Arkansas Game 3 Thread

[CadaverDawg]

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[CadaverDawg]

Mangum on the hill

[CadaverDawg]

Rooker in the 3 hole.

[raymond21]

Stovall out for a few weeks

[msstate7]

Mangum to start? I wonder how long we plan to let him go. He hadn't pitched at all until last Sunday and now this is his 3rd appearance in a week. With our TJ outbreak, I'm really nervous about this

[I seen it dawg]

Damn I hate losing Stovall. Kid needs this yr to develop more.

[msstate7]

Damn I hate losing Stovall. Kid needs this yr to develop more.
I love Stovall. Good hitter and plus defender... he just really struggles to stay healthy

[CadaverDawg]

I like Bragg and would like to see him get more ab's to get experience. Gordon not so much....he seems to just be a hacker with no plan at the plate. It's just close your eyes and swing as hard as you can, it seems like.

[Steakonastick]

Glad we finally put Gridley in the 2hole. Lets let Bragg play third for a few games and see what he can do it. It's pointless to have brown playing second in my opinion. If it's that bad pull the redshirt off smith and get him ready for next year.

[msstate7]

Glad we finally put Gridley in the 2hole. Lets let Bragg play third for a few games and see what he can do it. It's pointless to have brown playing second in my opinion. If it's that bad pull the redshirt off smith and get him ready for next year.

Isn't smith a big time talent? If so, I hate the idea of RSing him

[CadaverDawg]

What is Arkansas pitching today?

[msstate7]

What is Arkansas pitching today?

A double digit strike out guy

[lamont]

Gross

[state66]

Anybody else against starting mangum against an SEC opponent? I just don't like it.

[CadaverDawg]

A double digit strike out guy

Ha, why bc he's facing us?

Just wait til at bat's 101-200....gonna be lit

[CadaverDawg]

Anybody else against starting mangum against an SEC opponent? I just don't like it.

I don't like it. I'd rather start Ashcraft or Cyr and then bring him in if needed

At some point you have to just let these guys sink or swim to make them better. Mangum is never going to be a regular rotation guy...so let a Cyr or Ashcraft or somebody sink or swim

[TNDawg35]

Glad we finally put Gridley in the 2hole. Lets let Bragg play third for a few games and see what he can do it. It's pointless to have brown playing second in my opinion. If it's that bad pull the redshirt off smith and get him ready for next year.

^^^THIS....

[CadaverDawg]

And this will shock you...Mangum K's to lead things off

[CadaverDawg]

Gridley K's

I'm not making this up

[CadaverDawg]

Rooker singles

[msstate7]

Mangum struck out 20 times last year. That was his 11th this year

[msstate7]

Gridley struck out 21 times last year. That was his 10th this season

[CadaverDawg]

Rooker picked off

Ugh

[hailstate17]

To be fair to Mangum, you knew he would strike out more this year. It's so tough to do that two heads in a row. I'm really surprised he's still hitting close to .400. I figured he would hit about .330 or so this year because .400 is almost impossible to repeat.

[CadaverDawg]

Leadoff walk for Ark

[CadaverDawg]

Wild pitch

[msstate7]

To be fair to Mangum, you knew he would strike out more this year. It's so tough to do that two heads in a row. I'm really surprised he's still hitting close to .400. I figured he would hit about .330 or so this year because .400 is almost impossible to repeat.
I agree about the average... his BABIP was .449 last season. So far, he's sustained that at .451. I don't think Ks should be up with slugging and ISO down though

[CadaverDawg]

Grounder to P, 1 out runner on3rd

[CadaverDawg]

Nice play by Mangum gets the guy going home on a grounder to the mound

[msstate7]

Nice play by Mangum gets the guy going home on a grounder to the mound

Big play

[CadaverDawg]

Groundout to SS and Mangum avoids trouble. 0-0

[CadaverDawg]

Michigan just beat Louisville in the NCAA Tournament

[CadaverDawg]

Macnamee rips a single to left to lead off the 2nd

[CadaverDawg]

FC by Gordon. Mac out at 2nd

[CadaverDawg]

Single for Alexander.

