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Ari Gold
09-18-2017, 11:57 AM
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Let's just wait and see how it plays out.. I won't say I told ya so..

jumbo
09-18-2017, 01:53 PM
Anyone know a list of recruits who were at our game against LSU?


All of them

Cary Hudson's little bro
09-19-2017, 09:48 AM
Who do y'all think the mystery OL that Paul has been talking about for the last couple weeks? He says some of us will be shocked...

Also, are we not the leader for S/LB David Reese? Stewart's brother.

Ifyouonlyknew
09-19-2017, 10:17 AM
Who do y'all think the mystery OL that Paul has been talking about for the last couple weeks? He says some of us will be shocked...

Also, are we not the leader for S/LB David Reese? Stewart's brother.

The family doesn't want his name out yet. He's a very good prospect.

David is committed to Florida.

stalkingpoon
09-19-2017, 10:27 AM
The family doesn't want his name out yet. He's a very good prospect.

David is committed to Florida.

How good? 4 star? 5 star? OT?

Johnson85
09-19-2017, 10:29 AM
There is ZERO difference between Cole and the OC we already have committed.

We have an offensive coordinator signed? Or does 'OC' mean center? I wasn't under the impression that Cole was a center (of course I wasn't under the impression that Jenkins was a center either). But regardless, why would we not want two? We need some numbers in the OL class this year.

Cary Hudson's little bro
09-19-2017, 10:30 AM
The family doesn't want his name out yet. He's a very good prospect.



Will he play in one of the all-star games?

Ifyouonlyknew
09-19-2017, 10:32 AM
We have an offensive coordinator signed? Or does 'OC' mean center? I wasn't under the impression that Cole was a center (of course I wasn't under the impression that Jenkins was a center either). But regardless, why would we not want two? We need some numbers in the OL class this year.

He meant Center. Cole is definitely a Center he's around 6'2". I don't expect Cole in this class.

Ifyouonlyknew
09-19-2017, 10:35 AM
How good? 4 star? 5 star? OT?

[QUOTE] Will he play in one of the all-star games? /[QUOTE]

He's a very good prospect

Cary Hudson's little bro
09-19-2017, 10:49 AM
I'm betting it's Ohonba.

Tripp McNeely
09-19-2017, 01:41 PM
We have an offensive coordinator signed? Or does 'OC' mean center? I wasn't under the impression that Cole was a center (of course I wasn't under the impression that Jenkins was a center either). But regardless, why would we not want two? We need some numbers in the OL class this year.

Why in the hey would you want 2 centers (who will both redshirt) in the same class?? 1 center and 2 OGs, I'm down with that...but 2 true centers in the same class just doesn't make any sense

Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-19-2017, 04:46 PM
Are we close to another high profile 2019 class member committing? Maybe?

Ifyouonlyknew
09-19-2017, 06:59 PM
Are we close to another high profile 2019 class member committing? Maybe?

There's a few 2019 guys who are close. No set timeframe though.

Johnson85
09-19-2017, 09:27 PM
Why in the hey would you want 2 centers (who will both redshirt) in the same class?? 1 center and 2 OGs, I'm down with that...but 2 true centers in the same class just doesn't make any sense

Because OL often don't pan out and our classes are imbalanced right now. If we sign two highly rated centers and they both pan out, that's not a disaster.

If we have 4 high school OL we like that commit in addition to the center, then no, I wouldn't want to use another scholarship on a second Center.

sscjr1
09-20-2017, 08:28 PM
Diwun Black commits per Paul

Commercecomet24
09-20-2017, 08:42 PM
Black is a big pickup! Great news'

bostondawg
09-20-2017, 10:04 PM
Diwun Black is a 93 overall per the composite. He would be the top player in MS this year, but is currently the seventh best player in the state for 2019. Amazing how loaded the 2019 class is.

vv83
09-20-2017, 10:29 PM
Does he project as a WR? Seems like a good fit at 6’3 190

Todd4State
09-20-2017, 10:46 PM
Because OL often don't pan out and our classes are imbalanced right now. If we sign two highly rated centers and they both pan out, that's not a disaster.

If we have 4 high school OL we like that commit in addition to the center, then no, I wouldn't want to use another scholarship on a second Center.

We certainly could probably move one of them to guard. But that makes sense.

preachermatt83
09-20-2017, 11:19 PM
Is black a sign and place? I graduated with his dad and I wanna say I heard some folks say that his dad has said he's got some grade issues. I may be wrong.

state66
09-21-2017, 12:08 AM
Hes literally got 2 years to fix his grades

msbulldog
09-21-2017, 06:04 AM
That puts us in 8th in 247 rankings for 2019, I just checked it so I don't know whether Black is included or not. It lists 1 four star.

Edit: went back and checked and it was 9th place (my old eyes) and yes it includes Black.

jumbo
09-21-2017, 08:30 AM
Is black a sign and place? I graduated with his dad and I wanna say I heard some folks say that his dad has said he's got some grade issues. I may be wrong.


S&P will go away starting with the 2019 class. no more counting back scholarships, you can sign 25 kids period.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-21-2017, 08:42 AM
Diwun Black commits per Paul

Well...well....well a 2019 Commit!!!!!!

Bothrops
09-21-2017, 12:18 PM
A LB from Tuscaloosa is about to jump a sinking ship and join the good guys.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-21-2017, 01:32 PM
A LB from Tuscaloosa is about to jump a sinking ship and join the good guys.

Yep! He and Willie G are good friends. I was shocked to see the commitment to OM in the first place. Roach more than likely won't be retained.

msbulldog
09-25-2017, 03:47 PM
Aaron Brule LB commits to UGA.

Irondawg
09-25-2017, 07:54 PM
Hated to see that. I thought we would get Brule

msstate7
10-01-2017, 05:23 PM
With christmann looking like the real deal, do we encourage McPherson to look around? Think I?d rather give christmann a scholarship and sigh another player

Dawgfan77
10-01-2017, 05:55 PM
Just picked up another commit jadenn crumedy.

Todd4State
10-01-2017, 05:56 PM
With christmann looking like the real deal, do we encourage McPherson to look around? Think I?d rather give christmann a scholarship and sigh another player

Hell no. We redshirt him.

Commercecomet24
10-01-2017, 06:00 PM
Hell no. We redshirt him.

Exactly!

msstate7
10-01-2017, 06:46 PM
Hell no. We redshirt him.

I can see that. We?re at 24 commits now though and you can only sign 25. Do we really want 3 kicker/punters on scholarship?

sscjr1
10-01-2017, 07:30 PM
I believe the 25 signee limit starts next year

msstate7
10-01-2017, 07:41 PM
I believe the 25 signee limit starts next year

That makes more sense then

shrimp
10-02-2017, 09:54 AM
What are the chances that Aaron Morgan sticks in this class? Either by our choice or his choice.

Patterson and Franklin are likely non-qualifiers.

Who else, currently committed, may not end up in this class?

fader2103
10-02-2017, 03:19 PM
McKinnley Jackson DT from George County is a beast. Biggest guy on the field vs. Brandon last week. What are our chances? I am guessing slim to none with LSU, Bama, and FSU all after him as well. BTW only a sophomore! BHS was double, and triple teaming him all night

vv83
10-03-2017, 06:15 PM
James Williams commits

https://247sports.com/Player/James-Williams-46036957

Ari Gold
10-03-2017, 06:37 PM
More good news on the horizon..

JimmyMcNulty
10-03-2017, 06:39 PM
2018 or 2019??

cuspid
10-03-2017, 08:34 PM
Ari are you referring to Spivey or someone else?

