PDA

View Full Version : Hey MSSTATE 7 and other Braves fans



parabrave
04-24-2017, 05:31 PM
Brave nation is almost in total meltdown. They are finally waking up that this team is almost 1989 bad. MS7, like I said at the end of SP when they kept Peterson, D'nard and Bonifacio as the bench we were in Big Trouble. Someone earlier had posted that we have no bench. We do have a bench. It is currently playing 3rd CF, catcher and LF when Kemp is on the DL which is gonna be a common occurrence this year.. Hope that Howard can play 3rd. If things keep on going the way it has been look for Ron Washington to be the next interm manager. I wondered why they got him.

EngDawg
04-24-2017, 05:33 PM
This is a very bad team.

Thankfully the things look good down on the farm.****

parabrave
04-24-2017, 05:40 PM
Number one Swanson should have never been put in the 2 slot. I hope he can recover from that, Alvies must need more seasoning otherwise they would have never signed old man phillips. Now we have old man Kemp and about to get old man Howard. I wish we could get old man Julio Franco as our utility player. Heck I bet h can still jack it.

msstate7
04-24-2017, 06:10 PM
Concerns:
1. Swanson not hitting
2. Wisler and Blair looking more like busts
3. Fried isn't looking good

I'm happy:
1. Folty is looking like he could actually become a TOR pitcher
2. Albies is playing well
3. Sims, Weigel, soroka, withrow, and allard all looking strong in our upper minors.


Wait and see:
1. Newcomb not coming out strong
2. Phillips, colon, Garcia (pitcher), and dickey look good and could be nice trade bait
3. Inciarte struggling right now, but early

BoomBoom
04-24-2017, 06:40 PM
Brave nation is almost in total meltdown. They are finally waking up that this team is almost 1989 bad. MS7, like I said at the end of SP when they kept Peterson, D'nard and Bonifacio as the bench we were in Big Trouble. Someone earlier had posted that we have no bench. We do have a bench. It is currently playing 3rd CF, catcher and LF when Kemp is on the DL which is gonna be a common occurrence this year.. Hope that Howard can play 3rd. If things keep on going the way it has been look for Ron Washington to be the next interm manager. I wondered why they got him.

small sample size and such. WAY too early to draw many conclusions. position by position long-term analysis:

1B: Fredi. he's a beast, and locked up.
2B: Albies. Looks like he'll be an All-Star, AND can back up SS (key for constructing a bench).
SS: Swanson. he'll be fine. he has been hitting line drives right at people, the advanced stats back that up.
3B: complete unknown. maybe Riley, maybe Maitain in about 4 years.
CF: Inciarte. i hope his bat comes around, but even if he doesn't he's a better than average CF.
LF: unknown. probably Dustin Peterson at some point next year. he's rehabbing an injury now or he'd be starting in AAA.
RF: unknown. probable FA. maybe Acuna in a couple years.
C: unknown. Alex Jackson looks like a huge steal from Sea right now. if he can't handle catching, his bat will still play in the outfield.

SP: Sims and Newcomb will be up by this time next year. Blair and Wisler will be given a chance, if they can turn things around a little in AAA then they'll probably get a shot the 2nd half of this year. Teheran and Folty, locked up for years. Fried will be rushed, as he's already on the 40 man. Soroka, Gohera, and Allard by late next year, maybe 2019. 3 or 4 of the draftees from last year look awesome, but that will be a few years away. PLENTY of trade pieces. there's so many i'm sure a forgot several.

RP: pieces out the ying yang. AJ Minter is the next Kimbrel if he's healthy. no worries here.

conclusion: calm your tits. 2018 is the year to start competing. this year they took a flier out on competing, but it was likely that it wouldn't work out and they would sell at mid-year.

msstate7
04-24-2017, 06:44 PM
small sample size and such. WAY too early to draw many conclusions. position by position long-term analysis:

1B: Fredi. he's a beast, and locked up.
2B: Albies. Looks like he'll be an All-Star, AND can back up SS (key for constructing a bench).
SS: Swanson. he'll be fine. he has been hitting line drives right at people, the advanced stats back that up.
3B: complete unknown. maybe Riley, maybe Maitain in about 4 years.
CF: Inciarte. i hope his bat comes around, but even if he doesn't he's a better than average CF.
LF: unknown. probably Dustin Peterson at some point next year. he's rehabbing an injury now or he'd be starting in AAA.
RF: unknown. probable FA. maybe Acuna in a couple years.
C: unknown. Alex Jackson looks like a huge steal from Sea right now. if he can't handle catching, his bat will still play in the outfield.

SP: Sims and Newcomb will be up by this time next year. Blair and Wisler will be given a chance, if they can turn things around a little in AAA then they'll probably get a shot the 2nd half of this year. Teheran and Folty, locked up for years. Fried will be rushed, as he's already on the 40 man. Soroka, Gohera, and Allard by late next year, maybe 2019. 3 or 4 of the draftees from last year look awesome, but that will be a few years away. PLENTY of trade pieces. there's so many i'm sure a forgot several.

RP: pieces out the ying yang. AJ Minter is the next Kimbrel if he's healthy. no worries here.

conclusion: calm your tits. 2018 is the year to start competing. this year they took a flier out on competing, but it was likely that it wouldn't work out and they would sell at mid-year.

Good post, boom.

