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RealHastings
02-26-2017, 09:36 PM
He gone. Will be made official tomorrow.

ScoobaDawg
02-26-2017, 09:38 PM
Source?

ShotgunDawg
02-26-2017, 09:38 PM
Wha?????

I'll need to see an official Elitedawgs source confirm this before believing.

Can't let Elitedawgs track record be ruined due to a rouge poster

BeardoMSU
02-26-2017, 09:41 PM
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TrapGame
02-26-2017, 09:43 PM
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RealHastings
02-26-2017, 09:44 PM
Bear friends in one of my group messages. One of them is an athletic trainer for them. I can't confirm it to be true or not, but they sure are upset and believe it to be. We shall see.

reno hightower
02-26-2017, 09:44 PM
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God I love the movie Just Friends...

Also, I hope this thread is real

ShotgunDawg
02-26-2017, 09:53 PM
So Hey Hugh is sacrificing all the money left in his contract in order to save face?

Eh, I don't think so. Unless....he knows he's getting a show cause and wouldn't get the money anyway.

BeardoMSU
02-26-2017, 09:54 PM
So Hey Hugh is sacrificing all the money left in his contract in order to save face?

Eh, I don't think so. Unless....he knows he's getting a show cause and wouldn't get the money anyway.

Won't he still get the show cause, despite resigning, though?

EngDawg
02-26-2017, 09:54 PM
Don't post ITS HERE or ITS COMING unless you are 100% sure IT is.

BoomBoom
02-26-2017, 09:54 PM
So Hey Hugh is sacrificing all the money left in his contract in order to save face?

Eh, I don't think so. Unless....he knows he's getting a show cause and wouldn't get the money anyway.

could always be a negotiated settlement of a portion of the remainder of his contract.

Liverpooldawg
02-26-2017, 09:56 PM
That hostage video did have the look of the dreaded 'vote of confidence" from the management.

Dawgology
02-26-2017, 09:56 PM
We need confirmation from a second source.

EngDawg
02-26-2017, 09:56 PM
SterlingArcher on SPS is saying this as well

msstate7
02-26-2017, 09:57 PM
could always be a negotiated settlement of a portion of the remainder of his contract.

Yep.

SDDawg
02-26-2017, 10:02 PM
Some crazy shit going around on FB tonight. Could get ugly tomorrow.

Political Hack
02-26-2017, 10:04 PM
Timing lines up with the potential story on his personal life.

EngDawg
02-26-2017, 10:06 PM
Also DawgatAuburn saying this on SPS

I seen it dawg
02-26-2017, 10:06 PM
Potential? Hahahahaha

Dallas_Dawg
02-26-2017, 10:07 PM
So is this NCAA related or his pecker?
Or both?

Todd4State
02-26-2017, 10:11 PM
So is this NCAA related or his pecker?
Or both?

My guess is some of both plus the 5-7 season with an Egg Bowl beat down at home.

DoctorDawg
02-26-2017, 10:13 PM
Some crazy shit going around on FB tonight. Could get ugly tomorrow.
About?

Johnson85
02-26-2017, 10:19 PM
nm

TrapGame
02-26-2017, 10:22 PM
After the Cliff Notes video the NCAA may have called and said we aren't dropping the LOIC no matter what you present to us in your defense. At that point Vitter may have told Hugh to find a sword to fall on.

Political Hack
02-26-2017, 10:22 PM
A few days ago the 3-stooges were locking arms at the press conference. If there's been this big of a swing, there's only 2 things that could've caused it. One of those rumors I posted here the other day. The other hasn't been released yet, but if he steps down tomorrow, it'll be time to share that too.

This "war" they've declared on State isn't really going their way so far...

pdawg10msu
02-26-2017, 10:24 PM
I'm hearing a confirmation on this as well.

drummerdawg
02-26-2017, 10:27 PM
Interesting if true. He was at their baseball game today.

Dawgology
02-26-2017, 10:29 PM
A few days ago the 3-stooges were locking arms at the press conference. If there's been this big of a swing, there's only 2 things that could've caused it. One of those rumors I posted here the other day. The other hasn't been released yet, but if he steps down tomorrow, it'll be time to share that too.

This "war" they've declared on State isn't really going their way so far...

Now this gets my attention.

lamont
02-26-2017, 10:29 PM
shitbird

Dawgowar
02-26-2017, 10:31 PM
A few days ago the 3-stooges were locking arms at the press conference. If there's been this big of a swing, there's only 2 things that could've caused it. One of those rumors I posted here the other day. The other hasn't been released yet, but if he steps down tomorrow, it'll be time to share that too.

This "war" they've declared on State isn't really going their way so far...

They will wake up one morning very soon to find we are the least of their troubles. This is just anger now. Misplaced. Wrong target. I suspect they will soon eat their own.

somebodyshotmypaw
02-26-2017, 10:36 PM
I heard it this morning around 7:30 from a very well-connected alumnus of Ole Miss. However I couldn't get a feel from him on if he was serious or just trying to mess with me. So I'll guess we will have to wait and see.

WinningIsRelentless
02-26-2017, 10:37 PM
A few days ago the 3-stooges were locking arms at the press conference. If there's been this big of a swing, there's only 2 things that could've caused it. One of those rumors I posted here the other day. The other hasn't been released yet, but if he steps down tomorrow, it'll be time to share that too.

This "war" they've declared on State isn't really going their way so far...

Would you happen to be referring to the ms law that says a coach can't sway a athlete to a certain agent? Protecting mommy-gate

I seen it dawg
02-26-2017, 10:37 PM
Would you happen to be referring to the ms law that says a coach can't sway a athlete to a certain agent? Protecting mommy-gate

Different kind of mommy gate

BayouDawg
02-26-2017, 10:38 PM
Who's fault will it be that freeze had an affair? They've already blamed Lewis for all the allegations and loafers for their whores, I mean hostesses. Who will they blame for this one?

Jack Lambert
02-26-2017, 10:39 PM
So Hey Hugh is sacrificing all the money left in his contract in order to save face?

Eh, I don't think so. Unless....he knows he's getting a show cause and wouldn't get the money anyway.

He will still get money his buy out.

Jack Lambert
02-26-2017, 10:41 PM
Won't he still get the show cause, despite resigning, though?

Either way he is going to be toxin for a while.