3rdGen
10-03-2017, 09:56 PM
Ari are you referring to Spivey or someone else?

Cuspid(chewing nails while reading and waiting for ari response) wondering who is up next.

DAMNIT ARI, DONT LEAVE THIS ALT ACCOUNT HANGING! Haha!

Ari Gold
10-03-2017, 10:29 PM
Ari are you referring to Spivey or someone else?

Yes and yes..

Todd4State
10-03-2017, 10:58 PM
I can see that. We?re at 24 commits now though and you can only sign 25. Do we really want 3 kicker/punters on scholarship?


Yes.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
10-04-2017, 09:04 AM
Cuspid(chewing nails while reading and waiting for ari response) wondering who is up next.

DAMNIT ARI, DONT LEAVE THIS ALT ACCOUNT HANGING! Haha!

Seems really easy to say you know big news is coming and not give details don't it? That way when nothing happens you can always fall back on...."He decided to wait to announce" But if someone does commit you look like a genius!!!!!

Tripp McNeely
10-04-2017, 09:10 AM
Seems really easy to say you know big news is coming and not give details don't it? That way when nothing happens you can always fall back on...."He decided to wait to announce" But if someone does commit you look like a genius!!!!!

Myles Mason

Ifyouonlyknew
10-04-2017, 09:19 AM
Myles Mason

I'm not sure if he commits this week

Ari Gold
10-04-2017, 10:14 AM
Seems really easy to say you know big news is coming and not give details don't it? That way when nothing happens you can always fall back on...."He decided to wait to announce" But if someone does commit you look like a genius!!!!!

Don't be mad I have inside info .. if you don't like what I post don't ****ing read it . I get intel I post what I can and what I think is best .
Maybe you would like to take a few weeks off.. if not then don't piss me off..

Dawg-gone-dawgs
10-04-2017, 10:47 AM
Don't be mad I have inside info .. if you don't like what I post don't ****ing read it . I get intel I post what I can and what I think is best .
Maybe you would like to take a few weeks off.. if not then don't piss me off..

I get intel too...from paid boards. But I don't come over here acting like I know something. Just calling it like I see it and don't threaten me.

So we are all supposed to walk a fine line here to not piss off our masters? Is that it? WTH kind of board is this? Seriously, thin skinned are we?

I seen it dawg
10-04-2017, 11:33 AM
I get intel too...from paid boards. But I don't come over here acting like I know something. Just calling it like I see it and don't threaten me.

So we are all supposed to walk a fine line here to not piss off our masters? Is that it? WTH kind of board is this? Seriously, thin skinned are we?

How about just try not to be such a douchebag. Maybe you start there.

You started the shit with your dumb ****ing comment so don't get mad when it's thrown back at you. Why even comment if that's what you are going to write unless you are just trying to start some shit. And if that's it then yeah you do need to walk a fine ****ing line. If it's a problem stay on the paid boards.

Ari Gold
10-04-2017, 11:40 AM
I get intel too...from paid boards. But I don't come over here acting like I know something. Just calling it like I see it and don't threaten me.

So we are all supposed to walk a fine line here to not piss off our masters? Is that it? WTH kind of board is this? Seriously, thin skinned are we?

Then stay on the paid boards .. more time than not we break things here before they do. My info doesn't come from the paid sites. Like I said you don't like what I post don't ****ing ready it.
Try this . Read More Post Less. That always works out best ..

Bully13
10-04-2017, 11:44 AM
hate to see these interactions. take a deep breath dawg gone. hey Ari, when you gonna spill it? LOL

JimmyMcNulty
10-04-2017, 11:49 AM
Tickle fight !!!

Ari Gold
10-04-2017, 12:05 PM
hate to see these interactions. take a deep breath dawg gone. hey Ari, when you gonna spill it? LOL

All I was told is that We expect Spivey to be a Dawg on Friday and there is a good chance we get another commit this weekend. ( 2018 guy) If it was ok to say who I would have .

Ari Gold
10-04-2017, 12:09 PM
And if you want me to break down who I think we get in this class that's uncommitted now

Spivey
Mason ( will take Jones spot)
Whop ( who I have been all in on since last year )
Carvin ( might be sooner than later )
Nelson
And one more OL

And if we go 6 for 6 with that group we will make room . Don't worry about the numbers

msbulldog
10-04-2017, 12:10 PM
Sure hope it's OL.

Bully13
10-04-2017, 12:24 PM
A LB from Tuscaloosa is about to jump a sinking ship and join the good guys.

who?

msstate7
10-04-2017, 12:26 PM
And if you want me to break down who I think we get in this class that's uncommitted now

Spivey
Mason ( will take Jones spot)
Whop ( who I have been all in on since last year )
Carvin ( might be sooner than later )
Nelson
And one more OL

And if we go 6 for 6 with that group we will make room . Don't worry about the numbers

Good stuff. Hope you right

Bully13
10-04-2017, 12:26 PM
And if you want me to break down who I think we get in this class that's uncommitted now

Spivey
Mason ( will take Jones spot)
Whop ( who I have been all in on since last year )
Carvin ( might be sooner than later )
Nelson
And one more OL

And if we go 6 for 6 with that group we will make room . Don't worry about the numbers

Could someone give the 1st names of these 5? greatly appreciated

JimmyMcNulty
10-04-2017, 12:29 PM
Hopefully you mean Carvin?

Ari Gold
10-04-2017, 12:35 PM
who?

Jones .. and prob not happening . May of Waited too long missed his window..

stalkingpoon
10-04-2017, 12:37 PM
Jacquez Jones

stalkingpoon
10-04-2017, 12:39 PM
Could someone give the 1st names of these 5? greatly appreciated

Geoquarius Spivey
Myles Mason
Devonta Jason (Whop)
Jerome Carvin
Antonio Nelson

Bully13
10-04-2017, 01:07 PM
Geoquarius Spivey
Myles Mason
Devonta Jason (Whop)
Jerome Carvin
Antonio Nelson

thanks man

Dawg-gone-dawgs
10-04-2017, 01:12 PM
Thanks for the reputation points guys. ;)

Ifyouonlyknew
10-04-2017, 01:12 PM
I was hoping we could pull Savion Smith Juco CB at Gulf Coast who transferred from LSU. Bama has put the full court press on though so he's probably headed there.

Ari Gold
10-04-2017, 01:21 PM
I was hoping we could pull Savion Smith Juco CB at Gulf Coast who transferred from LSU. Bama has put the full court press on though so he's probably headed there.

Agree

dawggrad08
10-04-2017, 01:32 PM
So is the OL recruit a T or G? I'm assuming this is the mystery guy everyone's been referring to.



And if you want me to break down who I think we get in this class that's uncommitted now

Spivey
Mason ( will take Jones spot)
Whop ( who I have been all in on since last year )
Carvin ( might be sooner than later )
Nelson
And one more OL

And if we go 6 for 6 with that group we will make room . Don't worry about the numbers

Ari Gold
10-04-2017, 01:38 PM
So is the OL recruit a T or G? I'm assuming this is the mystery guy everyone's been referring to.

From what I have gathered it's Carvin and next best available. I don't put any stock into the mystery OL
And it's Coach Hev so who ****ing knows

Ifyouonlyknew
10-04-2017, 02:02 PM
I expect 2 Tackles & 1 can play inside if needed

dawggrad08
10-04-2017, 02:03 PM
From what I have gathered it's Carvin and next best available. I don't put any stock into the mystery OL
And it's Coach Hev so who ****ing knows

I've wondered if Carvin is the "mystery" guy but since he was expected at UT, he doesn't want to ruffle feathers. And yeah...Im hoping Looney is helping with the OL targets.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-04-2017, 02:40 PM
I've wondered if Carvin is the "mystery" guy but since he was expected at UT, he doesn't want to ruffle feathers. And yeah...Im hoping Looney is helping with the OL targets.

