Oregon Game 1 thread

[CadaverDawg]

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Love the lineup. Stovall is back

[msstate7]

I'm torn on the lineup. I like Stovall in front of mangum, but are there 8 guys we want hitting in front of Stovall? Is Stovall the guy we want to get the least ABs this year?

[CadaverDawg]

I'm torn on the lineup. I like Stovall in front of mangum, but are there 8 guys we want hitting in front of Stovall? Is Stovall the guy we want to get the least ABs this year?

If it ain't broke? But I see what you're saying. I wouldn't complain either way.

But Rankin taking snaps at Center...let's talk about that shit ass Hevesy.**

[msstate7]

I'd keep the same guys, but go...

Mangum
Stovall
Alexander
Rooker
Brown
Gridley
Poole
Skelton
Blaylock

[msstate7]

If it ain't broke? But I see what you're saying. I wouldn't complain either way.

But Rankin taking snaps at Center...let's talk about that shit ass Hevesy.**

I definitely think we should discuss the oline here till the game starts. I think I'm close to getting you on my side haha

[CadaverDawg]

I definitely think we should discuss the oline here till the game starts. I think I'm close to getting you on my side haha

So close**

[CadaverDawg]

I'd keep the same guys, but go...

Mangum
Stovall
Alexander
Rooker
Brown
Gridley
Poole
Skelton
Blaylock

Not sure I like LA in the 3 hole, but I could live with it. Why not this....

Mangum
Stovall
Cody
Rooker
LA
Gridley
Poole
Blaylock
Skelton

But I kinda like having Stovall for some pop in the bottom of the lineup

[msstate7]

Not sure I like LA in the 3 hole, but I could live with it. Why not this....

Mangum
Stovall
Cody
Rooker
LA
Gridley
Poole
Blaylock
Skelton

But I kinda like having Stovall for some pop in the bottom of the lineup

I like it. We desperately need another couple good LH hitters. We have 2 guys that hit (can hit) LH'd. Facing RHP may be a problem this year

[msstate7]

Atta boy, gridley. Come on rooker

[Percho]

I am watching on Pac 12 net on computer

[preachermatt83]

We need to find a first baseman something terrible. Cole is a strikeout waiting to happen and brown is just not an everyday SEC caliber guy.

[preachermatt83]

We may do fine getting the games in. I didn't realize it was a turf field.

[preachermatt83]

Rooker can't play 1b?

[Goldendawg]

Watching the game on the link posted here. The announcer said we were wearing red jerseys, red stirrup socks over white socks, and a red cap! Give me a break! Can't they even do their homework and know our school colors?

[preachermatt83]

I hate this camera angle

[Mutt the Hoople]

Watching the game on the link posted here. The announcer said we were wearing red jerseys, red stirrup socks over white socks, and a red cap! Give me a break! Can't they even do their homework and know our school colors?
They did say they caught a lot of crap on Twitter about that, and changed the colors to Maron.

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

Awesome to be able to watch this game on Pac 12 network on computer.

[msstate7]

I hope this pitcher is good

[preachermatt83]

This check swing crap is ridiculous

[CadaverDawg]

Is this guy the next Nolan Ryan? Bc we're sure making him look like it.

Is that 8 strikeouts through 4?

[msstate7]

Is this guy the next Nolan Ryan? Bc we're sure making him look like it

He has no velocity. He's a lefty facing a lineup with only 1 true lh hitter... this is pretty concerning to me

[The Federalist Engineer]

We need to find a first baseman something terrible. Cole is a strikeout waiting to happen and brown is just not an everyday SEC caliber guy.

I can't disagree completely, but Cody is decently clutch, big game clutch

[Pollodawg]

Score?

[msstate7]

Score?

0-0 T5

[msstate7]

10 k's thru 4.2 jeez

[msstate7]

Apparently Oregon pitcher has better velocity than I thought. He just hit 92 and I thought he topped out in upper 80s

[Pollodawg]

Least it's tied up, right? Sounds fun.

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

Hell of a play by Skelton...

[msstate7]

Least it's tied up, right? Sounds fun.

Nope. Oregon 1-0 on absolute blast. That's probably enough to win this

[Pollodawg]

Sounds sucky.

[msstate7]

Come on dawgs... make some freaking contact

[msstate7]

I don't think we're hitting against against Marist, Indiana st, morehead, etc anymore... 11 k's in 5.1

[msstate7]

12 k's in 5.2

[msstate7]

13 k's in 6.0 ip

[BayouDawg]

Well crooms would be proud of this offensive effort

[The Federalist Engineer]

This Oregon pitcher is just mowing us down - our at bats are getting worse - everybody seem to be on 0-2 count on two pitches

[msstate7]

These 6 scoreless innings by Oregon pitcher has his ERA down to 5.06 for the year.

