotten hurt.
At any rate I ultimately think it was a breakdown in recruiting philosophy. Oh we lost Austin Riley to MLB? OK- let's get Tanner Poole from JUCO. People thought I went off the deep end when I complained about that philosophy two years ago but I don't think anyone will disagree with it or think I am "melting" now.
That's where I think/hope Cann will help us going forward- our recruiting problem has boiled down to losing too many guys to the draft, losing too many juniors to the draft, and not having a quality contingency plan in place when we lose a player to the draft.
I heard Ben McDonald talking about LSU tonight- Kramer Robertson, Cole Freeman, Deichman, Poche- ALL returned to LSU. What kind of team would they be right now without those guys? What kind of team would we be with Austin Sexton, Jack Kruger, Zac Houston, and maybe Nate Lowe? Cann is a big reason why those guys came back.
Todd4State
05-18-2017, 10:35 PM
We need more power somewhere in our lineup. And get Stovall up in the order...
Stovall 2B
Mangum CF
Rooker 1B
Gridley SS
Cody LF
Bragg 3B
Macnamee RF
Vansau DH
Lovelady C
Something like that. Look at what swapping Poole & LA for Macnamee & Bragg does to our lineup. We go from our run potential stopping in the 5 hole, to it never really stopping until Lovelady...and Josh has been the better of the 3 in the black hole
LA = Kivon Coman
Poole = Holloway up the middle
CadaverDawg
05-18-2017, 10:37 PM
LA = Kivon Coman
Poole = Holloway up the middle
Yep.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 10:59 PM
Lettuce on sps said Lange mouthed "f' you" to Cann after the 6th. Our swagger seems to be gone
CadaverDawg
05-18-2017, 11:04 PM
Lettuce on sps said Lange mouthed "f' you" to Cann after the 6th. Our swagger seems to be gone
Pure class those LSU Tigers are. What Cann should have done was stay in Baton Rouge as an assistant and turn down being the head man at one of the premier jobs in the country, to keep guys like Alex D-Bag Lange happy.**
Who are these corn dog ****ers
Todd4State
05-18-2017, 11:06 PM
Pure class those LSU Tigers are. What Cann should have done was stay in Baton Rouge as an assistant and turn down being the head man at one of the premier jobs in the country, to keep guys like Alex D-Bag Lange happy.**
Who are these corn dog ****ers
In about two years- our bitches.
Skydawg1
05-18-2017, 11:24 PM
In about two years- our bitches.Why not next year? We get tons of pitching back and they lose Lange and Poche. Hopefully someone will come after Alan Dunn.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 11:26 PM
Why not next year? We get tons of pitching back and they lose Lange and Poche. Hopefully someone will come after Alan Dunn.
We probably lose our top 4 hitters
Skydawg1
05-18-2017, 11:29 PM
We probably lose our top 4 hittersOh yeah, that.
Todd4State
05-18-2017, 11:30 PM
We probably lose our top 4 hitters
I think Mangum comes back.
Probably Gridley too.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 11:32 PM
I think Mangum comes back.
Good start. I think macnamee and vansau are good hitters next season. I think Skelton and Alexander make big jumps.
ETA... get gridley and mangum and that's a game changer. I really think vansau and macnamee give us some thump next season
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 11:32 PM
We probably lose our top 4 hitters
Gridley will be back and Mangum should be back. Mangum isn't ready for Pro-Ball. He'll have a lot of leverage if he comes back for his junior year. Should be pretty easy decision.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 11:33 PM
Good start. I think macnamee and vansau are good hitters next season. I think Skelton and Alexander make big jumps
Shit Alexander better make a gargantuan jump.
Todd4State
05-18-2017, 11:33 PM
Why not next year? We get tons of pitching back and they lose Lange and Poche. Hopefully someone will come after Alan Dunn.
Hopefully that someone is us. No offense to Gary Henderson who has done a great job this year.
We go to Baton Rouge next year.
MarketingBully
05-18-2017, 11:35 PM
Hopefully that someone is us. No offense to Gary Henderson who has done a great job this year.
We go to Baton Rouge next year.
Yep. How many players do you see us losing to the draft? We got a ton of great recruits especially INF/OF players.
Todd4State
05-18-2017, 11:38 PM
Good start. I think macnamee and vansau are good hitters next season. I think Skelton and Alexander make big jumps.