Todd4State
02-26-2017, 10:42 PM
Who's fault will it be that freeze had an affair? They've already blamed Lewis for all the allegations and loafers for their whores, I mean hostesses. Who will they blame for this one?

It's all part of Dan Mullen's diabolical plan to destroy them.**

Dawgowar
02-26-2017, 10:44 PM
@jackie Sherrill tweets. "Hugh's got a press conference". - old farts get that attempt at humor.

HSVDawg
02-26-2017, 10:44 PM
Juicy. I love rumors where you really don't have to wait long before finding out if they are legit or BS.

Reason2succeed
02-26-2017, 10:44 PM
Or maybe some of the big boys realized they're screwed and his future effectiveness has been rendered nil.

Pollodawg
02-26-2017, 10:46 PM
I don't want them weaseling out of worse sanctions at the last moment. If he resigns, OM will likely get a lesser sentence.

msstate7
02-26-2017, 10:48 PM
Let's say it is true... do they name an interim or try to get new HC?

Dawgowar
02-26-2017, 10:48 PM
I don't want them weaseling out of worse sanctions at the last moment. If he resigns, OM will likely get a lesser sentence.

No. It will not help them. Not even a little.

BayouDawg
02-26-2017, 10:50 PM
It's all part of Dan Mullen's diabolical plan to destroy them.**

Danny boy pulling off the long con**

Jack Lambert
02-26-2017, 10:52 PM
I don't want them weaseling out of worse sanctions at the last moment. If he resigns, OM will likely get a lesser sentence.

I don't disagree but the NOA's covers two different coaching staffs. They have proven to the NCAA that it doesn't matter who the coach is they are going to cheat their ass off. I don't think Freeze leaving is going to matter.

TrapGame
02-26-2017, 10:53 PM
No. It will not help them. Not even a little.


Yep, they're screwed. Freeze resigning would change nothing. They're in deep shit.

Dawgowar
02-26-2017, 10:54 PM
I don't disagree but the NOA's covers two different coaching staffs. They have proven to the NCAA that it doesn't matter who the coach is they are going to cheat their ass off. I don't think Freeze leaving is going to matter.

The NCAA likely realizes the relizes the issue is those bankrolling this operation. The coaches will just be the first trophies to go to the taxidermist.

Todd4State
02-26-2017, 10:55 PM
Let's say it is true... do they name an interim or try to get new HC?

New head coach. Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden aren't doing anything right now. I'm sure they would love to quit their TV/whatever else they are doing lifestyle to take over a dumpster fire in the SEC.

msudawglb
02-26-2017, 10:56 PM
So Hey Hugh is sacrificing all the money left in his contract in order to save face?

Eh, I don't think so. Unless....he knows he's getting a show cause and wouldn't get the money anyway.

This actually makes sense if the rumor is true that a story was going to break about Hugh having an affair by Monday.

ShotgunDawg
02-26-2017, 10:57 PM
Wolken just tweeted, "LOL"

I wonder if it's related?

BayouDawg
02-26-2017, 10:58 PM
I really don't know how they think they'll make a case against LOIC and failure to monitor. Literally half the staff was named in the NOA and hughinitis decided he would double dip.

Todd4State
02-26-2017, 10:59 PM
Or maybe some of the big boys realized they're screwed and his future effectiveness has been rendered nil.

Their 2017 season is essentially over already.

I guess you could look at it two ways- keep the guy because you're in too deep anyway and you're not going to be able to get someone worth a darn with unknown massive sanctions on the horizon. Or the other way to look at it is to fire Hugh and then start to try to move on likely with an interim or a guy like a Jim Grobe type.

civildawg
02-26-2017, 10:59 PM
He's watching the oscars

Homedawg
02-26-2017, 11:03 PM
He will still get money his buy out.

Um no. He won't in full. It will be w cause and his agent will get him a little and I mean a very little. He's screwed

HSVDawg
02-26-2017, 11:05 PM
No. It will not help them. Not even a little.

The only way it helps them is it gets the short term Croom or Rick Ray type hire in there faster which means they can fire him sooner once the sanctions start winding to a close and move onto a real coach a year earlier. In their position, the only timeline to consider when making those types of decisions is what is best for the program 4-5 years down the road and onward, because they are absolutely screwed between now and that time no matter what. That is what makes this all so glorious.

somebodyshotmypaw
02-26-2017, 11:29 PM
Word I'm hearing now is that with Freeze's succcess, they may go the route of high school coach again. I'm hearing Freeze is stepping down and they are hiring some ex high school coach named Wooldridge. Word is that Yancy recommended him to the AD. Yancy claims the guy is some sort of football god. I guess we will see. That type of hire seems kinda random to me. You could find at least 34 better options if you tried.

DCdawg
02-26-2017, 11:39 PM
I'll believe it when I see it, but if this article rumor were true (for his family's sake I hope it isn't) is there any facet of life in which Freeze doesn't cheat?

EngDawg
02-26-2017, 11:42 PM
Word I'm hearing now is that with Freeze's succcess, they may go the route of high school coach again. I'm hearing Freeze is stepping down and they are hiring some ex high school coach named Wooldridge. Word is that Yancy recommended him to the AD. Yancy claims the guy is some sort of football god. I guess we will see. That type of hire seems kinda random to me. You could find at least 34 better options if you tried.

Naw, I heard that guy turned em down.

BayouDawg
02-26-2017, 11:49 PM
I'll believe it when I see it, but if this article rumor were true (for his family's sake I hope it isn't) is there any facet of life in which Freeze doesn't cheat?

My momma always said if somebody'll lie to you they'll do anything else to you.

JoseBrown
02-27-2017, 12:08 AM
Word I'm hearing now is that with Freeze's succcess, they may go the route of high school coach again. I'm hearing Freeze is stepping down and they are hiring some ex high school coach named Wooldridge. Word is that Yancy recommended him to the AD. Yancy claims the guy is some sort of football god. I guess we will see. That type of hire seems kinda random to me. You could find at least 34 better options if you tried.