2 on 1 out

[msstate7]

Michigan just beat Louisville in the NCAA Tournament

And my bracket is toast. Between watching state play basketball the last 5 years and my bracket this year, I'm starting to hate college basketball

[msstate7]

Come on bragg

[CadaverDawg]

Bragg grounds into a DP.

[CadaverDawg]

And my bracket is toast. Between watching state play basketball the last 5 years and my bracket this year, I'm starting to hate college basketball

Ha I'm with you

[msstate7]

When we don't k, we hit into DP

[state66]

I just keep waiting on bragg to earn a spot in the regular order but he hasnt done shit since that one game at Oregon. His bat is much needed but I am not sure hell ever come around at this point.

[GTHOM]

I thought Cannizaro was supposed to be a good hitting coach, hell we were better when we Cohen balled

[msstate7]

I just keep waiting on bragg to earn a spot in the regular order but he hasnt done shit since that one game at Oregon. His bat is much needed but I am not sure hell ever come around at this point.

To be fair, that was his 10th AB this year

[hailstate17]

Give him time guys. Cohen left him very little to work with

[msstate7]

I thought Cannizaro was supposed to be a good hitting coach, hell we were better when we Cohen balled

Too early to judge him imo, but the increase in Ks among returning players is concerning to me

[msstate7]

Mangum getting outs. I do wonder if he'd be more valuable as a lefty out of the pen

[GTHOM]

Too early to judge him imo, but the increase in Ks among returning players is concerning to me

Not saying hes not gonna be good but its painfully obvious to me that we were not ready to replace Kruger, Lowe, Collins, Hump, etc. We have 4 SEC hitters right now in my opinion. Alexander is hit and miss. Stovall is hurt. The rest are young or just cant hit

[msstate7]

Watching our play at catcher makes me miss marrero

[msstate7]

Atta boy, Poole. Hope that gets him going

[hailstate17]

I'm not concerned with Gridleys increase in Ks. I'll take an increase in Ks if it means you hit more jacks, doubles, and hit .100 points higher

[Ari Gold]

Watching our play at catcher makes me miss marrero

That guy was a locker room cancer we are better off with his ass back in So Fla.

[CadaverDawg]

Gridley is taking too many fastballs right down the pipe today

[msstate7]

That guy was a locker room cancer we are better off with his ass back in So Fla.

Yeah, he's certainly not good enough to put up with that. If smith is as good as advertised, I'd like to play him now and maybe put Stovall at catcher when he returns

[CadaverDawg]

Dam is about to break in this one

[msstate7]

Dam is about to break in this one

Just hold em under 10... our bats can handle that**

[ScoobaDawg]

Am I going crazy or did a rule change sometime? I thought if a player is put in the batting lineup as a pitcher you lost the DH.
So Mangum is staying in as DH?

[CadaverDawg]

Barlow, why you going to throw an 0-2 pitch over the plate? Good grief

[hailstate17]

And that's why Bragg isn't playing much. Terrible should've been out of the inning

[ScoobaDawg]

2-0 on a wild pitch... Ark

[CadaverDawg]

Ballgame.

[MarketingBully]

Does this team do anything well?

[ScoobaDawg]

base hit 3-0 hogs but get an out to end the 3rd.

[MarketingBully]

Should have just been 1-0 on a double play ball that was screwed up. Gifted them two runs right there.

[maroonmania]

Does this team do anything well?

Well we strikeout well and we gift walks to the opposing team well. So there's that.

[TNDawg35]

Welp, back to Chicago Justice/Chicago PD marathon...

[MarketingBully]

We are letting a shitty pitcher strike us out. His fastball tops out at 90 if that. He is not good and they were hoping to only get four innings from him but expecting only three. How did we get THIS bad from last year?

[lamont]

I thought Cannizaro was supposed to be a good hitting coach, hell we were better when we Cohen balled

Cann didnt get Fall Ball with these guys- Cohen did

[MarketingBully]

Cann didnt get Fall Ball with these guys- Cohen did

Cann won the press conference and it looks like he will be good but since this is first ever job there will be a lot of growing pains with him. Tulane didn't even take a chance with him when they had their opening. I hope Cohen's gamble works long term but this year IMO we will be lucky to make the tournament IMO.

