Women Go for the Title Game Thread

[TheRef]

Here we go. If we in this game, we clinch a share the SEC title. Kentucky has been the toughest team on the road this past decade for us. I don't know what it is about that coliseum, but we can't get over the UK hump in it. So let's hope we can overcome that against the Lady Wildcats and clinch this title. Also, if South Carolina loses to Texas A&M (Tipoff at 6:00 PM CT), then we clinch the title outright.

[ScoobaDawg]

No tv, on SEC Network + fyi.
I'll be streaming it from my phone. Want to win both of these so we get the best NCAA seed and the outright SEC title.

[Liverpooldawg]

This is the biggest game in program history. It's unreal what Vic has accomplished.

[TheRef]

If we get the title, it'll be the first women's team SEC title in our school's history.

[TheRef]

We are 7.5 point favorites. O/U sitting at 129.5

[WSOPdawg]

Any tv other than watchespn?

[preachermatt83]

This is a tough match up for us. Huge huge game. Vic shaeffer should be made the highest paid coach in the Sec as soon as possible. He got a nice bump to like 850k last year but I say give him more.

[WSOPdawg]

Go Dogs!!!

[TheRef]

Here we go, Gentlemen. Remember, the game will be online only.

http://www.espn.com/watchespn/player/_/id/2993064/

[RocketDawg]

Why does UK's women's team not get to play in Rupp?

[TheRef]

christ. Okorie called with a quick charge.

[TheRef]

Why does UK's women's team not get to play in Rupp?

I believe they only use the Rupp for MBK and Gymnastics

[RocketDawg]

I believe they only use the Rupp for MBK and Gymnastics

Seems kind of a slam against their program that they're relegated to some other place though. Maybe it's a scheduling issue, but I doubt it.

[TheRef]

4:55 1st

#3 Mississippi State 10
#22 Kentucky 2

Kentucky will be at the line for 2 coming out of the break. We are 2 for 2 from beyond the arc.

[RocketDawg]

Well, I WAS getting a good, solid signal. Now it's gone away several times and it's currently in low def (not even standard def) mode.

[ScoobaDawg]

4:55 1st

#3 Mississippi State 10
#22 Kentucky 2

Kentucky will be at the line for 2 coming out of the break. We are 2 for 2 from beyond the arc.

Dang ref.. you had 8 in orginal post i didn't know had started and changed your post

[LC Dawg]

Good start. Nice to see Vivians start strong.

[RocketDawg]

Vivians is off to a much better start than the last 3 or 4 games. Toward the end of the last game she came around and it looks like it might have stayed.

[LC Dawg]

Seems kind of a slam against their program that they're relegated to some other place though. Maybe it's a scheduling issue, but I doubt it.

I'm sure the crowd noise is much better for a women's game in Memorial compared to Rupp because of the size of Rupp. Memorial is probably about the size of the Hump.

[LC Dawg]

Nice job Morgan!

[TheRef]

End 1st

#3 Mississippi State 22
#22 Kentucky 18

[TheRef]

Dang ref.. you had 8 in orginal post i didn't know had started and changed your post

Sorry, man! I think I was looking at the USC game for the 8 PM start time. My b

[starkvegasdawg]

19-18 end first. We've committed 6 fouls to their 2, but we're 80% behind the arc.

[starkvegasdawg]

End 1st

#3 Mississippi State 22
#22 Kentucky 18

ESPN has 19-18. I like yours better.

[TheRef]

Mo's Buzzer Beater didn't count. ;3; By about .2 seconds.

[ScoobaDawg]

Points taken off. ball was still in hand. MSU 19, UK 18 end of 1st

[LC Dawg]

Nice job Morgan!
Never mind.

[TheRef]

4:21 2nd

#3 Mississippi State 23
#22 Kentucky 22

[TheRef]

17.0 2nd

#3 Mississippi State 31
#22 Kentucky 30

[TheRef]

Damn. Hard screen set by Okorie.

[TheRef]

HALFTIME

#3 Mississippi State 31
#22 Kentucky 30

[starkvegasdawg]

11fouls to 4. Are we earning them or getting the USCe treatment?

