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msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:02 PM
Attendance doesn't look good

BeardoMSU
01-31-2017, 07:03 PM
Beat you by a minute, lol.

Yeah, outside of the student section, that place is empty.

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:03 PM
Q is so stinking lazy.

Also, this arena sucks. The camera angle is garbage.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:05 PM
OM with 2 offensive rebs
State with 2 TOs

Long night if this doesn change

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:07 PM
We're not quite in synch yet. Let's hope that improves before it's too late.

lamont
01-31-2017, 07:08 PM
Peters has such a sweet shot

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:09 PM
Peters shooting well so far.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:09 PM
We're a terrible rebounding team

civildawg
01-31-2017, 07:10 PM
Man we suck at rebounding

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:10 PM
Who are the announcers tonight? Didn't pay attention when it was on the screen.

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:10 PM
We travel more than any team I've ever seen.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:10 PM
OM gets to shoot till they score and we can't take care of ball.

starkvegasdawg
01-31-2017, 07:11 PM
Shit, Holman, you don't need 15 pump fakes.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:12 PM
Shit, Holman, you don't need 15 pump fakes.

Just go up and get fouled

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:13 PM
Shit, Holman, you don't need 15 pump fakes.

Haha for real. Our big men need to figure out that when you have the ball above your head, there's no rule that says you must dribble before you go up with it.

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:14 PM
Stop being so freaking lazy with the passes, Q. What in the heck.

Westdawg
01-31-2017, 07:14 PM
The wife and I scored some awesome tickets for tonight's game. Sitting behind our bench about 12 rows up.
....I will add that the Pavillion beats the Hump...and their Courtside Club amenities are very nice as well. Like I said....we scored some great seats

And Hail State!!!

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:16 PM
They get a good look every possession. For howland to be a defensive guy, we sure suck at defense

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:20 PM
The wife and I scored some awesome tickets for tonight's game. Sitting behind our bench about 12 rows up.
....I will add that the Pavillion beats the Hump...and their Courtside Club amenities are very nice as well. Like I said....we scored some great seats

And Hail State!!!

Morgan Freeman is there. Can't tell where he's sitting but it looks pretty close to the floor.

CadaverDawg
01-31-2017, 07:20 PM
The wife and I scored some awesome tickets for tonight's game. Sitting behind our bench about 12 rows up.
....I will add that the Pavillion beats the Hump...and their Courtside Club amenities are very nice as well. Like I said....we scored some great seats

And Hail State!!!

It's brand new, so it better be nicer than the hump

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:21 PM
What's the significance of 77 for the Bears?

CadaverDawg
01-31-2017, 07:22 PM
We bout to get killed

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:22 PM
This team has regressed to pre-season days. Terrible half.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:23 PM
There no doubt who the better team is. We can't generate good shots... just 3s. We can't rebound defensively. They get good looks every possession

starkvegasdawg
01-31-2017, 07:23 PM
Do our guys know you don't get more than three points by shooting at half court?

drummerdawg
01-31-2017, 07:23 PM
What the he'll is Stapleton good for?

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:24 PM
How'd Peters miss that layup??

Cloak
01-31-2017, 07:24 PM
Damn this is ugly. Lazy, lazy, lazy basketball

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:25 PM
Good bounce back... keep playing guys

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:25 PM
How is our defense this bad?

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:26 PM
Kegler shooting 3's pretty well.

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:27 PM
What was that off ball foul on Herard about? Anyone see it?

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:27 PM
Been close, but just can't quite take the lead. Which may be a good thing ... they might slack off then.

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:28 PM
How is that a foul?

civildawg
01-31-2017, 07:28 PM
What the heck was that foul call? NCAA needs to fix this crap on post ups

WeWonItAll(Most)
01-31-2017, 07:28 PM
What was that off ball foul on Herard about? Anyone see it?

Dude gets multiple off ball fouls every game.

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:28 PM
How is that a foul?

I have no idea.

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:29 PM
What was that off ball foul on Herard about? Anyone see it?


Juts rewound. I'll admit that I don't know the rules very well, but it looked like he was blocking out and backed into the guy.

Westdawg
01-31-2017, 07:30 PM
Morgan Freeman is there. Can't tell where he's sitting but it looks pretty close to the floor.

He's directly across court from State team.

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:31 PM
I hate SEC officiating. Saiz able to over the back at will.

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:33 PM
And now the officials are inserting their will.

