MSU vs Georgia game 2

[CadaverDawg]

That's why Mangum has to stay at 1st there. That was our shot and we took it away from ourselves.

Yea but you can't take Mangum's game away from him. We needed 3 runs, so walking Rooker isn't the worst thing in the World. Even with Mangum on 1st, they wouldn't throw Rooker good pitches. Don't get me wrong, I see what you're saying, but I just don't think you can ask Mangum to stay there.

[MarketingBully]

How many walks for Plumlee?

[CadaverDawg]

Unbelievable Plumlee....from 0-2 to a walk. That is ridiculous

[WSOPdawg]

yeah!!! way to walk the .180-hitting 9-hole hitter. Lets bring up the leadoff hitter.

[CadaverDawg]

Bring in Our Lefty...or else we're bout to be down by more

[VandelayIndustries]

0-2 and none of the next are 4 are close

[Coldsleeve Jr.]

It's over **** everything

[smootness]

Yea but you can't take Mangum's game away from him. We needed 3 runs, so walking Rooker isn't the worst thing in the World. Even with Mangum on 1st, they wouldn't throw Rooker good pitches. Don't get me wrong, I see what you're saying, but I just don't think you can ask Mangum to stay there.

I think you can. The guys have to be into the game enough to realize the situation. If they walk Rooker anyway, fine. But you have to force them to make the decision.

I think we all agree that it isn't good for us when the bat is taken out of Rooker's hands, even if it gives us another man on base. And we did it to ourselves.

[MarketingBully]

Just put Self in for one freaking batter shit.

[VandelayIndustries]

Thanks Plumlee

[MarketingBully]

That was on Rooker. You have to dig that out.

[msstate7]

Smootness, I looked it up again...

In sec play, we're now 17-34 in SBs

http://a.espncdn.com/sec/baseball/2017/lgconf.htm

[CadaverDawg]

Bring in Our Lefty...or else we're bout to be down by more

Yep

[MarketingBully]

How the hell is Plumlee still in the game?

[CadaverDawg]

I think you can. The guys have to be into the game enough to realize the situation. If they walk Rooker anyway, fine. But you have to force them to make the decision.

I think we all agree that it isn't good for us when the bat is taken out of Rooker's hands, even if it gives us another man on base. And we did it to ourselves.

Rooker hits into a DP and we're saying Mangum should be on 2nd

[MarketingBully]

Bring in SELF assholes!

[CadaverDawg]

We gave up earlier

[msbulldog]

Helluva catch Mangum!

[MarketingBully]

We gave up earlier

I hate this shit. I know we have a limited bullpen but once again just leave Plumlee out there we lost this one anyway ****ed us up the asshole against Auburn,

[VandelayIndustries]

Got to win tomorrow and then hope LSU cools off on the road in Starkville next weekend

[MarketingBully]

We beat ourselves everyway the game.

[msstate7]

Once the lead was 2 and plumlee issued leadoff walk, you bring in Barlow imo

[Coldsleeve Jr.]

Let's rips this midget

[msstate7]

West still in play, but sec done with imo.

[MarketingBully]

Once the lead was 2 and plumlee issued leadoff walk, you bring in Barlow imo

That one run we gave up could be huge.

[99jc]

Chalk this loss up to just an overall bad performance....lot a season left...still love this team I believe we will beat the shit outta Georgia tomorrow

[VandelayIndustries]

What a terrible at bat

[CadaverDawg]

West still in play, but sec done with imo.

Yep. Won't be surprised if we lose tomorrow too

[msbulldog]

Well Vansau and Bragg pinch hitting didn't work out to well.

[WSOPdawg]

GA pitcher looks like a hobbit compared to Cole Gordon

[CadaverDawg]

What a waste of an afternoon

[Cloak]

Put Gordon in when we need baserunners??? What???

[99jc]

HAIL STATE

[MarketingBully]

This team beat itself today fellas. Just plain sucked today.

[basedog]

Just win tomorrow.

[MarketingBully]

3 of their 4 runs on walks. Batters swinging at about 4-5 ball fours. This has nothing to do with this team is "over achieving" bullshit. This was a plain old we weren't focused and we didn't give it our all today, played like little leaguers and got beat by one of the worst teams in the SEC without pitching our best pitchers as well.

[Todd4State]

This team drives me nuts. ****ing walking too many people. ****ing swinging at pitched out of the zone. Run the bases like shit.

[CJDAWG85]

Wow. Give up 4 hits and lose in a must win game... typical MSU.