[ScoobaDawg]

4-0 Ark after 4

[ScoobaDawg]

Bragg on with a leadoff single... hell it's a hit...

[msstate7]

Announcers are clowns judging arkansas pitching depth to compete in sec bc of 2.4 games vs us. We're gonna pad pitching stats all year

[ScoobaDawg]

Bragg advances to 2nd on sac bunt. maybe we can get that goose egg off..

[msstate7]

4-0... bunt runner to 2nd. Great call, coach

[MarketingBully]

Announcers are clowns judging arkansas pitching depth to compete in sec bc of 2.4 games vs us. We're gonna pad pitching stats all year

It sucks but you're right. That starter that Arkansas is throwing today is trash.

[msstate7]

Everyone here used to melt big time when cohen would bunt in a 0-0 game early, but not a peep when we bunt 1 runner to 2nd down 4 in the 5th

[ScoobaDawg]

grpund out to 3b and then magnum pops out to the mound. big fat sh!t burger

[maroonmania]

Were we sac bunting down 4 runs?

[CadaverDawg]

Everyone here used to melt big time when cohen would bunt in a 0-0 game early, but not a peep when we bunt 1 runner to 2nd down 4 in the 5th

Bc nobody is watching

[The Federalist Engineer]

We will be better this season and much better in seasons to come, but this feels like the wheels are coming off. We can't get out of Fayetteville fast enough

[msstate7]

Bc nobody is watching

Cann is a complete moron. That was as dumb as anything ray or croom ever did

[maroonmania]

Everyone here used to melt big time when cohen would bunt in a 0-0 game early, but not a peep when we bunt 1 runner to 2nd down 4 in the 5th

Guess its in the noise with all the problems we have currently have with this team.

[MarketingBully]

Everyone here used to melt big time when cohen would bunt in a 0-0 game early, but not a peep when we bunt 1 runner to 2nd down 4 in the 5th

It's the apathy setting in. You saw it in basketball too a couple of years back. This keeps up and these threads will be 3 pages tops.

[CadaverDawg]

Where is Todd? Why isn't he here telling us all how good our offense is and how it's no different than any other SEC team against SEC pitching? I need to hear again how we're just facing another great pitcher having another great day.**

****ing garbage

[CadaverDawg]

It's the apathy setting in. You saw it in basketball too a couple of years back. This keeps up and these threads will be 3 pages tops.

Yup

[CadaverDawg]

Cann is a complete moron. That was as dumb as anything ray or croom ever did

I wouldn't go that far. He probably just knew the bottom has sucked, so use them to advance a guy and try to get a positive run on the board, to see if it could get us going. Looks dumb now, but it may not have been as bad as it looked

[msstate7]

I wouldn't go that far. He probably just knew the bottom has sucked, so use them to advance a guy and try to get a positive run on the board, to see if it could get us going. Looks dumb now, but it may not have been as bad as it looked

No, it was dumb. We can't score runs with 27 outs and we gave up 1 down 4 with only 15 outs left

[msstate7]

"State can come back and score runs in a hurry...", announcers.

I found Todd for you, CD

[maroonmania]

It's the apathy setting in. You saw it in basketball too a couple of years back. This keeps up and these threads will be 3 pages tops.

Plus the WBB NCAA game is going on right now. A lot of folks with rather keep up with that instead of this baseball team at the moment.

[CadaverDawg]

"State can come back and score runs in a hurry...", announcers.

I found Todd for you, CD

Lol

[The Federalist Engineer]

Dominic Taccolini in the game, Arkansas' resident headcase/pity-case upperclassman- I hope we can light him up

[CadaverDawg]

No, it was dumb. We can't score runs with 27 outs and we gave up 1 down 4 with only 15 outs left

I agree it was dumb...but he clearly just wanted to get a run on the board to see if it would get us going. At this point, he's probably trying to do the opposite of normal bc nothing is working ha

[msstate7]

Atta boy, rooker. Damn their SS

[ScoobaDawg]

homerun Rooker. 4-1 in the top 6

[I seen it dawg]

Cann won the press conference and it looks like he will be good but since this is first ever job there will be a lot of growing pains with him. Tulane didn't even take a chance with him when they had their opening. I hope Cohen's gamble works long term but this year IMO we will be lucky to make the tournament IMO.