Yea, like they could get so lucky...**** What if they actually had a good coaching staff with all those blue chippers they paid for, and are about to pay handsomely for again? They may have reached #1 in the college football rankings, and in the first ever playoff rankings too. But they didn't...hahaha

BayouDawg
02-27-2017, 12:12 AM
Yea, like they could get so lucky...**** What if they actually had a good coaching staff with all those blue chippers they paid for, and are about to pay handsomely for again? They may have reached #1 in the college football rankings, and in the first ever playoff rankings too. But they didn't...hahaha

not only did they not win anything of consequence, they lost to Memphis with 3 first rounders!

gravedigger
02-27-2017, 12:18 AM
My momma always said if somebody'll lie to you they'll do anything else to you.


Scratch a lie, find a thief

Percho
02-27-2017, 01:45 AM
Naw, I heard that guy turned em down.

It beats Taco Bell.

GTHOM
02-27-2017, 08:11 AM
Bo Bounds jumping on this as well. Clocks ticking....

PassInterference
02-27-2017, 08:23 AM
If this is true and Freeze goes, it's the most Ole Miss thing ever because:

1) OM gets to tell the fans that the mean old NCAA didn't get Freeze.

2) OM gets to speak out of both sides of its mouth, arguing to the COI that they let Freeze go due to NCAA issues.

They get (somewhat) lighter penalties while pumping sunshine that Freeze escaped NCAA wrath, but stepped down because he such a great guy who made a personal mistake.

GTHOM
02-27-2017, 08:37 AM
On twitter Sheep Chuck said the Rev. aint resigning and has his focus on spring ball. Along with a instant ban to all MSU fans hahaha

smootness
02-27-2017, 08:38 AM
If this is true and Freeze goes, it's the most Ole Miss thing ever because:

1) OM gets to tell the fans that the mean old NCAA didn't get Freeze.

2) OM gets to speak out of both sides of its mouth, arguing to the COI that they let Freeze go due to NCAA issues.

They get (somewhat) lighter penalties while pumping sunshine that Freeze escaped NCAA wrath, but stepped down because he such a great guy who made a personal mistake.

This would absolutely not result in lighter penalties.

Hrdawg82
02-27-2017, 08:40 AM
When is this article coming out?

GreenheadDawg
02-27-2017, 08:46 AM
On twitter Sheep Chuck said the Rev. aint resigning and has his focus on spring ball. Along with a instant ban to all MSU fans hahaha

He's been wrong on pretty much everything else

maroonwhitedawg3ddd
02-27-2017, 09:39 AM
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TrapGame
02-27-2017, 09:44 AM
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Leeshouldveflanked
02-27-2017, 09:54 AM
Chuck say "Silly Rumor".... And he say he will block all MSU Fans

msstate7
02-27-2017, 09:58 AM
Where did this rumor start?

smootness
02-27-2017, 10:00 AM
Where did this rumor start?

Looks like in this thread by RealHastings

Tbonewannabe
02-27-2017, 10:04 AM
This would absolutely not result in lighter penalties.

I think they are about a year too late on firing Freeze to lessen penalties. After Tunsilgate, you would be hard pressed to believe UNM is doing anything proactively. Freeze wanted the truth out so bad he immediately left the draft to get answers, not to avoid the press or anything.

KB21
02-27-2017, 10:05 AM
Chuck say "Silly Rumor".... And he say he will block all MSU Fans

OM continues to make their shills look like idiots. How much more can guys like this take when that junior college continues to make them look like fools?

msstate7
02-27-2017, 10:06 AM
Looks like in this thread by RealHastings
Haha... I actually saw it on sps a few mins before here.

Tbonewannabe
02-27-2017, 10:06 AM
On twitter Sheep Chuck said the Rev. aint resigning and has his focus on spring ball. Along with a instant ban to all MSU fans hahaha

At this point if Chuck said the sky was blue, I would probably go outside to see what color the sky changed.

Cary Hudson's little bro
02-27-2017, 10:11 AM
The UM President said in the awkward video that he was 100% behind Freeze so I can't see them firing him a week later...

Leeshouldveflanked
02-27-2017, 10:23 AM
The UM President said in the awkward video that he was 100% behind Freeze so I can't see them firing him a week later...
Vitter = Pickett , Freeze & Bdork = University Greys, Archie = Robert E. Lee , NCAA = Union Army at Gettysburg ........ CHARGE!!!!!!

maroonmania
02-27-2017, 10:26 AM
not only did they not win anything of consequence, they lost to Memphis with 3 first rounders!

True, but we should always be grateful to Hunter Henry for keeping the cheaters out of the SEC championship game.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
02-27-2017, 10:30 AM
True, but we should always be grateful to Hunter Henry for keeping the cheaters out of the SEC championship game.

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Liverpooldawg
02-27-2017, 10:31 AM
The UM President said in the awkward video that he was 100% behind Freeze so I can't see them firing him a week later...

There is a sports management computer game that I have played for years. It's changed some over the various versions but one thing hasn't. When the "board of directors" issues statement saying that they are fully behind you and you have their unqualified support, the next time you lose, they fire you. That is what that video reminded me of.

GTHOM
02-27-2017, 10:40 AM
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Thats the best GIF I've ever seen

Johnson85
02-27-2017, 10:56 AM
Um no. He won't in full. It will be w cause and his agent will get him a little and I mean a very little. He's screwed

He will get as much as he's willing to push for. Unless they are getting the death penalty, trying to get cheap with the guy that literally knows where all the dead bodies are would be incredibly stupid. Freeze probably isn't coaching in the NCAA again regardless. Whether he goes quietly or not, he's probably not going to be treated well by Ole Miss alums after the penalties come down. The only thing that would keep him from going scorched earth on them is him trying to salvage some of his reputation as a godly man. But if news is going to break that would ruin that reputation regardless, there is no reason for him to not take the position that he did exactly what they asked and they are going to pay him his full contract or he is going to cooperate with the NCAA.

HSVDawg
02-27-2017, 11:00 AM
He will get as much as he's willing to push for. Unless they are getting the death penalty, trying to get cheap with the guy that literally knows where all the dead bodies are would be incredibly stupid. Freeze probably isn't coaching in the NCAA again regardless. Whether he goes quietly or not, he's probably not going to be treated well by Ole Miss alums after the penalties come down. The only thing that would keep him from going scorched earth on them is him trying to salvage some of his reputation as a godly man. But if news is going to break that would ruin that reputation regardless, there is no reason for him to not take the position that he did exactly what they asked and they are going to pay him his full contract or he is going to cooperate with the NCAA.

