2018 Recruiting Thread

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Ah ok then, makes sense. Strange how his rating is so far off of how every staff seems to have evaluate him. Even 247's 87 rating should land him some P5 offers better than Kansas,and that's the lowest any site has him. Wonder why they're so far off

[preachermatt83]

The suprise player is good! Very good!! And where he would flip from would make it sweeter BUT it is still unlikely.

[Todd4State]

Devon Robinson was the Auto Zone Liberty Bowl/Touchdown Club Memphis Defensive Player of the Year. Also TN 1st team All State. He finished the season with 72 tackles, 15.5 SACKS, 21.5 tackles for loss, and was credited with 28 QB hurries. You should pick a different hill to die on for Corione instead of Devon.

He also made the Team USA All-Star Game as well.

[BigEasyDawg]

The suprise player is good! Very good!! And where he would flip from would make it sweeter BUT it is still unlikely.

I have literally no inside info at all, but I am going to take a guess and say David reese at UF.

[BigEasyDawg]

I have literally no inside info at all, but I am going to take a guess and say David reese at UF.

OR Hyman from Meridian

[sandwolf]

OR Hyman from MeridianDid Hyman even play this year? Seems like I remember something happening and him sitting out or getting kicked off the team or something like that.....somebody refresh my memory.

[Doggie_Style]

The suprise player is good! Very good!! And where he would flip from would make it sweeter BUT it is still unlikely.


Why would you even post this?! Either divulge your rumor or post nothing. Such a joke...

[Bdawg]

Well who ever this mystery man is, I hope he is a stud true corner since he is on defense. I’m ready to have one side of the defense locked down and not giving up explosive plays.

[Big4Dawg]

Guessing it's Reese as well.

[msstate7]

Guessing it's Reese as well.

How would we have even got in on this kid? We are not listed on 247, nor penn state.

[Dallas_Dawg]

How would we have even got in on this kid? We are not listed on 247, nor penn state.
His brother plays RT for us for starters

[Really Clark?]

How would we have even got in on this kid? We are not listed on 247, nor penn state.

His brother playing right tackle for us is the in

[msstate7]

His brother plays RT for us for starters

Lol... yeah, I am not keeping up. Thanks

[msbulldog]

David Reese makes too much sense, Mullen and company could not move him from Florida, even though his brother is a Bulldog. Who was his lead recruiter from the country club boys? Somebody who is now at UF might have pissed him off and now he wants to go somewhere else. I am sure big brother Stewart has been in his ear.

Just looked at his 247 profile 4* 90+ looks good in pictures, not sure he is can not take 20th OLB. Have to see who we lose to sign him.

[Big4Dawg]

Florida thinks he's signing tomorrow. So will be interesting to see what happens.

[Ari Gold]

Hey Yancy. Be sure to tell Malik Ari Gold says hello when he officially visits next month.. **
you ****ing douche bag...

[preachermatt83]

Hey Yancy. Be sure to tell Malik Ari Gold says hello when officially visits next month.. **
you ****ing douche bag...

Man I hope u are right. Lotta folks tend to think he's not signing Tmr.

[Cooterpoot]

I don’t see Reese signing with us tomorrow. But, at least he’s listening. That’s more than Mullen got from him.
When Mullen lied to his brother and then moved to FL, that opened the door.

[Cooterpoot]

The big question is whether Lovett flips.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Did Hyman even play this year? Seems like I remember something happening and him sitting out or getting kicked off the team or something like that.....somebody refresh my memory.

Hyman was hurt all year, his first game was against us he played every game after that. Hes gonna be good esp when he gets some coaching. Hes a talented kid

[msstate7]

Man I hope u are right. Lotta folks tend to think he's not signing Tmr.

If he does not sign, think he goes elsewhere?

[I seen it dawg]

Hevesy finally recruiting for us after all this time....

[preachermatt83]

Hevesy finally recruiting for us after all this time....

^^^

[I seen it dawg]

Also....Heath to State

[preachermatt83]

If he does not sign, think he goes elsewhere?

I don't have a clue. My guess would be that C34 or ISID might know more on this one than I would.

[preachermatt83]

Also....Heath to State

Great news!! Tomorrow?

[Cooterpoot]

Per a subscribing friend, Mason is backing out on us.

[preachermatt83]

Per a subscribing friend, Mason is backing out on us.

Sucks but was Expected by many

[msstate7]

Per a subscribing friend, Mason is backing out on us.

Get Harris

[SmokeyDawg]

Per a subscribing friend, Mason is backing out on us.

Does this bring Harris back into the mix and was that Hev or Satan that Florida hired?*****

[Goldendawg]

Guys, have read every word of this recruiting thread since it was set up, BUT, it went to Hell in the Handbasket, a couple of days ago when it veered over to UNM recruiting and their progress or lack of such on this thread. Want to post and read that, please start a new thread, but not on this one. Appreciate the insight from IYOK, Ar, and many others. Keep up the good work! Things really looking great for tomorrow. Hail State!

[HoopsDawg]

Get Harris

Why?

[maroonmania]

Sucks but was Expected by many

Is he signing somewhere else or just not signing with us?

[preachermatt83]

Is he signing somewhere else or just not signing with us?

I heard Arky.. didn't he visit there recently? Would make sense

[msstate7]

Why?

I took that as we missed on mason.

[Cooterpoot]

He’s putting off signing to think it all over. With his friends going there and his coach pushing him, probably a matter of time.

[Irondawg]

WHY is his coach pushing to ark?

[Really Clark?]

WHY is his coach pushing to ark?

His coach is from there

[msstate7]

He’s putting off signing to think it all over. With his friends going there and his coach pushing him, probably a matter of time.

As a defensive player, who would not want to play for Chad Morris?**

[Bothrops]

Pushing a safety to Arkansas will ruin your transmission.

[Ari Gold]

Whop and Harris haven't shown any interest.. I don't know why people are still hopeful there

Just wondering if Jimmy is still with us.. ??

[sandwolf]

Hyman was hurt all year, his first game was against us he played every game after that. Hes gonna be good esp when he gets some coaching. Hes a talented kid

Gotcha, thanks.

[I seen it dawg]

Great news!! Tomorrow?

;)

[I seen it dawg]

Gonna be a great day. Today is the day you see the recruiters who are real and who are grinding. Get your guys in and roll. 16

[JimmyMcNulty]

Just wondering if Jimmy is still with us.. ??

Still here. just watching this class fall apart

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Is James Williams and J.Carvin part of the "great" day insiders? smh

[Okrastar1]

Is James Williams and J.Carvin part of the "great" day insiders? smh

Carvin hurts, but if you are worried about James Williams you are gonna feel real stupid in about 3-4 months unless there is a miracle like no other coming.... R E L A X......

[Ari Gold]

Williams juco
Carvin hurts
Whop / guidry / Heath .. huge

[JimmyMcNulty]

We need to find some OL and fast.. If not it will be another Sun Belt level OL class. Ari who you got?

[HoopsDawg]

Williams juco
Carvin hurts
Whop / guidry / Heath .. huge

The word is Coach Mo doesn't sign kids who aren't going to qualify. That's why we aren't even signing John Patterson.

[msstate7]

The word is Coach Mo doesn't sign kids who aren't going to qualify. That's why we aren't even signing John Patterson.

You really cannot afford to now with 25 hard count, can you?

[Commercecomet24]

The word is Coach Mo doesn't sign kids who aren't going to qualify. That's why we aren't even signing John Patterson.