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:34 PM
We just don't really know what we're doing right now. Like we're thinking too much.

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:34 PM
So Q gives up a wide open three point shot and goes for the contested layup that leads to a 3 point play attempt on the other end.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:36 PM
We are not good. Howland needs to re-learn teaching defense bc it's an abomination

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:36 PM
This is rediculous and an embarrassing effort by our basketball team. This is our wtf game.

civildawg
01-31-2017, 07:36 PM
I'm not going to lie, I thought we would be better than this by now. We can't rebound or play defense. That's not talent, that's effort

Saltydog
01-31-2017, 07:36 PM
Defense is effort and we don't have much of that on the defensive end.

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:37 PM
We are not good. Howland needs to re-learn teaching defense bc it's an abomination

There's no excuse for this type of effort this late in the season. It's embarrassing.

Big4Dawg
01-31-2017, 07:37 PM
Quit watching. We get zero calls.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:37 PM
This is rediculous and an embarrassing effort by our basketball team. This is our wtf game.

We've lost our last 3 vs teams with a pulse. Not sure what you expected. We still can't rebound and now without ready we can't take care of the ball

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:38 PM
This is rediculous and an embarrassing effort by our basketball team. This is our wtf game.

Hasn't that pretty much been our norm since the Kentucky game?

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:38 PM
Defense and rebounding is not all about effort. That's a big part of it for sure, but you have to understand positioning and work together.

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:39 PM
We've struggled to stop people all year. But we were forcing more turnovers and using defense to create offense more when things were going well. We're not getting any of that right now.

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:40 PM
This is a joke right now. Just totally lost.

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:40 PM
Q is sucking in all facets of the game right now.

Delmar
01-31-2017, 07:40 PM
We can't do anything offensively with Peters out of the game.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:41 PM
This is a joke right now. Just totally lost.

And this is after TO after TO. Howland can't reach them... we've taken terrible shots out of TOs

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:42 PM
Shaping up to be one of our worst, if not THE worst, game of the year.

Saltydog
01-31-2017, 07:42 PM
lack thereof........This is effing embarrassing.....We're gonna lose by 20 to these grunts......

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:43 PM
lack thereof........This is effing embarrassing.....We're gonna lose by 20 to these grunts......

It's already 16 .....

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:43 PM
Stop effing dribbling when you get the ball right at the basket. Good gosh.

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:44 PM
Has Stapleton hit the rim yet tonight?

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:44 PM
When you let people drive by you, it's because you're not in the right position. Sure, it can be effort, but I seriously doubt that's the issue. If you cheat to one side or don't keep your legs under you, you're done.

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:45 PM
I'm not watching this shit. Howland needs to apologize to the fans for this abysmal effort.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:45 PM
OM sets new 1st half record for points vs us this year. Howland isn't above criticism and this is his baby imo. This is juco level basketball

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:46 PM
Has Stapleton hit the rim yet tonight?

He's terrible at shooting 3s yet howland doesn't pull him for it

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:46 PM
OM sets new 1st half record for points vs us this year. Howland isn't above criticism and this is his baby imo. This is juco level basketball

Pretty confident this isn't the most they've ever scored in the 1st half.

HailState39110
01-31-2017, 07:47 PM
Giving up 51 at half is embarrassing . We show no energy on the defensive end . Leaving shooters wide open , rebounding is pathetic

lamont
01-31-2017, 07:47 PM
I'm not watching this shit. Howland needs to apologize to the fans for this abysmal effort.

This is just the 1st one Marketing- our next 5 after this is going to be rough too

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 07:47 PM
Pretty confident this isn't the most they've ever scored in the 1st half.

This season, not forever.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:47 PM
I'm not watching this shit. Howland needs to apologize to the fans for this abysmal effort.

The fans will show this team and howland what we think of this effort Saturday in attendance. No way I'm going

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:48 PM
Pretty confident this isn't the most they've ever scored in the 1st half.

This year

smootness
01-31-2017, 07:49 PM
This year

Haha we calling that a record?

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:49 PM
When you let people drive by you, it's because you're not in the right position. Sure, it can be effort, but I seriously doubt that's the issue. If you cheat to one side or don't keep your legs under you, you're done.