Why would he not be treated well? This is the same school that still inducted Billy Brewer into their sports hall of fame after he got them crippling sanctions on two different occasions.

GreenheadDawg
02-27-2017, 11:08 AM
So what are we hearing? Not gonna happen looks like.

Cooterpoot
02-27-2017, 11:09 AM
He's not resigning. At least not yet. Probably trying to work out the money.

Political Hack
02-27-2017, 11:26 AM
If it was going to happen today, it would've been out already.

Lumpy Chucklelips
02-27-2017, 11:38 AM
You would think if this did happen they would call for a press conference at a certain time to allow reporters to assemble...unless they like the video routine now. Boy would that be making a statement.

Political Hack
02-27-2017, 11:47 AM
They're probably trying to figure out how to win this press conference.

Truth be told, that presser is coming. Whether it's today or 2 months from now is irrelevant. The likelihood of him being on the sidelines come game 1 is close to 0%. They better have one hell of a rabbit to pull out of their hat...

smootness
02-27-2017, 11:50 AM
They're probably trying to figure out how to win this press conference.

Truth be told, that presser is coming. Whether it's today or 2 months from now is irrelevant. The likelihood of him being on the sidelines come game 1 is close to 0%. They better have one hell of a rabbit to pull out of their hat...

I think he will probably coach this year. I'd put it at about a 75% chance he's still there Game 1. It's this time next year that he has about a 0% chance of still being their coach.

The university response and sanctions process will take months. If they haven't fired him yet, they're not going to until that process is over.

Hot Rock
02-27-2017, 11:54 AM
Just as I thought, IT ain't coming today. If you make a prediction like this folks, it damn sure better come true or your shit is toast with me.

BeardoMSU
02-27-2017, 11:58 AM
Just as I thought, IT ain't coming today. If you make a prediction like this folks, it damn sure better come true or your shit is toast with me.

But hey, they got a bunch of clicks on a slow Sunday....

SDDawg
02-27-2017, 12:00 PM
They're probably trying to figure out how to win this press conference.

Truth be told, that presser is coming. Whether it's today or 2 months from now is irrelevant. The likelihood of him being on the sidelines come game 1 is close to 0%. They better have one hell of a rabbit to pull out of their hat...

They've got Matt Luke. Bearing the first and last name of apostles, how could he possibly go wrong?! LMAO That plus camping out in Reed's driveway everyday (against NCAA rules!) and orchestrating the hat toss - he's tailor made for Ole Miss.

Quaoarsking
02-27-2017, 12:00 PM
1 hour to go. Surely the OP should be banned if this turns out to be false?

Tbonewannabe
02-27-2017, 12:03 PM
I think he will probably coach this year. I'd put it at about a 75% chance he's still there Game 1. It's this time next year that he has about a 0% chance of still being their coach.

The university response and sanctions process will take months. If they haven't fired him yet, they're not going to until that process is over.

Don't they meet with the board about penalties this summer or is it pushed out again because of the amendment to the NOA?

Eric Nies Grind Time
02-27-2017, 12:05 PM
Just as I thought, IT ain't coming today. If you make a prediction like this folks, it damn sure better come true or your shit is toast with me.

Harsh lesson to learn. No one wants to be in Hot Rock's dog house.

MetEdDawg
02-27-2017, 12:09 PM
This is a two fold problem and they have two options:

1) Fire him now. You are probably doing this to help sanctions levied by the NCAA. Good move, except who is gonna take your job? You aren't getting a good HC.

2) Keep him, but take the harsher penalties. And to me this one makes more sense to OM. He knows the network and how it functions, which means he knows better than anyone how to modify it to not get caught in the future. It's too big an operation to shut down, so they will just modify how it operates. What better person to spearhead that than Freeze? Plus, instead of paying players all the involved boosters will now just send their money to the university to expedite the initial recovery process.

Now the only wrench here in plan 2 would be a Freeze show cause. That screws them big time. But they weren't going to a good bowl the next two years anyways. Why not keep Freeze in place, take the extra penalties, and just modify the network with Freeze in charge? Logistically that to me makes the most sense for them.

GreenheadDawg
02-27-2017, 12:10 PM
1 hour to go. Surely the OP should be banned if this turns out to be false?

Atleast a week vacation is warranted. Don't make a statement as fact unless you know it to be so.

Political Hack
02-27-2017, 12:13 PM
He's in hot rocks now!

Smoot, they received the NOA prior to the day of the video. The clock on the 90 days started a week or so ago. COI hearing will be in June, which leaves them another 3 months to hand down penalties.

Todd4State
02-27-2017, 12:24 PM
He's in hot rocks now!

Smoot, they received the NOA prior to the day of the video. The clock on the 90 days started a week or so ago. COI hearing will be in June, which leaves them another 3 months to hand down penalties.

I may not understand the process as well as some so forgive me but...

After the COI makes their ruling I would guess that Ole Miss would appeal the findings which would stretch things out into the season potentially. Correct? Or is the COI the final step in the process.

BrunswickDawg
02-27-2017, 12:25 PM
Looks like Preachermatt needs to handover the title of "Our own Rosebowl" to RealHastings.

JoseBrown
02-27-2017, 12:45 PM
He's in hot rocks now!

Smoot, they received the NOA prior to the day of the video. The clock on the 90 days started a week or so ago. COI hearing will be in June, which leaves them another 3 months to hand down penalties.

He may need to make the list for the week....

They certainly received it earlier than they said. And I wouldn't be surprised if something else is in the hopper. It just wouldn't surprise me if they don't get their COI meeting this year For some reason.

RougeDawg
02-27-2017, 12:48 PM
He's in hot rocks now!

Smoot, they received the NOA prior to the day of the video. The clock on the 90 days started a week or so ago. COI hearing will be in June, which leaves them another 3 months to hand down penalties.

If recruits knew about this latest COA, they had to have at least received before signing day. So they are already approaching the 30 day window at minimum.

blacklistedbully
02-27-2017, 12:51 PM
I may not understand the process as well as some so forgive me but...

After the COI makes their ruling I would guess that Ole Miss would appeal the findings which would stretch things out into the season potentially. Correct? Or is the COI the final step in the process.

