Alabama Game

[CarolinaDawgs]

Im convinced this team can't play without fouling.

Im also convinced that this Bama team aint that good, but they OWN us.

[KOdawg1]

we are SLOPPY

[HoopsDawg]

Im convinced this team can't play without fouling.

Im also convinced that this Bama team aint that good, but they OWN us.

We have to lead the nation in moving screens. Good for at least 2 turnovers every freaking game.

[HoopsDawg]

we are SLOPPY

Q can be really frustrating sometimes with his lackadaisical approach.

[MarketingBully]

5/6 from the free throw line for Alabama (a 65% Free throw shooting team). Taylor who is a 40% free throw shooter is 3/4. They do things against us they don't do against other teams.

[mstatefan91]

Alabama has our number. They're bigger, drive the lane, and we are a foul happy bunch.

This is our third time playing, and it looks very similar to the first two times so far.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

We are outmanned down low....ADO and Brooks can't get here soon enough.... also we haven't figured out how to defend the high screen and roll from the last time we played them....

[MarketingBully]

So Alabama can get away with reach in fouls yet we have four fouls?

[MarketingBully]

That wasn't a foul on Stapleton just then.

[MarketingBully]

This is one sided foul calling right here.

[CarolinaDawgs]

That wasn't a foul on Stapleton just then.

JUST A ****ING TERRIBLE CALL. IF anything it could've been offensive with the extension..

[MarketingBully]

I'll tell you what I will be glad when Taylor's 8 year ass is gone from Alabama. I think he was in Anthony Grant's first recruiting class. How the hell is he still there?

[Ari Gold]

We have to lead the nation in moving screens. Good for at least 2 turnovers every freaking game.

That was a total bullshit call by that **** stick. He blew his whistle and called it almost before the defender " grazed" Datch...

[CarolinaDawgs]

Should've got same call on Peters there

[MarketingBully]

Lol, they don't call fouls on Alabama. Highway robbery is what is happening.

[MarketingBully]

No fouls on slapping grabbing Bama. This is just awful.

[msstate7]

Taylor too much down low and Key is the best player on this court. Alabama is gonna be really good next season when they add this top 5 class featuring a PG rated higher than Nick. Avery Johnson and bama will be a handful next season.

[Bothrops]

Despite the refs not letting us play today, Alabama is the team I hope we can be next year.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Kegler can't dribble for shit

[KOdawg1]

it's gotten to the point that everytime herard gets the ball down low, I know it's a wasted possession. I know he's a work in progress and is still learning but damn.

[MarketingBully]

Taylor too much down low and Key is the best player on this court. Alabama is gonna be really good next season when they add this top 5 class featuring a PG rated higher than Nick. Avery Johnson and bama will be a handful next season.

Bull shit. How the **** can you play defense when every touch foul is called on one side and they are able to dig into you on the other. It's stupid and we can't do anything.

[MarketingBully]

Taylor too much down low and Key is the best player on this court. Alabama is gonna be really good next season when they add this top 5 class featuring a PG rated higher than Nick. Avery Johnson and bama will be a handful next season.

You man 30 year old Taylor who has been there a billion years?

[CarolinaDawgs]

Jimmie Taylor is trash and we make him look like Wilt Chamberlain

[msstate7]

They've beat us twice already, have a better record, and played a tougher schedule... they're better

[MarketingBully]

So Q gets fouled on a layup attempt. Nothing called.

[MarketingBully]

Despite the refs not letting us play today, Alabama is the team I hope we can be next year.

Play thug ball? No thank you

[Bothrops]

it's gotten to the point that everytime herard gets the ball down low, I know it's a wasted possession. I know he's a work in progress and is still learning but damn.

Herard is not a very skilled offensive player, plain and simple.

[msstate7]

Bama too tough for Q. He's done nothing vs them all year

[Bothrops]

Play thug ball? No thank you

Wish we had their size too.

[KOdawg1]

Herard is not a very skilled offensive player, plain and simple.
not to bad mouth him, but he doesn't seem like a skilled defensive one either

[MarketingBully]

They've beat us twice already, have a better record, and played a tougher schedule... they're better

They play a ball that forces the refs to call fouls. When the refs don't call fouls, it's hard to beat a team like that. Johnson is not a dumb coach. He knows this is the only way he can win. We are a team made of mostly freshmen so we haven't been developed in the weight room yet. Alabama isn't going to play this style next year which will work to our advantage. The worst game in the whole tournament may be the game tomorrow if we can't come back South Carolina and Alabama.