[Todd4State]

3 of their 4 runs on walks. Batters swinging at about 4-5 ball fours. This has nothing to do with this team is "over achieving" bullshit. This was a plain old we weren't focused and we didn't give it our all today, played like little leaguers and got beat by one of the worst teams in the SEC without pitching our best pitchers as well.

Rooker, Mangum, Gridley, Cody, Stovall when he's healthy and Price and Self have been carrying this team.

[msstate7]

This team drives me nuts. ****ing walking too many people. ****ing swinging at pitched out of the zone. Run the bases like shit.

Try being a braves' fan too haha

[Todd4State]

Try being a braves' fan too haha

At least the Cardinals are in first and beat the Cubs today so it definitely could be worse for me.

[MarketingBully]

Rooker, Mangum, Gridley, Cody, Stovall when he's healthy and Price and Self have been carrying this team.

Cody disappointed today as he contributed to the bungling. You can blame Macnamee all you want but I have never seen a guy parked at first like that on a ball that in no way in hell does that guy throw him out even if the guy does catch it trying to get back to first. Should have been runners at second and third and no one out. Would have been a much different situation and we probably win the game. That bungling between the two set the tone for that game and cost us big.

[VandelayIndustries]

Yea that was really dumb by Cody, should have had 2nd and 3rd with no outs. Oh well win tomorrow and set up the showdown next weekend

[basedog]

Regardless of the meltdown, we still control our destiny.

Win tomorrow and next weekend will be electric and a fun weekend.

This team has bounced back all year, I think they will tomorrow.

[ScoobaDawg]

Could of done it the easy way now we will have to do it the hard way. No biggie. Just win tomorrow.
Either way.. what a hell of a season.

[msstate7]

Bama may give us a reprieve... 3-1 bama t3

[MarketingBully]

Regardless of the meltdown, we still control our destiny.

Win tomorrow and next weekend will be electric and a fun weekend.

This team has bounced back all year, I think they will tomorrow.

UGA's Sunday starter is horrible. We just didn't have it today and everything went against us. We did more to help UGA win. Now we just need to come out there tomorrow and be focused like we were on Friday and we will easily take the series. Gotta go to Self though at first sign of any trouble.

[smootness]

Smootness, I looked it up again...

In sec play, we're now 17-34 in SBs

http://a.espncdn.com/sec/baseball/2017/lgconf.htm

That is straight up awful. That kind of base running is killing us.

[smootness]

Rooker hits into a DP and we're saying Mangum should be on 2nd

Not me. You live and die with the best hitter in college baseball. I don't want to take the bat out of his hand just because he might hit into a DP. I mean, Mangum going to 2B doesn't take away the DP risk anyway because they're just going to load them up.

[CJDAWG85]

UGA's Sunday starter is horrible. We just didn't have it today and everything went against us. We did more to help UGA win. Now we just need to come out there tomorrow and be focused like we were on Friday and we will easily take the series. Gotta go to Self though at first sign of any trouble.

The SP today had a 5.93 ERA...

[MarketingBully]

The SP today had a 5.93 ERA...

All their starting pitchers are shitty. It's the worst staff in the SEC. Our freeswingers got their SP off the hook numerous times. McQuery didn't pitch much worse at all then their pitcher. They just didn't swing at ball four on 3-2 counts like we did. This game could have been so much different if we would have been a little more patient at the plate. With that said, Bragg needs to start tomorrow over Alexander. It's hard as hell having your 7 and 8 hitters auto outs in the lineup right now. We certainly can't have Alexander and Poole batting next to each other.

[CJDAWG85]

Not disagreeing here. We bailed them out and gave them opportunities.

[maroonmania]

All their starting pitchers are shitty. It's the worst staff in the SEC. Our freeswingers got their SP off the hook numerous times. McQuery didn't pitch much worse at all then their pitcher. They just didn't swing at ball four on 3-2 counts like we did. This game could have been so much different if we would have been a little more patient at the plate. With that said, Bragg needs to start tomorrow over Alexander. It's hard as hell having your 7 and 8 hitters auto outs in the lineup right now. We certainly can't have Alexander and Poole batting next to each other.

Bottom line is when a team takes Rooker out of the game like GA did today then some other guys are going to have come through and today nobody did. Macnamee ALMOST did but in the end his near home run ended up being equivalent to a fly out because of little league baserunning. And then in the 8th when they were willing to load the bases with Rooker and nobody out, we couldn't get a hit out of Gridley, Brown or Macnamee. Teams are just going to take Rooker out of our offense if nobody else can produce. One run won't win you many games.