It's effort and it's their belief that they don't have to play hard the whole game and still come back to win it. This started in the Tennessee game and has continued through until now. They played like shit against Missouri but because they out talented them were able to pick it up in the second half. I hate the mentality of this team and Q is also part of it. His man has made three wide open threes. Q has passed up two straight wide open threes for two contested layups that ended up in a transition three and a three point play. Just terrible effort the whole way around.

Vandelay Industries
01-31-2017, 07:49 PM
Pathetic. Thought we would take a step up this year and that's obviously not going to happen.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:51 PM
Haha we calling that a record?

I'm so mad the right words aren't coming to me. We. Are. Pathetic! I predicted we'd lose, but OM shouldn't blow out anyone in the sec, but they are

MarketingBully
01-31-2017, 07:51 PM
Howland deserves all the criticism for this. He needs to light their asses up after this. I'm sick and tired of having a talented team but getting beat by lesser teams. This shit is on him. He should of lit under their ass Saturday after a shit effort then as well. This is getting rediculous.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 07:53 PM
One thing I'm concerned with with howland is when he was on top of his game he grinded games out defensively. I don't think this switch to quick shots is what he knows. I'm not sure we can play the howland style that made him great bc of the new rules

Big4Dawg
01-31-2017, 07:55 PM
One thing I'm concerned with with howland is when he was on top of his game he grounded games out defensively. I don't think this switch to quick shots is what he knows. I'm not sure we can play the howland style that made him great bc of the new rules

I was thinking this. Howland was a def guy at UCLA and that was pre-rule change. maybe his style just doesn't translate over to the post rule change era.

lamont
01-31-2017, 07:58 PM
Howland is having trouble adjusting to athletic guys playing basketball here in the South as opposed to basketball guys that are athletic he was used to in the West

Saltydog
01-31-2017, 08:05 PM
NT

Bothrops
01-31-2017, 08:09 PM
Our guys seem like they're weaker than the other teams.

LC Dawg
01-31-2017, 08:10 PM
What's the record for point blank shots missed in a game because we have got to have a good chance to break it.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 08:10 PM
Our guys seem like they're weaker than the other teams.

Probably are since they're younger

msstate7
01-31-2017, 08:16 PM
Why did he shoot that?

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 08:16 PM
Looks like the crowd has filled in. Did they move folks from the upper deck down like we do?

msstate7
01-31-2017, 08:18 PM
They can get to the basket at will... OM with no good drivers can drive on us at will

msstate7
01-31-2017, 08:21 PM
5th straight year OM is the better basketball team

msstate7
01-31-2017, 08:22 PM
Can anyone tell me any aspect of the game that we're good at?

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 08:24 PM
Well, we've closed the lead down quite a bit. That's something.

BeardoMSU
01-31-2017, 08:25 PM
I see the students are wearing "Flagship" shirts. Adorable.

MCsMGs
01-31-2017, 08:26 PM
Can anyone tell me any aspect of the game that we're good at?

According to the stats we are shooting better than them from 3 and FG.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 08:31 PM
Well it's over now.

msstate7
01-31-2017, 08:33 PM
If there were a WAR stat in basketball, Q would be around 0

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 08:33 PM
Well it's over now.

Yep

msstate7
01-31-2017, 08:35 PM
Remember dawg61 and myself throwing a fit over howland keeping strugg over tookie brown? Strugg never plays, tookie may be the MVP of his conference, and we have 0 PGs now

Tookie... 18.4 ppg 3.5 rpg 4.1 apg 1.7 steals

GTHOM
01-31-2017, 08:42 PM
Garbage ass effort from a team that hasnt given a shit since the kentucky game. The freshman is coming out in them since UK

BayouDawg
01-31-2017, 08:48 PM
It takes a real efffort to regress this much in such a short amount of time. This rivals stansburys last year

CJDAWG85
01-31-2017, 08:48 PM
Man y'all need to chill out. Did y'all really expect to win tonight? They still have to come to us and the game could easily be in our favor. OM couldn't do anything wrong tonight.

Bothrops
01-31-2017, 08:49 PM
We're playing worse and worse by the minute.

GTHOM
01-31-2017, 08:49 PM
Man y'all need to chill out. Did y'all really expect to win tonight? They still have to come to us and the game could easily be in our favor. OM couldn't do anything wrong tonight.

Besides shooting like shit in the 2nd half and them being an overall average at best basketball team yeah

Bothrops
01-31-2017, 08:51 PM
It takes a real efffort to regress this much in such a short amount of time. This rivals stansburys last year

I bet Dick Williams would have this bunch rolling by now.