[CarolinaDawgs]

carter and 1 geez these refs don't even try

[Irondawg]

The difference between the two teams is this to me (1) They play much better team defense and (2) They understand how to work for a good shot. They are limited offensively on talent, but they don't totally waste a lot of possessions like we do.

We take a lot of wild shot and everytime one of our guys touch the ball they're looking for their own shot instead of rotating it quickly.

Growing pains.

[Reunion Dog]

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[msstate7]

I saw this game in person the first time it was played in Starkville. This looks like an exact replica

[Irondawg]

See rigth there by Kegler - just an awful shot. He should see the bench immediately for that

[CarolinaDawgs]

Even when we play seemingly good defense they make the shot. I give up.

[MarketingBully]

They are calling anything we do down low a foul. It's getting to be comical.

[CarolinaDawgs]

I wish Lamar would come off the screen harder. He sometimes gets stuck crossing over nobody and then we just have to reset.

[Irondawg]

We are getting NO calls - they just fouled us 3 times on that one possession

[MarketingBully]

Four falls not called. I'd get a T here if I was Howland.

[CarolinaDawgs]

BLOW THE WHISTLE. Would be great to see Ben get in one of those Zebras asses.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Great shot Lamar****

[MarketingBully]

We are playing so tight and I really don't understand why.

[MarketingBully]

That's why IJ is important because Peters played like shit that half.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Great shot Lamar****

Just don't be a selfish dickhead. We could've went in down 7 now down 12. Thats just pure stupidity.

[Irondawg]

It's a bit typical for freshman that have never had teams play hard defense against them to panic. But we should have grown out of that by now. We're rushing everything offensively

[msstate7]

We are playing so tight and I really don't understand why.

Bc it appears we're playing daddy.

[CarolinaDawgs]

The basketball IQ on this team is looooooow. I mean common sense shit escapes them at times.

[MarketingBully]

It's a bit typical for freshman that have never had teams play hard defense against them to panic. But we should have grown out of that by now. We're rushing everything offensively

Yep, we are playing tight and Bama is playing loose. We have allowed Bama to do whatever on offense. What sucked the most is out inability to understand game situations. That five point swing right there daggered us for the second half. Just awful awful basketball from playing so well last night.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Great shot Lamar****
Him, Carter, Holman and Stapleton or Spoon all took horrendous shots from that distance that didn't come close to going in during the first half.

[msstate7]

The basketball IQ on this team is looooooow. I mean common sense shit escapes them at times.

This is one of the reasons I'm not going full blown sunshine on next season. We can load up with talent, but it takes more than just talent... ask pearl at auburn right now. We have guys that have ability, but not sure they're smart basketball guys to go along with that

[KOdawg1]

It feels like we should be down by more than 12. Not saying we'll come back because we aren't, but it's closer than what it feels like.

[MarketingBully]

Bc it appears we're playing daddy.

Oh shut up jack ass. Alabama will get a good dose of what they are giving tomorrow. We still finish 16-16 which is what you said you would be good with. We will be much better next year and I doubt that Alabama will beat us three times next year in fact I think we will split with them.

[saltydawg77]

I don't think Ben Howland is going to make it. Next year will be his last. We look like a Jr. high team out there and we have all year!!!!!!!!!! no improvement what so ever!!!!

[msstate7]

Oh shut up jack ass. Alabama will get a good dose of what they are giving tomorrow. We still finish 16-16 which is what you said you would be good with. We will be much better next year and I doubt that Alabama will beat us three times next year in fact I think we will split with them.

I can see us splitting with them next season, but I'd trade positions with them going forward right now. They're gonna be loaded

[MarketingBully]

This is one of the reasons I'm not going full blown sunshine on next season. We can load up with talent, but it takes more than just talent... ask pearl at auburn right now. We have guys that have ability, but not sure they're smart basketball guys to go along with that

Funny that you mention Auburn who swept Alabama. Nick Weatherspoon will be a huge improvement from Ready and we will have everyone back plus Ado and Brooks to help the front court issues. Saying you have given up on next year because we are playing poorly to a team that has better physicality this year is just plain stupid.

[MarketingBully]

I can see us splitting with them next season, but I'd trade positions with them going forward right now. They're gonna be loaded

Lol, you fans are comical. I wouldn't trade positions with anyone in the SEC going forward. They get two good shooting guard pieces but who replaces the 30 year old in the middle? They don't have studs coming in the post. We will actually match them pretty good next year and will have more talent then them. They won't be playing this style either. They will be pushing the ball more and will find out that playing that way actually will play into the hands of teams like us and Auburn. It will be fun the next couple of years.