I don?t mind this at all especially with the hard 25 limit coming

[StarkVegasSteve]

Anyone else noticed the official twitter account hasn't acknowledged the Whop signing? Do we have to wait til their papers come in to comment on it?

[Irondawg]

Any other explanation on Carvin other than big boy bryon D?

[mstatefan91]

Anyone else noticed the official twitter account hasn't acknowledged the Whop signing? Do we have to wait til their papers come in to comment on it?

I've been waiting on this too. Just says commit on 247

[LibraryDawg]

Anyone else noticed the official twitter account hasn't acknowledged the Whop signing? Do we have to wait til their papers come in to comment on it?
Yes, the paperwork has to be in hand and Bracky has to sign off that all of the duck are in a row before the school can acknowledge the signing.

[mstatefan91]

Yes, the paperwork has to be in hand and Bracky has to sign off that all of the duck are in a row before the school can acknowledge the signing.

Inb4 Bracky screws it up

[HoopsDawg]

Any other explanation on Carvin other than big boy bryon D?

UT signed his teammate and that pretty much sealed it. We just lost the battle.

[maroonmania]

UT signed his teammate and that pretty much sealed it. We just lost the battle.

Just weird that we lost Carvin and may possibly lose Lovett over package deals but looks like we are going to have plenty of room even if we only have 20-22 spots.

[HoopsDawg]

Just weird that we lost Carvin and may possibly lose Lovett over package deals but looks like we are going to have plenty of room even if we only have 20-22 spots.

Yeah, it's weird and confusing. I don't know why Winkel didn't have an offer 2 weeks ago. This ain't Penn State and we aren't in the big 10. A lot of people on here probably don't realize it, but Big 10 coaches didn't continue to recruit a kid once he committed to another big 10 school. That changed when Urban Meyer joined the conference, but it's still a different game than the SEC.

[ShotgunDawg]

Moorhead will be well like because he is personable but I’m worried sick about how relentless he’ll be in recruiting. He doesnt come across as the relentless flip as type and I’m afraid that’s what this conference requires.

[maroonmania]

Moorhead will be well like because he is personable but I’m worried sick about how relentless he’ll be in recruiting. He doesnt come across as the relentless flip as type and I’m afraid that’s what this conference requires.

Look, he will have to be an upgrade from Mullen. Relentless effort may have been Mullen's mantra but he certainly never adhered to that in recruiting.

[ShotgunDawg]

Look, he will have to be an upgrade from Mullen. Relentless effort may have been Mullen's mantra but he certainly never adhered to that in recruiting.

Hopefully.

[RezDog7]

Anyone else noticed the official twitter account hasn't acknowledged the Whop signing? Do we have to wait til their papers come in to comment on it?

Whop is in now per 24/7

[Irondawg]

Looks like Friend just outdid Johnson based on this report from the TN site. I still thing Byron helped though:

https://247sports.com/Gallery/Memphis-based-OL-Jerome-Carvin-commits-to-Tennessee-Vols-football-during-early-signing-period-112518508

[maroonmania]

Looks like Friend just outdid Johnson based on this report from the TN site. I still thing Byron helped though:

https://247sports.com/Gallery/Memphis-based-OL-Jerome-Carvin-commits-to-Tennessee-Vols-football-during-early-signing-period-112518508

Oh great, like we needed another reason to not like the Johnson hire.

[Commercecomet24]

Moorhead will be well like because he is personable but I’m worried sick about how relentless he’ll be in recruiting. He doesnt come across as the relentless flip as type and I’m afraid that’s what this conference requires.

I don't see that. Look at the background this man came from and his upbringing. Middle class, hardworking, blue collar. On the whole these type people are tireless workers, goal oriented and don't stop until they accomplish what they set out to do.

[HoopsDawg]

I Seent It said it last week. We have something brewing with a player that will be a NSD decision.
And he is a take no matter what the numbers are.

Well, I hope it wasn't David Reese bc he just signed with UF.

[msstate7]

Can we update this thread or scrap it in favor of Recruiting 2018 part 2? Who are the remaining targets for 4 spots?

[Cooterpoot]

We’ll have more than 4 spots.

[msstate7]

We’ll have more than 4 spots.

Yep. I looked at 21 commits, not 15 signees

[bulldawg28]

Moorhead will be well like because he is personable but I’m worried sick about how relentless he’ll be in recruiting. He doesnt come across as the relentless flip as type and I’m afraid that’s what this conference requires.

You worry way too much. These are teenagers broham. You are way toooooo emotionally invested. Calm down

[Todd4State]

Looks like Friend just outdid Johnson based on this report from the TN site. I still thing Byron helped though:

https://247sports.com/Gallery/Memphis-based-OL-Jerome-Carvin-commits-to-Tennessee-Vols-football-during-early-signing-period-112518508

Yeah...I would be pretty shocked that any recruiting article would mention the bagman that they used to land a player. Unless Stephen Godfrey wrote it.

[Homedawg]

We’ll have more than 4 spots.

We are basing it off of 5 spots. I would sign more. But they didn't ask me.

[HoopsDawg]

We are basing it off of 5 spots. I would sign more. But they didn't ask me.

We pretty much have to sign 4 or 5 more to get to 20. Then we would hold a spot for a Lovett or any other really good player. Technically, we could sign as many as 15 more. Hopefully, we end up signing and placing some guys since this is the last year we can do it even though I heard JoMo is against it.

[HoopsDawg]

UGA signed 6 five stars today. The rest of the SEC, signed 1. The Big 10 signed 6 total. Sick year from UGA and they just flipped a 4 star DB from Bama. I'm glad they are rolling off the schedule.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Ok Ari who is the mystery recruit

[BeardoMSU]

Ok Ari who is the mystery recruit

Dak is getting a 6th year**

[BuckyIsAB****]

Dak is getting a 6th year**

To play TE**

[Ari Gold]

Very soild early sign day
Got out Big 3 .. Whop Guidry and Heath
Only Big miss was. Carvin. We know what happened there. (The guy is a fat ****ing POS) And I said Tenn would be our issue.
J Will is a shocker but not really when ur dealing with slimy back door OM. We had a plan for the kid, OM doesn’t , have fun in Juco.
Got a nice surprise with Sh’mar Kilby-Lane . Like I said in another thread kid could be our next Rivers , Sweat, Abrams type contributor.. not you normal Juco guy.
And everyone pump the breaks on the commits that didn’t sign . We may lose a couple **** we may not lose any.

And one of my sources that told Me and I’m not sure if it was the same one that told I seen It.... the player was David Reese. And I think Paul actually reported this week he was expecting to visit. So we must have thought he wouldn’t sign early and I was told he was above 50/50 to flip. The same source that told me Whop was a dog months ago. So it was very reliable.

Over all very good day . We still have time to find another OL and looks like we are already on a couple . And also we need to find that CB that is SEC talented.
Im bearing Marcus Murphy will get a crack at that come the spring.

[Bully13]

Very soild early sign day
Got out Big 3 .. Whop Guidry and Heath
Only Big miss was. Carvin. We know what happened there. (The guy is a fat ****ing POS) And I said Tenn would be our issue.
J Will is a shocker but not really when ur dealing with slimy back door OM. We had a plan for the kid, OM doesn’t , have fun in Juco.
Got a nice surprise with Sh’mar Kilby-Lane . Like I said in another thread kid could be our next Rivers , Sweat, Abrams type contributor.. not you normal Juco guy.
And everyone pump the breaks on the commits that didn’t sign . We may lose a couple **** we may not lose any.

