Freeze is actually compared to the Apostle Paul (Link)

[TrapGame]

I shit you not: https://omrebelnation.com/hugh-freeze-is-a-bad-person-99c502e3b4d6

Anyone needing more proof that the shitbirds are a cult that meet in the Grove look no further.

[Pollodawg]

Total cult.

[ShotgunDawg]

I don't necessarily disagree with the premise of this article and to be honest I'm not totally sure where Freeze's heart lies and nor is it my right to judge that.

What I do know, however, is that he's severely broke NCAA rules, was a hypocrite in front of many, and should never coach college football again.

Where his heart lies in terms of his salvation is between him and God. I could care less and don't believe what his beliefs are should have any influence on whether or not he should be able to coach college football.

My personal opinion, if a gun was put to my head, is that Freeze is a very conflicted man. He knows too much about the Gospel to be a complete fraud. What I do think though is that he's an extremely ambitious man that made minor concessions along the way to reach his goals and be accepted as successful. Then the minor concessions became a slippery and he lost control. Either way, he cheated and should never coach again.

[Tbonewannabe]

I don't necessarily disagree with the premise of this article and to be honest I'm not totally sure where Freeze's heart lies and nor is it my right to judge that.

What I do know, however, is that he's severely broke NCAA rules, was a hypocrite in front of many, and should never coach college football again.

Where his heart lies in terms of his salvation is between him and God. I could care less and don't believe what his beliefs are should have any influence on whether or not he should be able to coach college football.

My personal opinion, if a gun was put to my head, is that Freeze is a very conflicted man. He knows too much about the Gospel to be a complete fraud. What I do think though is that he's an extremely ambitious man that made minor concessions along the way to reach his goals and be accepted as successful. Then the minor concessions became a slippery and he lost control. Either way, he cheated and should never coach again.

I don't think the fact he can quote scripture means anything more than he has a good memory. I always find it funny when "servants of God" have 5,000 square foot houses and private jets. Maybe he really does care about people and he is in just a bad situation. Getting a show clause might be great for him in that it leads him to genuinely help people for the rest of his life. He should have enough money in the bank to comfortably retire so he could dedicate his life to something more important than entertainment.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

There are a couple of nice comments under the story and to add, I fail to see what his faith has to do with his coaching??? Being ridiculed and mocked for being a Christian is not even on the same planet as being ridiculed and mocked for engaging in cheating to get football players for multiple years. The person writing this and anyone who believes this nonsense needs to have a reality check and stop bringing his faith into this, thinking that it will somehow justify breaking rules to gain a competitive advantage.

[smootness]

Uh.....his proclamation of the gospel does not imply his moral superiority. But quotes like this do:

“Well, Coach Freeze told me when you’re that big and out there with faith in Christ, he’s like, ‘What do you expect? Jesus got nailed to the cross,’” Calloway said.

“No doubt there were universities and staffs that chose to talk about us. I’m not privy to the direct conversations so I can’t say exactly what was said, but when we were in the battle for a lot of kids it came up with other staffs. I don’t go too much on hearsay. I choose not to talk about other staffs and other programs when we’re recruiting, and I respect the heck out of those others– and there are many– that do it that way. I do believe there are some that chose to use it to their advantage and that’s the choice they had to make.”

“I’m the type of guy who goes straight to people. I’ll have conversations with people if I deem that’s the right thing to do. Some, I probably don’t know well enough and will let it go. It’s made my appreciation for the people who do it the right way that much greater, I know that. Many of them are in our conference and my friendship has grown with several of those throughout this just because of the respect that I’ve gained even more when you’re in a great battle with an Alabama or somebody and they do it the right way in recruiting and I respect that.”

"From the moment I arrived in December 2011, I have emphasized to all of my staff that our program is founded on certain core values – faith, attitude, mental toughness, integrity and love. Integrity – doing things the right way. I am extremely disappointed to learn that any member of my staff violated any SEC or NCAA rules, and as the head coach, I regret those actions. Any behavior by my staff that is inconsistent with that commitment to do things the right way simply does not reflect the emphasis I personally place on NCAA compliance. As the record will show, I am constantly communicating to our compliance office, the SEC office, and industry leaders to make sure we are using best practices when it comes to doing things the right way. Contrary to the allegations, I have demonstrated throughout this entire process that I have a strong record of promoting compliance and monitoring my staff, and I look forward to presenting that evidence to the Committee on Infractions."

[BeardoMSU]

He knows too much about the Gospel to be a complete fraud.

Is this a serious statement?
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[Jack Lambert]

“What do the church and the mafia have in common? You have to be bad to get in.”

What?

