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Indndawg
02-12-2017, 03:42 PM
How big will this weigh on the COI when they reach the punitive stage of the proceedings?

I see this as the biggest wild card and x factor and very well could be the difference OM football becoming the walking dead of the NCAA.

If us dummies from Mithithippi Tate can see it, its gotta be 20/20 to the brainiacs in Indy

DogsofAnarchy
02-12-2017, 05:48 PM
Well in the NEW language of the infractions reports there are the words "aggravating circumstances." You can look for that to replace LIC. Regardless, with all the evidence that has come to light and the aggravating circumstances, after key initial discrepancies were found in their Athletic Department, this case warrants that this is worse than the USC case and the new GOLD standard for modern enforcement cases.

WSOPdawg
02-12-2017, 06:00 PM
But as someone posted yesterday -- IF there is a university-paid employee who has been caught reaching out and gifting recruits in the within the past 4 months, look out!

Indndawg
02-12-2017, 06:07 PM
"aggravating circumstances" is very general and can mean what the enforcing body wants it to mean. Mississippi is beyond screwed when the NCAA applies this as a part of the matrix.

Corn Bread
02-12-2017, 11:49 PM
This could be fact.

maroonmania
02-13-2017, 10:38 AM
If UNM does not get a LOIC charge then the NCAA should just retire the term.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
02-13-2017, 10:59 AM
It was ironic listening to OOB this morning with Tommy Tuberville and he brought up the fact that OM had the most severe probation since SMU when he was hired. I guess some things never change.

sandwolf
02-13-2017, 11:15 AM
Well in the NEW language of the infractions reports there are the words "aggravating circumstances." You can look for that to replace LIC. The other phrase to look for is "culture of noncompliance."

From the NCAA official release on the Miami investigation:


The committee added that the failings of the university enabled a culture of noncompliance within the university and resulted in a lack of institutional control.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2013-10-23/sanctions-levied-against-miami-fla
(http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2013-10-23/sanctions-levied-against-miami-fla)

LockeDawg
02-13-2017, 11:21 AM
The other phrase to look for is "culture of noncompliance."

From the NCAA official release on the Miami investigation:



http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2013-10-23/sanctions-levied-against-miami-fla
(http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2013-10-23/sanctions-levied-against-miami-fla)
This thing spans multiple sports, multiple AD's and multiple coaching staffs over years and years. The Institution wasn't Controlling a damn thing ~ and the current coaches and compliance staffers Failed to Monitor their own employees and student-athletes while under investigation.

WSOPdawg
02-13-2017, 12:13 PM
The other phrase to look for is "culture of noncompliance."

From the NCAA official release on the Miami investigation:



http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2013-10-23/sanctions-levied-against-miami-fla
(http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2013-10-23/sanctions-levied-against-miami-fla)

A Rebel acquaintance of mine (won't really call him a friend) recently referred to their 'exemplary cooperation' as reason for the NCAA accepting their 9 over 3, and I threw it back at him to be watchful for LOIC based on LOEC (so there's another term to look for - LOEC).

I could tell he had a worried look about him when I mentioned the possibility of them being referred to as this generation's SMU.

Political Hack
02-14-2017, 08:20 AM
What's sort of ironic is they'll certainly be slapped with a loss of institutional control, but in reality they should be charged for having complete and utter institutional control. I find it hard to believe that the people in charge up there didn't either 1) ask for it to happen, 2) softly encourage it to happen, or at a minimum 3) know it was happening and did not want to stop it. To me, they should be charged with violations under "institutional influence."

What I do know is that the NCAA will have to rewrite the sanctions and penalty structure after this case.

starkvegasdawg
02-14-2017, 09:08 AM
What I do know is that the NCAA will have to rewrite the sanctions and penalty structure after this case.

We have the Nutt rule. Now we'll have the Freeze with his own section in the penalty structure.