And one of my sources that told Me and I’m not sure if it was the same one that told I seen It.... the player was David Reese. And I think Paul actually reported this week he was expecting to visit. So we must have thought he wouldn’t sign early and I was told he was above 50/50 to flip. The same source that told me Whop was a dog months ago. So it was very reliable.

Over all very good day . We still have time to find another OL and looks like we are already on a couple . And also we need to find that CB that is SEC talented.
Im bearing Marcus Murphy will get a crack at that come the spring.

1. 17 DeVinner, 17 Taco Bell, 17 shitbirds.

2. let's get McDowell. don't like the odds of the others. like someone said, if they didn't bite today, not likely to land them in Feb.

3. David shoulda shown some brotherly love.

4. Thankfully we have cut and paste options for Sh'mar (great get, surprise gift)

5. My prediction is Marcus will be a corner and KO return dude. who was that ND (or was it MI) dude whose an announcer these days that won the Heisman back in the day? (17'd Peyton on that I think)...

[maroonmania]

1. 17 DeVinner, 17 Taco Bell, 17 shitbirds.

2. let's get McDowell. don't like the odds of the others. like someone said, if they didn't bite today, not likely to land them in Feb.

3. David shoulda shown some brotherly love.

4. Thankfully we have cut and paste options for Sh'mar (great get, surprise gift)

5. My prediction is Marcus will be a corner and KO return dude. who was that ND (or was it MI) dude whose an announcer these days that won the Heisman back in the day? (17'd Peyton on that I think)...

One thing I would say is that if a guy was committed to you and wouldn't sign today then that player should no longer be considered a real commitment at this stage.

[Todd4State]

Very soild early sign day
Got out Big 3 .. Whop Guidry and Heath
Only Big miss was. Carvin. We know what happened there. (The guy is a fat ****ing POS) And I said Tenn would be our issue.
J Will is a shocker but not really when ur dealing with slimy back door OM. We had a plan for the kid, OM doesn?t , have fun in Juco.
Got a nice surprise with Sh?mar Kilby-Lane . Like I said in another thread kid could be our next Rivers , Sweat, Abrams type contributor.. not you normal Juco guy.
And everyone pump the breaks on the commits that didn?t sign . We may lose a couple **** we may not lose any.

And one of my sources that told Me and I?m not sure if it was the same one that told I seen It.... the player was David Reese. And I think Paul actually reported this week he was expecting to visit. So we must have thought he wouldn?t sign early and I was told he was above 50/50 to flip. The same source that told me Whop was a dog months ago. So it was very reliable.

Over all very good day . We still have time to find another OL and looks like we are already on a couple . And also we need to find that CB that is SEC talented.
Im bearing Marcus Murphy will get a crack at that come the spring.

I could see Moorhead trying to get a grad transfer for the CB spot opposite Peters. That's an avenue that Dan never really used.

[ShotgunDawg]

Not getting Carvin was the biggest loss imo. It’s interesting to me how his mom, who lives in TX was more in on DeVinner and Tennessee than the Dad, who liked MSU, but actually lives in Memphis. Why was the person who lives in TX a bigger fan of DeVinner than the one that lives in TN? Was something funneled away from prying eyes?

My other disappointment was the guys that didn’t sign. Hopefully we fight for them.

[bostondawg]

Props to Ari for the call on Whop to State months ago. That was a ballsy call back then.

A grad transfer is a great idea for a corner. Which reminds me: wonder how Shaq Wiggins felt wasting his grad transfer year at Tennessee?

[Todd4State]

Not getting Carvin was the biggest loss imo. It’s interesting to me how his mom, who lives in TX was more in on DeVinner and Tennessee than the Dad, who liked MSU, but actually lives in Memphis. Why was the person who lives in TX a bigger fan of DeVinner than the one that lives in TN? Was something funneled away from prying eyes?

My other disappointment was the guys that didn’t sign. Hopefully we fight for them.

Money talks, relentless effort and strain walks.

[maroonmania]

Money talks, relentless effort and strain walks.

Even moreso when Devinner is involved. Memphis is one hellhole to recruit in.

[Commercecomet24]

Very soild early sign day
Got out Big 3 .. Whop Guidry and Heath
Only Big miss was. Carvin. We know what happened there. (The guy is a fat ****ing POS) And I said Tenn would be our issue.
J Will is a shocker but not really when ur dealing with slimy back door OM. We had a plan for the kid, OM doesn’t , have fun in Juco.
Got a nice surprise with Sh’mar Kilby-Lane . Like I said in another thread kid could be our next Rivers , Sweat, Abrams type contributor.. not you normal Juco guy.
And everyone pump the breaks on the commits that didn’t sign . We may lose a couple **** we may not lose any.

And one of my sources that told Me and I’m not sure if it was the same one that told I seen It.... the player was David Reese. And I think Paul actually reported this week he was expecting to visit. So we must have thought he wouldn’t sign early and I was told he was above 50/50 to flip. The same source that told me Whop was a dog months ago. So it was very reliable.

Over all very good day . We still have time to find another OL and looks like we are already on a couple . And also we need to find that CB that is SEC talented.
Im bearing Marcus Murphy will get a crack at that come the spring.

Was a very good day! Appreciate you, IYOK, I seen it and others that bring us some good reliable recruiting info. Thanks and let?s get a few more in the boat come February.

[msstate7]

Is Hamilton hall a real target? He is listed on 247

[Irondawg]

I thought Reese might have been the guy but just seemed like he wanted to go to UF all along so can't blame him, but that would have been nice.

You would think the opportunity to get early playing time in the SEC would be attractive to some of these CBs.

[preachermatt83]

Is Hamilton hall a real target? He is listed on 247

Yes. But I think he's OM bound. Just my opinion.

[bigplayslay]

1. 17 DeVinner, 17 Taco Bell, 17 shitbirds.

2. let's get McDowell. don't like the odds of the others. like someone said, if they didn't bite today, not likely to land them in Feb.

3. David shoulda shown some brotherly love.

4. Thankfully we have cut and paste options for Sh'mar (great get, surprise gift)

5. My prediction is Marcus will be a corner and KO return dude. who was that ND (or was it MI) dude whose an announcer these days that won the Heisman back in the day? (17'd Peyton on that I think)...

Charles Woodson. People have been saying Murphy is going to be like Jabrill Peppers 2.0. With his tape and what guys like Ari are saying, I'm all in on this guy

[Homedawg]

Not getting Carvin was the biggest loss imo. It’s interesting to me how his mom, who lives in TX was more in on DeVinner and Tennessee than the Dad, who liked MSU, but actually lives in Memphis. Why was the person who lives in TX a bigger fan of DeVinner than the one that lives in TN? Was something funneled away from prying eyes?

My other disappointment was the guys that didn’t sign. Hopefully we fight for them.

Carvin's mom came in the night before and took him to a hotel for the night. Prior to that he was a dog. His dad wanted him here, he lost.

[1bigdawg]

So are we going to go back to the sequestering of recruits for several days prior to signing day like in the 70s?

[Irondawg]

Carvin's mom came in the night before and took him to a hotel for the night. Prior to that he was a dog. His dad wanted him here, he lost.

Seriously? If you notice Byron only tweeter her - not the dad (no idea if he has twitter), but this why i hate recruiting most of the time

[Bully13]

Carvin's mom came in the night before and took him to a hotel for the night. Prior to that he was a dog. His dad wanted him here, he lost.

That sux ass. Hopefully our new guys got a crash course on southern networking. Growing pains and shit. Welcome to the dirty shit down south new guys. There's a new word of you need to add to your vocabulary. Its called "heppin".