[RocketDawg]

11fouls to 4. Are we earning them or getting the USCe treatment?

Best I can tell, we're pretty much earning ours but some they commit are being ignored.

Let's hope we pick it up a bit in the 2nd half like we've been doing the last few games.

[TheRef]

And here we go with the 2nd half.

[RocketDawg]

ESPN has us as #3. What happened to the #2 ranking? Who do they have as 2?

[TheRef]

ESPN has us as #3. What happened to the #2 ranking? Who do they have as 2?

Coaches' Poll (USA Today) has us #2 because they release on Tuesdays, which was after USC lost. AP is released on Monday.

[RocketDawg]

Coaches' Poll (USA Today) has us #2 because they release on Tuesdays, which was after USC lost. AP is released on Monday.

We'd better be careful tonight or we'll drop to about 10.

[Saltydog]

tonight.......

[TheRef]

4:15 3rd

#3 Mississippi State 37
#22 Kentucky 39

Epps has gone off.

[curmudgeon]

tonight.......

We are playing fine. Some missed inside shots that we have been making but Vv is on tonight. We are taking the best shot by a top 25 team on their home floor on senior night.

[TheRef]

End 3rd

#3 Mississippi State 44
#22 Kentucky 43

[TheRef]

Who else is ready for Epps to graduate and leave?

[iPat09]

I am. She can't leave fast enough. I thought she had already left coming into this season.

[RocketDawg]

We're in big time foul trouble.

[TheRef]

4:14 4th

#3 Mississippi State 56
#22 Kentucky 56

Dom and TMac have 4 fouls. Dom is on the floor right now with those 4 fouls.

[Liverpooldawg]

We're in big time foul trouble.

So far our only loss was due entirely to SEC refs.

[ScoobaDawg]

Vivians 1/2 on ft and makes it UK 58,MSU 57
3:37 left

[TheRef]

3:37 4th

#3 Mississippi State 57
#22 Kentucky 58

[Liverpooldawg]

Looks like the refs are determined to make sure we don't win this one too.

[TheRef]

Dom, Mo, TMac, and Vivians now all have 4 fouls.

[RocketDawg]

Not looking good. Too many fouls being called.

[Liverpooldawg]

There is no way in heck that was a charge.

[ScoobaDawg]

Yea.... that was a charge indeed but damn that hurt. Come on girls. play SMART defense here.

[ScoobaDawg]

bad time for a bad pass...travel crap. under 2 minutes down 3

[Liverpooldawg]

Yea.... that was a charge indeed but damn that hurt. Come on girls. play SMART defense here.
So you can draw a charge if your feet are moving? That was probably THE call in the game.

[ScoobaDawg]

Williams back shooting ft's misses first damnit.
1:32 left
makes 2nd
msu 60, uk62

[TheRef]

1:32 4th

#3 Mississippi State 60
#22 Kentucky 62

[TheRef]

So you can draw a charge if your feet are moving? That was probably THE call in the game.

As long as you have "claimed" that place before the player leaves the ground, it's a charge.

[Saltydog]

I've seen this shit for 50 years.

[Liverpooldawg]

That one on Dillingham was total garbage. We won't be allowed to win this one. That is obvious.

[RocketDawg]

DD's foul just about did us in.

[Liverpooldawg]

I've seen this shit for 50 years.

BS, refs own this game.

[Liverpooldawg]

As long as you have "claimed" that place before the player leaves the ground, it's a charge.

Even if your feet are moving? The defender was NOT set.

[TheRef]

Even if your feet are moving? The defender was NOT set.

Your feet do NOT have to be set for a charge. Common misconception. Only time you have to be set is if you're moving horizontally.

[Liverpooldawg]

Your feet do NOT have to be set for a charge. Common misconception. Only time you have to be set is if you're moving horizontally.

She lunged into it.

[Coach007]

What was the first final?

[TheRef]

8.0 4th

#3 Mississippi State 67
#22 Kentucky 67

HUGE sequence coming up.

[Liverpooldawg]

This mid court advance crap is bogus.

[Saltydog]

f/t's to win it.

[Liverpooldawg]

Overtime. Great block from McGowan!