LC Dawg
01-31-2017, 08:52 PM
Rick Ray's teams played Ole Miss better than this.
Those Flagship shirts are just one of a million reasons I want to beat Ole Miss at everything and it's damn embarrassing to get hammered like this.

RocketDawg
01-31-2017, 08:54 PM
lack thereof........This is effing embarrassing.....We're gonna lose by 20 to these grunts......

27

LC Dawg
01-31-2017, 08:55 PM
We should never lose to Ole Miss by 27. That's unacceptable.

Cloak
01-31-2017, 08:55 PM
Announcer just said worst loss to the bears since '51

msstate7
01-31-2017, 08:59 PM
Announcer just said worst loss to the bears since '51

1951! Howland built this game up saying most important game all season and whatever. I don't care if he has had a great coaching history... it's time to do more than recruit! The game we're hanging our hat on (Kentucky) was a 17-point deficit in the 2nd half. We are falling apart at the seams and I wanna see something besides future potential #yeahimmelting

Bothrops
01-31-2017, 09:01 PM
Is Howland homesick? He seemed completely disconnected tonight and it's not the first time.

GTHOM
01-31-2017, 09:09 PM
Is Howland homesick? He seemed completely disconnected tonight and it's not the first time.

Sometimes you just have had enough

msstate7
01-31-2017, 09:14 PM
I'd trade our top 10 class last season for Tennessee's 48th ranked class. The difference is tenn went and got players from the state of North Carolina. Barnes is coaching circles around howland

Bothrops
01-31-2017, 09:21 PM
You definitely have to coach kids from Mississippi and Alabama a lot harder than guys from NC or CA, or MN. It's just the way it is.

HSVDawg
01-31-2017, 10:25 PM
You definitely have to coach kids from Mississippi and Alabama a lot harder than guys from NC or CA, or MN. It's just the way it is.

Not sure what the point is here. Hardly anyone in our rotation is from MS or AL. Q and Keglar are the only ones in the starting 5, and Q is our best player by far. Stapleton and Carter are the only other 2 that even play regularly. The only one of those 4 that hasn't been playing up to their potential is Keglar maybe.

Pollodawg
01-31-2017, 10:32 PM
Every time I try to get invested in MSU men's hoops again, we crap all over ourselves. Come one, baseball.

Reunion Dog
02-01-2017, 12:57 AM
Total embarrassment tonight. Everyone quit.. including the coaches. This is all on the male cheerleader from Jackson Prep.... He is still 17'ing us..... Stansbury and Western Kentucky would kick our wussy asses.... Q is as over rated as much as Howland.

MarketingBully
02-01-2017, 02:10 AM
I'd trade our top 10 class last season for Tennessee's 48th ranked class. The difference is tenn went and got players from the state of North Carolina. Barnes is coaching circles around howland

It's weird because he is benching players and disciplining them. For whatever reason, he has been unable to connect with them like he did in the three game win streak. There is only so much a coach can do. We have to have leadership from the players. The players have to have accountability for laying this dinosaur size turd tonight. I'd be embarrassed if I were these kids and had that kind of effort. Howland is a great coach. I am very perplexed by the level of shittiness we played with tonight.

MarketingBully
02-01-2017, 02:11 AM
I'd trade our top 10 class last season for Tennessee's 48th ranked class. The difference is tenn went and got players from the state of North Carolina. Barnes is coaching circles around howland

Kegler went to Oak Hill. He should be a much more polished player then this. Look at Braxton Key. Sometimes it's on the player.

louisvilledawg
02-01-2017, 09:23 AM
Total embarrassment tonight. Everyone quit.. including the coaches. This is all on the male cheerleader from Jackson Prep.... He is still 17'ing us..... Stansbury and Western Kentucky would kick our wussy asses.... Q is as over rated as much as Howland.

Delete your account.

Q didn't play great, still a little lazy with some passes, but don't think he's overrated by any stretch of the imagination.

Liverpooldawg
02-01-2017, 10:09 AM
We still are very inconsistent inside. That goes double against teams that have even one pretty good inside guy. They abused us inside all night.

MarketingBully
02-01-2017, 10:21 AM
We still are very inconsistent inside. That goes double against teams that have even one pretty good inside guy. They abused us inside all night.

That was an aberration last night. It was the worst I have seen us play in a long long time. Everyone played like shit.