None of this shit is on Cann

[Maroon Wizardry]

from just watching the live stream stats it looks like we can't string hits together to score runs... seems like this is the case with a lot of games... is this true? or are we just sucking i haven't been able to catch a game

[I seen it dawg]

Everyone here used to melt big time when cohen would bunt in a 0-0 game early, but not a peep when we bunt 1 runner to 2nd down 4 in the 5th


You're melting enough for all of us

[CadaverDawg]

from just watching the live stream stats it looks like we can't string runs together... seems like this is the case with a lot of games... is this true? or are we just sucking i haven't been able to catch a game

Offensively we're bad

[I seen it dawg]

Damn growing is painful.

[MarketingBully]

None of this shit is on Cann

You're right. He is only the head coach...

[ScoobaDawg]

5-1 ark now in the 7th

[msstate7]

'15 > '17

[I seen it dawg]

You're right. He is only the head coach...

I know I'm right.

[Activated Alpha]

Expect a lot more sweeps guys. I haven't watched it, but what number are we on with our strikeouts?

[lamont]

You're right. He is only the head coach...

Who recruited none of these players

[msstate7]

I know I'm right.

Yeah, how could anyone question your complete ripping of a guy that won the sec at 2 different schools and took us to the championship series all the while anointing Cann as an absolute lock to be the best ever before he wins an sec game?

[lamont]

Yeah, how could anyone question your complete ripping of a guy that won the sec at 2 different schools and took us to the championship series all the while anointing Cann as an absolute lock to be the best ever before he wins an sec game?

who also had 3 losing seasons in 8 years- and it would have been 4 in 9 had he stuck around to coach this team

[msstate7]

Who recruited none of these players

I notice you gave Cann a pass bunting down 4 in the 5th after ripping cohen for bunting early in 0-0 games

[lamont]

I notice you gave Cann a pass bunting down 4 in the 5th after ripping cohen for bunting early in 0-0 games

It wasnt in the 1st ****ing inning was it????

[msstate7]

It wasnt in the 1st ****ing inning was it????

No, it was the 5th and we bunted a guy on 1st to 2nd down 4. I've watched a lot of baseball and never seen that before. #revolutionary

[CadaverDawg]

It wasnt in the 1st ****ing inning was it????

That woulda made more sense actually...bc it would have been 0-0. Ha

[lamont]

No, it was the 5th and we bunted a guy on 1st to 2nd down 4. I've watched a lot of baseball and never seen that before. #revolutionary

Im ok with the bunt.

You have a team that cant score and needs some type of spark. We have only scored 6 runs in 24 innings. Doesnt hurt to try something there. Nothing is more moronic than sac bunting in inning 1. Gordon could go to the plate and swing the bat with the barrel and try to hit the ball with the handle- and it wouldnt be as dumb as sac bunting in the 1st inning

[msstate7]

Im ok with the bunt.

You have a team that cant score and needs some type of spark. We have only scored 6 runs in 24 innings. Doesnt hurt to try something there. Nothing is more moronic than sac bunting in inning 1. Gordon could go to the plate and swing the bat with the barrel and try to hit the ball with the handle- and it wouldnt be as dumb as sac bunting in the 1st inning

You've lost it.

If Cann has that little faith in the batter there, PH Cody brown.

[CadaverDawg]

Im ok with the bunt.

You have a team that cant score and needs some type of spark. We have only scored 6 runs in 24 innings. Doesnt hurt to try something there. Nothing is more moronic than sac bunting in inning 1. Gordon could go to the plate and swing the bat with the barrel and try to hit the ball with the handle- and it wouldnt be as dumb as sac bunting in the 1st inning

That's crazy. Bunting to try and get an early lead when you have a shitty offense is not at all dumber than the scenario you just said. But I'll let you & 7 duke this one out

[Activated Alpha]

What is the strikeout number to now?