[MarketingBully]

Bottom line is when a team takes Rooker out of the game like GA did today then some other guys are going to have come through and today nobody did. Macnamee ALMOST did but in the end his near home run ended up being equivalent to a fly out because of little league baserunning. And then in the 8th when they were willing to load the bases with Rooker and nobody out, we couldn't get a hit out of Gridley, Brown or Macnamee. Teams are just going to take Rooker out of our offense if nobody else can produce. One run won't win you many games.

I just don't see how anyone can blame Macnamee on that. It's a weird play that you aren't expecting the guy ahead of you to just sit on first. It was a little league mistake but Brown has to be like 75% of the way to second there. That's a ball that even Lovelady could have gotten to third on as the runner on first. You should also assume on that play that that kid isn't going to make the catch and in no way in hell was he going to.

[CadaverDawg]

I just don't see how anyone can blame Macnamee on that. It's a weird play that you aren't expecting the guy ahead of you to just sit on first. It was a little league mistake but Brown has to be like 75% of the way to second there. That's a ball that even Lovelady could have gotten to third on as the runner on first. You should also assume on that play that that kid isn't going to make the catch and in no way in hell was he going to.

It was a combination of errors...

#1 - Cody was trying to be cute and thought he would try to swipe 2nd after the dude caught it. He was guessing the guy would catch it, instead of getting himself in position to ensure he's on 3rd base if it's missed. Sometimes his tag attempt works out, but it was the wrong move on that play bc Macnamee crushed that ball and it was unlikely to be caught off the bat.

#2 - Macnamee has to be aware enough to glance down at Cody to make sure he doesn't overrun him...although he, like everyone else, was wondering what tf Cody was standing on 1st for. Cody made a much bigger lapse in judgement on this play.

#3 - This is why you don't **** around and have guys like Cole Gordon as 1st base coach. A legit 1B coach might've been screaming at Cody to run or at Macnamee to hold up at first. I'm not sure who the 1B coach was at the time, but I saw Gordon there a few times...and regardless, whoever it was did just as poor of a job as Macnamee if not worse.

IMO, if you're as bad at baserunning as we are....don't get cute there if you're Cody. Run to 2B where you take 3rd if it's dropped, and head your ass back to 1B if it's caught. Period. I see what he was doing, and if he had caught it and Cody gets to 2nd we're all looking at it as "smart"....but that ball looked uncatchable off the bat, so I just thought it was the wrong decision by Brown. Oh well, it's over now. Weird play. Shouldn't have been changed anyway bc the play should have been unreviewable

[I seen it dawg]

I think you can. The guys have to be into the game enough to realize the situation. If they walk Rooker anyway, fine. But you have to force them to make the decision.

I think we all agree that it isn't good for us when the bat is taken out of Rooker's hands, even if it gives us another man on base. And we did it to ourselves.

You can't have players not take a base when it's there. ****ing stupid.

[I seen it dawg]

Think about this...every phase of our game was horseshit today. All in one game...to me that's a good thing we get it all out of the way.

[CadaverDawg]

You can't have players not take a base when it's there. ****ing stupid.

I agree.

Telling a guy like Mangum, "remember Rooker hits behind you so don't try to stretch plays...just stay at first", seems pretty ridiculous to me.

[CadaverDawg]

Think about this...every phase of our game was horseshit today. All in one game...to me that's a good thing we get it all out of the way.

Good point. I'd feel much better if we whip their asses tomorrow, but I worry about our walk parade pitching staff.

I do not like waiting until Sunday every weekend before even seeing Self and Price, yet losing a game. I feel like we're handcuffing an already cuffed staff. That being said, I don't really have a solution.

[msstate7]

If we win tomorrow, it'll be our first series win at Georgia since '97. We just don't seem to play well there

[CadaverDawg]

If we win tomorrow, it'll be our first series win at Georgia since '97. We just don't seem to play well there

Yuck. Doesn't give me the warm & fuzzies about tomorrow

[I seen it dawg]

Good point. I'd feel much better if we whip their asses tomorrow, but I worry about our walk parade pitching staff.

I do not like waiting until Sunday every weekend before even seeing Self and Price, yet losing a game. I feel like we're handcuffing an already cuffed staff. That being said, I don't really have a solution.

There isn't a solution. It's what we are. Days like today should happen a lot more but because of our coaching staff and culture of our program they are limited. Which makes us where we are.

