What is our QB situation?

[Jack Lambert]

Just curious.

[CadaverDawg]

Starter - Fitz
Backup - Key

[msstate7]

Starter - Fitz
Backup - Key

3rd string - martinas Rankin

[CadaverDawg]

3rd string - martinas Rankin

Lol

[lamont]

Very good starter- very talented but extremely green back-up for the next 2 years

[BeardoMSU]

Are we really not going to RS Key?

[lamont]

Not a chance

[Bass Chaser]

3rd string - martinas Rankin

He's going to snap it to himself.

[Jack Lambert]

Starter - Fitz
Backup - Key

Any walk on's or is Mullen trying to get a transfer?

[Johnson85]

Not a chance

That just seems crazy to not even try. We'll be in trouble if Fitz goes down regardless. If we can redshirt KT, then we can bring him in much more often next year when we can really groom him to take over as a RS sophomore.

So is there any chance the rule on RS will change this year to allow him to play in some games? Or has the time for that passed?

[Jarius]

Any walk on's or is Mullen trying to get a transfer?

Cody Blosser from California is walking on. He had some G5 offers, so it's a good walkon pickup.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Key could play in 4 games & still count as a RS year so it's not out of the question but he's being prepared to play. We're looking at lining up another 4* in this class also so we don't have to treat him like gold. If he plays this year he'd still have 2yrs of being the man when Fitz leaves.

[CadaverDawg]

Are we really not going to RS Key?

Nope. No other options

[msstate7]

Key could play in 4 games & still count as a RS year so it's not out of the question but he's being prepared to play. We're looking at lining up another 4* in this class also so we don't have to treat him like gold. If he plays this year he'd still have 2yrs of being the man when Fitz leaves.

Can it be any 4 games?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Can it be any 4 games?

Yes

[BeardoMSU]

Yes

Interesting. Is playing time limited in those 4 games?

[dawgday166]

3rd string - martinas Rankin

Good one.

[msstate7]

Yes

It'll be interesting to see if we pick and choose where to use those 4 games or just throw him out there first chance we get

[smootness]

Thompson, if he's as good as he seems to be, won't be here for 5 years. So the debate over redshirting him likely doesn't matter. And selfishly, I wanna see him play.

[HSVDawg]

Key could play in 4 games & still count as a RS year so it's not out of the question but he's being prepared to play. We're looking at lining up another 4* in this class also so we don't have to treat him like gold. If he plays this year he'd still have 2yrs of being the man when Fitz leaves.

Who is the other 4* and why hasn't he signed anywhere yet?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Who is the other 4* and why hasn't he signed anywhere yet?

I'm talking about the 2018 class.

[HSVDawg]

Thompson, if he's as good as he seems to be, won't be here for 5 years. So the debate over redshirting him likely doesn't matter. And selfishly, I wanna see him play.

Well, Dak was here 5 years. Eli was at OM for 5 years. Same with Peyton at UT also (I think). Just because he's highly regarded and has a lot of hype around him doesn't mean he will leave early. QB's are a little bit different than every other position in that regard, although some certainly still do leave early.

[BeardoMSU]

Well, Dak was here 5 years. Eli was at OM for 5 years. Same with Peyton at UT also (I think). Just because he's highly regarded and has a lot of hype around him doesn't mean he will leave early. QB's are a little bit different than every other position in that regard, although some certainly still do leave early.

Was going to say essentially the same thing.

[HSVDawg]

I'm talking about the 2018 class.

Oh I see. I still don't think that impacts how we treat Key for 2017 though. He can't sign until December at the earliest which is after the regular season. We'd be extremely foolish to manage our QB situation in 2017 based on a guy is not guaranteed to be here, even if he is the most solid commitment in the world.

[Johnson85]

Thompson, if he's as good as he seems to be, won't be here for 5 years. So the debate over redshirting him likely doesn't matter. And selfishly, I wanna see him play.

Wayyyy to speculative to burn a RS thinking a true freshman will be that good. It's highly likely we won't be able to avoid playing him, as even Fitz just going out for a few plays in a close game means we need to put our next best option in. But if the walk-on can take a snap without fumbling, barring injury to Fitz, there's a pretty good chance we can preserve KT's redshirt if the new rule allows him to play in 3 games.