[TheRef]

OVERTIME!!!!!!

[RocketDawg]

Well, we have new life. I think we win it in OT.

[Liverpooldawg]

Overtime. Great block from McGowan!

Given how the officiating has gone can't believe they didn't sieze that opportunity. We still are in such serious foul trouble it's almost impossible to pull this out.

[RocketDawg]

This mid court advance crap is bogus.

Never heard of that rule. It should be changed.

[LC Dawg]

I'd love to have won it with a 3 on our last possession. We may lose too many players in OT. Love to see Vivians go crazy in OT and put it out of reach quickly.

[notsofarawaydawg]

Why in the hell do fouls just get ignored when the game is within 8 seconds of ending? That was a ****ing foul (push off with elbow) on that last drive. **** those striped shitbirds.

[LC Dawg]

That's complete bullshit on McGowan!

[tireddawg]

Ticky tack bullshit!

[LC Dawg]

That's complete bullshit on McGowan!
Ok. Never mind. Thought they screwed us.

[Liverpooldawg]

Still think the fix isn't in? They called that on McGowen and then realized what BS that was and called it somewhere else. Laughable.

[Liverpooldawg]

Do we have anyone who doesn't have 4 fouls on the floor?

[RocketDawg]

Lead by 2, for the moment.

[Liverpooldawg]

Hard to win win defense isn't allowed.

[smootness]

Absolutely inexcusable to have McCowan out there for that long doing less than nothing on the defensive end.

[Liverpooldawg]

Absolutely inexcusable to have McCowan out there for that long doing less than nothing on the defensive end.

She can't play defense. If she does a foul is called.

[LC Dawg]

Bullshit! Vivians was fouled.

[Liverpooldawg]

William was tripped. Still think we aren't getting jobbed? Even the announcers said it was a foul. We were not going to be allowed to win this.

[smootness]

She can't play defense. If she does a foul is called.

Who cares if she fouls out? You're worried she's going to have to sit? It's worse to have her out there just standing there. The utter lack of post defense the last 10 minutes of the game is the reason for the loss.

Atrocious decision to take that last TO there, too, btw.

[Saltydog]

her and score costs us this game. Yet neither she or Okorie fouled out.

[smootness]

her and score costs us this game. Yet neither she or Okorie fouled out.

Yup. Good thing we kept them in there!

[Quaoarsking]

We'll still be a 1 seed if we beat Tennessee and win the SECT, but if we don't, we probably won't unless others choke too.

[Bothrops]

Not allowed to win in basketball under certain circumstances. The college game has been fouled up.

[Liverpooldawg]

We have lost two games, both were screw jobs. The SEC wanted South Carolina to be the top seed from the SEC.

[smootness]

William was tripped. Still think we aren't getting jobbed? Even the announcers said it was a foul. We were not going to be allowed to win this.

So now the potential 1 seed is the one the conference wants to lose?

[Cloak]

Well....time to cheer for A&M

[Liverpooldawg]

her and score costs us this game. Yet neither she or Okorie fouled out.

The reason that she hadn't to let them do it was the refs, PERIOD. Don't blame it on her. It's ENTIRELY on the refs.

[Coach007]

That was a horrible travel call!

[smootness]

If we have the last TO, we get it at half court with 1.8 left with a chance.

[Liverpooldawg]

So now the potential 1 seed is the one the conference wants to lose?

Yep. Wait and see what happens in the Tourney, and Sunday.

[Goldendawg]

aTm giving SC all they want. 30 - 29 A&M with 4:22 to go in 1st half at A&M.

[LC Dawg]

That shouldn't have happened but it's not the end of the world.
It is ridiculous that McCowan decided to play no defense when she had 4 fouls. It was virtually 5 on 4 when Kentucky had the ball.
I will say that when you have the opportunity to win a conference championship you need to take advantage of it because you don't know how many opportunities you will get.

[smootness]

The reason that she hadn't to let them do it was the refs, PERIOD. Don't blame it on her. It's ENTIRELY on the refs.

I'm not blaming her. I'm blaming the decision to either leaver her in or not tell her to stop worrying about the fouls. There were a ton of possessions in that game, and she was called for a foul on 4 of them.