Side note: The Apostle Paul could not be crucified which is what Freeze is saying what happening.

[Pollodawg]

Dear Ole Miss fan reading this thread: No one "poisoned" your putrid program. You cheated. You got caught. You're done. State has more success in one sport than you do your entire athletics department. Always remember that.

[csdawg13]

He knows too much about the Gospel to be a complete fraud.

Even Satan has knowledge of the scriptures.

[JDog13]

Dear Ole Miss fan reading this thread: No one "poisoned" your putrid program. You cheated. You got caught. You're done. State has more success in one sport than you do your entire athletics department. Always remember that.

Don't ever make the assumption they are done. They won't stop until the NCAA chokes every bit of life out of them.

[Bully13]

When as a child, I thought as a child, as I grew to a man, I put away my childish ways.

[Dawg61]

He knows too much about the Gospel to be a complete fraud.


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xev3f_genesis-jesus-he-knows-me_news

Well I put a dailymotion video up but it's showing as blank so here's just the song, sorry, Scooooooba to the rescue


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zw054YA_dk

[Dawgology]

He's a fraud. End of discussion. I judge a man on his actions not his words. If those two things conflict then that person is (at best) a liar but most often a complete fraud. If the things being said about Freeze prove to be true then his actions are on the opposite end of the spectrum compared to what he "preaches". This equals a fraud.

[Beaver]

He's a fraud. End of discussion. I judge a man on his actions not his words. If those two things conflict then that person is (at best) a liar but most often a complete fraud. If the things being said about Freeze prove to be true then his actions are on the opposite end of the spectrum compared to what he "preaches". This equals a fraud.

Well, all us Christians are frauds. We all do stuff that conflict with the words we say. Freeze's mistakes just happen to be magnified because of his position. A few years ago, our preacher admitted to having an affair with the children's minister (who was also married w/kids). Turns out, it had been going on for 7 years, during which he had convinced our elders to fire nearly everybody else in the church office since they were getting suspicious. Talk about systematic cheating... After he resigned, he stayed with his wife (amazingly), did counseling, and rediscovered himself over a few years. He now preachers at another church in the area.

I'm with Shotgun. I think Freeze deep down is a good man who is very conflicted with how to win and please OM boosters while maintaining a strong faith. As a MSU fan, I hope he gets buried, and OM's program gets buried. And when that happens, I hope he'll spend time reflecting on what went wrong and rediscover himself like my former preacher. Additionally, I hope he realizes that God's Will has nothing to do with winning football games and NCAA investigations are not real 'trials and tribulations'...

[Bully13]

Not bad beav

[JDog13]

Well, all us Christians are frauds. We all do stuff that conflict with the words we say. Freeze's mistakes just happen to be magnified because of his position. A few years ago, our preacher admitted to having an affair with the children's minister (who was also married w/kids). Turns out, it had been going on for 7 years, during which he had convinced our elders to fire nearly everybody else in the church office since they were getting suspicious. Talk about systematic cheating... After he resigned, he stayed with his wife (amazingly), did counseling, and rediscovered himself over a few years. He now preachers at another church in the area.

I'm with Shotgun. I think Freeze deep down is a good man who is very conflicted with how to win and please OM boosters while maintaining a strong faith. As a MSU fan, I hope he gets buried, and OM's program gets buried. And when that happens, I hope he'll spend time reflecting on what went wrong and rediscover himself like my former preacher. Additionally, I hope he realizes that God's Will has nothing to do with winning football games and NCAA investigations are not real 'trials and tribulations'...

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[Jack Lambert]

Well, all us Christians are frauds. We all do stuff that conflict with the words we say. Freeze's mistakes just happen to be magnified because of his position. A few years ago, our preacher admitted to having an affair with the children's minister (who was also married w/kids). Turns out, it had been going on for 7 years, during which he had convinced our elders to fire nearly everybody else in the church office since they were getting suspicious. Talk about systematic cheating... After he resigned, he stayed with his wife (amazingly), did counseling, and rediscovered himself over a few years. He now preachers at another church in the area.

I'm with Shotgun. I think Freeze deep down is a good man who is very conflicted with how to win and please OM boosters while maintaining a strong faith. As a MSU fan, I hope he gets buried, and OM's program gets buried. And when that happens, I hope he'll spend time reflecting on what went wrong and rediscover himself like my former preacher. Additionally, I hope he realizes that God's Will has nothing to do with winning football games and NCAA investigations are not real 'trials and tribulations'...

All Christians sin but not all christian are frauds.

[LockeDawg]

I'm the last person to judge another man's faith, religion, or relationship with a higher being.

Actions speak louder than words.