It's not Carvin

stalkingpoon
10-04-2017, 02:50 PM
It's not Carvin

Cole Smith?

jumbo
10-04-2017, 03:12 PM
It's not Carvin


Is he from the northeast?

Ifyouonlyknew
10-04-2017, 03:19 PM
Is he from the northeast?

He's from the USA

jumbo
10-04-2017, 03:29 PM
He's from the USA


Does his HS have a different state in the name?

stalkingpoon
10-04-2017, 03:42 PM
No interest in Brownlee from West Point? He made MS/AL game as DB.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-04-2017, 07:11 PM
I'm not sure if he commits this week

Looks like I may be wrong

Bully13
10-04-2017, 07:22 PM
Looks like I may be wrong

thanks Dan. looking forward to some good news. thank you sir.

Bully13
10-05-2017, 12:14 PM
hey crootin' gurus. I thought tsun was in the 70's? why does 247 have them at 31?

https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

ShotgunDawg
10-05-2017, 12:17 PM
hey crootin' gurus. I thought tsun was in the 70's? why does 247 have them at 31?

https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Because that's last year's rankings

Commercecomet24
10-05-2017, 12:18 PM
hey crootin' gurus. I thought tsun was in the 70's? why does 247 have them at 31?

https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

You know that?s the past signing class right? From February 2017

Really Clark?
10-05-2017, 12:20 PM
hey crootin' gurus. I thought tsun was in the 70's? why does 247 have them at 31?

https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

That's last year's class. They are 84 right now for this year.

Ari Gold
10-05-2017, 12:33 PM
I get intel too...from paid boards. But I don't come over here acting like I know something. Just calling it like I see it and don't threaten me.

So we are all supposed to walk a fine line here to not piss off our masters? Is that it? WTH kind of board is this? Seriously, thin skinned are we?

Looks like the "genius" saying more good news on the horizon was right.. heard it here first At ED..

Bully13
10-05-2017, 12:36 PM
duh. I'll try not to ask anymore stupid questions today. SPILL IT ARI!!!

Ari Gold
10-05-2017, 12:46 PM
duh. I'll try not to ask anymore stupid questions today. SPILL IT ARI!!!

Nothing to spill.. I just said more good news on the horizon , got called out for just throwing shit out there . Hours later on a paid site its reported. I just didn't give the kids name. At the time was asked not to..

Again this isn't about me till someone calls me out..

Bully13
10-05-2017, 12:50 PM
Nothing to spill.. I just said more good news on the horizon , got called out for just throwing shit out there . Hours later on a paid site its reported. I just didn't give the kids name. At the time was asked not to..

Again this isn't about me till someone calls me out..

understood. paid sites deserve respect and so do the players who don't want info on the net till they're ready. btw, I'm assuming we're ranked 16 because we've got 25 on the board, amirite? where do you think we'll end up come Feb?

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Ari Gold
10-05-2017, 12:55 PM
understood. paid sites deserve respect and so do the players who don't want info on the net till they're ready. btw, I'm assuming we're ranked 16 because we've got 25 on the board, amirite? where do you think we'll end up come Feb?

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

There's 6 guys I think we get and we will make room for them all if we do.. don't worry about nunbers

Bully13
10-05-2017, 01:00 PM
There's 6 guys I think we get and we will make room for them all if we do.. don't worry about nunbers

yep. I hate it that we'll have to tell some of these commits we can't sign you but that's just one of the downsides to crootin. I'm sure tsun media folk will be visiting each coach for that player we have to drop to do a story on how bad we are to do the players like that.

I'm sure every school that has high ranked classes have to do that every year though.

smootness
10-05-2017, 01:06 PM
So who is the player? I don't go to any paid boards.

Ari Gold
10-05-2017, 01:09 PM
So who is the player? I don't go to any paid boards.

Myles Mason.

Ari Gold
10-05-2017, 01:11 PM
And to add ..
Don't be shocked if Jerome Carvin commits To us next weekend

Bully13
10-05-2017, 02:07 PM
And to add ..
Don't be shocked if Jerome Carvin commits To us next weekend

getting Carvin and Mason would be awesome. just think too, MSU is closer to Carvin than UT. a lot closer as a matter of fact.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
10-05-2017, 02:16 PM
Looks like the "genius" saying more good news on the horizon was right.. heard it here first At ED..

"A blind squirrel...Well you know the rest. If you want me to stop calling you out then you need to stop calling me out. Get it?

sscjr1
10-05-2017, 02:38 PM
Good grief

Ari Gold
10-05-2017, 02:42 PM
"A blind squirrel...Well you know the rest. If you want me to stop calling you out then you need to stop calling me out. Get it?

This is the last time I will address this ..

1. If I ever called you out then u deserved it
2. Just don't be a ****ing douche bag.
3. If you ever have any intel to bring to the recruiting board then by all means post it. I won't be a little bitch and call you out if it's incorrect .
4. There are few on here that get asked about recruiting and we pass along our info ..
5. And finally again best advice for you Read More Post Less..

Problem is you called me out , and I proved you wrong and For whatever reason that bothers u.

It's ok .. I'm Ari Gold . Your not

SouthMSDog
10-05-2017, 03:14 PM
This is the last time I will address this ..

It's ok .. I'm Ari Hold . Your not

REALLY strong... Until the typo... Damn autocorrect!

smootness
10-05-2017, 03:55 PM
"A blind squirrel...Well you know the rest. If you want me to stop calling you out then you need to stop calling me out. Get it?

Stop it

Irondawg
10-05-2017, 04:17 PM
So what our thoughts on Mason? Recruiting him as a WR?

Bully13
10-05-2017, 04:44 PM
So what our thoughts on Mason? Recruiting him as a WR?

we'll need his services on both sides.*****

Ifyouonlyknew
10-05-2017, 04:52 PM
So what our thoughts on Mason? Recruiting him as a WR?

Safety

louisvilledawg
10-06-2017, 08:41 AM
so help a brother out. What are the chances with Spivey? he's announcing today at noon per his twitter. I looked him up and it said he's a tight end? Are we thinking about taking him on as an O-Lineman?

1bigdawg
10-06-2017, 08:41 AM
understood. paid sites deserve respect and so do the players who don't want info on the net till they're ready. btw, I'm assuming we're ranked 16 because we've got 25 on the board, amirite? where do you think we'll end up come Feb?

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

The best way to determine about where we will end up when everyone has a full class is to look at the "Average Ranking" of the committed players. If everyone fills up, that will be the determining factor of the rankings. We are currently at 86.08. We will probably end up in the 25 to 30 range.

Before anyone complains about that, realize that it is not a good year for talent in Mississippi. We are signing the best and they are really good, but that is all we can do without expanding our footprint/reputation.

Bully13
10-06-2017, 09:05 AM
The best way to determine about where we will end up when everyone has a full class is to look at the "Average Ranking" of the committed players. If everyone fills up, that will be the determining factor of the rankings. We are currently at 86.08. We will probably end up in the 25 to 30 range.