Think about this....look at auburn and us. Auburn is in a multi week nosedive with no signs of getting out of it. They arguably are more talented than us in totality. Our nose dives last innings, not weeks. That is a sign of the leadership at the top of the program. Our guy can get our players and team out of the nosedive much faster than most. The difference over a season in being in contention for titles is how fast the head guy rights the ship when the shit hits the fan. And every team in America has the shit hit the fan. I'd be surprised if we don't come out tomorrow and next weekend and play like we've been playing over the last month or so.

[Turfdawg67]

It's so funny... 4 pages when we win and 16 pages when we lose. We just love misery don't we... This team is so far and away better than we would ever had hoped they'd be, but if they lose, which happens on any given day in baseball, we'll rip them apart. But of course, come Sunday night (hopefully), we'll all be singing their graces again. Oh, the joy of being an MSU fan.

[CadaverDawg]

There isn't a solution. It's what we are. Days like today should happen a lot more but because of our coaching staff and culture of our program they are limited. Which makes us where we are.

Think about this....look at auburn and us. Auburn is in a multi week nosedive with no signs of getting out of it. They arguably are more talented than us in totality. Our nose dives last innings, not weeks. That is a sign of the leadership at the top of the program. Our guy can get our players and team out of the nosedive much faster than most. The difference over a season in being in contention for titles is how fast the head guy rights the ship when the shit hits the fan. And every team in America has the shit hit the fan. I'd be surprised if we don't come out tomorrow and next weekend and play like we've been playing over the last month or so.

Yep, it's crazy. Imagine a few years of Canny recruiting....gonna be fun.

As for the pitching point I'm trying to make....I just wish there was a way to get the benefit of two studs in our bullpen before the last 2 innings on Sunday. I feel like even using one of them on Saturday to help us get out of one of the jams, keep the game close, then save the other to close, could be beneficial. In other words, one to save us in bad situations, the other to save the game at the end.

So for tomorrow it would be like Instead of going with Cole Gordon automatically tomorrow when Billingsley walks the bases loaded in the 3rd with 1 out....give it over to Price, let him bail us out of the jam and give us 2-3 innings...then bring in Cole or Barlow, and close with Self, for example. Could do the same on Saturday's but in reverse (Self then let Price close), no? Would get us 3-4 innings from each every weekend, and likely shave a few runs off of our opponents total each weekend. Just a thought.

[Todd4State]

Yep, it's crazy. Imagine a few years of Canny recruiting....gonna be fun.

As for the pitching point I'm trying to make....I just wish there was a way to get the benefit of two studs in our bullpen before the last 2 innings on Sunday. I feel like even using one of them on Saturday to help us get out of one of the jams, keep the game close, then save the other to close, could be beneficial. In other words, one to save us in bad situations, the other to save the game at the end.

So for tomorrow it would be like Instead of going with Cole Gordon automatically tomorrow when Billingsley walks the bases loaded in the 3rd with 1 out....give it over to Price, let him bail us out of the jam and give us 2-3 innings...then bring in Cole or Barlow, and close with Self, for example. Could do the same on Saturday's but in reverse (Self then let Price close), no? Would get us 3-4 innings from each every weekend, and likely shave a few runs off of our opponents total each weekend. Just a thought.

Here's the problem as I see it. If we're down we automatically go to Plumlee and save our guys. I'd rather just go to Gordon first regardless of whether we're up or down. I think we're starting to be too rigid with our staff. It's like Self and Price have to pitch in the same game.

I just hope Rigby shows out in his bullpens next week.

And to answer your previous question- I'm pretty sure Coggin was coaching at first base.

[smootness]

You can't have players not take a base when it's there. ****ing stupid.

Yes you can, when doing so removes our best chance to win the game. I guarantee you UGA's coach was relieved when Mangum took 2nd because it removed a difficult decision. If the freshman is forced to pitch to Rooker there, our chance to win goes up. If a play reduces our chance to win, it is a bad play.

I get that it isn't usual and it's not easy to coach or prepare for. I'm not saying that staying at 1B is the obvious play and that Mangum is dumb for having gone. I get why he did it, and 99% of the time that is the right play. It just requires someone to be hyper aware. As soon as it got past the 1B, my immediate thought was, oh crap, don't take 2nd Mangum.

[MarketingBully]

It was a combination of errors...

#1 - Cody was trying to be cute and thought he would try to swipe 2nd after the dude caught it. He was guessing the guy would catch it, instead of getting himself in position to ensure he's on 3rd base if it's missed. Sometimes his tag attempt works out, but it was the wrong move on that play bc Macnamee crushed that ball and it was unlikely to be caught off the bat.