Freeze failed to monitor his own staff, players, and the very systems he put in place as head coach at OM.

OleMiss had zero control of their "Institution", period. When rampant cheating and a total disregard for the rules and regulations of the NCAA and the SEC are in existence in multiple sports, multiple coaches, multiple AD's, including Academic Fraud .............. then there is no control whatsoever of the Institution at he highest level of authority.

Religion, faith and the good man upstairs has nothing to do with the inner workings of the systematic cheating machine OleMiss built.

[Dawgology]

Well, all us Christians are frauds. We all do stuff that conflict with the words we say. Freeze's mistakes just happen to be magnified because of his position. A few years ago, our preacher admitted to having an affair with the children's minister (who was also married w/kids). Turns out, it had been going on for 7 years, during which he had convinced our elders to fire nearly everybody else in the church office since they were getting suspicious. Talk about systematic cheating... After he resigned, he stayed with his wife (amazingly), did counseling, and rediscovered himself over a few years. He now preachers at another church in the area.

I'm with Shotgun. I think Freeze deep down is a good man who is very conflicted with how to win and please OM boosters while maintaining a strong faith. As a MSU fan, I hope he gets buried, and OM's program gets buried. And when that happens, I hope he'll spend time reflecting on what went wrong and rediscover himself like my former preacher. Additionally, I hope he realizes that God's Will has nothing to do with winning football games and NCAA investigations are not real 'trials and tribulations'...

I'm not going to get into a theological debate but I know a lot of people who claim to be Christians that DON'T do that kind of thing. I call a spade where I see a spade. If you want to call yourself a Christian (or Muslim, or Scientologist, or Jedi) that's fine....act like one. Or don't claim it.

[TrapGame]

Well, all us Christians are frauds. We all do stuff that conflict with the words we say. Freeze's mistakes just happen to be magnified because of his position. A few years ago, our preacher admitted to having an affair with the children's minister (who was also married w/kids). Turns out, it had been going on for 7 years, during which he had convinced our elders to fire nearly everybody else in the church office since they were getting suspicious. Talk about systematic cheating... After he resigned, he stayed with his wife (amazingly), did counseling, and rediscovered himself over a few years. He now preachers at another church in the area.

I'm with Shotgun. I think Freeze deep down is a good man who is very conflicted with how to win and please OM boosters while maintaining a strong faith. As a MSU fan, I hope he gets buried, and OM's program gets buried. And when that happens, I hope he'll spend time reflecting on what went wrong and rediscover himself like my former preacher. Additionally, I hope he realizes that God's Will has nothing to do with winning football games and NCAA investigations are not real 'trials and tribulations'...

Freeze is the preacher screwing the children's minister at every church he preaches at. It's not a one time thing. There are plenty of stories about him when he was at Briarcrest. He's using the good ole boy, aw shucks country preacher act to create someone that he is truly not.

Is Freeze a good man? HELL NO!

[LockeDawg]

Well, all us Christians are frauds. We all do stuff that conflict with the words we say. Freeze's mistakes just happen to be magnified because of his position. A few years ago, our preacher admitted to having an affair with the children's minister (who was also married w/kids). Turns out, it had been going on for 7 years, during which he had convinced our elders to fire nearly everybody else in the church office since they were getting suspicious. Talk about systematic cheating... After he resigned, he stayed with his wife (amazingly), did counseling, and rediscovered himself over a few years. He now preachers at another church in the area.

I'm with Shotgun. I think Freeze deep down is a good man who is very conflicted with how to win and please OM boosters while maintaining a strong faith. As a MSU fan, I hope he gets buried, and OM's program gets buried. And when that happens, I hope he'll spend time reflecting on what went wrong and rediscover himself like my former preacher. Additionally, I hope he realizes that God's Will has nothing to do with winning football games and NCAA investigations are not real 'trials and tribulations'...I'm shocked your former philandering preacher had the tenacity to stay in the ministry and another church agreed to have him lead their flock. After 7 (SEVEN) years of adultery in addition to bamboozling the "elders" of the church to terminate everyone else in the church so that his adultery could continue unimpeded for years on end, I wonder how another congregation was willing accept him?

A man can ask for forgiveness, seek and accept counseling and rediscover themselves and at the same time find a profession where they aren't tasked with preaching, teaching and mentoring others down the path of the straight and narrow.

[Jack Lambert]

I'm shocked your former philandering preacher had the tenacity to stay in the ministry and another church agreed to have him lead their flock. After 7 (SEVEN) years of adultery in addition to bamboozling the "elders" of the church to terminate everyone else in the church so that his adultery could continue unimpeded for years on end, I wonder how another congregation was willing accept him?