The Division I Infractions Appeals Committee serves as the final step in the infractions process. Any school or individual who is penalized or named in a finding of violation may appeal a Committee on Infractions decision. The appeal is not a new hearing that provides a second chance to argue the case.

After committee reviews a written appeal or holds an in-person hearing, it can reverse or modify a Committee on Infractions ruling. In order to change a ruling, the school or individual must prove one of the following: the ruling by the committee on infractions was clearly contrary to the evidence; the individual or school did not actually break NCAA rules; there was a procedural error that caused the committee on infractions to find a violation of NCAA rules; or the penalty was excessive.

blacklistedbully
02-27-2017, 12:54 PM
Frequently Asked Questions
Is the Committee on Infractions part of the NCAA?
No, the Committee on Infractions is an independent body that decides if NCAA rules have been broken and what the appropriate penalties should be. Each case is reviewed by a panel of committee members to find the facts of the case. After a hearing with members from the school, other involved individuals and the NCAA enforcement staff, the committee concludes whether violations occurred and prescribes penalties.

How does the new penalty structure provide greater predictability and consistency?
There are many aggravating and mitigating factors that can impact how the committee imposes penalties. For example, multiple Level I violations, lack of institutional control, unethical conduct or other factors could result in tougher penalties. The committee could consider self-reporting of violations, cooperation during the investigation, meaningful corrective measures and other factors actions that could lessen the prescribed penalties.

blacklistedbully
02-27-2017, 12:59 PM
Division I Committee on Infractions

Legislation: The Board of Directors shall appoint a Committee on Infractions comprised of not more than 24 members to act as hearing officers in infractions proceedings of the Association. The Board of Directors shall also appoint one member of the committee to serve as chair and another member to serve as vice chair. If at any time the chair is unavailable to act as such, the vice chair is empowered to exercise the functions of the chair. There shall be no subdivision restrictions except that all nonpublic members may not be from the same subdivision. The committee shall reflect the Association's commitment to diversity. To the extent reasonably possible, the Committee shall include members from each of the following categories: (a) Current or former college or university presidents, chancellors or other senior institutional administrators (no more than three years removed from employment by a member institution or similar service at the time of his or her initial appointment); (b) Current or former directors of athletics (no more than three years removed from employment by a member institution or similar service at the time of his or her initial appointment); (c) Former NCAA coaches (no more than 10 years removed from employment by a member institution or similar service at the time of his or her initial appointment); (d) Representatives from conference offices; (e) University staff or faculty, including but not limited to faculty athletics representatives; (f) Athletics administrators with compliance experience; and (g) Members of the general public with formal legal training who are not associated with a collegiate institution, conference, or professional or similar sports organization and who do not represent coaches or athletes in any capacity.

Liaisons: Shepard C. Cooper, Joel McGormley, Dino Pollock, Matt Mikrut, Jim Elworth
Chair: Gregory Sankey (Sep 2014 - Aug 2019)
Vice-Chair: Eleanor W. Myers (Sep 2014 - Aug 2018)


*Eligible for reappointment
Division Committee Positions Title Name & Institution Conference Term
Expiration
FBS Chair Commissioner Gregory Sankey
Southeastern Conference Southeastern Conference AUG 2019
FBS Member Deputy Director of Athletics Melissa L. Conboy
University of Notre Dame Atlantic Coast Conference AUG 2017
FBS Vice-Chair FAR Eleanor W. Myers
Temple University American Athletic Conference AUG 2018
FBS Member Former President Michael F. Adams
University of Georgia Southeastern Conference AUG 2017*
FBS Member Provost and Vice President for Academic Joyce McConnell
West Virginia University Big 12 Conference AUG 2019*
FBS Member Senior VP for Student Affairs Thomas Hill
Iowa State University Big 12 Conference AUG 2018*
FBS Member VP for Athletic Compliance David Roberts
University of Southern California Pac-12 Conference AUG 2018*
FCS Member Professor/Dean Alberto Gonzales
Belmont University Ohio Valley Conference AUG 2017*
FCS Member University Counsel Sankar Suryanarayan
Princeton University The Ivy League AUG 2019*
DI Member AD Greg Christopher
Xavier University Big East Conference AUG 2018*
DI Member Chancellor Gary L. Miller
University of Wisconsin-Green Bay Horizon League AUG 2018*
DI Member Deputy Commissioner and Chief Operating Officer Vincent Nicastro
Big East Conference Big East Conference AUG 2019*
Member Attorney Jill Pilgrim
Pilgrim Associates AUG 2017*
Member Attorney John Black
National Federation of State High School Associations AUG 2017
Member Attorney Stephen Madva
Montgomery, McCracken, Walker & Rhoades, LLP AUG 2019*
Member Attorney William Bock III
Kroger, Gardis & Regas LLP AUG 2019*
Member Executive Director Britton Banowsky
College Football Playoff Foundation AUG 2017
Member Federal Energy Regulatory Commission Larry Parkinson
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission AUG 2017*
Member Former AD Joel Maturi
AUG 2019*
Member Former Head Coach Joe Novak
AUG 2017*
Member Former President Carol Cartwright
AUG 2019*
Member

Quaoarsking
02-27-2017, 01:01 PM
Tick tock

Todd4State
02-27-2017, 01:08 PM
The Division I Infractions Appeals Committee serves as the final step in the infractions process. Any school or individual who is penalized or named in a finding of violation may appeal a Committee on Infractions decision. The appeal is not a new hearing that provides a second chance to argue the case.

After committee reviews a written appeal or holds an in-person hearing, it can reverse or modify a Committee on Infractions ruling. In order to change a ruling, the school or individual must prove one of the following: the ruling by the committee on infractions was clearly contrary to the evidence; the individual or school did not actually break NCAA rules; there was a procedural error that caused the committee on infractions to find a violation of NCAA rules; or the penalty was excessive.

That's what I thought. And I would be shocked if Ole Miss doesn't appeal.

LockeDawg
02-27-2017, 01:09 PM
Frequently Asked Questions
Is the Committee on Infractions part of the NCAA?
No, the Committee on Infractions is an independent body that decides if NCAA rules have been broken and what the appropriate penalties should be. Each case is reviewed by a panel of committee members to find the facts of the case. After a hearing with members from the school, other involved individuals and the NCAA enforcement staff, the committee concludes whether violations occurred and prescribes penalties.