Before anyone complains about that, realize that it is not a good year for talent in Mississippi. We are signing the best and they are really good, but that is all we can do without expanding our footprint/reputation.

if we get that OL out of Cordova and that stud Mason safety out of AL, I think we could slip into the top 20. just a hunch though.

shrimp
10-06-2017, 09:54 AM
He will likely play on defense.


so help a brother out. What are the chances with Spivey? he's announcing today at noon per his twitter. I looked him up and it said he's a tight end? Are we thinking about taking him on as an O-Lineman?

Ari Gold
10-06-2017, 10:05 AM
so help a brother out. What are the chances with Spivey? he's announcing today at noon per his twitter. I looked him up and it said he's a tight end? Are we thinking about taking him on as an O-Lineman?

Good guys. And DE..

Bully13
10-06-2017, 10:25 AM
what's the story on Antonio Nelson? 10th ranked player out of AL, does that #4 say he's the 4th best CB in the country?

https://247sports.com/Player/Antonio-Nelson-85460

bostondawg
10-06-2017, 10:29 AM
what's the story on Antonio Nelson? 10th ranked player out of AL, does that #4 say he's the 4th best CB in the country?

https://247sports.com/Player/Antonio-Nelson-85460

Those are JUCO rankings, only comparing him to other JUCO players.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-06-2017, 11:03 AM
The best way to determine about where we will end up when everyone has a full class is to look at the "Average Ranking" of the committed players. If everyone fills up, that will be the determining factor of the rankings. We are currently at 86.08. We will probably end up in the 25 to 30 range.

Before anyone complains about that, realize that it is not a good year for talent in Mississippi. We are signing the best and they are really good, but that is all we can do without expanding our footprint/reputation.

If we close like I think we can/will it will be a top 20 class.

Bully13
10-06-2017, 11:36 AM
Those are JUCO rankings, only comparing him to other JUCO players.

still pretty decent rankings for a juco, no? was wondering why not many major offers. anybody know?

bostondawg
10-06-2017, 12:28 PM
still pretty decent rankings for a juco, no? was wondering why not many major offers. anybody know?

Look at his rating. compare that to the high school class this year from Alabama. A good comparison is this kid: https://247sports.com/Player/Daniel-Beard-89703

That kid is a safety with similar rating. Long story short: no, being the number 5 corner in Juco is about equivalent to being the 100th best corner in high school. Typically a kid like that won't pick up many major D1 offers.

SmokeyDawg
10-06-2017, 12:42 PM
Spivey to the good guys per 247

Ifyouonlyknew
10-06-2017, 12:55 PM
Look at his rating. compare that to the high school class this year from Alabama. A good comparison is this kid: https://247sports.com/Player/Daniel-Beard-89703

That kid is a safety with similar rating. Long story short: no, being the number 5 corner in Juco is about equivalent to being the 100th best corner in high school. Typically a kid like that won't pick up many major D1 offers.

No it's because jucos don't normally get rated high. Guidry is the #2 rated juco in the country & his composite is a 91. It's just the way jucos are ranked.

Bully13
10-06-2017, 12:55 PM
Spivey to the good guys per 247

6-6 & 220. looks like there's some room to put on some muscle. DE?

Really Clark?
10-06-2017, 01:02 PM
6-6 & 220. looks like there's some room to put on some muscle. DE?

Preston Smith 2.0

Ari Gold
10-06-2017, 01:03 PM
Look at his rating. compare that to the high school class this year from Alabama. A good comparison is this kid: https://247sports.com/Player/Daniel-Beard-89703

That kid is a safety with similar rating. Long story short: no, being the number 5 corner in Juco is about equivalent to being the 100th best corner in high school. Typically a kid like that won't pick up many major D1 offers.

He committed to UF out of high school. And if you want to only go by Juco rankings, Darrius Slay wasn't "rated" in the top 50.

bostondawg
10-06-2017, 01:30 PM
To be clear: I'm not trying to knock the kid for his rating. I personally don't care. I was trying to draw a comparison for Bully13 to see why the kid doesn't have a ton of D1 offers.

The fact of the matter is that we should expect Juco kids to be rated less--their value to the team is normally less. They lose two years of eligibility and get worse coaching during that time. As in, less development. (Normally. Yes I understand that sometimes there are kids who aren't ready for D1.)

I promise you there isn't some international Illuminati in a smoky back room conspiring to artificially deflate recruiting rankings of Juco kids.

Ari Gold
10-06-2017, 01:56 PM
And if you want me to break down who I think we get in this class that's uncommitted now

Spivey
Mason ( will take Jones spot)
Whop ( who I have been all in on since last year )
Carvin ( might be sooner than later )
Nelson
And one more OL

And if we go 6 for 6 with that group we will make room . Don't worry about the numbers

One down. 5 to go

msstate7
10-06-2017, 02:06 PM
One down. 5 to go

Is whop the least likely?

maroonmania
10-06-2017, 02:51 PM
One down. 5 to go

So is Devonta Jason pretty much a long shot at this point.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-06-2017, 03:26 PM
So is Devonta Jason pretty much a long shot at this point.

Whop is Devonta Jason

Ari Gold
10-06-2017, 03:39 PM
So is Devonta Jason pretty much a long shot at this point.

Not at all..

maroonmania
10-06-2017, 04:47 PM
Whop is Devonta Jason

Oh, ok, guess I was hearing him called both and didn't realize it was the same person. Is Whop a nickname or something?

Ifyouonlyknew
10-06-2017, 05:28 PM
Oh, ok, guess I was hearing him called both and didn't realize it was the same person. Is Whop a nickname or something?

Yep

archdawg
10-08-2017, 08:56 AM
Which of our commits/prospects are expected to sign in December? Will we have any EEs?

Cary Hudson's little bro
10-10-2017, 09:03 AM
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bostondawg
10-10-2017, 09:33 AM
"For the rest of the way, I believe OL are the top priority along with another safety (Myles Mason), juco corner and another skill player or two." - Paul Jones.

I'll guess:

OL's James Carvin and mystery croot,
S Mason
CB - Antonio Nelson
WR's Whop, Antonio Gibson

What y'all think?

I don't have any inside info on any of this (Ari has been good in his posts over the past few pages though), but just thought I'd mention how our class would look if all of these guys came true (minus the mystery croot, whoever that is). We'd sit at a 223.83 overall composite score, which would put as the #24 overall class by last year's rankings, same spot as last year, with an almost identical class score. Some other notes though:
- people are going to be dropped, we'd have 31 commits. But I'll go with Ari's advice on relaxing about the numbers. It'll work out.
- The class would be about average at #24 overall... I'd love to see us improve to top 20 regularly. But, this class would have to be considered an enormous win because it would probably be our best OL and WR class under Mullen--positions we desperately have underrecruited.
- I think it sets us up well with the 2019 class.

smootness
10-10-2017, 11:10 AM
I don't have any inside info on any of this (Ari has been good in his posts over the past few pages though), but just thought I'd mention how our class would look if all of these guys came true (minus the mystery croot, whoever that is). We'd sit at a 223.83 overall composite score, which would put as the #24 overall class by last year's rankings, same spot as last year, with an almost identical class score. Some other notes though:
- people are going to be dropped, we'd have 31 commits. But I'll go with Ari's advice on relaxing about the numbers. It'll work out.
- The class would be about average at #24 overall... I'd love to see us improve to top 20 regularly. But, this class would have to be considered an enormous win because it would probably be our best OL and WR class under Mullen--positions we desperately have underrecruited.
- I think it sets us up well with the 2019 class.

It would also be a huge win because it looks like we're going to essentially sweep the state.

bostondawg
10-10-2017, 12:59 PM
It would also be a huge win because it looks like we're going to essentially sweep the state.