[ShotgunDawg]

Carvin's mom came in the night before and took him to a hotel for the night. Prior to that he was a dog. His dad wanted him here, he lost.

Boy, between Carvin & Cole Smith, we really got the shaft on OL moms this year.

Goes to show you, you've got to win over the mom. She is the number 1 decision maker.

Women are ferocious & won't give in while men will give in just to make the woman stop screaming

[msstate7]

Boy, between Carvin & Cole Smith, we really got the shaft on OL moms this year.

Goes to show you, you've got to win over the mom. She is the number 1 decision maker.

Women are ferocious & won't give in while men will give in just to make the woman stop screaming

And carvin did not even live with his mom. Seems dad would have had more weight

[maroonmania]

Boy, between Carvin & Cole Smith, we really got the shaft on OL moms this year.

Goes to show you, you've got to win over the mom. She is the number 1 decision maker.

Women are ferocious & won't give in while men will give in just to make the woman stop screaming

Speaking of Cole, now that he is signed, sealed and delivered to Cajun country can someone shed some light on why his Mom evidently would NOT want him at MSU? I don't understand why any Mother would want to send her kids several hours further away from home just so he wouldn't go to MSU. I don't need gory details just trying to understand a very odd situation of a legacy kid that from all I can tell, grew up cheering for MSU.

[Bully13]

Speaking of Cole, now that he is signed, sealed and delivered to Cajun country can someone shed some light on why his Mom evidently would NOT want him at MSU? I don't understand why any Mother would want to send her kids several hours further away from home just so he wouldn't go to MSU. I don't need gory details just trying to understand a very odd situation of a legacy kid that from all I can tell, grew up cheering for MSU.
Good, solid question. Its a WTF is up with that.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Props to Ari for the call on Whop to State months ago. That was a ballsy call back then.

A grad transfer is a great idea for a corner. Which reminds me: wonder how Shaq Wiggins felt wasting his grad transfer year at Tennessee?

I heard Whop was coming the day Key signed.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

SS....

[archdawg]

I know this has been mentioned by several, but haven't seen anything for it - can we get an update to the OP here? I would be interested to see what the big board might look like for the remainder of this recruiting cycle. I know we can also remove a bunch of names of folks that signed elsewhere.

[msstate7]

I heard Whop was coming the day Key signed.

Love the avatar haha

[BrunswickDawg]

Love the avatar haha

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/e1/e19befb666251da073776389e1f70c63272d85012f5b07d220 9dda1855f1c1d5.jpg

[Ari Gold]

Speaking of Cole, now that he is signed, sealed and delivered to Cajun country can someone shed some light on why his Mom evidently would NOT want him at MSU? I don't understand why any Mother would want to send her kids several hours further away from home just so he wouldn't go to MSU. I don't need gory details just trying to understand a very odd situation of a legacy kid that from all I can tell, grew up cheering for MSU.

Hevesy and Momma ..

[maroonmania]

Hevesy and Momma ..

Figured that was a big sticking point but after Hevesy was out of the picture it didn't make sense why she would still be pushing LSU (as it was implied). If the coaching staff was the main driver for not going to MSU and then they were all gone AND the OL position coach left LSU one would have thought we would have at least gotten the visit.

[Bully13]

Figured that was a big sticking point but after Hevesy was out of the picture it didn't make sense why she would still be pushing LSU (as it was implied). If the coaching staff was the main driver for not going to MSU and then they were all gone AND the OL position coach left LSU one would have thought we would have at least gotten the visit.

maybe Cole decided to stick with his commitment. sux for us but that' just a guess on my part.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/e1/e19befb666251da073776389e1f70c63272d85012f5b07d220 9dda1855f1c1d5.jpg

ha..might as well

[Ari Gold]

I heard Whop was coming the day Key signed.

Ok..

[msstate7]

Lots of Jaylon reed CBs to Memphis. If this happens, does it help us hold Lovett?

[HoopsDawg]

Damn, Turnage commits to Bama. Best corner in the state as a junior.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Damn, Turnage commits to Bama. Best corner in the state as a junior.

Bama hasn't had good luck in holding early MS kids commitments We'll see if this 1 sticks.

[HoopsDawg]

Lots of Jaylon reed CBs to Memphis. If this happens, does it help us hold Lovett?

nah, reed was never going to Ole Miss. With Brian Baker on staff, I have no idea why we are struggling to secure Lovett. He could redshirt and compete to replace Jeff Simmons and Cory Thomas who will be leaving after next season.

[Todd4State]

nah, reed was never going to Ole Miss. With Brian Baker on staff, I have no idea why we are struggling to secure Lovett. He could redshirt and compete to replace Jeff Simmons and Cory Thomas who will be leaving after next season.

Could just be poor ol MSU attitude from our fans.

[HoopsDawg]

Could just be poor ol MSU attitude from our fans.

the guys that really follow recruiting say it's going to be a battle. OM is really preaching early playing time and it worked well enough for him to postpone his signing.

[Bdawg]

Bama hasn't had good luck in holding early MS kids commitments We'll see if this 1 sticks.

Yeah I’m sure they will find a 5 star somewhere eventually and then Turnage can come on back home.

[Bothrops]

the guys that really follow recruiting say it's going to be a battle. OM is really preaching early playing time and it worked well enough for him to postpone his signing.

I can't imagine a DL player with no ties choosing OM over MSU. We've been putting them in the NFL for years.

[maroonmania]

the guys that really follow recruiting say it's going to be a battle. OM is really preaching early playing time and it worked well enough for him to postpone his signing.

Well, if he goes to OM he will be competing with a lot of guys as well. OM just signed 4 HS DTs and 1 JUCO DT last week. Our interior DL will have plenty of openings after next year.

[HoopsDawg]

Well, if he goes to OM he will be competing with a lot of guys as well. OM just signed 4 HS DTs and 1 JUCO DT last week. Our interior DL will have plenty of openings after next year.

Yes, I would love our depth chart if I was a high school senior. Great chance to redshirt and play as a redshirt freshman.

[ShotgunDawg]

Yes, I would love our depth chart if I was a high school senior. Great chance to redshirt and play as a redshirt freshman.

No doubt. Hopefully Lovett is smart enough to see this. James Williams sure as hell wasn't

Yesterday Alabama signed Bobby Brown a DL from the Dallas area. In an article on SEC Country today he was quoted saying the following:

Brown is also aware that Alabama is in need of several linemen in this class. The Tide signed 4-star prospects Christian Barmore and Stephon Wynn on Wednesday. But early playing time isn?t a necessity to him. He knows wherever he goes that he?ll have to put in the work to see the field.

?Early playing time is guaranteed to nobody,? Brown said. ?Coaches can say that and it may not be true. So, that?s not a factor for me at all. When coaches tell me that, it goes in one ear and out the other.?

[msbulldog]

Bobby Brown jilted aTm.

[jacksondawg]

Aaron Brule decommitted from Georgia today. Is there any chance there?

[Bully13]

Aaron Brule decommitted from Georgia today. Is there any chance there?

Interesting. Louisiana safety prospect.

[preachermatt83]

Aaron Brule decommitted from Georgia today. Is there any chance there?

TCU is my guess.

[Bdawg]

Would you rather have Brule or other safety from AL( can’t recall his name right now)?

[msbulldog]

Would you rather have Brule or other safety from AL( can’t recall his name right now)?

Myles Mason

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

TCU is my guess.

is that what their insiders are saying?*

[preachermatt83]

is that what their insiders are saying?*

Last I saw it was.