How does the new penalty structure provide greater predictability and consistency?
There are many aggravating and mitigating factors that can impact how the committee imposes penalties. For example, multiple Level I violations, lack of institutional control, unethical conduct or other factors could result in tougher penalties. The committee could consider self-reporting of violations, cooperation during the investigation, meaningful corrective measures and other factors actions that could lessen the prescribed penalties.

At what point does the NCAA Enforcement Staff deliberate and review the findings of the Allegations presented in the NOA?

PassInterference
02-27-2017, 01:13 PM
This is a two fold problem and they have two options:

1) Fire him now. You are probably doing this to help sanctions levied by the NCAA. Good move, except who is gonna take your job? You aren't getting a good HC.

2) Keep him, but take the harsher penalties. And to me this one makes more sense to OM. He knows the network and how it functions, which means he knows better than anyone how to modify it to not get caught in the future. It's too big an operation to shut down, so they will just modify how it operates. What better person to spearhead that than Freeze? Plus, instead of paying players all the involved boosters will now just send their money to the university to expedite the initial recovery process.

Now the only wrench here in plan 2 would be a Freeze show cause. That screws them big time. But they weren't going to a good bowl the next two years anyways. Why not keep Freeze in place, take the extra penalties, and just modify the network with Freeze in charge? Logistically that to me makes the most sense for them.


A wise AD, who is now famous in part for not hiring Hugh Freeze, said "what should be done eventually, must be done immediately".

msbulldog
02-27-2017, 01:23 PM
Vitter = Pickett , Freeze & Bdork = University Greys, Archie = Robert E. Lee , NCAA = Union Army at Gettysburg ........ CHARGE!!!!!!

And we know how that turned out.

msbulldog
02-27-2017, 01:33 PM
He's in hot rocks now!

Smoot, they received the NOA prior to the day of the video. The clock on the 90 days started a week or so ago. COI hearing will be in June, which leaves them another 3 months to hand down penalties.

Unless 1 of the other parties named in the 2nd NOA requests an extension like they claimed in the 1st NOA. That adds another 30 days, past June and probably pushes the COI into the fall.

Tbonewannabe
02-27-2017, 01:42 PM
What happens if it was push it into the fall and Freeze then gets the suspension or show clause?

blacklistedbully
02-27-2017, 01:48 PM
At what point does the NCAA Enforcement Staff deliberate and review the findings of the Allegations presented in the NOA?

During the COI. Think of the NCAA Enforcement staff as the prosecutor, UNM as the defendant and it's legal defense team, and the COI as the jury in a trial.

After the "trial", UNM can appeal, but the appeal would be to another set of people like the COI, and it would not be a new trial. This "appellate jury" would read, or hear UNM explain why, in their opinion the COI's ruling was clearly contrary to the evidence; the individual or school did not actually break NCAA rules; there was a procedural error that caused the committee on infractions to find a violation of NCAA rules; or the penalty was excessive.

Saltydog
02-27-2017, 01:48 PM
NT

Dawgology
02-27-2017, 01:49 PM
How DARE someone bring rumors and not facts to a message board!!!!!!!!1 !!!

RougeDawg
02-27-2017, 01:52 PM
Supposedly in the works but delayed a bit. So not completely false.

Dolphus Raymond
02-27-2017, 01:58 PM
Just got text about a possible news conference this afternoon. Can't confirm and no idea what about. May be nothing.

Cloak
02-27-2017, 01:58 PM
delayed a bit.

How delayed? Hours? Months?

msbulldog
02-27-2017, 01:59 PM
Nafoom is saying press conference at the Manning Center 3:00pm.

BeardoMSU
02-27-2017, 02:07 PM
Nafoom is saying press conference at the Manning Center 3:00pm.

Ole Neal say Freeze ain't resigning. He's been right before**

Dawgface
02-27-2017, 02:09 PM
Just got text about a possible news conference this afternoon. Can't confirm and no idea what about. May be nothing.

Finebaum will host the news conf and then turn it into an MSU hate show.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-27-2017, 02:29 PM
Don't know if he is resigning but I heard his wife is "resigning" from the marriage. To be announced this week.

msudawglb
02-27-2017, 02:33 PM
Don't know if he is resigning but I heard his wife is "resigning" from the marriage. To be announced this week.

All of you guys have misinterpreted these rumors....Hugh is not resigning....Hugh is re-signing....Gerald Powe. Going to use his 5 stars again to get the bears 17 recruiting class ranked ahead of MSU.***

RougeDawg
02-27-2017, 02:36 PM
How delayed? Hours? Months?

Looks like 3 pm. Got a text from a reliable source last night and just an hour ago.

Cooterpoot
02-27-2017, 02:43 PM
This ain't the first time Hue failed to pull out on time.

PassInterference
02-27-2017, 02:43 PM
So there's a PC in an hour and 15 minutes and no media knows about it? Is this another youtube press conference without the press?

And does Donald Trump know that these kind of press conferences are possible?

basedog
02-27-2017, 02:44 PM
Can't imagine a press conference with Hugh saying he will fight the Ncaa to the end. Take the money and run if I'm Hugh, live to fight another day.....maybe!

StoneDawg
02-27-2017, 02:50 PM
How do we watch it?

JDog13
02-27-2017, 02:53 PM
This ain't the first time Hue failed to pull out on time.

BOOSH

Dawgbite
02-27-2017, 02:54 PM
How do we watch it?

Drive to Oxford. Wear Maroon.

Anonymous
02-27-2017, 02:55 PM
I'll believe this when I see proof of it. An hour from the supposed PC and there is nothing about it anywhere?

LockeDawg
02-27-2017, 02:56 PM
Looks like 3 pm. Got a text from a reliable source last night and just an hour ago.Gotta wonder what the hell happened from the show of support for Freeze only 4 days ago, to him resigning today? Has the pressure gotten to him?

RougeDawg
02-27-2017, 02:56 PM
Drive to Oxford. Wear Maroon.

Might be the last drive of your life if you do that given their current collective state of mind.

Dawgbite
02-27-2017, 02:58 PM
Might be the last drive of your life if you do that given their current collective state of mind.

I think you might be safe as long as you don't have a ponytail!

JDog13
02-27-2017, 03:04 PM
Baseball and basketball press conference scheduled. Freeze scheduled tomorrow for normal fb presser.