[msstate7]

This Oregon pitcher is just mowing us down - our at bats are getting worse - everybody seem to be on 0-2 count on two pitches

Not facing little sisters of the poor anymore

[Cooterpoot]

We're a women's basketball school

[msstate7]

We're a women's basketball school

Women's basketball and NCAA enforcement are all I care about it anymore

[msstate7]

Pilk has been good tonight

[msstate7]

Uh oh

[msstate7]

Huge out. Good job, pilk

[msstate7]

14 k's thru 6.1 ip

We not good at hitting

[msstate7]

15 k's thru 6.2 ip

5 k's in a row

[msstate7]

Yay, we grounded out to 2nd

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

New Oregon record

[msstate7]

Pilk back out. Don't like it... he was fortunate to survive 6th

[msstate7]

These 7 scoreless innings vs us has his ERA down to 4.76. He had been getting smashed

[msstate7]

Good job, pilk... another scoreless inning despite lead off getting on. Great outing

[msstate7]

16 k's

[msstate7]

Mangum single... 1 on, 2 outs, Alexander up

[maroonmania]

Mangum single... 1 on, 2 outs, Alexander up

Glad to see Cannizaro is helping us battle at the plate and lower the strikeout total.***

[Skydawg1]

17-18 K's now for that Duck guy? Jeebus. Thanks LA for your contributions to that guys career high K's.

[msstate7]

So stupid... Alexander had k'd his previous 3 ABs and had 2-0 count. Cann turns him loose and he swings at ball 3. Alexander goes on to k again. Take at 2-0 with a guy that hasn't made more than contact than barely touching a ball earlier in the game

[Bass Chaser]

Same damn pitch every time.

[maroonmania]

We've swung at so many balls in the dirt it's ridiculous. We might as well go up there with a golf club rather than a bat.

[msstate7]

Gridley
Rooker
Gotta pinch hit for brown, right?

[msstate7]

Oregon with 2 on

[msstate7]

Cyr in. This doesn't seem like a good idea

[Skydawg1]

Cyr in. Weekend conceded. Probably gonna be rained out the rest of the way anyhows.

[msstate7]

Cyr wild pitch... runners 2nd and 3rd

[msstate7]

Peterson vs Fresno state...
4.0 ip 5 er 4 k

Peterson vs uc Irvine...
6.0 ip 4 er 5 k

Vs state...
8.0 ip 0 er 17 k

[msstate7]

Atta boy, cyr

[msstate7]

Clayton Keyshaw is out

[msstate7]

Gridley weak grounder to 2b

[msstate7]

Rooker single

Gordon pinch hitting?

[msstate7]

Gordon fly out

[msstate7]

Mcnamee doubles

[msstate7]

Blaylock up with chance to give us lead

[msstate7]

0-2 count

[msstate7]

Blaylock k's

Blaylock and Poole may not hit enough to play every day

[Activated Alpha]

And strikeout....worst hitting game ever

[msstate7]

And strikeout....worst hitting game ever

I think we'll see many, many more of these this season.

[maroonmania]

Team just doesn't have it right now. Blaylock got a fat, fat pitch at 0-1 with the tying and go ahead runners at 2nd and 3rd and just fouled it back only to follow with a strikeout on a ball in the dirt. So now 3 of our four losses haven now been 9-8, 1-0 and a game where we blew a 5 run lead in the 9th inning.

[Skydawg1]

Pray for rain boys...pray for rain.

[msstate7]

I'm beginning to think it was no mistake cohen wanted to move to AD this offseason

[Activated Alpha]

Sad thing is we wasted a good outing from Pilkington

[Skydawg1]

Starting to wonder how "the next superstar" coach allows his team to strike out 17 times. Plus he's the "hitting coach". Hendo say "take a seat Rook".

[msstate7]

Starting to wonder how "the next superstar" coach allows his team to strike out 17 times. Plus he's the "hitting coach". Hendo say "take a seat Rook".

Thought it was 18

[HSVDawg]

I'm beginning to think it was no mistake cohen wanted to move to AD this offseason

It definitely was a factor in his decision to move on, no question about it. Finishing in the cellar of the SEC two out of three years would have not been good for his long term prospects. I think he knew what this team was going to be after the first 4 Tommy John injuries. Obviously, not his fault though and most reasonable fans would have been happy to give him another year ("most" being the key word).