[trob115]

I don't think Ben Howland is going to make it. Next year will be his last. We look like a Jr. high team out there and we have all year!!!!!!!!!! no improvement what so ever!!!!


Don't be ridiculous.

[msstate7]

Funny that you mention Auburn who swept Alabama. Nick Weatherspoon will be a huge improvement from Ready and we will have everyone back plus Ado and Brooks to help the front court issues. Saying you have given up on next year because we are playing poorly to a team that has better physicality this year is just plain stupid.
Where did I say I've given up? Just bc I don't think we're gonna be better than bama doesn't mean I don't think we'll be good. They've signed the #7 overall player in the country and beat Kentucky for a SG.

[MarketingBully]

Where did I say I've given up? Just bc I don't think we're gonna be better than bama doesn't mean I don't think we'll be good. They've signed the #7 overall player in the country and beat Kentucky for a SG.

PF? You mean the shooting guard from Huntsville?

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Great drive Stapleton.

[msstate7]

PF? You mean the shooting guard from Huntsville?
You right the PF is 4* (top 100) they beat Kansas for

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Every time we want to creep back into it they hit a 3. I feel like the same thing happened in one of the other games against them

[Irondawg]

what's the record for airballs by a team in the SECT?

[Dawg61]

Damn it the same year we beat LSU 3 times we also lose to Bama 3 times

[MarketingBully]

You right the PF is 4* (top 100) they beat Kansas for

They didn't recruit a PF. They recruited two SG, a SF and a C.

[msstate7]

Damn it the same year we beat LSU 3 times we also lose to Bama 3 times

4 of our 7 sec wins are vs lsu and Missouri. I didn't get my hopes up today bc I knew we were not the better team

[MarketingBully]

Another thing. What are they going to do with Engram who is 6-6? They recruited two players that are the same and will take his minutes away from him.

[Dawg61]

what's the record for airballs by a team in the SECT?

Miss State 2017 is all the record book will say

[Irondawg]

It's frustrating watch how much better coached Alabama is playing. My biggest beef with Howland this year is he couldn't get the guys to play anywhere near the defensive level necessary to consistently win.

Bama isn't giving us any open 3's as they are fighting through screens and closing out quickly. We're not moving the ball quick enough to counter that.

[Bothrops]

Yeah, it's a 5 on 5 mismatch against this bunch. They exploit our weaknesses until we self destruct.

[msstate7]

They didn't recruit a PF. They recruited two SG, a SF and a C.

Take it up with 247...

http://247sports.com/player/alex-reese-80061

[state66]

Our talent gap between where we are and the 5 seed is pretty astounding. Were going to have to improve alot in the offseason to close it.

[msugolf]

Yeah we're gonna be awesome next year! !!1!!1

Holman needs to eat a small human and we need to send everyone to team basketball camp in the offseason

[msstate7]

Our talent gap between where we are and the 5 seed is pretty astounding. Were going to have to improve alot in the offseason to close it.

The 5-seed will be much better next season too.

[Irondawg]

Our offensive game plan appears to be that whoeever has the ball is supposed to beat their man off the dribble and score.

[msstate7]

Our offensive game plan appears to be that whoeever has the ball is supposed to beat their man off the dribble and score.

Game plan lol

[CarolinaDawgs]

Thing that really is depressing to watch is us to get beat the same damn way every time we played them this year. Uhhhh hey Ben, how about an adjustment?

[Dawg61]

Our ceiling is higher than Bama's but their floor is way higher than ours and everytime we play them we play at our floor and they play at their ceiling. They are too big and physical for all of our freshman and they confuse us when we are on offense into playing hero ball instead of team ball.

[MarketingBully]

When you let a team like Alabama get away with fouling like these officials have it makes it hard to beat them. South Carolina does the same thing. We are obviously very flustered from this shit and that is why we are playing like shit. The refs set the tone early and it is hard to over come it. Alabama is literally fouling every offensive possession we have had. This type of basketball they were supposed to get rid of but yet here we are.

[MarketingBully]

Our ceiling is higher than Bama's but their floor is way higher than ours and everytime we play them we play at our floor and they play at their ceiling. They are too big and physical for all of our freshman and they confuse us when we are on offense into playing hero ball instead of team ball.