[Ari Gold]

Look for the new staff to make a push for Rayshad Williams CB. Teammate of Devon Robinson.
Williams is a Vandy commit didn’t sign early.

[ShotgunDawg]

Look for the new staff to make a push for Rayshad Williams CB. Teammate of Devon Robinson.
Williams is a Vandy commit didn’t sign early.

Yeah, would be a great get.

https://247sports.com/Player/Rayshad-Williams-46037119

[msstate7]

Look for the new staff to make a push for Rayshad Williams CB. Teammate of Devon Robinson.
Williams is a Vandy commit didn’t sign early.

Are we down to this kid and trying to hold on to current commits?

[HoopsDawg]

Look for the new staff to make a push for Rayshad Williams CB. Teammate of Devon Robinson.
Williams is a Vandy commit didn’t sign early.

Woodson should have a relationship with this kid.

[Commercecomet24]

Look for the new staff to make a push for Rayshad Williams CB. Teammate of Devon Robinson.
Williams is a Vandy commit didn?t sign early.

Kid has some nice length. Tall and lanky.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Woodson should have a relationship with this kid.

Yep he does. Would be a very nice pickup.

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7929702/5a1e0e4f64e9bc0cfcfba9be

[HoopsDawg]

Yep he does. Would be a very nice pickup.

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7929702/5a1e0e4f64e9bc0cfcfba9be

I'm sold. He could be a real advantage at corner with that height and if it doesn't work out looks like he could play FS.

[hacker]

I thought we didn't need any more CBs, which is why Harris lost his spot?

[jumbo]

For the 1239807529837489 time. Harris is a S

[HoopsDawg]

I thought we didn't need any more CBs, which is why Harris lost his spot?

We signed O corners this year so far. We signed 1 corner last year. It's the biggest position of need on the roster.

[Bully13]

We signed O corners this year so far. We signed 1 corner last year. It's the biggest position of need on the roster.

Buzz kill. I guess we'll take an extra 2nd off the qb's time in the pocket to compensate for our suckage in the 2ndary by having baddasses on the DL.

[HoopsDawg]

Buzz kill. I guess we'll take an extra 2nd off the qb's time in the pocket to compensate for our suckage in the 2ndary by having baddasses on the DL.

Yeah, regardless of who we sign at this point, we have 4 corners going into next season. I would rank them:

1. Jamal Peters
2. Cam Dantler
3. Tyler Williams-redshirt freshman
4. Chris Rayford

We need these guys to raise their games in the spring and the offseason. Then you have a couple of guys like Cole, Marcus Muprhy, and Landrews who may can compete at corner.

[Bothrops]

What about Smitherman? Is he coming back?

[ATTILLA THE DOG]

Yeah, regardless of who we sign at this point, we have 4 corners going into next season. I would rank them:

1. Jamal Peters
2. Cam Dantler
3. Tyler Williams-redshirt freshman
4. Chris Rayford

We need these guys to raise their games in the spring and the offseason. Then you have a couple of guys like Cole, Marcus Muprhy, and Landrews who may can compete at corner.

some say cole is the best corner on the team

[BankerDog]

I thought we didn't need any more CBs, which is why Harris lost his spot?

Harris is a safety in a corner's frame.

[HoopsDawg]

some say cole is the best corner on the team

I've only heard that from message board posters, but I hope it's true. I think he was in line to take over for JT Gray if Grantham was still here. I've always looked at him as a safety. He is an aggressive hitter.

[Bothrops]

Also isn t Korey Charles in the rotation?

[Ari Gold]

Just so everyone can chill a little here are the facts.
We signed the best players in the state at
WR .. Heath
OL.. Dolla Bill
DL .. Crumedy
Athlete and best all around player.. Murphy
Best TE... Cumbest
Best LB... Johnson
Best CB ( if he signs and we take ) .... Furdge

And to add the best Juco in the state and Number 1 Juco WR in the country.

****ing spin that UM...

[Commercecomet24]

Just so everyone can chill a little here are the facts.
We signed the best players in the state at
WR .. Heath
OL.. Dolla Bill
DL .. Crumedy
Athlete and best all around player.. Murphy
Best TE... Cumbest
Best LB... Johnson
Best CB ( if he signs and we take ) .... Furdge

And to add the best Juco in the state and Number 1 Juco WR in the country.

****ing spin that UM...

Thank you! Great post!

[BeardoMSU]

Just so everyone can chill a little here are the facts.
We signed the best players in the state at
WR .. Heath
OL.. Dolla Bill
DL .. Crumedy
Athlete and best all around player.. Murphy
Best TE... Cumbest
Best LB... Johnson
Best CB ( if he signs and we take ) .... Furdge

And to add the best Juco in the state and Number 1 Juco WR in the country.

****ing spin that UM...

Great post, Ari.

Can we make that into picture and force people who freak out over OM make it their ED avatar? Seriously.

[Goldendawg]

Just so everyone can chill a little here are the facts.
We signed the best players in the state at
WR .. Heath
OL.. Dolla Bill
DL .. Crumedy
Athlete and best all around player.. Murphy
Best TE... Cumbest
Best LB... Johnson
Best CB ( if he signs and we take ) .... Furdge

And to add the best Juco in the state and Number 1 Juco WR in the country.

****ing spin that UM...

I agree and who do you think we add in Feb? And thanks for your and IYOK's insight.

[ShotgunDawg]

So Ole Miss is likely going to sign Lovett, Hyman, and Williams all on the basis of early playing time, while all we are going to get Crumedy?

Interesting

[Ari Gold]

So Ole Miss is likely going to sign Lovett, Hyman, and Williams all on the basis of early playing time, while all we are going to get Crumedy?

Interesting

The playing time narrative is bullshit. Let’s just put that to rest.
If that’s the case , they are signing like 7 DL . We graduate and lose prob 5 guys so all the 2019 DL in the State sign here in 2019 playing time.
See how easy that was..

[ShotgunDawg]

The playing time narrative is bullshit. Let’s just put that to rest.
If that’s the case , they are signing like 7 DL . We graduate and lose prob 5 guys so all the 2019 DL in the State sign here in 2019 playing time.
See how easy that was..

So what's the deal then?

BTW, I know it's BS. Just repeating what has been reported & how ridiculous it is.

Ari, what did Williams & Lovett get?

[Ari Gold]

So what's the deal then?

BTW, I know it's BS. Just repeating what has been reported & how ridiculous it is.

Ari, what did Williams & Lovett get?

I have no clue. It’s the beautiful campus it’s why they get all the guys there.

Just chill and and enjoy what we have. Remeber their head coach is Matt Luke. It’s all good.

[ShotgunDawg]

I have no clue. It’s the beautiful campus it’s why they get all the guys there.

Just chill and and enjoy what we have. Remeber their head coach is Matt Luke. It’s all good.

I'm not worried about them as far as how good they will be. I'm worried that they will buy off the depth we need to win big

[Ifyouonlyknew]

With Elliss looking likely to make it this summer I'm not sure I offer another DL this class. I'm already selling Moore, Pickering, Russell, Harris, & Handy on playing as true freshmen in 2019.

[HoopsDawg]

With Elliss looking likely to make it this summer I'm not sure I offer another DL this class. I'm already selling Moore, Pickering, Russell, Harris, & Handy on playing as true freshmen in 2019.

Agree. There's not another quality DT to go after this year. We need to be all over those guys you mentioned.

[Commercecomet24]

With Elliss looking likely to make it this summer I'm not sure I offer another DL this class. I'm already selling Moore, Pickering, Russell, Harris, & Handy on playing as true freshmen in 2019.

If Elliss gets in that would be awesome!