#2 - Macnamee has to be aware enough to glance down at Cody to make sure he doesn't overrun him...although he, like everyone else, was wondering what tf Cody was standing on 1st for. Cody made a much bigger lapse in judgement on this play.

#3 - This is why you don't **** around and have guys like Cole Gordon as 1st base coach. A legit 1B coach might've been screaming at Cody to run or at Macnamee to hold up at first. I'm not sure who the 1B coach was at the time, but I saw Gordon there a few times...and regardless, whoever it was did just as poor of a job as Macnamee if not worse.

IMO, if you're as bad at baserunning as we are....don't get cute there if you're Cody. Run to 2B where you take 3rd if it's dropped, and head your ass back to 1B if it's caught. Period. I see what he was doing, and if he had caught it and Cody gets to 2nd we're all looking at it as "smart"....but that ball looked uncatchable off the bat, so I just thought it was the wrong decision by Brown. Oh well, it's over now. Weird play. Shouldn't have been changed anyway bc the play should have been unreviewable

One more note. Let's say that would have been a home run. Because Brown parked his butt at first, wouldn't Macnamee still have been out and it would have only been one run on a two run homer? That's what made that play so frustrating. Brown shouldn't have parked his ass at first!

[MarketingBully]

Yes you can, when doing so removes our best chance to win the game. I guarantee you UGA's coach was relieved when Mangum took 2nd because it removed a difficult decision. If the freshman is forced to pitch to Rooker there, our chance to win goes up. If a play reduces our chance to win, it is a bad play.

I get that it isn't usual and it's not easy to coach or prepare for. I'm not saying that staying at 1B is the obvious play and that Mangum is dumb for having gone. I get why he did it, and 99% of the time that is the right play. It just requires someone to be hyper aware. As soon as it got past the 1B, my immediate thought was, oh crap, don't take 2nd Mangum.

We had bases loaded and no one out and got one run. You have to have your 3,4, and 5 guys come through in that situation. We should have put up a huge crooked number that inning with the meat of the order coming up. If we would have been patient at the plate and sat fastball, we would have.

[MarketingBully]

Think about this...every phase of our game was horseshit today. All in one game...to me that's a good thing we get it all out of the way.

Agreed. Today is a new day and we need to come out focused like we did on Friday and blow out this team like we can and should.

[MarketingBully]

Here's the problem as I see it. If we're down we automatically go to Plumlee and save our guys. I'd rather just go to Gordon first regardless of whether we're up or down. I think we're starting to be too rigid with our staff. It's like Self and Price have to pitch in the same game.

I just hope Rigby shows out in his bullpens next week.

And to answer your previous question- I'm pretty sure Coggin was coaching at first base.

Why not go to Gordon in that situation instead of Plumlee? On the positive with the pitchers we have available in game three, we should shut them down. We have to jump on them early instead of just sitting at zero until the third or later innings. We have to jump out early on offense and set the tone for the game. Their staff is horrible. No way should that guy they threw yesterday have shut us down. If a guy is going to walk you, let him! He was pitching high fastballs on 3-2 counts knowing we would swing at them. 4 of his 6 or so strikeouts were off high fastball ball fours.

[MarketingBully]

It's so funny... 4 pages when we win and 16 pages when we lose. We just love misery don't we... This team is so far and away better than we would ever had hoped they'd be, but if they lose, which happens on any given day in baseball, we'll rip them apart. But of course, come Sunday night (hopefully), we'll all be singing their graces again. Oh, the joy of being an MSU fan.

We beat ourselves in every facet of the game yesterday from the 9 or so walks which led to 3 of their 4 runs to the baserunning blunders to swinging at ball fours. When you are MSU and you play like shit, expect the ED game thread to look like this.

[maroonmania]

Good point. I'd feel much better if we whip their asses tomorrow, but I worry about our walk parade pitching staff.

I do not like waiting until Sunday every weekend before even seeing Self and Price, yet losing a game. I feel like we're handcuffing an already cuffed staff. That being said, I don't really have a solution.

We better see them early and often today. In the end, for yesterday, given our lack of offense the game was over once McQuary gave up the 3 runs but we didn't know that at the time.

[CadaverDawg]

Yes you can, when doing so removes our best chance to win the game. I guarantee you UGA's coach was relieved when Mangum took 2nd because it removed a difficult decision. If the freshman is forced to pitch to Rooker there, our chance to win goes up. If a play reduces our chance to win, it is a bad play.

