New TSUN Approach to NCAA Troubles

[Tailgate Superstar]

We are witnessing what happens when a wounded beaver is backed in a corner. A well coordinated smear campaign against MSU has begun. UM has moved into full attack mode with their friends in the media because fighting the allegations has become a lost cause. It has already began with Sallee's fluffcast with Freeze and has continued with Neal's most recent podcast. A lot of it will involve Leo, however, they will be attacking from all angles.

Just remember, we are not the ones under investigation. You would also think a University with a law school would have a little better understanding of how immunity works. They are in full deflection mode. Do not fall for it though because it is only a sign of true desperation.

[Homedawg]

We are witnessing what happens when a wounded beaver is backed in a corner. A well coordinated smear campaign against MSU has begun. UM has moved into full attack mode with their friends in the media because fighting the allegations has become a lost cause. It has already began with Sallee's fluffcast with Freeze and has continued with Neal's most recent podcast. A lot of it will involve Leo, however, they will be attacking from all angles.

Just remember, we are not the ones under investigation. You would also think a University with a law school would have a little better understanding of how immunity works. They are in full deflection mode. Do not fall for it though because it is only a sign of true desperation.

immunity covers the players and what they got from ole miss. period. that's it. Not the player for every other school, nor the other schools, including us.

[MadDawg]

immunity covers the players and what they got from ole miss. period. that's it. Not the player for every other school, nor the other schools, including us.

Who said immunity applied to every player at every school?

[Tailgate Superstar]

Not real sure what you are trying to say here but my original post didn't mention other players or other schools concerning immunity.

ETA This was for Homedawg.

[Jarius]

immunity covers the players and what they got from ole miss. period. that's it. Not the player for every other school, nor the other schools, including us.

If you think the NCAA is going to give our player immunity to tell on Ole Miss and then turn around and punish MSU because the school he ratted on turned over some tapes showing some stuff you are outside of your mind. That is not going to happen. The NCAA is not going to burn someone who just helped them out. That is flawed logic if I've ever heard it.

[Reason2succeed]

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[thf24]

If you think the NCAA is going to give our player immunity to tell on Ole Miss and then turn around and punish MSU because the school he ratted on turned over some tapes showing some stuff you are outside of your mind. That is not going to happen. The NCAA is not going to burn someone who just helped them out. That is flawed logic if I've ever heard it.

To add, the NCAA does not and cannot (according to its own policy) use immunity interviews for anything other than to confirm or corroborate information they already have. They don't bring a player in and tell him to spill everything he knows; they ask him about specific, predetermined things. The only way players divulged information pertaining to their recruitments by anyone other than OM was if they volunteered it without being asked, which would be incredibly stupid and very unlikely.

[Dawgology]

immunity covers the players and what they got from ole miss. period. that's it. Not the player for every other school, nor the other schools, including us.

Correct. But...if you see Ole Miss start trying to entrap or willfully sabotage other schools then you will see some movement by the SEC. Also, if the NCAA offers immunity and then turns on the kid and school they offered immunity too they will greatly hamper future investigations. Just food for thought.

[Dawgology]

If you think the NCAA is going to give our player immunity to tell on Ole Miss and then turn around and punish MSU because the school he ratted on turned over some tapes showing some stuff you are outside of your mind. That is not going to happen. The NCAA is not going to burn someone who just helped them out. That is flawed logic if I've ever heard it.

Exactly. Investigation 101.

[Acid mouth]

If you think the NCAA is going to give our player immunity to tell on Ole Miss and then turn around and punish MSU because the school he ratted on turned over some tapes showing some stuff you are outside of your mind. That is not going to happen. The NCAA is not going to burn someone who just helped them out. That is flawed logic if I've ever heard it.

Well Jarius, we actually agree on something. You are spot on here. If there's one thing I can stress to the bear lurkers, its that State didn't do this to you. Y'all did this to yourselves but the college blue bloods/powerhouses (Bama, Georgia, A&M, etc) turned you in. If we would've had any pull with the NCAA, Auburn would have been on probation for buying Cam away from us(the school he wanted to attend). It's also not our fault that you have to come to ED to get your information because your administration is about as transparent as a cement wall. It's also not State's fault that your lead beaver sent a tweet out welcoming this 5+ year colonoscopy.

[starkvegasdawg]

To add, the NCAA does not and cannot (according to its own policy) use immunity interviews for anything other than to confirm or corroborate information they already have. They don't bring a player in and tell him to spill everything he knows; they ask him about specific, predetermined things. The only way players divulged information pertaining to their recruitments by anyone other than OM was if they volunteered it without being asked, which would be incredibly stupid and very unlikely.

Unless your name is Tunsil and it's draft night.

[Homedawg]

If you think the NCAA is going to give our player immunity to tell on Ole Miss and then turn around and punish MSU because the school he ratted on turned over some tapes showing some stuff you are outside of your mind. That is not going to happen. The NCAA is not going to burn someone who just helped them out. That is flawed logic if I've ever heard it.
Never said they were coming after us. Just pointing out that immunity doesn't cover him w anyone else other than ole miss. Ain't to undestand. Yet several here can't comprehend it.

[thf24]

Unless your name is Tunsil and it's draft night.

Even Tunsil wasn't at the hypothetical level of stupidity as in this scenario; Tunsil was asked a question and he answered it. Admitting dirt on a school other than the one being investigated in an immunity interview would be like Tunsil just blurting out that he got paid at the post-draft interview without being asked a question.

[Political Hack]

We are witnessing what happens when a wounded beaver is backed in a corner. A well coordinated smear campaign against MSU has begun. UM has moved into full attack mode with their friends in the media because fighting the allegations has become a lost cause. It has already began with Sallee's fluffcast with Freeze and has continued with Neal's most recent podcast. A lot of it will involve Leo, however, they will be attacking from all angles.