Love Jackson right now. What's Dustin Peterson timetable on a return?

huffy
04-25-2017, 06:53 AM
I borrowed this from the Braves Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/Braves/comments/6795xo/how_the_pitching_prospects_in_our_top_30_have/):

https://i.redd.it/pp5nj98xaity.png

smootness
04-25-2017, 07:46 AM
The only thing I question on that chart is Weigel not having really good stuff. Dude throws near 100 with good breaking balls. Only question on him is command and walks. So far, so really good.

Tbonewannabe
04-25-2017, 08:57 AM
Didn't Touki Toussaint start out really good last year? Hopefully we get some bats to go with all this pitching. Tehran and Folty are the beginnings of a great rotation over the next few years. Freddie has locked down 1st and Swanson looks the part at SS if he can get balls to find some holes. Philips is good enough bridge to get to Albies. The outfield is decent if healthy. I like Ender in CF with Kemp and Markakis in the corners if healthy. The problem is Kemp doesn't stay healthy very long. The starters aren't bad but the bench is pretty much straight garbage.

smootness
04-25-2017, 09:32 AM
Didn't Touki Toussaint start out really good last year? Hopefully we get some bats to go with all this pitching. Tehran and Folty are the beginnings of a great rotation over the next few years. Freddie has locked down 1st and Swanson looks the part at SS if he can get balls to find some holes. Philips is good enough bridge to get to Albies. The outfield is decent if healthy. I like Ender in CF with Kemp and Markakis in the corners if healthy. The problem is Kemp doesn't stay healthy very long. The starters aren't bad but the bench is pretty much straight garbage.

No, Touki started off horribly last year and then really picked it up as the year went along.

The bats are coming. Acuna, Jackson, Riley, Pache, Cruz, Maitan, Severino, Gutierrez all with a ton of potential in A+ or lower.

Albies will be here soon, Peterson has potential and will start playing probably in Gwinnett soon, and then Demeritte is showing out in AA so far.

We've got bats.

MetEdDawg
04-25-2017, 09:40 AM
How the hell does Sims have a .72 WHIP and a 2.70 ERA? That's really hard to do. Not sure I've ever seen an ERA/WHIP split like that. Glad to see he's started off well.

msstate7
04-25-2017, 09:56 AM
No, Touki started off horribly last year and then really picked it up as the year went along.

The bats are coming. Acuna, Jackson, Riley, Pache, Cruz, Maitan, Severino, Gutierrez all with a ton of potential in A+ or lower.

Albies will be here soon, Peterson has potential and will start playing probably in Gwinnett soon, and then Demeritte is showing out in AA so far.

We've got bats.

Agree with it all except demeritte showing out at AA. He's .220/.313/.373. Have you been watching boni too long to give you the idea .686 ops is showing out? Haha His k rate is down though

smootness
04-25-2017, 10:01 AM
Agree with it all except demeritte showing out at AA. He's .220/.313/.373. Have you been watching boni too long to give you the idea .686 ops is showing out? Haha His k rate is down though

Yeah, I hadn't looked in a few days. He's gone extremely cold over the last 6-8 games, dropped his OPS from .900. The last two alone dropped it about 120 points.

Wait and see, I guess. I'm extremely encouraged by the improved K rate. The hitting and power will come back up soon.

msstate7
04-25-2017, 10:19 AM
Yeah, I hadn't looked in a few days. He's gone extremely cold over the last 6-8 games, dropped his OPS from .900. The last two alone dropped it about 120 points.

Wait and see, I guess. I'm extremely encouraged by the improved K rate. The hitting and power will come back up soon.
Trustmark isn't a power hitter's friend either

Tbonewannabe
04-25-2017, 10:34 AM
No, Touki started off horribly last year and then really picked it up as the year went along.

The bats are coming. Acuna, Jackson, Riley, Pache, Cruz, Maitan, Severino, Gutierrez all with a ton of potential in A+ or lower.

Albies will be here soon, Peterson has potential and will start playing probably in Gwinnett soon, and then Demeritte is showing out in AA so far.

We've got bats.

Is it worth my time to go to Gwinnett and catch a game? I live in Alpharetta so is it worth the drive over?

Beaver
04-25-2017, 12:38 PM
Concerns:
3. Fried isn't looking good


I went and saw him last week in Pearl. He's got the stuff. He just has to improve his command and quit walking people.

smootness
04-25-2017, 12:40 PM
Is it worth my time to go to Gwinnett and catch a game? I live in Alpharetta so is it worth the drive over?

Depends. It's a pretty fun time, just depends on whether or not you care about the guys in Gwinnett. Personally, I think it's worth it just to see Albies.

It's worth your time to get to Rome when Anderson is pitching.

msstate7
04-25-2017, 01:47 PM
I went and saw him last week in Pearl. He's got the stuff. He just has to improve his command and quit walking people.

Today...
7.0 ip 1 h 0 er 1 bb 6 k

Very nice start

BiscuitEater
04-25-2017, 05:28 PM
Brave nation is almost in total meltdown.

Braves are the Worst team in baseball. Have they been 'mathematically' eliminated yet?

parabrave
04-25-2017, 10:42 PM
Does anyone here watch the Generals. Just got finished watching them take two from Biloxi and them boys can hit. They have a very aggressive philosophy at the plate and on the basepath. Very entertaining.