Absolutely. Huge recruiting momentum and a great WR and OL class.

HoopsDawg
10-11-2017, 02:07 PM
I was hoping we could pull Savion Smith Juco CB at Gulf Coast who transferred from LSU. Bama has put the full court press on though so he's probably headed there.

It's not enough that they sign the number 1 ranked class every year, they have to cherry pick the top Jucos too.

Perpetual Underachiever
10-11-2017, 02:25 PM
Just watched J. Reed's highlights on 247 for the first time, and I'm impressed. It might be my maroon goggles, but he looks like a legitimate SEC corner on tape. Has an impressive offer list as well. Thoughts?

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Jaylon-Reed-91809/RecruitInterests

Bully13
10-11-2017, 04:38 PM
Just watched J. Reed's highlights on 247 for the first time, and I'm impressed. It might be my maroon goggles, but he looks like a legitimate SEC corner on tape. Has an impressive offer list as well. Thoughts?

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Jaylon-Reed-91809/RecruitInterests

thoughts? he's a high school corner with offers from UGA , Oregon & Tenn. how often in recent memory have we been signing guys like that in the secondary?

Bully13
10-11-2017, 04:58 PM
It would also be a huge win because it looks like we're going to essentially sweep the state.

if we end up signing all the MS guys we are expecting, how long has it been since either MSU or tsun dominated the other in this fashion?

msbulldog
10-11-2017, 05:01 PM
I've been watching recruiting for 40 years and I have never seen us get so many of the top players and Mississippi getting practically none. We've had some really good years before, but never like this class.

jumbo
10-12-2017, 12:33 PM
Since it's been put out there now...the mystery OL is this guy

https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Bleich-79941

Ifyouonlyknew
10-12-2017, 12:37 PM
Since it's been put out there now...the mystery OL is this guy

https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Bleich-79941

Just have to lock him up

Dawg Daze
10-12-2017, 12:41 PM
Just have to lock him up

What are the chances that actually happens though? He's already a hard commit to UCLA and even if he does decommit, Nebraska is right up his arse.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-12-2017, 12:48 PM
What are the chances that actually happens though? He's already a hard commit to UCLA and even if he does decommit, Nebraska is right up his arse.

He's far from a hard commit. I like our chances we just have to close.

Bully13
10-12-2017, 12:55 PM
Since it's been put out there now...the mystery OL is this guy

https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Bleich-79941

MAN! watch the film on this guy. He is MEAN. even after he he's done his job knocking the guy he's assigned to out of the play and the offensive guy has run past him, he keeps on pursuing his guy until he's got his recorded pancake and seems to really enjoy falling on the guy too. He's not content with just protecting his offensive guy with the ball, he likes to get into the heads of the defensive people. would LOVE to have this guy.

Dawg Daze
10-12-2017, 12:58 PM
Also, can someone tell me why we haven't been making moves on Kirk Merritt? High 3 star WR playing just down the road in Scooba. I hate that we always miss out on local talent. At this point, I might walk on for receiver :cool:

Dawg Daze
10-12-2017, 01:00 PM
MAN! watch the film on this guy. He is MEAN. even after he he's done his job knocking the guy he's assigned to out of the play and the offensive guy has run past him, he keeps on pursuing his guy until he's got his recorded pancake and seems to really enjoy falling on the guy too. He's not content with just protecting his offensive guy with the ball, he likes to get into the heads of the defensive people. would LOVE to have this guy.

Almost reminds you of when football used to be an aggressive sport lol!

Bothrops
10-12-2017, 01:02 PM
I had forgotten about this Bleich guy. Earlier in the year I knew we were on him, but all info went cold. Why did he commit to UCLA? We were on this guy many months ago.

Ari Gold
10-12-2017, 01:16 PM
Also, can someone tell me why we haven't been making moves on Kirk Merritt? High 3 star WR playing just down the road in Scooba. I hate that we always miss out on local talent. At this point, I might walk on for receiver :cool:

We already have 2 Juco WR ( Guidry and Nelson ) committed. Plus we have Heath and will prob land Whop.
No need for another Juco WR.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-12-2017, 01:17 PM
Also, can someone tell me why we haven't been making moves on Kirk Merritt? High 3 star WR playing just down the road in Scooba. I hate that we always miss out on local talent. At this point, I might walk on for receiver :cool:

We have 2 Juco WR already & he's a slot WR. We have enough of them. Also he's about to be on his 4th school in 30 months.

Bully13
10-12-2017, 01:31 PM
We have 2 Juco WR already & he's a slot WR. We have enough of them. Also he's about to be on his 4th school in 30 months.

I'm confused on this guy now. is this the same Kirk Merritt who was dismissed from A&M in April of this year?

Ifyouonlyknew
10-12-2017, 01:49 PM
I'm confused on this guy now. is this the same Kirk Merritt who was dismissed from A&M in April of this year?

Yes

Dawg Daze
10-12-2017, 01:49 PM
We already have 2 Juco WR ( Guidry and Nelson ) committed. Plus we have Heath and will prob land Whop.
No need for another Juco WR.


We have 2 Juco WR already & he's a slot WR. We have enough of them. Also he's about to be on his 4th school in 30 months.

Ahhh gotcha. Thanks, guys. Think there is a chance he goes back to Texas A&M?

Ifyouonlyknew
10-12-2017, 01:50 PM
Ahhh gotcha. Thanks, guys. Think there is a chance he goes back to Texas A&M?

No he was kicked off the team.

HoopsDawg
10-12-2017, 02:05 PM
We already have 2 Juco WR ( Guidry and Nelson ) committed. Plus we have Heath and will prob land Whop.
No need for another Juco WR.

Nelson has 10 catches for 133 yards for 0 TDs in 6 games. 1 of those catches was for 52 yards accounting for 40% of his production.

HoopsDawg
10-12-2017, 02:12 PM
Merritt has 430 yards with 3 TDs. He is a bigger, faster version of Mixon.

louisvilledawg
10-12-2017, 02:18 PM
We already have 2 Juco WR ( Guidry and Nelson ) committed. Plus we have Heath and will prob land Whop.
No need for another Juco WR.

The hell you say. That would be dope.

Dawg Daze
10-12-2017, 02:24 PM
The hell you say. That would be dope.

Whop would undoubtedly be the biggest recruiting win for us (besides any and all O-lineman we can snag) this season.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-12-2017, 02:28 PM
Merritt has 430 yards with 3 TDs. He is a bigger, faster version of Mixon.

I'm not saying Merritt isn't a beast & isn't killing it. Nero #'s would be a lot better if he was at EMCC too. I just don't see Merritt fitting in with Mullen & MSU culture either.

HoopsDawg
10-12-2017, 02:46 PM
I'm not saying Merritt isn't a beast & isn't killing it. Nero #'s would be a lot better if he was at EMCC too. I just don't see Merritt fitting in with Mullen & MSU culture either.

I hear you, I'm just ready to see some playmakers at receiver.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-12-2017, 02:50 PM
I hear you, I'm just ready to see some playmakers at receiver.

I agree but I think this class has that so far in Heath, Guidry, & potentially with Whop. Also I really like Watson. I think he's going to be a good 1 whether at WR or on defense.

Dawg Daze
10-12-2017, 03:57 PM
I agree but I think this class has that so far in Heath, Guidry, & potentially with Whop. Also I really like Watson. I think he's going to be a good 1 whether at WR or on defense.