TrapGame
02-27-2017, 03:05 PM
This ain't the first time Hue failed to pull out on time.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l3V0wkQ2KKcAeW8Cs/giphy.gif

Political Hack
02-27-2017, 03:16 PM
Baseball and basketball press conference scheduled. Freeze scheduled tomorrow for normal fb presser.

If is their women's coach, I'd still appreciate a link. He reminds me of that show about circus freaks.

Spiderman
02-27-2017, 03:23 PM
They've got Matt Luke. Bearing the first and last name of apostles, how could he possibly go wrong?! LMAO That plus camping out in Reed's driveway everyday (against NCAA rules!) and orchestrating the hat toss - he's tailor made for Ole Miss.


He would be 100% the most OLE MISS coach ever. He's a bigger fan than the average spirit poster and a cheesey goof ball to boot.

blacklistedbully
02-27-2017, 03:40 PM
Looking like a troll job. Folks, realize UNM fans are desperate to discredit the sources who have successfully exposed their deceit and cheating. Don't be too eager to post stuff you hear unless it's backed by a credible source, or at least offer a caveat in your post that your source may not be credible.

Political Hack
02-27-2017, 03:55 PM
Looking like a troll job. Folks, realize UNM fans are desperate to discredit the sources who have successfully exposed their deceit and cheating. Don't be too eager to post stuff you hear unless it's backed by a credible source, or at least offer a caveat in your post that your source may not be credible.

Yeah. Lots of crap being thrown around right now for sure. Hard to separate the crap from the legitimate info. However, if people have something to post that could be from a credible source just caviat it and explain that's is simply a rumor until proven otherwise. Happens all the time and when someth thing of this scale blows up, it's going to be crazier than usual.

Dawgology
02-27-2017, 04:28 PM
Sad part is they think these kinds of shenanigans help their case or something. At the end of the day no matter the shit they pull IT is still coming. There is NOTHING they can do to stop it.

starkvegasdawg
02-27-2017, 04:30 PM
Guess the bears are laughing their asses off. Yeah, you really got us. This more than makes up for the fact your program is about to be reamed out and all but dismantled. I guess having your program and school the laughing stock of college football is worth it because, by golly, you made people think there was a press conference this afternoon. Dumbasses.

Bully13
02-27-2017, 04:34 PM
They're still neck deep in shit with 55-20 tattooed to their foreheads. What a pu$$ified troll job.

Shitbirds.

Dawgology
02-27-2017, 04:39 PM
In some ways I hope the idiot doesn't resign and is somehow retained as head coach (though I don't see how he could be with LOIC and a highly probable show cause). Without dirty money he can't recruit and without bought high caliber players he can't coach UM to the mid-tier seasons he has been so far. He will be a lame duck coach and UM will be a guaranteed win every year for a decade. Hell, you see the impact that just the possibility of sanctions has had on him and his program...

On the other hand...if he leaves you never know what coach may show up. May be their next Tubbs.

Jack Lambert
02-27-2017, 04:46 PM
He would be 100% the most OLE MISS coach ever. He's a bigger fan than the average spirit poster and a cheesey goof ball to boot.

My question why did he not go to Ole Miss? He chose USM over Ole Miss. That should tell you something.

Cary Hudson's little bro
02-27-2017, 05:06 PM
If HF was resigning he should do it on a Friday to avoid news cycles...although they released that weird video on a Wednesday giving us two days to discuss...whatever

Bubb Rubb
02-27-2017, 05:14 PM
My question why did he not go to Ole Miss? He chose USM over Ole Miss. That should tell you something.

So did Hugh Freeze.

Todd4State
02-27-2017, 05:26 PM
In some ways I hope the idiot doesn't resign and is somehow retained as head coach (though I don't see how he could be with LOIC and a highly probable show cause). Without dirty money he can't recruit and without bought high caliber players he can't coach UM to the mid-tier seasons he has been so far. He will be a lame duck coach and UM will be a guaranteed win every year for a decade. Hell, you see the impact that just the possibility of sanctions has had on him and his program...

On the other hand...if he leaves you never know what coach may show up. May be their next Tubbs.

I agree with you. I want Freeze to stay.

I think I'm in the minority but I think Freeze coaches next year but that will be it. Of course I think he will get a show cause and that's starting to become obvious to even the Ole Miss beat writers. But the reason I think he coaches them next year is because I imagine that based off of their actions they are going to appeal the show cause.

Again I may be misunderstanding the process because I'm no NCAA rules expert but unless you can't appeal a show cause or you can't coach while appealing one I think he comes back.

Todd4State
02-27-2017, 05:28 PM
My question why did he not go to Ole Miss? He chose USM over Ole Miss. That should tell you something.

Luke went to Ole Miss.

Doggie_Style
02-27-2017, 06:06 PM
He gone. Will be made official tomorrow.

Can somebody just delete this thread already?

I seen it dawg
02-27-2017, 06:17 PM
Hell no. It's not over til we decide it is!

Lol

BayouDawg
02-27-2017, 06:22 PM
This is just like when they trolled us with the fake NOA because they thought there was no investigation. Then the real NOA(s) came out. It's gonna be funny when freeze does resign after this troll job.
Or "axed" to resign in Croomlike fashion.

louisvilledawg
02-27-2017, 06:24 PM
Hell no. It's not over til we decide it is!

Lol

WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR???

HELL NO

Maroons
02-27-2017, 06:37 PM
He's in hot rocks now!

Smoot, they received the NOA prior to the day of the video. The clock on the 90 days started a week or so ago. COI hearing will be in June, which leaves them another 3 months to hand down penalties.

Unless they get a 3rd letter between now and the COI ...

msbulldog
02-27-2017, 06:59 PM
Nafoom is saying press conference at the Manning Center 3:00pm.

I got seriously trolled, I apologize! After reading this thread at lunchtime, I jumped over to nafoom to see what they were saying. There was a thread saying "press conference at the Manning Center 3:00 pm" and I jumped back over here and posted the quote above before my lunchtime was over. Now that nafoom thread has disappeared and some a$$hat is on nafoom bragging about his trolling. I am very sorry for jumping on the moment and I apologize to every member of this fine board.

RocketDawg
02-27-2017, 07:04 PM
He obviously delayed resignation a day or two just to show that the ED thread was wrong. **

msbulldog
02-27-2017, 07:06 PM
I agree with you. I want Freeze to stay.