[maroonmania]

I'm not worried about them as far as how good they will be. I'm worried that they will buy off the depth we need to win big

Exactly, this has to do with guys that we are NOT signing that have been committed to us for months and now having to find replacements. We all know that overall the Bear class is not SEC quality even with a couple of flips. I agree that if we get Ellis in then that takes away a lot of the sting of losing Lovett and Williams.

[msstate7]

Will Aaron Odom be an impact guy?

[Goldendawg]

If UMN signs Hyman and Lovett in this class, they will have indeed signed 7 DL, ranked .843 or better by 24/7. That's a lot of playing time promised to Freshmen, but their D was bad. We didn't offer all, but lessened some of the locals available. We better clean up in 2019, and the Network didn't stop except to reload. Hail State!

[ShotgunDawg]

If UMN signs Hyman and Lovett in this class, they will have indeed signed 7 DL, ranked .843 or better by 24/7. That's a lot of playing time promised to Freshmen,

Funny right?

Yet, our DL depth clears out in 2019 but for some reason it's all about playing in 2018. Ridiculous

[Goldendawg]

Funny right?

Yet, our DL depth clears out in 2019 but for some reason it's all about playing in 2018. Ridiculous

Yeah, they sign 7 DL with limited scholarships available, meet their needs and flip two and hurt our depth in the process. Looks pretty fishy to me. Must have redecorated the grove since they were not eligible for a bowl. I'm projecting Hyman and Lovett in the 7. I don't know if any of these have juco issues.

[maroonmania]

Funny right?

Yet, our DL depth clears out in 2019 but for some reason it's all about playing in 2018. Ridiculous

Well, they have to give some lame reason and they can't really say the real reason.

[Goldendawg]

I wouldn't trade any of our 15 signees for theirs, but their recruiting is far from crippled for '18. They are now at 35 on 24/7 and will move up in Feb. Thanks for nothing NCAA and welcome to the Wild, Wild West. It slowed them down from top 10 or 5 classes, but the "news of the Network's death was greatly exaggerated". We better work even harder and stay alert! Hail State!

[ShotgunDawg]

I wouldn't trade any of our 15 signees for theirs, but their recruiting is far from crippled for '18. They are now at 35 on 24/7 and will move up in Feb. Thanks for nothing NCAA and welcome to the Wild, Wild West. It slowed them down from top 10 or 5 classes, but the "news of the Network's death was greatly exaggerated". We better work even harder and stay alert! Hail State!

Probably a ridiculous conspiracy but I've wondered if the COI let up on OM due to not wanting MSU to have run of the state of MS?

I wonder if they received some pressure to go just hard enough to deter OM but not hard enough to give MSU a real advantage?

[Goldendawg]

Probably a ridiculous conspiracy but I've wondered if the COI let up on OM due to not wanting MSU to have run of the state of MS?

I wonder if they received some pressure to go just hard enough to deter OM but not hard enough to give MSU a real advantage?

Well, I'm not looking for black helicopters, but they could end up with 7 DL from MS/Al with two MSU flips in their "limited" class.

[ShotgunDawg]

Well, I'm not looking for black helicopters, but they could end up with 7 DL from MS/Al with two MSU flips in their "limited" class.

Williams & Hyman weren't in the MS/AL game

[Goldendawg]

Williams & Hyman weren't in the MS/AL game

I meant they could have 7 DL signees from the states of Ms and Al in the '18 class.

[Bothrops]

I'm more worried about the '19 class and Ole Miss. We need DT's to come in and be ready to play in a couple of years after we lose nearly all our production. The whores are going to be dressing down for our '19 commits, and I could see a potential recruiting disaster unfolding again. We could be left out to dry. It's business as usual, and the whores are the same today as they were yesterday.

[Todd4State]

Funny right?

Yet, our DL depth clears out in 2019 but for some reason it's all about playing in 2018. Ridiculous

That should make it even easier on us to recruit Moore (already verbally committed) and Pickering.

[Todd4State]

Will Aaron Odom be an impact guy?

I bet he's a solid player at worst. The guy put up some huge stats at Callaway and was just a 3 star.

[Todd4State]

I'm more worried about the '19 class and Ole Miss. We need DT's to come in and be ready to play in a couple of years after we lose nearly all our production. The whores are going to be dressing down for our '19 commits, and I could see a potential recruiting disaster unfolding again. We could be left out to dry. It's business as usual, and the whores are the same today as they were yesterday.

Remember this:

Per rumor one of the things that upset Dan after 2015 was we wanted him to make some changes to his country club. If that's true, it tells me that MSU is serious about recruiting at least from an administrative level.

[dawgman15]

The WR from pearl decommitted

[Coursesuper]

The WR from pearl decommitted

He’s juco bound.

[Ari Gold]

The WR from pearl decommitted

Juco bound.

[jacksondawg]

Do we have anyone playing in the Under Armour All American Game or Army All American Game besides Dolla Bill?

[ShotgunDawg]

Do we have anyone playing in the Under Armour All American Game or Army All American Game besides Dolla Bill?

I think Heath

[BuckyIsAB****]

Juco bound.

Doubt he ever makes it to starkville

[bulldawg28]

Are we recruiting any other DB's heavily than Myles Mason? I've been to several of his games this year and was never impressed with his defensive skills. He missed half the year with injury, he was ineligible for parts of it for transferring his senior year, and played little defense. He looked decent at RB with being physical. However, I doubt he ever would start at MSU. Something would have to change. He's a JT Gray clone a true tweener guy.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Doubt he ever makes it to starkville

He make it to Starkville every other year for one game.

[Ari Gold]

Doubt he ever makes it to starkville

Because ..??

[YazooDawg23]

Lets go get this 2019 class.. I refuse to go quietly into the night.

Moore
Pickering
Black
Jackson
Young
Handy
Russell
Edwards
Pruitt
Jones

That is 10 of the top 17 that I feel like we have a fighting chance for. Refuse to lose. Get it done. Lets get to work. NO EXCUSES

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Sounds like Black will follow the Lovett route

[msstate7]

Sounds like Black will follow the Lovett route

Serenity now... I refuse to melt over 2019 recruiting haha

[msstate7]

Since our 2018 recruiting is boring as heck right, I have been following the CBs on Harold joiner. He was trending OM, then auburn started popping up. Today an LSU guy, says OM. Does auburn want this kid or not?

[ShotgunDawg]

Since our 2018 recruiting is boring as heck right, I have been following the CBs on Harold joiner. He was trending OM, then auburn started popping up. Today an LSU guy, says OM. Does auburn want this kid or not?

We had a thread on this last week FWIW

Ifyouonlyknew said that the kid is too big to be a RB at 6'3" 220+ currently & may have to move to TE. More or less, due to his size, he's a tweener that LSU & Auburn are having trouble finding room for.

He's a similar size as Derrick Henry but without the speed.

[msstate7]

We had a thread on this last week FWIW

Ifyouonlyknew said that the kid is too big to be a RB at 6'3" 220+ currently & may have to move to TE. More or less, due to his size, he's a tweener that LSU & Auburn are having trouble finding room for.

He's a similar size as Derrick Henry but without the speed.

I remember the thread, but auburn CBs starting popping up this week. Was wondering if the kid showed out at army AS practice and earned an auburn offer.

[msbulldog]

Gus is slow playing the kid, since there is the possibility Pettway and Kerryon Johnson may go pro.