I could see Watson at CB to be honest. He seemed to be good at reading the quarterback. The videos at WR didn't wow me in the least bit. His size is whats great about him. Plus it wouldn't hurt for a little depth at our DB level.

Bully13
10-12-2017, 04:06 PM
I hear you, I'm just ready to see some playmakers at receiver.

Merritt, from what I read will have a tough time finding a place to play at the next level. tsun may take him though.

Dawg Daze
10-12-2017, 04:16 PM
Merritt, from what I read will have a tough time finding a place to play at the next level. tsun may take him though.

They won't have much choice when everyone decides to transfer out of OM.

Commercecomet24
10-12-2017, 04:36 PM
Merritt, from what I read will have a tough time finding a place to play at the next level. tsun may take him though.

Heard the same. He has "baggage".

Bully13
10-12-2017, 04:53 PM
Heard the same. He has "baggage".

yep, something the article referred to as "junk exposure". not sure what that it is but I guess it was bad enough to get him kicked off the team.****

Ifyouonlyknew
10-12-2017, 06:05 PM
I could see Watson at CB to be honest. He seemed to be good at reading the quarterback. The videos at WR didn't wow me in the least bit. His size is whats great about him. Plus it wouldn't hurt for a little depth at our DB level.

Safety maybe no way he can play CB though

Shake 'n Bake
10-12-2017, 06:17 PM
So if Hevesy is really the reason we’re in on bleich, maybe we should put him strictly on offensive linemen from above the mason Dixon line. Maybe his Schtick is better received up there and then we can let looney recruit all southern OL

Bully13
10-12-2017, 06:22 PM
So if Hevesy is really the reason we’re in on bleich, maybe we should put him strictly on offensive linemen from above the mason Dixon line. Maybe his Schtick is better received up there and then we can let looney recruit all southern OL

So Hevesy IS the guy recruiting Bleich?

Commercecomet24
10-12-2017, 07:32 PM
yep, something the article referred to as "junk exposure". not sure what that it is but I guess it was bad enough to get him kicked off the team.****

Lol there?s your ?baggage?

hailmari
10-12-2017, 07:40 PM
Is Willie Allen an option for us?

Bothrops
10-12-2017, 08:10 PM
I could see Watson at CB to be honest. He seemed to be good at reading the quarterback. The videos at WR didn't wow me in the least bit. His size is whats great about him. Plus it wouldn't hurt for a little depth at our DB level.

Watson has some very impressive numbers at receiver, thus far. The best out of the group, in fact.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-12-2017, 08:27 PM
Is Willie Allen an option for us?

He's struggled in Juco & we don't need another guard.

HoopsDawg
10-12-2017, 10:07 PM
Lol there?s your ?baggage?

He just had jock itch. *

Todd4State
10-12-2017, 11:50 PM
So if Hevesy is really the reason we?re in on bleich, maybe we should put him strictly on offensive linemen from above the mason Dixon line. Maybe his Schtick is better received up there and then we can let looney recruit all southern OL

I know that Looney is recruiting Carvin and that Hevesy recruited Dolla Bill. If Hevesy lands a strong o-line class I will give him credit for that, or Looney and Hevesy if that is the case. Probably both to an extent. I don't necessarily hold a grudge for making a mistake- I do if the mistakes are repeated over and over. That's why I haven't been nearly as hard on Billy Gonzalez despite the fact that mistakes were made in WR recruiting in the past- a 4* JUCO WR and an UA AA 4* WR will do that- not to mention the possibility of adding another 4* WR plus I think Patterson is grossly underrated. And also why I have been very vocal about Hevesy.

I wouldn't be surprised in the offseason with the extra coaches spot available if we make Hevesy the "Offensive Coordinator" and then promote Looney to o-line coach and then bring in Peterson as the TE coach. Hevesy helps with the game planning as it is and as we all know his strength is in coaching. He could certainly do that from his position as OC. That would allow Looney to recruit and then we wouldn't have the issue that we have had in the past where o-line recruits wanted to "get to know their position coach". It fits on paper at least.

That said, at this point o-line is still probably our position group of biggest need and is the least filled out at this point with only two commits in the fold. Long way to go- but the good news is we at least have the highest rated one committed at this point.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-13-2017, 08:11 AM
Billy G is Carvin primary recruiter not Looney. Hev already has the OC title. Don't expect him to stop being the OL coach.

Todd4State
10-13-2017, 08:12 AM
Billy G is Carvin primary recruiter not Looney. Hev already has the OC title. Don't expect him to stop being the OL coach.

I saw that Looney was visiting Carvin during the bye week. That's interesting.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-13-2017, 09:38 AM
I saw that Looney was visiting Carvin during the bye week. That's interesting.

That was because Hev was in Pennsylvania visiting Bleich.

Ari Gold
10-13-2017, 09:44 AM
Coach Gibson also very involved with Carvin. If we don't get him it won't be because of lack of effort. Just a matter of closing him.

Bully13
10-13-2017, 09:44 AM
If you haven't listened / watched Carvin's interview on 247, I'd encourage it. I really like this guy, would love to have him on our team. I find it interesting too that of the 3 finalists, we are closer to home than the other 2.

cuspid
10-13-2017, 10:40 AM
How did Aaron morgan do last night on ESPN2?

Bully13
10-13-2017, 10:49 AM
How did Aaron morgan do last night on ESPN2?

didn't see that but would be interested to know more about him if anyone has any info on the guy since 247 doesn't blow you away on him.

Ari Gold
10-13-2017, 01:01 PM
How did Aaron morgan do last night on ESPN2?

Don't expect Morgan to be in this class.. couple more to come ..

jumbo
10-13-2017, 01:01 PM
didn't see that but would be interested to know more about him if anyone has any info on the guy since 247 doesn't blow you away on him.


He's not going to be in this class.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
10-13-2017, 01:30 PM
Don't expect Morgan to be in this class.. couple more to come ..

https://twitter.com/17goinglive/status/918888828181663744

Todd4State
10-13-2017, 01:36 PM
https://twitter.com/17goinglive/status/918888828181663744

And there it is.

Ari Gold
10-13-2017, 02:40 PM
https://twitter.com/17goinglive/status/918888828181663744

My guess he ends up with the Fighting Kiffins

Ifyouonlyknew
10-13-2017, 03:00 PM
My guess he ends up with the Fighting Kiffins

I'm going with Charlie Strong

Commercecomet24
10-13-2017, 03:11 PM
I'm guessing Morgan is a "numbers" move.

HoopsDawg
10-13-2017, 04:00 PM
Don't expect Morgan to be in this class.. couple more to come ..

McDowell, Ross, Cumbest, and Robinson are our lowest rated guys and they all committed back in the summer. I'm not counting Gardner b/c he's from Starkville.

We think Patterson is a no go due to grades. And there's another kid or two who are iffy on grades.

Need to sign Mason, Whop, a Juco Corner, and 3 more offensive linemen. So probably need to process 2 more commits.

JimmyMcNulty
10-13-2017, 04:13 PM
Robinson next?

HoopsDawg
10-13-2017, 04:17 PM
Robinson next?

2 weeks ago, I would have said yes, but I read recently he may get a ratings bump. Apparently he is having a good senior year.

HoopsDawg
10-13-2017, 04:19 PM
Robinson next?

If we get Mason, that's 3 safety commits + Marcus Murphy who could play S. I would look to the lowest rated S.

BankerDog
10-13-2017, 04:52 PM
Robinson will be a stud here.

Todd4State
10-13-2017, 05:02 PM
If we get Mason, that's 3 safety commits + Marcus Murphy who could play S. I would look to the lowest rated S.