Just remember, we are not the ones under investigation. You would also think a University with a law school would have a little better understanding of how immunity works. They are in full deflection mode. Do not fall for it though because it is only a sign of true desperation.

They're accusing State people of cheating now. When it comes out who they are accusing, everyone will get a good laugh about it.

[Jarius]

Never said they were coming after us. Just pointing out that immunity doesn't cover him w anyone else other than ole miss. Ain't to undestand. Yet several here can't comprehend it.
Then what was your point in even bringing it up? It may not officially cover us but it unofficially sure Does with Leo Lewis. The NCAA isn't dumb enough to burn our team after we gifted them a huge nail in the school they are investigating's coffin.

[RougeDawg]

We are witnessing what happens when a wounded beaver is backed in a corner. A well coordinated smear campaign against MSU has begun. UM has moved into full attack mode with their friends in the media because fighting the allegations has become a lost cause. It has already began with Sallee's fluffcast with Freeze and has continued with Neal's most recent podcast. A lot of it will involve Leo, however, they will be attacking from all angles.

Just remember, we are not the ones under investigation. You would also think a University with a law school would have a little better understanding of how immunity works. They are in full deflection mode. Do not fall for it though because it is only a sign of true desperation.

One would also think a law school would understand the laws surrounding libel, slander and defamation. They are already in the grey areas for some lawsuits.

[Mjoelner34]

If there's one thing I can stress to the bear lurkers, its that State didn't do this to you. Y'all did this to yourselves but the college blue bloods/powerhouses (Bama, Georgia, A&M, etc) turned you in. If we would've had any pull with the NCAA, Auburn would have been on probation for buying Cam away from us(the school he wanted to attend).

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Exactly. If we had any pull all of this would have blown up over CJ Johnson. The NCAA doesn't give a 17 what MSU says about TSUN or what they say about us because its a constant barrage of noise every year. They do however, sit up and listen when blue blood programs start pointing to the same school at the same time.

[Homedawg]

Then what was your point in even bringing it up? It may not officially cover us but it unofficially sure Does with Leo Lewis. The NCAA isn't dumb enough to burn our team after we gifted them a huge nail in the school they are investigating's coffin.
Here's why I brought it up. Because no it doesn't cover Leo. It covers Leo w olemiss but apparently stupid ass people like you can't comprehend that. Now will they go after Leo? Probably not because nobody would ever talk again. But if they choose he's not protected.

[Political Hack]

One would also think a law school would understand the laws surrounding libel, slander and defamation. They are already in the grey areas for some lawsuits.

The last thing they want is a lawsuit too. Open records request surrounding this issue would be a Pandora's box for the NCAA. They think others would burn with them, but when everything unfolded they're truly be forced to realize that their level of cheating is far beyond anything that anyone else is participating in, especially in the state of Mississippi. Theyd be fully exposed, all the way to the top. It would be a self inflicted death sentence.

[Jarius]

Here's why I brought it up. Because no it doesn't cover Leo. It covers Leo w olemiss but apparently stupid ass people like you can't comprehend that. Now will they go after Leo? Probably not because nobody would ever talk again. But if they choose he's not protected.

I know that. It still doesn't change the fact that they aren't ever going to do anything to us for anything Ole Miss gave them on Leo and us and bringing it up is pointless.

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Everything you ever wanted to know about immunity, but were afraid to ask.

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/DIENF_MembershipEnforcementResources_LimitedImmuni tyFAQs_20161220.pdf

[blacklistedbully]

Well Jarius, we actually agree on something. You are spot on here. If there's one thing I can stress to the bear lurkers, its that State didn't do this to you. Y'all did this to yourselves but the college blue bloods/powerhouses (Bama, Georgia, A&M, etc) turned you in. If we would've had any pull with the NCAA, Auburn would have been on probation for buying Cam away from us(the school he wanted to attend). It's also not our fault that you have to come to ED to get your information because your administration is about as transparent as a cement wall. It's also not State's fault that your lead beaver sent a tweet out welcoming this 5+ year colonoscopy.

None of this matters because the "last-line-of-defense" for them is doing everything they can to keep us down in an effort to at least "keep Mississippi", or their traditional portion. When it gets really bad, they at least need to know they have a shot at in-state-bragging rights, and the potential to rebuild on Mississippi recruits.

If they don't damage us as well, they are in danger of losing that last lifeline. So they will do their best to take us down, whether they really consider us responsible or not. It's also because of their arrogance. They just can't stomach the thought of MSU leaving them behind in football.

[maroonmania]

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[Liverpooldawg]

None of this matters because the "last-line-of-defense" for them is doing everything they can to keep us down in an effort to at least "keep Mississippi", or their traditional portion. When it gets really bad, they at least need to know they have a shot at in-state-bragging rights, and the potential to rebuild on Mississippi recruits.

If they don't damage us as well, they are in danger of losing that last lifeline. So they will do their best to take us down, whether they really consider us responsible or not. It's also because of their arrogance. They just can't stomach the thought of MSU leaving them behind in football.

THIS. A lot of us have been frustrated with Bracky, but he may be one of the reasons we survive this all out assault they are about to launch on us. IF we survive it. We better be crossing all the Ts and dotting all the Is because they will have PIs following every coach, player, and recruit. Deep down they KNOW we aren't responsible for their troubles, but that doesn't matter. They can't let us get ahead. That's why they started cheating like there was no tomorrow. Now that that is about to be nuked, they will fall back on trying to bring us down. We have to be ready.