I think I'm in the minority but I think Freeze coaches next year but that will be it. Of course I think he will get a show cause and that's starting to become obvious to even the Ole Miss beat writers. But the reason I think he coaches them next year is because I imagine that based off of their actions they are going to appeal the show cause.

Again I may be misunderstanding the process because I'm no NCAA rules expert but unless you can't appeal a show cause or you can't coach while appealing one I think he comes back.

I think everybody in Oxfart is hoping Freeze stays. Bound to be an economic boon for them, I'm sure over the last 5 years the NCAA has spent a lot of money there, which will continue as long as Freeze is there.

starkvegasdawg
02-27-2017, 07:07 PM
I got seriously trolled, I apologize! After reading this thread at lunchtime, I jumped over to nafoom to see what they were saying. There was a thread saying "press conference at the Manning Center 3:00 pm" and I jumped back over here and posted the quote above before my lunchtime was over. Now that nafoom thread has disappeared and some a$$hat is on nafoom bragging about his trolling. I am very sorry for jumping on the moment and I apologize to every member of this fine board.

It's ok. Childish BS like this is literally all they have left. Pity them and laugh at them.

msbulldog
02-27-2017, 07:17 PM
It's ok. Childish BS like this is literally all they have left. Pity them and laugh at them.

Thanks Vegas.

GTHOM
02-27-2017, 09:02 PM
Its going to happen as a result of the NCAA deal. They know it. No coach is making it thru failure to monitor and LOIC without at least a lengthy suspension. Throw in the fact OM lied to NCAA. Rev. Freeze is about to be sacrificed Old Testament style

Spiderman
02-27-2017, 09:08 PM
My question why did he not go to Ole Miss? He chose USM over Ole Miss. That should tell you something.

Uhhh, Luke played at OM

lamont
02-27-2017, 09:26 PM
think he was talking about Freeze

BayouDawg
02-27-2017, 09:31 PM
Somehow the bearsharts have convinced themselves that this troll job has discredited Steve. The way their minds work is simply astounding

Maroon Wizardry
02-27-2017, 10:09 PM
Trolling with what would be a positive step for the program shows you how stupid they are... we should hope that freeze sticks around as long as possible and let the COI fire him permanently from coaching anything.

Turfdawg67
02-27-2017, 10:16 PM
It's ok. Childish BS like this is literally all they have left. Pity them and laugh at them.

75% of us didn't even believe this was happening today, but okay... "you showed us". LOL!!

Dawgology
02-27-2017, 10:26 PM
It's ok. Childish BS like this is literally all they have left. Pity them and laugh at them.

Childish BS like this is why they are in the trouble they are in. Kids trying to run an athletic program.

Political Hack
02-27-2017, 10:29 PM
Somehow the bearsharts have convinced themselves that this troll job has discredited Steve. The way their minds work is simply astounding

LOL at C34 got em' too! Then they got 2 real NOAs. Lmao.

That's a serious bunch of hard ballers over there!!!

Maroons
02-27-2017, 10:36 PM
Trolling with what would be a positive step for the program shows you how stupid they are... we should hope that freeze sticks around as long as possible and let the COI fire him permanently from coaching anything.

It really is a clown show with Bjork and Freeze. They can't help but make things worse for themselves, almost on a daily basis.

Political Hack
02-27-2017, 10:38 PM
It's a distraction tactics guys. They wanted us to quit talking about the affair rumors so they threw this out.

BayouDawg
02-27-2017, 10:51 PM
LOL at C34 got em' too! Then they got 2 real NOAs. Lmao.

That's a serious bunch of hard ballers over there!!!

I would really like to know what a psychiatrist would diagnose them with. It'd be an interesting case study for sure

FleaFlicker
02-27-2017, 10:55 PM
I would really like to know what a psychiatrist would diagnose them with. It'd be an interesting case study for sure

Narcissistic Personality Disorder with delusions of grandeur

dawgoneyall
02-27-2017, 10:57 PM
He obviously delayed resignation a day or two just to show that the ED thread was wrong. **

Doesn't have the dam built yet.

starkvegasdawg
02-27-2017, 11:23 PM
I would really like to know what a psychiatrist would diagnose them with. It'd be an interesting case study for sure

Egotistical elitest pricks with a healthy dose of immaturity and low self esteem.

RougeDawg
02-28-2017, 12:13 AM
Egotistical elitest pricks with a healthy dose of immaturity and low self esteem.

With two heaping portions of little man syndrome and penis envy.

Dawgology
02-28-2017, 08:34 AM
It's a distraction tactics guys. They wanted us to quit talking about the affair rumors so they threw this out.

So have the Hugh Freeze rumors on the affair been confirmed or is it still just rumor? Not saying it's impossible but it seems highly unlikely that a coach that has built his rep on being a preacher would screw a hair stylist at a beauty salon in Oxford and endanger everything he has built. That seems incredibly stupid. Even for him.

WSOPdawg
02-28-2017, 09:36 AM
75% of us didn't even believe this was happening today, but okay... "you showed us". LOL!!

That ^^^^ is exactly why I didn't post or comment about this crap when it was announced -- just seemed too good to be true. If it happens, great, but if it not, why not take a wait-and-see approach?

Dawgbite
02-28-2017, 09:58 AM
So have the Hugh Freeze rumors on the affair been confirmed or is it still just rumor? Not saying it's impossible but it seems highly unlikely that a coach that has built his rep on being a preacher would screw a hair stylist at a beauty salon in Oxford and endanger everything he has built. That seems incredibly stupid. Even for him.

A wise man once told me that " A hard pecker ain't got no conscience "



















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Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-28-2017, 10:11 AM
He gone. Will be made official tomorrow.

You feel like a dumbass yet?

BeardoMSU
02-28-2017, 10:12 AM
Is it sad this thread has 35k hits?

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-28-2017, 10:15 AM
I would really like to know what a psychiatrist would diagnose them with. It'd be an interesting case study for sure

Who is "them"? I think we're painting the whole fanbase with a broad stroke and we're only dealing with the fringe idiot fans on message boards and Twitter. I hate OM more than anyone but I also know a bunch of OM fans that are actually decent and are fully expecting to get hammered and are REALLY pissed off at the administration about it.