Murphy might play on offense.

Todd4State
10-13-2017, 05:04 PM
McDowell, Ross, Cumbest, and Robinson are our lowest rated guys and they all committed back in the summer. I'm not counting Gardner b/c he's from Starkville.

We think Patterson is a no go due to grades. And there's another kid or two who are iffy on grades.

Need to sign Mason, Whop, a Juco Corner, and 3 more offensive linemen. So probably need to process 2 more commits.

I don't think we need a JUCO corner. We can go with Peters and Dantzler and will be in decent shape.

cuspid
10-13-2017, 05:49 PM
Never understood the juco corner unless they immediately improve our talent with Cole redshirting

Todd4State
10-13-2017, 06:26 PM
Never understood the juco corner unless they immediately improve our talent with Cole redshirting

Agree. To me it needs to be Savion Smith for it to be a take for me.

HoopsDawg
10-13-2017, 11:28 PM
Never understood the juco corner unless they immediately improve our talent with Cole redshirting

Cole is probably moving back to S. We only have 2 corners back and neither are necessarily proven. Need 4 good corners on the roster. Antonio Nelson is very good.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-14-2017, 07:54 AM
Cole is probably moving back to S. We only have 2 corners back and neither are necessarily proven. Need 4 good corners on the roster. Antonio Nelson is very good.

The biggest downside on Nelson is wouldn't be here til the summer. Not being here for spring ball makes him less valuable.

Bully13
10-14-2017, 09:16 AM
The biggest downside on Nelson is wouldn't be here til the summer. Not being here for spring ball makes him less valuable.

despite that downside, are we still keeping the offer on the table or are we / him looking for options? do we have a history of signing jucos not ready for spring ball? that does seem to be a downside all things considered.

HoopsDawg
10-14-2017, 10:04 AM
despite that downside, are we still keeping the offer on the table or are we / him looking for options? do we have a history of signing jucos not ready for spring ball? that does seem to be a downside all things considered.

Darius Slay missed the spring.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-14-2017, 04:45 PM
Darius Slay missed the spring.

I don't think Nelson has Slay ability. Plus Slay did very little the 1st 1/2 of his Jr season.

HoopsDawg
10-14-2017, 04:58 PM
I don't think Nelson has Slay ability. Plus Slay did very little the 1st 1/2 of his Jr season.

I think Nelson is clearly better than our 3rd CB. To me, that makes him a take. But maybe we can flip Harris. Kansas is so awful, I can't imagine him sticking there.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-14-2017, 05:11 PM
I think Nelson is clearly better than our 3rd CB. To me, that makes him a take. But maybe we can flip Harris. Kansas is so awful, I can't imagine him sticking there.

Yea I don't disagree there. Yea we'll see on Corione when he OV.

bostondawg
10-14-2017, 07:32 PM
Do we think that Whop and Harris are a package deal?

Ifyouonlyknew
10-14-2017, 07:37 PM
Do we think that Whop and Harris are a package deal?

No. I think they'd love to play together but it's not a must.

Bully13
10-14-2017, 07:48 PM
I think Nelson is clearly better than our 3rd CB. To me, that makes him a take. But maybe we can flip Harris. Kansas is so awful, I can't imagine him sticking there.

wtf was that commitment all about anyway? your talking about the WR, right?

HoopsDawg
10-14-2017, 08:24 PM
wtf was that commitment all about anyway? your talking about the WR, right?

Harris and Whop(devonta jason) committed to Kansas b/c their old coach went there.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-14-2017, 10:43 PM
Harris and Whop(devonta jason) committed to Kansas b/c their old coach went there.

He wasn't their coach but he was from New Orleans. Hull was the coach at Warren Easton.

state66
10-15-2017, 02:39 PM
Yea I don't disagree there. Yea we'll see on Corione when he OV.

Are we in it for one of his OV?s? Havent heard much lately about Corinne. Has he released a top 4?

Ari Gold
10-15-2017, 05:52 PM
Cole is probably moving back to S. We only have 2 corners back and neither are necessarily proven. Need 4 good corners on the roster. Antonio Nelson is very good.

Cole may have a shot at CB. But he will get reps no matter where he ends up S or CB. Would have gotten them this year if not for having to red shirt.

Ari Gold
10-15-2017, 05:54 PM
Looks ,like 24/7 is on the Ari Gold Carvin to State forecast ( sorry ISID had to use ur line there)

HoopsDawg
10-15-2017, 06:34 PM
Cole may have a shot at CB. But he will get reps no matter where he ends up S or CB. Would have gotten them this year if not for having to red shirt.

The game has changed. It's more important for your safeties to have coverage ability than it is for them to be head hunters. Cole has moved to corner to improve his coverage skills. Only way he stays at Corner is if we don't have good depth there.

HoopsDawg
10-15-2017, 06:35 PM
Looks ,like 24/7 is on the Ari Gold Carvin to State forecast ( sorry ISID had to use ur line there)

Finally building a good O-line if we can sign Carvin, Dollar Bill, and Bleich to go along with Suggs in the last class. Also, all 5 starters from the BYU game returning.

Commercecomet24
10-15-2017, 06:40 PM
The game has changed. It's more important for your safeties to have coverage ability than it is for them to be head hunters. Cole has moved to corner to improve his coverage skills. Only way he stays at Corner is if we don't have good depth there.

Good point. This is happening at all levels now. The Pats are playing a big nickel a lot of times with 3 safeties and using McCourty and Chung who are safeties in cb roles and Harmon at free.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-15-2017, 08:20 PM
The game has changed. It's more important for your safeties to have coverage ability than it is for them to be head hunters. Cole has moved to corner to improve his coverage skills. Only way he stays at Corner is if we don't have good depth there.

Also won't be surprised to see Cole playing the JT Gray role next year either.

DeputyDawg94
10-22-2017, 11:04 PM
Any idea on where Jalen Cunningham is leaning?

Ifyouonlyknew
10-23-2017, 07:35 AM
Any idea on where Jalen Cunningham is leaning?

Not a take for Bama or MSU right now.

dawggrad08
10-23-2017, 08:06 AM
Not a take for Bama or MSU right now.

Any new news on Whop? Has LSU started back with him?

Ifyouonlyknew
10-23-2017, 09:39 AM
Any new news on Whop? Has LSU started back with him?

LSU has been on Whop hard for the last 3 months

dawggrad08
10-23-2017, 10:11 AM
LSU has been on Whop hard for the last 3 months

Terrible news lol. LA kid with legit LSU interests is gonna be tough.

Another question. Is Jamar Chase still locked in to UF? They look horrible and would a possible coaching shake up do anything with his commitment?

Ifyouonlyknew
10-23-2017, 10:41 AM
Terrible news lol. LA kid with legit LSU interests is gonna be tough.

Another question. Is Jamar Chase still locked in to UF? They look horrible and would a possible coaching shake up do anything with his commitment?

It's not like Whop just got an LSU offer or interest. He was committed to LSU before Kansas so they aren't new to him. We'll see if goes back that direction.
Mcelwain isn't getting fired but LSU people are still hiding out hope.

Ari Gold
10-23-2017, 11:12 AM
Terrible news lol. LA kid with legit LSU interests is gonna be tough.

Another question. Is Jamar Chase still locked in to UF? They look horrible and would a possible coaching shake up do anything with his commitment?

Terrible news would be Whop isn't very interested in MSU.. and that's not the case.
Everyone just chill on Whop and let's see what happens.