[BayouDawg]

I really would like to see state baseball get to a more consistent level. I think we have all the resources to and I think Cann can do the job.

[Skydawg1]

18 total K's. Peterson had 17 on his own.

[msstate7]

It definitely was a factor in his decision to move on, no question about it. Finishing in the cellar of the SEC two out of three years would have not been good for his long term prospects. I think he knew what this team was going to be after the first 4 Tommy John injuries. Obviously, not his fault though and most reasonable fans would have been happy to give him another year ("most" being the key word).

This team has more issues than TJ victims. We really only have 1 legitimate middle of the order bat in rooker. We have some guys that can hit, but no real strike fear in opposing teams like we should have

[Irondawg]

From what I've seen so far we have to find a way to recognize strikes at the plate. Players are going to have bad AB's and go through slumps - that's life. But as a team we have swung at a tremendous amount of balls in the dirt. We need to work on better strike zone recognition before SEC play or we're going to have more games like this.

[HSVDawg]

This team has more issues than TJ victims. We really only have 1 legitimate middle of the order bat in rooker. We have some guys that can hit, but no real strike fear in opposing teams like we should have

Oh I totally agree. But, good pitching can overcome a lack of bats in many cases (look at our 2012 team for instance). We had the opportunity to have a big time staff but lost probably our 4 best arms over the summer, then probably 2 of the top 3 or 4 we had left early this season. Really just never had a chance from about August of 2016 onwards.

[tcdog70]

We've been scoring 8 runs a game. Maybe this pitcher just had really good stuff.

[msstate7]

Oh I totally agree. But, good pitching can overcome a lack of bats in many cases (look at our 2012 team for instance). We had the opportunity to have a big time staff but lost probably our 4 best arms over the summer, then probably 2 of the top 3 or 4 we had left early this season. Really just never had a chance from about August of 2016 onwards.

Definitely devastating to our pitching staff. We can't wait on them to heal either so we'll most likely have to bring in new faces to replace them. Those new guys will need time to adjust, so I don't think this is a 1 year fix for our staff unless practically everyone of our currents pan out

[tcdog70]

So stupid... Alexander had k'd his previous 3 ABs and had 2-0 count. Cann turns him loose and he swings at ball 3. Alexander goes on to k again. Take at 2-0 with a guy that hasn't made more than contact than barely touching a ball earlier in the game

2-0 is called acripple pitch. If you are going to get a pitch to hit it is usually on 2-0. But it doesn't mean you swing at ball 3

[msstate7]

We've been scoring 8 runs a game. Maybe this pitcher just had really good stuff.

Maybe. Fresno and uc Irvine roughed him up though... his era was 8.10 entering tonight

[Homedawg]

Good lord people. I didn't even read but page 5 and you people are freaking nuts. Yes, I'm sure Cohen knew this would be a down year. Im also sure he was recruiting very well. I'm also sure he didn't count on 4 tj's which turned into 6. I'm also sure canny is going to be fine. I'm positive. So for the love of all the stupid will James bullshit just stop. Stop. We will be back. And quick. I told you this year was going to be a struggle. Deal with it.

[msstate7]

2-0 is called acripple pitch. If you are going to get a pitch to hit it is usually on 2-0. But it doesn't mean you swing at ball 3

Normally I'd agree, but Peterson made Alexander look like me facing Clayton Keyshaw tonight. Alexander wasn't making contact if they gave him 8 strikes

[tcdog70]

Normally I'd agree, but Peterson made Alexander look like me facing Clayton Keyshaw tonight. Alexander wasn't making contact if they gave him 8 strikes

But all other times He was behind in the count. This was the only at bat he had the pitcher in the hole. Swinging on 2-0 is a good way to help a batter that has been struggling making contact.

[msstate7]

But all other times He was behind in the count. This was the only at bat he had the pitcher in the hole. Swinging on 2-0 is a good way to help a batter that has been struggling making contact.

He didn't touch the ball with a 2-0 count either

[msstate7]

Good lord people. I didn't even read but page 5 and you people are freaking nuts. Yes, I'm sure Cohen knew this would be a down year. Im also sure he was recruiting very well. I'm also sure he didn't count on 4 tj's which turned into 6. I'm also sure canny is going to be fine. I'm positive. So for the love of all the stupid will James bullshit just stop. Stop. We will be back. And quick. I told you this year was going to be a struggle. Deal with it.