[maroonmania]

Sounds like Black will follow the Lovett route

If OM wants a recruit and the recruit wants OM then why can't things be like every other school out there and the recruit just commit to OM from the get go. The only logical reason would seem for the recruit to want to greatly up the ante from the OM network. Nothing else makes makes a lick of sense. Thanks to the incompetent and worthless NCAA, I guess there is no end to this practice from the most corrupt recruiting school in all the FBS.

[bulldawg28]

I remember the thread, but auburn CBs starting popping up this week. Was wondering if the kid showed out at army AS practice and earned an auburn offer.

Auburn is in need of a TE. They missed out on there top guy.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

We had a thread on this last week FWIW

Ifyouonlyknew said that the kid is too big to be a RB at 6'3" 220+ currently & may have to move to TE. More or less, due to his size, he's a tweener that LSU & Auburn are having trouble finding room for.

He's a similar size as Derrick Henry but without the speed.

and OM don't give a shit he's too tall for RB all they see is 4stars. Video game recruiting continues.

[Cooterpoot]

OM is beating us to the punch with young recruits. They hit a lot of young guys this week. Mo better get this shit rolling.

[Ari Gold]

OM is beating us to the punch with young recruits. They hit a lot of young guys this week. Mo better get this shit rolling.

Like who ?? We are in good shape with a lot of 2019 guys.
2019 is going to be a circus. So Everyone just ****ing chill out and enjoy the 2018 season and 2019 recruiting will take care of itself .

[preachermatt83]

I don't know how many times I have said this but if you worry about black you are worrying for nothing. He is not going to get anywhere close to qualifying

[MetEdDawg]

Moorhead just offered Pierce Quick, OT out of Hewitt Trussville in Alabama. He’s rated 97 overall and already committed to Bama.

Welcome to a new day in recruiting guys. Mullen would never have offered a kid like that. Moorhead is going to be relentless I think. Not care what our situation is or how lowly people might think we are. We are going to go after top talent.

[Todd4State]

Moorhead just offered Pierce Quick, OT out of Hewitt Trussville in Alabama. He’s rated 97 overall and already committed to Bama.

Welcome to a new day in recruiting guys. Mullen would never have offered a kid like that. Moorhead is going to be relentless I think. Not care what our situation is or how lowly people might think we are. We are going to go after top talent.

I agree and that's the way it should be. People just need to be patient while we are getting things together. We have 12 months to catch up- and a great season next year will do wonders for us.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I don't know how many times I have said this but if you worry about black you are worrying for nothing. He is not going to get anywhere close to qualifying

True. My sister taught him in school and said he has a long way to go.

[Cooterpoot]

I'm not concerned with Black. His recruitment looks like a UM flip set up. UM is pounding away at the 20 and 21 kids already.

[Ari Gold]

I'm not concerned with Black. His recruitment looks like a UM flip set up. UM is pounding away at the 20 and 21 kids already.

If Matt Luke is still coaching Umiss in 2020 I will be shocked.

[Ari Gold]

And I was sent a PM basically saying how he couldn’t believe we dropped Reed and that’s what cost us Lovett.

Just so everyone knows.. Reed and Lovett was not / is not a package deal. Period.

[ShotgunDawg]

Ari, are our chances with Lovett over?

[Bully13]

Ari, are our chances with Lovett over?

Sounds to me like we never had a chance. He's been a unm flipmas from the get go. Either to rub more salt in our wound had we lost our bowl game or rain on our parade if we won it.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

And I was sent a PM basically saying how he couldn’t believe we dropped Reed and that’s what cost us Lovett.

Just so everyone knows.. Reed and Lovett was not / is not a package deal. Period.

You need to elaborate bc it seems dropping Reed cost Lovett...I don't see how it could be any other way? Baker is still here and will be his coach. Early playing time is never the ONLY reason.

[Ari Gold]

You need to elaborate bc it seems dropping Reed cost Lovett...I don't see how it could be any other way? Baker is still here and will be his coach. Early playing time is never the ONLY reason.

If you don’t know the answer to this then you should just steer clear of following recruiting

Short answer to the question. Know ur battles and move on.

[ShotgunDawg]

Sounds to me like we never had a chance. He's been a unm flipmas from the get go. Either to rub more salt in our wound had we lost our bowl game or rain on our parade if we won it.

I don't believe this.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

If you don’t know the answer to this then you should just steer clear of following recruiting

Short answer to the question. Know ur battles and move on.

That tells me what I need to know.

[msbulldog]

You need to elaborate bc it seems dropping Reed cost Lovett...I don't see how it could be any other way? Baker is still here and will be his coach. Early playing time is never the ONLY reason.

If Reed and Lovett were a package deal, Reed would be signed with Mississippi now and not Memphis.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Because ..??

We'll have to re recruit him and hope he has the grades this time

[BuckyIsAB****]

As far as finishing up our 2018 class, if we want who is IMO the best pound for pound player in the state we should offer Tylan Knight from Pearl. Say whatever you want about his size but coaching against him for 4 years and the plays he made, intangibles and with him winning the MVP of the MS/AL game we should give the kid a shot. He would do nothing but help us wherever we put him, he can play D, return kicks, and play RB

[Ari Gold]

We'll have to re recruit him and hope he has the grades this time

We are fine with Patterson.

[ShotgunDawg]

As far as finishing up our 2018 class, if we want who is IMO the best pound for pound player in the state we should offer Tylan Knight from Pearl. Say whatever you want about his size but coaching against him for 4 years and the plays he made, intangibles and with him winning the MVP of the MS/AL game we should give the kid a shot. He would do nothing but help us wherever we put him, he can play D, return kicks, and play RB

He is 5'6" & runs a 4.65.

He simply lacks the measurables to play in the SEC.

If he played DB, he would have no way of matching up & why would we want the ball in the hands of a 5'6" guy that doesn't possess great speed.

Knight would have to be a massive exception to turn into a quality SEC player

[BuckyIsAB****]

He is 5'6" & runs a 4.65.

He simply lacks the measurables to play in the SEC.

If he played DB, he would have no way of matching up & why would we want the ball in the hands of a 5'6" guy that doesn't possess great speed.

Knight would have to be a massive exception to turn into a quality SEC player

Ok.

I've seen the kid live for 4 years, even talked to him. He aint 5'6. Hes probably 5'9, 5'10.

I'd say a 4.5, 4.6 is about right but theres a diff in 40 speed and game speed.

Hes a football player, the best one pound for pound in the state.

We will be sitting here in a few yrs wondering why we didnt try

[sscjr1]

Ok.

I've seen the kid live for 4 years, even talked to him. He aint 5'6. Hes probably 5'9, 5'10.

I'd say a 4.5, 4.6 is about right but theres a diff in 40 speed and game speed.

Hes a football player, the best one pound for pound in the state.

We will be sitting here in a few yrs wondering why we didnt try

I've never seen a roster where the player's size is underestimated. Why him?

[BuckyIsAB****]

I've never seen a roster where the player's size is underestimated. Why him?

What roster has him at 5'6? Maxpreps??

Im just telling you, you can look at the kid and tell hes taller than 5'6

[ShotgunDawg]

What roster has him at 5'6? Maxpreps??

Im just telling you, you can look at the kid and tell hes taller than 5'6

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4770967/tylan-knight

[Ari Gold]

Bottom line is if he comes to State it will be as a walk on . Nothing against the kid.
USM should offer.
If he wants to play in SEC go Juco route and see what happens.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Bottom line is if he comes to State it will be as a walk on . Nothing against the kid.
USM should offer.
If he wants to play in SEC go Juco route and see what happens.