[msstate7]

That's crazy. Bunting to try and get an early lead when you have a shitty offense is not at all dumber than the scenario you just said. But I'll let you & 7 duke this one out

Random and I haven't agreed on anything in a year haha

[lamont]

That's crazy. Bunting to try and get an early lead when you have a shitty offense is not at all dumber than the scenario you just said. But I'll let you & 7 duke this one out

Skelton cant hit. Not a lick. Neither can Lovelady. Neither one is hitting .200 and isnt. Bunt the guy over and hope Poole or Magnum can drive them in. Why burn a catcher with a PH to bring in another that cant hit? Marrero is gone and Stovall is hurt. You dont have a 3rd catcher. If you burn Skelton and Lovelady gets hurt- you're ****ed.

Thats a normal thought. Sac Bunting in the 1st inning is not.

[lamont]

Random and I haven't agreed on anything in a year haha

you should try it- you would be right more often

[msstate7]

What is the strikeout number to now?

7 today and 34 on the weekend. 45% of our outs this weekend are by strike out

[msstate7]

you should try it- you would be right more often

I disagree haha

[The Federalist Engineer]

Well, what do you know, Taccolini is having a great game against us too -

[msstate7]

Well, what do you know, Taccolini is having a great game against us too -

You know our batters always look forward to facing swac schools. SEC pitchers will look at our lineup like that this year. We're the school you pad your pitching stats vs in the sec

[ScoobaDawg]

Final 6-1

[MarketingBully]

7 today and 34 on the weekend. 45% of our outs this weekend are by strike out

Striking out 7 times today with the trash they were pitching is just incomprehensible. I'll also call it. Missouri will sweep this same team that swept us this weekend. Not too big a stretch but Missouri will sweep them.

[Cooterpoot]

USM swept one of our moral victories this weekend. And I believe it was on the road at Ruston.

[maroonmania]

USM swept one of our moral victories this weekend. And I believe it was on the road at Ruston.

We are just not good this year. Has anyone not figured that out yet? And regardless of all the reasons why it still stinks given how much pride we as MSU fans like to take in our baseball program.

[msstate7]

In the 2 games that Jake DH'd and pitched, he's 1-9 at the plate.

1-5 vs ark pine bluff
0-4 vs Arkansas

[I seen it dawg]

We are just not good this year. Has anyone not figured that out yet? And regardless of all the reasons why it still stinks given how much pride we as MSU fans like to take in our baseball program.

Amazingly it doesn't seem so

[I seen it dawg]

In the 2 games that Jake DH'd and pitched, he's 1-9 at the plate.

1-5 vs ark pine bluff
0-4 vs Arkansas

Some guys don't do well with doing both. Who we gonna run out there on Sundays....we don't have anyone. And I mean not a damn soul.

[lamont]

In the 2 games that Jake DH'd and pitched, he's 1-9 at the plate.

1-5 vs ark pine bluff
0-4 vs Arkansas

You got a better idea on who can absorb the innings he can give us?

[msstate7]

Some guys don't do well with doing both. Who we gonna run out there on Sundays....we don't have anyone. And I mean not a damn soul.

Self, ashcraft, or cyr... you know, pitchers. If we're gonna stick, let's stink while letting self or ashcraft get experience starting on Sunday

[lamont]

Self, ashcraft, or cyr

Self pitched and is recovering from a sore arm
Ashcraft has a 6.75 ERA so far
Cyr has a 6.46 ERA and has to start Tuesday

[state66]

With how putrid our offense is why are we redshirting Reed Smith? Great question asked earlier in the thread. Perfect game had him rated as a 10 out of 10 coming out of high school.

[msstate7]

Self pitched and is recovering from a sore arm
Ashcraft has a 6.75 ERA so far
Cyr has a 6.46 ERA and has to start Tuesday

And cyr had a 1.04 era last season. I'd rather give him a shot than put our AA on the mound for the 3rd time in a week.

[msstate7]

With how putrid our offense is why are we redshirting Reed Smith? Great question asked earlier in the thread. Perfect game had him rated as a 10 out of 10 coming out of high school.