I just think we should be a more consistent program. Bianco has missed a regional 2 times in 16 years. We're gonna miss one 2 of the last 3

[HSVDawg]

Good lord people. I didn't even read but page 5 and you people are freaking nuts. Yes, I'm sure Cohen knew this would be a down year. Im also sure he was recruiting very well. I'm also sure he didn't count on 4 tj's which turned into 6. I'm also sure canny is going to be fine. I'm positive. So for the love of all the stupid will James bullshit just stop. Stop. We will be back. And quick. I told you this year was going to be a struggle. Deal with it.

I don't think anyone is really jumping off a cliff, blaming Cohen, or blaming Cannizaro. This team just isn't very good and it isn't really anyone's fault (except for maybe partially Wes Johnson's....). But mostly it appears to be bad luck. Calling a spade a spade and saying there were warning signs of a down year coming as early as last August does not equate to bitching. I think it serves as a healthy reality check to the "regional every year....no excuses" crowd that sometimes shit happens and it doesn't mean our coaches or players suck at what they do.

[CadaverDawg]

Fire Hevesy

[msstate7]

Apparently ashcraft is the Sunday guy since cyr pitched tonight. I like this move. I don't think ashcraft is gonna be that good this year, but I like him getting experience. I do think he will be good next season assuming we can keep his elbow in tact

[msstate7]

Fire Hevesy

Looks like we may have longer than normal to talk about everyone's favorite coach this year

[HSVDawg]

Fire Hevesy

Rep given

[State82]

I just think we should be a more consistent program. Bianco has missed a regional 2 times in 16 years. We're gonna miss one 2 of the last 3

Bingo. 'Nuff said.

[CadaverDawg]

I just think we should be a more consistent program. Bianco has missed a regional 2 times in 16 years. We're gonna miss one 2 of the last 3

I agree

[HSVDawg]

I just think we should be a more consistent program. Bianco has missed a regional 2 times in 16 years. We're gonna miss one 2 of the last 3

Yeah but I think 2015 was a hell of a lot more inexcusable than this season. Still no idea what went wrong with that squad. We just lost too many draftees and had too many early and preseason injuries (along with an all new coaching staff) to be able to reasonably expect much in 2017. You can't just ignore all that stuff in the name of what you think we should be because of the name on the jersey. Vanderbilt, LSU, or any other major baseball power would be going through the same funk as us right now if subjected to the same circumstances.

[Todd4State]

The guy they threw tonight pitched for the U.S. National team this summer and is probably a top five round pick. It sucks he figured things out tonight. This was the same guy that walked a ton of our guys last year in the Sunday game.

Let's see how we do the rest of the series and in SEC play before we worry about missing a regional.

[msstate7]

Yeah but I think 2015 was a hell of a lot more inexcusable than this season. Still no idea what went wrong with that squad. We just lost too many draftees and had too many early and preseason injuries (along with an all new coaching staff) to be able to reasonably expect much in 2017. You can't just ignore all that stuff in the name of what you think we should be because of the name on the jersey. Vanderbilt, LSU, or any other major baseball power would be going through the same funk as us right now if subjected to the same circumstances.

I don't have vandy and lsu expectations. I expect to make a regional every year, a super regional every 2-3 years, and be in the CWS every 4-5 years

[Todd4State]

Yeah but I think 2015 was a hell of a lot more inexcusable than this season. Still no idea what went wrong with that squad. We just lost too many draftees and had too many early and preseason injuries (along with an all new coaching staff) to be able to reasonably expect much in 2017. You can't just ignore all that stuff in the name of what you think we should be because of the name on the jersey. Vanderbilt, LSU, or any other major baseball power would be going through the same funk as us right now if subjected to the same circumstances.

It was a combination of things. We mismanaged the pitching staff and got caught in the baseball change without having a chance to adapt. Given a chance to adapt our roster and we all saw what happened.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Blaylock has struck out 13 times in 27 abs .... Pool has struck out 12 of 30....McNamee deserves a shot, let's see if he can make contact.

[msstate7]

Blaylock has struck out 13 times in 27 abs .... Pool has struck out 12 of 30....McNamee deserves a shot, let's see if he can make contact.

Gordon has struck out 11 out of 24 ABs.