Exactly. We will be better for it though too next year.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Someone get a tech at this point. Have some ****ing gonads

[Irondawg]

Howland needs to pull them all over and say the every time a person takes a dumbass low % shot they're coming out and not going back in the rest of the game

[Dawg61]

Herard reminds me of a baby giraffe learning how to walk

[CarolinaDawgs]

Take us out back and finish us please.

[MarketingBully]

So when we drive to the basket no foul and when they drive to the basket ****ing foul every time.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Someone please god show LP how to use a screen.

[Irondawg]

If anybody ever wants to coach basketball and show what playing tough defense will do to an undisciplined team, this would be the tape to put in.

[MarketingBully]

This is an embarrassing performance by us though. No reason not to have fight. We look like we just rolled over.

[MarketingBully]

If anybody ever wants to coach basketball and show what playing tough defense will do to an undisciplined team, this would be the tape to put in.

Tough defense? You mean fouling reaching grabbing defense.

[Dawg61]

Peters told the barber to shave his hair and his game off

[Irondawg]

we should have more fouls called on them but they are in our jock strap and closing out very well. We're rushing everythign as a result. so yeah, it's good defense.

[msstate7]

Peters told the barber to shave his hair and his game off

Haha

[CarolinaDawgs]

Tough defense? You mean fouling reaching grabbing defense.

I would have absolutely no problem with the new rules if they applied to everybody. Only reason Nova won the Tourney last year is because they were branded as "hard-nosed" defensively. Its complete bullshit.

[MarketingBully]

Oh yeah, you are talking about Alex Reese? Lol, he is as soft as they come.

[msstate7]

Oh yeah, you are talking about Alex Reese? Lol, he is as soft as they come.

We recruited him, so maybe you're right

[CadaverDawg]

God we look awful

[TUSK]

Tough defense? You mean fouling reaching grabbing defense.

Reminds me of our DBs....

#RECDoinWerk

[GTHOM]

This is UGLY

[MarketingBully]

We recruited him, so maybe you're right

A guy I know says he is chamin soft. He won't contribute much for them next year.

[KOdawg1]

Holman thinks he's a 3 point sharpshooter.

[MarketingBully]

We recruited him, so maybe you're right

Man, what is your deal? We are going to be 16-16 and yes we are getting killed by Alabama in this tournament but that won't have a bearing on next year.

[msstate7]

God we look awful

In the words of Jesus though, it is finished... thank God. We just have one more train wreck to endure till June

[msstate7]

Man, what is your deal? We are going to be 16-16 and yes we are getting killed by Alabama in this tournament but that won't have a bearing on next year.

Just wanted to see more toughness than I saw today.

[ZedFedder]

Next year will be the barometer. That being said... it's very disheartening and worrisome that some of the same technical issues have persisted under Howland. More than anything, the team chooses when it wants to get effort instead of all the time. Doesn't feel like he has much control of them. Like I said, I personally won't make a judgment until next season. But this season and Ben Howland have been a disappointment thus far.

[Dawg61]

Holman thinks he's a 3 point sharpshooter.

That's cause everyone keeps telling him he's a stretch 4 when he's really a broke 4

[Irondawg]

Good grief ready just had a 3 on 2 with an easy layup on his left side cutter and instead took a 12 foot jumper.

One day he looks like Chris Paul and is seeing the floor great and commanding the offense and the next day he looks like he's never played organized basketball before.

[Reunion Dog]

SCHOLLY ON THIS TEAM AND MAKE EACH & ONE EARN IT BACK. BOB BOYD'S TEAMS WEREN'T THIS BAD.... IF HOWLAND DOESN'T WANT TO BE HERE COACHING... LET HIS NON COACHING A$$ GO TO...

[MarketingBully]

Next year will be the barometer. That being said... it's very disheartening and worrisome that some of the same technical issues have persisted under Howland. More than anything, the team chooses when it wants to get effort instead of all the time. Doesn't feel like he has much control of them. Like I said, I personally won't make a judgment until next season. But this season and Ben Howland have been a disappointment thus far.

Sure you could say that. I was disappointed with the way this season went. But we got the two wins we needed to at least finish .500. Alabama is just a bad match up for us this year and when refs don't call fouls on them like they did in the first half we didn't stand a chance.

[Tbonewannabe]

It looks like somebody needs some social interaction from a pineapple party.

[MarketingBully]

Just wanted to see more toughness than I saw today.

You're asking for toughness with a frontline of Herard and Holman. Don't worry though because next year we get Ado and Brooks who are toughness type players this team is desperately needing. Guess who else has a lot of toughness? Nick Weatherspoon. We will be fine.