JETDAWG
10-24-2017, 02:51 PM
I have heard that Fabian Franklin from Hattiesburg may not be eligible and will be sign and place anyone heard anything

Ifyouonlyknew
10-24-2017, 02:59 PM
I have heard that Fabian Franklin from Hattiesburg may not be eligible and will be sign and place anyone heard anything

That's been expected well before he committed to MSU

JETDAWG
10-25-2017, 11:11 AM
I'm still not clear as to the benefit of sign and place if he was never going to be elidgeable. We waste a spot on a guy who will play at PRCC next year. I have never understood the sign and place

1bigdawg
10-25-2017, 11:15 AM
I'm still not clear as to the benefit of sign and place if he was never going to be elidgeable. We waste a spot on a guy who will play at PRCC next year. I have never understood the sign and place

There is no downside to signing and placing him. We can sign up to 32, I think, this year and do not have roster spots for that many. If he makes it in, he is a great talent. If he does not, then he is "reserved" for us in two years if he continues to pan out.

Next year, there is a hard 25 signee limit. Then it will be a much tougher call.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-25-2017, 11:27 AM
This year will be the last year for sign & place

Todd4State
10-25-2017, 11:53 AM
This year will be the last year for sign & place

I suspect it will be done privately but we'lol see.

Ifyouonlyknew
10-25-2017, 01:01 PM
I suspect it will be done privately but we'lol see.

Of course we'll tell kids we'll sign you in 2yrs but those kids won't be signing scholarship papers anymore. P

Cary Hudson's little bro
10-26-2017, 11:49 AM
What is the latest on Myles Mason and Jerome Carvin? Saivion Smith still a possibility? Would you say less than 10% chance?

Ifyouonlyknew
10-26-2017, 11:52 AM
What is the latest on Myles Mason and Jerome Carvin? Saivion Smith still a possibility? Would you say less than 10% chance?

Myles hold on a few minutes
Carvin still lead but A&M trying to make it a battle
Savion don't expect him

bostondawg
10-26-2017, 01:00 PM
4* safety Myles Mason makes it official to MSU.

Dawg Daze
10-26-2017, 01:55 PM
Can someone explain to me why Murphy, Crumedy, and Johnson are all showing up as 4-stars right now on 247's top MS recruits, but only show up as 3-stars on our page?

Todd4State
10-26-2017, 02:00 PM
Can someone explain to me why Murphy, Crumedy, and Johnson are all showing up as 4-stars right now on 247's top MS recruits, but only show up as 3-stars on our page?

One is the 247 ranking- 4 stars

The other is the composite ranking across all recruiting sites.

Dawg Daze
10-26-2017, 02:03 PM
One is the 247 ranking- 4 stars

The other is the composite ranking across all recruiting sites.

Thanks for clarifying, Todd!

HoopsDawg
10-26-2017, 02:27 PM
4* safety Myles Mason makes it official to MSU.

I don't see how we can take mason, murphy, ross, and preston?

Todd4State
10-26-2017, 02:39 PM
Thanks for clarifying, Todd!

You're welcome!

Todd4State
10-26-2017, 02:40 PM
I don't see how we can take mason, murphy, ross, and preston?

Murphy could play on offense potentially. We may play two as true freshman and then redshirt the other two if we wish.

Ari Gold
10-26-2017, 06:00 PM
I don't see how we can take mason, murphy, ross, and preston?

Why not ???

HoopsDawg
10-26-2017, 07:20 PM
Why not ???

4 safeties seems like a lot when we have 26 commits and still need 2 or 3 more offensive linemen, another WR, and could use a corner.

Shake 'n Bake
10-26-2017, 07:55 PM
I’m not sure all 4 will be safeties, but even if they are cj morgan and Landon Guidry are the only safeties we have that aren’t upperclassmen. Need at least 3 to make up for the fact that we’re losing 4 in the next two years

HoopsDawg
10-26-2017, 08:03 PM
I’m not sure all 4 will be safeties, but even if they are cj morgan and Landon Guidry are the only safeties we have that aren’t upperclassmen. Need at least 3 to make up for the fact that we’re losing 4 in the next two years

If they are all SEC quality, then I'm all for it. But that could be a place we might look to make room. I'm just speculating though. I do hope we can sign Whop, Carvin, Bleich, and Nelson/Harris. We probably have a couple of other targets too.

Ari Gold
10-26-2017, 08:12 PM
4 safeties seems like a lot when we have 26 commits and still need 2 or 3 more offensive linemen, another WR, and could use a corner.

The numbers will work out..

HoopsDawg
10-26-2017, 08:14 PM
The numbers will work out..

the numbers have to work out, so yeah.

Ari Gold
10-26-2017, 08:36 PM
the numbers have to work out, so yeah.

We will make room if need be.. and you can check Mason off my list of who we close with..

Shake 'n Bake
10-26-2017, 09:01 PM
I actually don’t disagree that safety could be a spot where we might trim some fat, just don’t necessarily think that 4 safeties is an absurd number with what we have on campus.

HoopsDawg
10-26-2017, 09:37 PM
True or False: If he was going to qualify, Patterson would be our top WR commit. I say True and it's not that close.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
10-26-2017, 09:52 PM
True or False: If he was going to qualify, Patterson would be our top WR commit. I say True and it's not that close.

False

HoopsDawg
10-26-2017, 10:31 PM
False

Who is?

CadaverDawg
10-26-2017, 11:13 PM
Whop was sporting the LSU gloves in his HS game tonight. I fully see him as a guy we only have a shot with if LSU chooses not to take him...not bc of gloves,but bc it's hard to pull Louisiana guys that LSU wants at all. What's their WR situation look like, & does it look like they can steal the UF commit they're after? Will Whop be a take for them regardless?

Also, who would you compare him to on the college level? What kind of WR do people expect him to be in the SEC?

Dawg-gone-dawgs
10-26-2017, 11:29 PM
Who is?

uh Malik Heath maybe?

Dawg-gone-dawgs
10-26-2017, 11:33 PM
Whop was sporting the LSU gloves in his HS game tonight. I fully see him as a guy we only have a shot with if LSU chooses not to take him...not bc of gloves,but bc it's hard to pull Louisiana guys that LSU wants at all. What's their WR situation look like, & does it look like they can steal the UF commit they're after? Will Whop be a take for them regardless?

Also, who would you compare him to on the college level? What kind of WR do people expect him to be in the SEC?

If he meant what he said when he said that he wants to go not necessarily where he's wanted but where he is needed then it obviously should be us but you know how that goes

Todd4State
10-26-2017, 11:48 PM
Whop was sporting the LSU gloves in his HS game tonight. I fully see him as a guy we only have a shot with if LSU chooses not to take him...not bc of gloves,but bc it's hard to pull Louisiana guys that LSU wants at all. What's their WR situation look like, & does it look like they can steal the UF commit they're after? Will Whop be a take for them regardless?

Also, who would you compare him to on the college level? What kind of WR do people expect him to be in the SEC?

LSU already has a couple of WR's committed in this class, but O is the guy that helped develop Ole Miss's recruiting strategy so no telling how many they take.

I expect him to be a solid outside go to WR in college who could be used in the slot at times. I would compare him in style to Dez Bryant.

Todd4State
10-26-2017, 11:50 PM
True or False: If he was going to qualify, Patterson would be our top WR commit. I say True and it's not that close.

I think it would be between him and Heath but there is no doubt that Patterson would be a 4 star if his grades were better. I think Heath and Patterson are a little bit different though. Heath is more of an outside guy and Patterson I could see him playing in the slot for us kind of like Fred Ross.