A man can ask for forgiveness, seek and accept counseling and rediscover themselves and at the same time find a profession where they aren't tasked with preaching, teaching and mentoring others down the path of the straight and narrow.

And go rub one off.

[Mimi's Babies]

My issue is....
When a recruit TOLD ME....
That he was given an escort for the weekend that would do what ever he wanted and was at his beckon call.... Also "named called" as to what coach told him this.....

That is ILLEGAL in Mississippi... prostitutes and whore houses are age 21 and over....... bringing prostitutes across the state line in another issue. Who PAID these women??? Which booster was supplying the money to the coach? Most of these students are 17 and 18 years old.... Do NOT tell me Freeze had no idea this was happening UNDER his watch..... To think he has daughters...
I cannot stand to look at him. I have TRIED to be an example for these young men.... Putting morals, ethics and my Christian beliefs above all else and here we have coaches, boosters, businesses that are ALL involved in ILLEGAL activities.... Many recruiters have encouraged the parents to "SELL their child's soul to hell (OM) and now they have been paid for".... Think about it.... With all the "rumors" and what was actually told to the NCAA... there is no doubt that Freeze and the rest of them need to be severed from EVER coaching again.... This mess MUST stop....

[msujan]

Even Satan has knowledge of the scriptures.

And as for memorizing verses, maybe. More than likely cut-and-paste, or even more likely, COPYING.

[Maroon Wizardry]

this shits a year old. no need to rehash it another will be written soon

[Bully13]

My issue is....
When a recruit TOLD ME....
That he was given an escort for the weekend that would do what ever he wanted and was at his beckon call.... Also "named called" as to what coach told him this.....

That is ILLEGAL in Mississippi... prostitutes and whore houses are age 21 and over....... bringing prostitutes across the state line in another issue. Who PAID these women??? Which booster was supplying the money to the coach? Most of these students are 17 and 18 years old.... Do NOT tell me Freeze had no idea this was happening UNDER his watch..... To think he has daughters...
I cannot stand to look at him. I have TRIED to be an example for these young men.... Putting morals, ethics and my Christian beliefs above all else and here we have coaches, boosters, businesses that are ALL involved in ILLEGAL activities.... Many recruiters have encouraged the parents to "SELL their child's soul to hell (OM) and now they have been paid for".... Think about it.... With all the "rumors" and what was actually told to the NCAA... there is no doubt that Freeze and the rest of them need to be severed from EVER coaching again.... This mess MUST stop....

On 2nd thought, I think this one is bettern beavers.

[Jack Lambert]

And as for memorizing verses, maybe. More than likely cut-and-paste, or even more likely, COPYING.

Jesus can hit a curve ball can Freeze?

[State82]

Jesus can hit a curve ball can Freeze?

Very doubtful. But he can certainly throw one at recruits. A nasty 55 foot breaking ball in the dirt that has them swinging and missing badly.

[TUSK]

Jesus may be able to hit a curve, but he still wouldn't have a prayer to play on special teams under MDL....

this whole thread is ridic.

just stahp.

[BeardoMSU]

this whole thread is ridic.

just stahp.

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[msbulldog]

Jesus may be able to hit a curve, but he still wouldn't have a prayer to play on special teams under MDL....

this whole thread is ridic.

just stahp.

Mind your own Alabama business.

[RocketDawg]

Jesus may be able to hit a curve, but he still wouldn't have a prayer to play on special teams under MDL....

this whole thread is ridic.

just stahp.

To say the least ....

[Beaver]

A man can ask for forgiveness, seek and accept counseling and rediscover themselves and at the same time find a profession where they aren't tasked with preaching, teaching and mentoring others down the path of the straight and narrow.

Wait, which Bible verse is that?

David had a man killed so he could sleep with a pretty naked woman he saw bathing on the rooftops. Did God remove him from his position? Look it took along time for me and my family to forgive the preacher. He hurt us and a lot of other people. But there is nowhere in the New Testament that says to give up ministering to others. Paul killed tons of Christians for years, and God decided to use him...

[Reason2succeed]

Hugh has a thorn in his flesh for five star LTs, WRs, and DEs but Archie's grace is sufficient!

[Reason2succeed]

I figured it out. Hugh is dead to the Law of the NCAA (remember his funeral) and now he lives by faith in himself and the grace of Archie.

[Tbonewannabe]

Hugh is just waiting for the show clause to come down and then will get baptized with all those sins washed away.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Hugh is just waiting for the show clause to come down and then will get baptized with all those sins washed away.

I believe he is a "Baptist" so the baptism isn't necessary.