[SaintDawg]

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like this? did i do it right?

[MarketingBully]

I hope we compartmentalize this and beat the shit out of these asshats next year.

[MarketingBully]

Even up 25 the refs still giving them all the calls.

[NCDawg]

SCHOLLY ON THIS TEAM AND MAKE EACH & ONE EARN IT BACK. BOB BOYD'S TEAMS WEREN'T THIS BAD.... IF HOWLAND DOESN'T WANT TO BE HERE COACHING... LET HIS NON COACHING A$$ GO TO...

I agree Bob Boyd's teams weren't this bad. At least they made a good effort and were well coached. This team doesn't seem to care and plays with no discipline or toughness.

[MarketingBully]

You guys are asshats. Just stop posting for the afternoon.

[Jack Lambert]

SCHOLLY ON THIS TEAM AND MAKE EACH & ONE EARN IT BACK. BOB BOYD'S TEAMS WEREN'T THIS BAD.... IF HOWLAND DOESN'T WANT TO BE HERE COACHING... LET HIS NON COACHING A$$ GO TO...

Go pet a puppy or play with some legos. You need it.

[Goldendawg]

I stated yesterday that this team now had a year under their belt and I didn't see a team identity. I said that I hoped they would be a year better, not just a year older and some of you jumped on my thoughts. I just walked in from work and same old, same old. Maybe Ado, Nick, and Brooks will bring what we need, along with some processing if necessary. Wait Till Next Year (infamous State battle cry for us older dawgs.)

[LC Dawg]

IF HOWLAND DOESN'T WANT TO BE HERE COACHING... LET HIS NON COACHING A$$ GO TO...

Go to Where?

[CadaverDawg]

You're asking for toughness with a frontline of Herard and Holman. Don't worry though because next year we get Ado and Brooks who are toughness type players this team is desperately needing. Guess who else has a lot of toughness? Nick Weatherspoon. We will be fine.

You don't have to be big to be tough

[Commercecomet24]

I hear popping the bubbles on bubble wrap is good therapy.

[mparkerfd20]

I am waiting to be impressed with Howland... Maybe next year.

[Liverpooldawg]

We need two things: Experience and more true bigs. When we get that I think it's going to be fun again.

[MadDawg]

I am waiting to be impressed with Howland... Maybe next year.

Next year is the year, or so I've been told.

[louisvilledawg]

That's cause everyone keeps telling him he's a stretch 4 when he's really a broke 4

I agree. Regardless of IYOK says, my eyes see the same thing you see - a lanky 4 with a broke shot trying to be Klay Thompson. Holman may have a pretty rotation and good form, but the ball doesn't go in the hoop.

[louisvilledawg]

We need FOUR things: Experience, more buckets, less other team buckets, and more true bigs. When we get that I think it's going to be fun again.

FIFY

[Liverpooldawg]

FIFY

With experience and more true bigs the other two will take care of themselves. I wouldn't get too hyped about next year either for what it's worth. Bigs take time to really develop. I think we will be better but the NCAA tourney may be a stretch. A lot of y'all underestimated just how far whe had fallen.

[GTHOM]

If we arent better next year, are we ever gonna be good again?

[MarketingBully]

Here's a thought for Coach Howland. Play ****ing zone when you play teams like Alabama and South Carolina who can't hit for shit and play defense like they do. Playing man against Alabama and South Carolina is dumb as shit unless you are a team like Kentucky that can just out talent every position with 5 stars. They must have had a bazillion layups and and 1s against us because we are not a great man to man defense. If there is one huge flaw Coach Howland has it is he stubbornly only plays man defense which is not easy to learn for a bunch of freshmen.

[MarketingBully]

After looking at the stats, I am convinced that the X-factor for beating them today would have been playing zone. They were able to get their offense going basically just driving to the basket all night through penetration from Ingram. A zone stops that and forces them to pass around the perimeter to look for holes in the zone. It also would have stopped our dumb fouls from being out of position on them driving to the basket. We need to pick up an assistant who is an expert at the zone IMO since Howland doesn't have confidence in himself to teach it. In this day and age of basketball and the refs, you can't just be so stubborn to only play man. I am convinced that had we played zone some this year we probably have a few more wins. I just think it's very very hard for freshmen to pick up all the nuances that man to man concepts bring and I think young teams struggle to implement it. Hopefully next year our guys will understand what it takes to put a great man to man together.