And again, who cares about fouling out if you're not playing defense anyway?

[Liverpooldawg]

That was a horrible travel call!

It was a trip, not a travel.

[smootness]

Yep. Wait and see what happens in the Tourney, and Sunday.

Ok!

[HereComesTheSpiral]

i swear they could have called fouls on Epps everytime she drove. We breathe on one of their players, foul

[Bothrops]

We will never win a championship in basketball, because it won't be allowed.

[Cloak]

It is ridiculous that McCowan decided to play no defense when she had 4 fouls. It was virtually 5 on 4 when Kentucky had the ball.

When it came down to the wire, this is the reason we lost.

[smootness]

We will never win a championship in basketball, because it won't be allowed.

We already have.

[smootness]

When it came down to the wire, this is the reason we lost.

Clearly.

[Liverpooldawg]

I'm not blaming her. I'm blaming the decision to either leaver her in or not tell her to stop worrying about the fouls. There were a ton of possessions in that game, and she was called for a foul on 4 of them.

And again, who cares about fouling out if you're not playing defense anyway?

She got two late that totally changed how she had to play down the stretch in OT. We had one foul out and three more with 4 BEFORE OT. Do you think that MIGHT have influenced the defense in OT?

[LC Dawg]

One of the frustrating things about McCowan playing no defense with 4 fouls is that for a while Okorie was on the bench with 3 fouls.

[Liverpooldawg]

One of the frustrating things about McCowan playing no defense with 4 fouls is that for a while Okorie was on the bench with 3 fouls.

I think they both had 4 in OT.

[LC Dawg]

I think they both had 4 in OT.

They did. I'm talking about the 4th.

[maroonmania]

Glad we've got the demise of the UNM football program to talk about because its been an absolutely terrible week for MSU athletics.

[klong-dog]

Yes it has. Just hope we can finish in style senior night. Was hoping we'd be sole SEC Champs.

[tcdog70]

What is up with Ro Johnson not playing more?

[Turfdawg67]

Ok, I'll admit I'm being negative, but not a shock. Geez...

With that said (and like a true State fan) maybe this will inspire us to win it all!! A late loss has always given motivation in BB!!

[LC Dawg]

Yes it has. Just hope we can finish in style senior night. Was hoping we'd be sole SEC Champs.
We've still got a shot. We should know the result of the Kentucky-SC game by tipoff of our game Saturday.

[smootness]

She got two late that totally changed how she had to play down the stretch in OT. We had one foul out and three more with 4 BEFORE OT. Do you think that MIGHT have influenced the defense in OT?

My point is that it shouldn't have changed how she played. If the worst thing about her fouling out is that she can't be in to play defense anymore, then who cares if she fouls out if she's not playing defense anyway? We subbed her out several times because she couldn't play defense with the 4 fouls...effectively fouling her out ourselves. So we subbed her out because she wasn't able to play defense, because if she did play defense, she might have to come out? That doesn't make sense.

The lack of a challenge in the post probably led directly to at least 10-12 points for Kentucky down the stretch. Had we contested those shots better, you're talking about probably more like 4-8 points, and we win. If McCowan fouled out at some point in the process, who cares? That's a much better outcome than her just standing there letting them score, which is exactly what happened.

[tcdog70]

My point is that it shouldn't have changed how she played. If the worst thing about her fouling out is that she can't be in to play defense anymore, then who cares if she fouls out if she's not playing defense anyway? We subbed her out several times because she couldn't play defense with the 4 fouls...effectively fouling her out ourselves. So we subbed her out because she wasn't able to play defense, because if she did play defense, she might have to come out? That doesn't make sense.

The lack of a challenge in the post probably led directly to at least 10-12 points for Kentucky down the stretch. Had we contested those shots better, you're talking about probably more like 4-8 points, and we win. If McCowan fouled out at some point in the process, who cares? That's a much better outcome than her just standing there letting them score, which is exactly what happened.

you are correct, anyone we played in her position would have been better, Hell, foul em they might miss. they weren't missing those Bunny's we were giving them. i would have rather someone shoot a 3 for the win and everyone else crash the Boards.