If he's good as advertised, you put him at 2b and Stovall at catcher when he's healthy imo. Catcher is terrible and Stovall could fix that. If smith is good, we'll probably lose him after only playing 2 seasons. RS good players in college baseball is dumb

[lamont]

If he's good as advertised, you put him at 2b and Stovall at catcher when he's healthy imo. Catcher is terrible and Stovall could fix that. If smith is good, we'll probably lose him after only playing 2 seasons. RS good players in college baseball is dumb

if he was as good as advertised- he wouldnt be redshirting.

[The Federalist Engineer]

If he's good as advertised, you put him at 2b and Stovall at catcher when he's healthy imo. Catcher is terrible and Stovall could fix that. If smith is good, we'll probably lose him after only playing 2 seasons. RS good players in college baseball is dumb

Smith probably strikes out too much ... Just kidding, you make a good case. If Smith is to help us next season, he needs to play. Stovall only batted 220 as a freshman, he is a plus player now.

[I seen it dawg]

The red shirts are always better than what's on the roster and playing. Backup QB syndrome

[msstate7]

The red shirts are always better than what's on the roster and playing. Backup QB syndrome

Skelton was hitting .188 coming into today. Lovelady is hitting .174. If smith can outhit them, our lineup gets better. I don't know if he can or not, but it's pretty clear our present catchers can't. Stovall played catcher last year and played it well.

[CadaverDawg]

Skelton was hitting .188 coming into today. Lovelady is hitting .174. If smith can outhit them, our lineup gets better. I don't know if he can or not, but it's pretty clear our present catchers can't. Stovall played catcher last year and played it well.

Those are some disgusting averages. My word

[I seen it dawg]

Skelton was hitting .188 coming into today. Lovelady is hitting .174. If smith can outhit them, our lineup gets better. I don't know if he can or not, but it's pretty clear our present catchers can't. Stovall played catcher last year and played it well.

You aren't educating me

[msstate7]

Those are some disgusting averages. My word

Avg is probably their strongest offensive stat. I'd put the rest, but I'd feel bad about it

[lamont]

Skelton was hitting .188 coming into today. Lovelady is hitting .174. If smith can outhit them, our lineup gets better. I don't know if he can or not, but it's pretty clear our present catchers can't. Stovall played catcher last year and played it well.

which tells you what they think of Smith right now

[The Federalist Engineer]

Avg is probably their strongest offensive stat. I'd put the rest, but I'd feel bad about it

Low averages, high K %, few walks, and yet these dudes swing away

[msstate7]

which tells you what they think of Smith right now

I'm hoping it was more we expected marrero to be catcher and Stovall healthy

[msstate7]

If our averages decline 20% against the SEC, we have some people that basically need to develop a hit-by-pitch strategy - crowd that plate!

No crap

[CadaverDawg]

Low averages, high K %, few walks, and yet these dudes swing away

That's one of my biggest issues right now. Terrible averages, yet not trying to work a count or be selective at all. Makes no sense

[lamont]

I'm hoping it was more we expected marrero to be catcher and Stovall healthy

Marrero has been done for 10 days now. Still no Smith.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Team Batting Stats vs Arkansas:

Avg .183 with k's 35 with Bb's 4 in 93 Ab's

Blaylock stuck out 7 of 8 times batting. It's like we faced Verlander, Scherzer, and Kershaw this weekend

[lamont]

Team Batting Stats vs Arkansas:

Avg .183 with k's 35 with Bb's 4 in 93 Ab's

Blaylock stuck out 7 of 8 times batting. It's like we faced Verlander, Scherzer, and Kershaw this weekend

after Tennessee- we play @OM, vs Kentucky, and @SC....We could easily be 4-11 or 3-12 halfway thru the SEC season

[Cooterpoot]

We get it............we suck.

[Activated Alpha]

after Tennessee- we play @OM, vs Kentucky, and @SC....We could easily be 4-11 or 3-12 halfway thru the SEC season

Easily? More like assuredly.

[Cooterpoot]

1 win vs TN, Swept by OM, 1 win vs KY, swept by SC
4 wins would be the ceiling