I can agree to that. USM absolutely shouldve offered. They shouldve offered him, Tayler Polk, Gardner Minshew and a few others

[BuckyIsAB****]

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4770967/tylan-knight

Go watch him play and tell me there was a better player in the state this year. Without him Pearl doesnt come close to a ring

[ShotgunDawg]

Go watch him play and tell me there was a better player in the state this year. Without him Pearl doesnt come close to a ring

I hear you, but he's also playing against other high school players.

How would he match up against a guy like AJ Brown or Metcalf? They would beat him with speed & size

Knight may end being an NFL player for all I know, but I also know that it's generally a bad idea to deviate from the profile this much

[BuckyIsAB****]

I hear you, but he's also playing against other high school players.

How would he match up against a guy like AJ Brown or Metcalf? They would beat him with speed & size

Knight may end being an NFL player for all I know, but I also know that it's generally a bad idea to deviate from the profile this much

Well he never played CB or S much so he wouldnt be matched up with them anyway. Put him at OLB like JT Gray or shit just let the guy start on all special teams and return kicks.

Im not trying to drool over the kid but he is as good off the field as he is on it. He deserves a shot

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Go watch him play and tell me there was a better player in the state this year. Without him Pearl doesnt come close to a ring

Knight was great but Marcus Murphy was the best player in the state this year.

[msbulldog]

Ok.

I've seen the kid live for 4 years, even talked to him. He aint 5'6. Hes probably 5'9, 5'10.

I'd say a 4.5, 4.6 is about right but theres a diff in 40 speed and game speed.

Hes a football player, the best one pound for pound in the state.

We will be sitting here in a few yrs wondering why we didnt try

Damn, kinda sounds like Jerry Rice to me.

[Ari Gold]

And like I said don’t worry about Patterson
He recommitted this evening

[msstate7]

And like I said don’t worry about Patterson
He recommitted this evening

Think we go ahead and sign him? Does not look like we will sign 25 anyway

[msbulldog]

Ok.

I've seen the kid live for 4 years, even talked to him. He aint 5'6. Hes probably 5'9, 5'10.

I'd say a 4.5, 4.6 is about right but theres a diff in 40 speed and game speed.

Hes a football player, the best one pound for pound in the state.

We will be sitting here in a few yrs wondering why we didnt try

Look Bucky, everybody has their favorites, especially hometown guys, but the guys that we pay millions of dollars to, have to make 25 decisions per year to keep making that kind of money. I completely believe you, that this young man is of outstanding character, maybe an Eagle Scout. I wish, as I referenced above that we had signed Jerry Rice. Emory Bellard was our coach at the time and his wishbone did not put a premium on wide receivers. Man I appreciate your passion in your promotion of this young man, but it is just not in the cards. :)

[BuckyIsAB****]

If we have 25 scholarships and dont use them after all the ''mismanagement'' of the roster we bitched about under Mullen then we really bitched about nothing for like 9 years. That or we feel really good about 19 class

[ShotgunDawg]

Anyone got any good rumors?

[BuckyIsAB****]

Knight was great but Marcus Murphy was the best player in the state this year.

I think thats arguable. Only west point game I really watched all yr was the state title game bc we dont play them but yeah I'd say they both are the biggest reasons their teams went undefeated.

Says a lot in my book

[Ari Gold]

Ok. This has gotten like 2 pages.
Being a good high school player doesn’t mean u can play SEC ball
He has one offer it’s from USA. That says a lot.
We aren’t going to offer him. Period. He has 2 options to be a Dawg. Walk on or go Juco and Revist in 2 years.

And comparing him to Marcus Murphy is absurd . Murphy has talent to play day one in the SEC

I hope the kid walks on here and I hope we encourage him too.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

What?s the deal with Patterson re-committing, Ari? Is there hope that he qualifies now?

[msstate7]

Anyone got any good rumors?

Pretty sure my neighbors are strung out on meth

[jumbo]

What?s the deal with Patterson re-committing, Ari? Is there hope that he qualifies now?



No. I believe the staff put their initial focus on the players that would be signing early and Patterson didn't get any in home visits which made him think about other options. Once the staff met with him they took care of all that.

[MetEdDawg]

No. I believe the staff put their initial focus on the players that would be signing early and Patterson didn't get any in home visits which made him think about other options. Once the staff met with him they took care of all that.

He's a good player I think. Wasn't essential to the class but I think can make an impact down the road. We've only got Guidry for 2 years I believe and I would bet at least one of Whop or Heath play this year, maybe both. So we will need Patterson at some point to make an impact in a couple years. Plus I think he's an SEC player.

[msstate7]

What is latest on winkel and Williams? Are there any others not ?committed? that we are recruiting for 2018?

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Go watch him play and tell me there was a better player in the state this year. Without him Pearl doesnt come close to a ring

Marcus Murphy was better.

[HoopsDawg]

What is latest on winkel and Williams? Are there any others not ?committed? that we are recruiting for 2018?

Things look good on Winkel. UT seems to be the favorite for Williams. We are recruiting Eddie Smith at CB. He is a former TCU commit.

[Bdawg]

How do we look with Eddie Smith? Maybe it came from him but is he the #1 cb in LA? We need a good one in this class.

[HoopsDawg]

How do we look with Eddie Smith? Maybe it came from him but is he the #1 cb in LA? We need a good one in this class.

He's friends with Whop and Shawn Preston. Hopefully we can get him to visit. Gotta battle UT for him too.

[msstate7]

Gotta battle UT for him too.

I am not liking pruitt

[msbulldog]

I am not liking pruitt

7, I bet you would like him if we hired him, huh?

[maroonmania]

What is latest on winkel and Williams? Are there any others not ?committed? that we are recruiting for 2018?

Who is Williams?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

7, I bet you would like him if we hired him, huh?

msbulldog, I believe what 7 was saying is that he's not liking Pruitt since Pruitt is recruiting against us for so many guys (Murphy, Carivin, etc). 7 was not saying he doesn't think Pruitt is a good coach/person, just that he doesn't like Pruitt because of recruiting

[msstate7]

msbulldog, I believe what 7 was saying is that he's not liking Pruitt since Pruitt is recruiting against us for so many guys (Murphy, Carivin, etc). 7 was not saying he doesn't think Pruitt is a good coach/person, just that he doesn't like Pruitt because of recruiting

No, Pruitt is a terrible human being. I?m kidding... you right

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Did the school release a list of the players that enrolled for this semester when they announced the signees?

It doesn't say in this story if they will enroll (http://hailstate.com/news/2017/12/20/football-stateteam18-joe-moorhead-hauls-in-top-20-class-during-new-early-signing-period.aspx), but I'm mostly concerned about one guy.

[Ari Gold]

Did the school release a list of the players that enrolled for this semester when they announced the signees?

It doesn't say in this story if they will enroll (http://hailstate.com/news/2017/12/20/football-stateteam18-joe-moorhead-hauls-in-top-20-class-during-new-early-signing-period.aspx), but I'm mostly concerned about one guy.

Whop
Murphy
Gudiry
Are enrolled here if that’s what you are asking

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

yep, was wondering about one of those. Thanks

[archdawg]

Any others expected as an EE?

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Mullen lured away Otis Yelverton from Co-Lin to Florida...good thing we still have Rod Gibson. Anyone know if the Hulk is top recruit (https://247sports.com/Player/Kendell-Jones-36873/high-school-60744) for us?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Mullen lured away Otis Yelverton from Co-Lin to Florida...good thing we still have Rod Gibson. Anyone know if the Hulk is top recruit (https://247sports.com/Player/Kendell-Jones-36873/high-school-60744) for us?

Pipeline lost?