Coming into tonight, we have struck out 72 times out of 319 times (22.6%) vs very poor pitching. We struck out 18 times tonight... contact is gonna be an issue this season

[HSVDawg]

I don't have vandy and lsu expectations. I expect to make a regional every year, a super regional every 2-3 years, and be in the CWS every 4-5 years

It doesn't matter what your expectations are. The point is Vandy and LSU are two programs that have both been considerably more successful than we have over the past decade (and in LSU's case more like the past 2 decades) and have built themselves into college baseball super powers. Whether anyone who still thinks its 1985 wants to admit it or not, they are both solidly above us in the pecking order right now in terms of the talent they have been able to bring in and overall program stature. And even they would be having the same struggles with what we have been dealing with in terms of injuries and turnover in the roster and coaching staff. Its not the end of the world if we tank this year, as a lot of really unusual circumstances have had to align perfectly for this current shit storm to ensue. I'll start judging Cannizaro and this staff in 2018, but not before then unless we somehow do make a regional this year. If that happens, we need to take the current highest salary for a college baseball coach, double it, then write him a check.

[basedog]

It doesn't matter what your expectations are. The point is Vandy and LSU are two programs that have both been considerably more successful than we have over the past decade (and in LSU's case more like the past 2 decades) and have built themselves into college baseball super powers. Whether anyone who still thinks its 1985 wants to admit it or not, they are both solidly above us in the pecking order right now in terms of the talent they have been able to bring in and overall program stature. And even they would be having the same struggles with what we have been dealing with in terms of injuries and turnover in the roster and coaching staff. Its not the end of the world if we tank this year, as a lot of really unusual circumstances have had to align perfectly for this current shit storm to ensue. I'll start judging Cannizaro and this staff in 2018, but not before then unless we somehow do make a regional this year. If that happens, we need to take the current highest salary for a college baseball coach, double it, then write him a check.

You sir knocked it out of the park! Competition changed everything, I'm thinking Cannizaro will be really good one day, he wasn't dealt the best cards to start off with. Polk II really hurt us, we are still playing catch up.

[maroonmania]

I just think we should be a more consistent program. Bianco has missed a regional 2 times in 16 years. We're gonna miss one 2 of the last 3

Not only missing a regional 2 out of the last 3 years, I'm concerned we will end up with a losing record 2 out of the last 3 years. Out of 10 games so far this year we already have 3 losses to teams that are mediocre to bad.

[CJDAWG85]

KP pitched just as well last night. Let's hit the brakes here. The season is young and this team has the tools to be a good team.

[Dawg61]

Gordon has struck out 11 out of 24 ABs.

Wow, do something different at the plate bro. That's ****ing garbage

[CadaverDawg]

Yeah, Gordon should only see the plate against midweek opponents until he figures shit out. He's awful at the plate. SEC baseball is not for lumberjacks that just want to swing out of their shoes every pitch, and have no clue what an approach is

[CadaverDawg]

That being said...sometimes you just have it as a pitcher some nights. Nights where even your mistake pitches end up in a good spot. Their guy had one last night, and we still only lost by one. Our young guys will learn from it. I still think we will win 1 up there, with a good chance at winning both remaining games

[msstate7]

Yeah, Gordon should only see the plate against midweek opponents until he figures shit out. He's awful at the plate. SEC baseball is not for lumberjacks that just want to swing out of their shoes every pitch, and have no clue what an approach is

We pinch hit him in the 9th in favor of another lefty that's had huge hits for us in his career. Another move that I just don't understand

[msstate7]

That being said...sometimes you just have it as a pitcher some nights. Nights where even your mistake pitches end up in a good spot. Their guy had one last night, and we still only lost by one. Our young guys will learn from it. I still think we will win 1 up there, with a good chance at winning both remaining games

Ready to see plumlee vs his best completion so far this year. I like us today. I don't like us tomorrow

[msstate7]

We've now struck out 90 times in 353 ABs... 25.5%. We have to start making contact. We haven't even began sec play, so you know that number will most likely go up. Last year, we struck out 378 times in 2,216 ABs... 17.1%

ETA... I know you need PAs to get true strike out rate, but thebaseballcube.com doesn't have it for some reason. Rather than add sacrifices and BBs, I'll just give you the k to bb ratio for this year and last:

'17 -- 39 BBs to 90 Ks = 0.4333
'16 -- 235 BBs to 378 Ks = 0.6217

[msstate7]

Stolen from Joe Mayo on sps...

"Poole's last 4 games...
0-14 with 8 strikeouts..."

The rest was just bashing, so I edited it out. Poole is obviously struggling though and it's probably time to try someone else

[maroonmania]

Yeah, Gordon should only see the plate against midweek opponents until he figures shit out. He's awful at the plate. SEC baseball is not for lumberjacks that just want to swing out of their shoes every pitch, and have no clue what an approach is

First base is a real problem right now. Gordon has been awful but Brown is only hitting .200 himself. Just a huge dropoff there from having Lowe last year. Not sure what other options we have if Rooker is going to stay in the OF.