ETA... get gridley and mangum and that's a game changer. I really think vansau and macnamee give us some thump next season
Actually I hope some of our freshmen OF's beat out MacNamee and Vansau. No guarantee on that though- but the guys we have coming in have much higher ceilings. I think the Cape will do LA some good. I think Skelton frames pitches better than Lovelady already. We'll see how he does this summer and that will probably give us an indication on what kind of jumps we will see. My guess is Skelton will be around .250 next year and put up numbers similar to Lovelady this year.
msstate7
05-18-2017, 11:41 PM
Actually I hope some of our freshmen OF's beat out MacNamee and Vansau. No guarantee on that though- but the guys we have coming in have much higher ceilings. I think the Cape will do LA some good. I think Skelton frames pitches better than Lovelady already. We'll see how he does this summer and that will probably give us an indication on what kind of jumps we will see. My guess is Skelton will be around .250 next year and put up numbers similar to Lovelady this year.
If someone beats our vansau and macnamee, even better. I really like how vansau drives the ball to the opposite field. I think with an offseason, he could get those deep flies over the fence
Todd4State
05-18-2017, 11:43 PM
Yep. How many players do you see us losing to the draft? We got a ton of great recruits especially INF/OF players.
My guess is about 4-6 recruits and then Rooker and that's probably about it other than Cody and Lovelady. I could see someone taking a flyer on Rigby and Bragg and I could see them leaving kind of like Paul Young and Vance Tatum did last year.
Most of the recruits that I think we will lose are JUCO guys- Pearson McMahan, Rey Rivieria, and Troy Bacon. I think we lose Quenton Holmes. I could see Anderson and Hutchinson being risks but I think there is a decent chance we get both.
Todd4State
05-18-2017, 11:50 PM
If someone beats our vansau and macnamee, even better. I really like how vansau drives the ball to the opposite field. I think with an offseason, he could get those deep flies over the fence
Yeah- they're not bad players. Them starting is not out of the realm of possibility at all. Both of them need to work on their defense a little bit. But I think there's going to be a lot of competition out there. I think everyone will benefit from Cann in the fall and offseason next year. Jordan Anderson if we get him is an Under Armour AA guy and Tanner Allen is the guy that Manieri was pissed at Cann for "poaching". He's the kind of guy LSU typically gets that is able to contribute as a freshman. Owen Lovell could figure in the mix and possibly start as well.
Tanner Poole is really going to have to step it up this summer too.
MarketingBully
05-19-2017, 04:55 AM
My guess is about 4-6 recruits and then Rooker and that's probably about it other than Cody and Lovelady. I could see someone taking a flyer on Rigby and Bragg and I could see them leaving kind of like Paul Young and Vance Tatum did last year.
Most of the recruits that I think we will lose are JUCO guys- Pearson McMahan, Rey Rivieria, and Troy Bacon. I think we lose Quenton Holmes. I could see Anderson and Hutchinson being risks but I think there is a decent chance we get both.
That's a huge chunk of our class to lose. I hope like heck Cann can use his magic to get it down to 1-2. This has been part of our problem under Cohen and is why we are where we are.
Todd4State
05-19-2017, 08:51 AM
That's a huge chunk of our class to lose. I hope like heck Cann can use his magic to get it down to 1-2. This has been part of our problem under Cohen and is why we are where we are.
Cann didn't put our class together aside from a couple of guys. I think getting guys into school is as much about identifying high end guys that actually really do want to go to school vs just sweet talking them into coming to school. That's actually where Cann's scouting ties come into play.
I don't expect to see changes with that until next year and then by 2019 we'll start seeing typical Cann classes in terms of both rating and retention. Right now I think Perfect Game has our next three classes rated in the top 10 already.
MarketingBully
05-19-2017, 08:57 AM
Cann didn't put our class together aside from a couple of guys. I think getting guys into school is as much about identifying high end guys that actually really do want to go to school vs just sweet talking them into coming to school. That's actually where Cann's scouting ties come into play.
I don't expect to see changes with that until next year and then by 2019 we'll start seeing typical Cann classes in terms of both rating and retention. Right now I think Perfect Game has our next three classes rated in the top 10 already.
Oh I agree and am not putting this on Cann at all. The most recruits you should lose are 3 tops. If you get to the 5-6 range, you are in a world of hurt and are doing it wrong.
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