I get that it isn't usual and it's not easy to coach or prepare for. I'm not saying that staying at 1B is the obvious play and that Mangum is dumb for having gone. I get why he did it, and 99% of the time that is the right play. It just requires someone to be hyper aware. As soon as it got past the 1B, my immediate thought was, oh crap, don't take 2nd Mangum.

You do realize even if Jake stays at 1st, they likely walk Rooker right? Either way they're walking him to load the bases. They weren't letting him beat them regardless, so either way we needed Gridley and Brown to deliver...Rooker wasn't going to get a chance to tie it with 1 swing. So I disagree, you never tell Mangum to stay in that situation....now stealing 2nd withRooker up throughout the game is what drives me nuts.

[maroonmania]

I just don't see how anyone can blame Macnamee on that. It's a weird play that you aren't expecting the guy ahead of you to just sit on first. It was a little league mistake but Brown has to be like 75% of the way to second there. That's a ball that even Lovelady could have gotten to third on as the runner on first. You should also assume on that play that that kid isn't going to make the catch and in no way in hell was he going to.

Yes Brown should have gone halfway and yes, we should have had men on 2nd and 3rd with no outs. But it was still primarily Mac's fault on that one. As a baserunner you ALWAYS have to know where the baserunner in front of you is at. IMO, its sort of comparable to a car accident where you rear end someone. The fact that the car in front of you unexpectedly slammed on his brakes doesn't mean it still isn't your fault.

[basedog]

We better see them early and often today. In the end, for yesterday, given our lack of offense the game was over once McQuary gave up the 3 runs but we didn't know that at the time.

New day, new game, gotta love our chances today! So you sh*tbirds that are down and distraught get your head out of your ass and pump some sunshine on today's game*******

P.S. Like good coaches and players, yesterday is long gone! As Bob Tyler once coined "Let's Win Today"......something like that, LOL!

[CadaverDawg]

We better see them early and often today. In the end, for yesterday, given our lack of offense the game was over once McQuary gave up the 3 runs but we didn't know that at the time.

Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about too....our coaches have become "okay" with letting guys like McQ or Plumlee work through jams even if it creates a 3-4 run hole, when we have two guys that could end a threat sitting on their hands waiting on their 12 pitches each on Sunday. Seems like poor use of those 2 to me. Let one of them come in when McQ gets in trouble, get out of it, pitch a few innings, then carry on with the usual guys and you still have the other stud to close it...and we're likely still within striking distance

[I seen it dawg]

Yes you can, when doing so removes our best chance to win the game. I guarantee you UGA's coach was relieved when Mangum took 2nd because it removed a difficult decision. If the freshman is forced to pitch to Rooker there, our chance to win goes up. If a play reduces our chance to win, it is a bad play.

I get that it isn't usual and it's not easy to coach or prepare for. I'm not saying that staying at 1B is the obvious play and that Mangum is dumb for having gone. I get why he did it, and 99% of the time that is the right play. It just requires someone to be hyper aware. As soon as it got past the 1B, my immediate thought was, oh crap, don't take 2nd Mangum.

No

[smootness]

You do realize even if Jake stays at 1st, they likely walk Rooker right? Either way they're walking him to load the bases. They weren't letting him beat them regardless, so either way we needed Gridley and Brown to deliver...Rooker wasn't going to get a chance to tie it with 1 swing. So I disagree, you never tell Mangum to stay in that situation....now stealing 2nd withRooker up throughout the game is what drives me nuts.

They may, but you still have to force them to make that decision. They are definitely less likely to walk him if 1B isn't open.

I agree on stealing 2nd and view this the same way, with the understanding that it is more difficult for a player to stop than it is to just not steal.

[lamont]

No

We had the bases loaded with no outs- with 3, 4, and 5 coming up. Thats all you can ask for. We didnt get it done. Today is a new day

[smootness]

No

Cool

[CadaverDawg]

We had the bases loaded with no outs- with 3, 4, and 5 coming up. Thats all you can ask for. We didnt get it done. Today is a new day

1 out, but your point stands. I agree

[lamont]

1 out, but your point stands. I agree

No- it was no outs

Gridley flew out to LF
Brown flied out to CF
Macnamee K'ed

[CadaverDawg]

No- it was no outs

Gridley flew out to LF
Brown flied out to CF
Macnamee K'ed

I thought Stovall led off the inning with a fly out....but that was a diff inning. I stand corrected.