[lamont]

Payton didn't redshirt- he began starting his true freshman year

[Johnson85]

Key could play in 4 games & still count as a RS year so it's not out of the question but he's being prepared to play. We're looking at lining up another 4* in this class also so we don't have to treat him like gold. If he plays this year he'd still have 2yrs of being the man when Fitz leaves.

Is it four games? I though it was no more than 25% of the games, which would be no more than 3?

[DancingRabbit]

Well, Dak was here 5 years. Eli was at OM for 5 years. Same with Peyton at UT also (I think). Just because he's highly regarded and has a lot of hype around him doesn't mean he will leave early. QB's are a little bit different than every other position in that regard, although some certainly still do leave early.

Dan would probably give him the "theoretical Dak offer". Come back for your senior year and I'll adjust the offense to showcase your NFL potential and get you ready. But it's a moot point. We're going to have to play him this year. In our offense the QB is going to get nicked up. Gotta have 2 ready to play.

Your Peyton and Eli examples are a little old. Seems to me that all positions are a little more likely to leave early today than in 2004.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Oh I see. I still don't think that impacts how we treat Key for 2017 though. He can't sign until December at the earliest which is after the regular season. We'd be extremely foolish to manage our QB situation in 2017 based on a guy is not guaranteed to be here, even if he is the most solid commitment in the world.

Wasn't trying to imply that. My point was that we seem to be trending up on our level of QB's that we are getting. If so then you don't have to treat them like gold & try to protect them & make sure they're here for 5yrs. If you're recruiting guys that are Keytaon level every year then playing him this year isn't as big a deal.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Is it four games? I though it was no more than 25% of the games, which would be no more than 3?

http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/new-redshirt-proposal-would-allow-athletes-to-play-four-games-regardless-of-injury/amp/

[DancingRabbit]

Key could play in 4 games & still count as a RS year so it's not out of the question but he's being prepared to play. We're looking at lining up another 4* in this class also so we don't have to treat him like gold. If he plays this year he'd still have 2yrs of being the man when Fitz leaves.

When is the final vote on this? Sometime next month? Is the 10th coach expected to pass now, or pushed back to 2018?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

When is the final vote on this? Sometime next month? Is the 10th coach expected to pass now, or pushed back to 2018?

Yes next month. The 10th coach is expected to pass next month but it wouldn't go into effect until after bowl season. Didn't want a ton of coaches moving around this time of year. It's more natural after the bowl season.

[spiral]

Payton didn't redshirt- he began starting his true freshman year

Yep. He came in at MSU after Helton got injured and started ever since. I remember watching that and he lit us up pretty good but that was one rare occasion where every bad bounce of the ball and turnover went our way. He lost to MSU that day but TN ended up being quite good that year.

[Political Hack]

There's very little chance KT is in Starkville for 5 years under Mullen. He'll be ready in 3-4. He's that good

[blacklistedbully]

Cody Blosser from California is walking on. He had some G5 offers, so it's a good walkon pickup.

Robbie Blosser

[Jack Lambert]

Robbie Blosser

I assume this is him. http://247sports.com/Player/Robbie-Blosser-77150

[KentuckyDawg13]

Logan Burnett is taking snaps too.

[HSVDawg]

Wasn't trying to imply that. My point was that we seem to be trending up on our level of QB's that we are getting. If so then you don't have to treat them like gold & try to protect them & make sure they're here for 5yrs. If you're recruiting guys that are Keytaon level every year then playing him this year isn't as big a deal.

I gotcha.

I would think the best way to manage Key is to get him into action early for one game (preferably Charleston Southern or someone like that....where he can just go out there with a lead and get used to live snaps). From that point forward, he goes on the shelf unless we need him. If it's a game against BYU and we're up 21 in the 3rd and Fitz'a helmet comes off, put the walk on in to hand off for one play. If it's Auburn and Fitz gets banged up for a series, it's gotta be Key. Hopefully, you don't have to throw him out there more than 3 more times after that first game, and we can keep the RS on him. But if not we just have to deal with it.

[TrapGame]

3rd string - martinas Rankin

(snickers)