Bulovas

[msstate7]

Bama fans on tRant saying he just committed to bama

[msstate7]

I am extremely Blessed and excited to announce that I have committed to the University of Alabama!!! #RollTide #TeamSailer

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Oh well, we can still win games without a kicker.

[I seen it dawg]

Thanks hevesy

[msstate7]

Oh well, we can still win games without a kicker.

At least he committed today and not Sunday. We need to contact jake lane out of Alabama

[Ifyouonlyknew]

This was a little shocking.

[Dawgology]

Thanks hevesy

Lol. Good one!

[HancockCountyDog]

This was a little shocking.

Nothing shocks me anymore when we are talking a week before signing day.

[msstate7]

This was a little shocking.

Who is our backup? Could day be the backup plan at kicker?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

At least he committed today and not Sunday. We need to contact jake lane out of Alabama

You keep bringing him up, but why? The guys brought up 2 other names in the recruiting thread and Lane hasn't been mentioned all year.

[Dawgology]

It's all a carefully orchestrated flipmas plan by Hevesy to flip an Alabama kicker commit on Signing Day!!! ***

[msstate7]

You keep bringing him up, but why? The guys brought up 2 other names in the recruiting thread and Lane hasn't been mentioned all year.

He's my son***

He finished 2nd in Chris sailer kicking competition behind Ruiz (ex-bama commit that flipped). He's a good kicker

[dawgday166]

This was a little shocking.

Not really. When Saban really wants someone and we're his only competition, he generally gets them (the bastard). I just wasn't sure if he really, really wanted Bulovas or not.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

He's my son***

He finished 2nd in Chris sailer kicking competition behind Ruiz (ex-bama commit that flipped). He's a good kicker

He's a good punter, not a good kicker...but that's just what I've read on the internet. Has to be true.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Thanks hevesy

NO....Thanks Boniol...

[msstate7]

He's a good punter, not a good kicker...but that's just what I've read on the internet. Has to be true.

He finished 2nd in the place kicking competition.

[dawgday166]

We shouldn't lose guys from our own backyard too often to Saban IMO. But Bulovas isn't from Mississippi. I don't think there is any blame to any on our staff with this recruitment, from what I've read and pieced together.

It's just the reality of MSU recruiting against Saban.

[ShotgunDawg]

We shouldn't lose guys from our own backyard too often to Saban IMO. But Bulovas isn't from Mississippi. I don't think there is any blame to any on our staff with this recruitment, from what I've read and pieced together.

It's just the reality of MSU recruiting against Saban.

Agree. What sucks here is that Bama didn't decide they wanted a kicker till now. If they could just send us a list of the 25 guys they want to sign in September, it would really help us out and signing the optimal 25 guys.

[dawgday166]

Agree. What sucks here is that Bama didn't decide they wanted a kicker till now. If they could just send us a list of the 25 guys they want to sign in September, it would really help us out and signing the optimal 25 guys.

Ha! Yea ... then we could save some time in recruiting. Saban's like a damn shark and when we start chewing on a morsel he thinks might could help him (and hurt us if he takes it away), he swoops in.

[lamont]

We couldn't recruit a horny teenager into a Hooters with a free meal gift card

[ShotgunDawg]

Ha! Yea ... then we could save some time in recruiting. Saban's like a damn shark and when we start chewing on a morsel he thinks might could help him (and hurt us if he takes it away), he swoops in.

Yeah. I'd would have loved to have Bulovas but I'm not going to melt over losing a kicker when there are other capable ones out there. The frustrating thing is how fluid Bama's recruiting board is and how them deciding on a player late in the process screws us on usually one player per year.

[dawgday166]

We couldn't recruit a horny teenager into a Hooters with a free meal gift card

While there is plenty to criticize with our recruiting efforts at times (and I do my share of criticizing), I just don't think this is one of them. Going head-to-head with Saban on an out-of-state kid is a losing proposition for us.

If we go to Iowa or Wyoming and recruit a 3* guy that could turn into an All-Pro LT if developed well and Saban comes in at the last minute, we'll lose.

[ShotgunDawg]

What makes me laugh here and displays how the player acquisition structure of college football is terrible is that Saban probably can't pronounce this guy's name and has probably only spoken to him once or twice. While our coaches have been working this kid for a year.

[dawgday166]

No doubt about it Gun. It sucks ... but it is what it is.

[Commercecomet24]

This definitely wasn't from lack of effort on our part. It's the Saban Effect, just dang!

[Irondawg]

Not to mention he committed without even visiting yet. I'm going to hold out 5% hope that Saban gave him an ultimatum and when he visits he hates their engineering school

[msstate7]

Not to mention he committed without even visiting yet. I'm going to hold out 5% hope that Saban gave him an ultimatum and when he visits he hates their engineering school

Wouldn't get hopes up. If engineering school is his main priority, GT kicks the crap out of us and bama. He gone... find a replacement

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Agree. What sucks here is that Bama didn't decide they wanted a kicker till now. If they could just send us a list of the 25 guys they want to sign in September, it would really help us out and signing the optimal 25 guys.

Naive to believe that...It's the #Sabanblock like with Lashley, he won't let us have nice things that could beat him. Once Bulovas de-committed and we cheered, Bama calls.

[RAYn_Man]

He was 11/25 on FG in High school, I think we'll survive.

[ShotgunDawg]

Naive to believe that...It's the #Sabanblock like with Lashley, he won't let us have nice things that could beat him. Once Bulovas de-committed and we cheered, Bama calls.

That's certainly what it seems like

[dawgday166]

Naive to believe that...It's the #Sabanblock like with Lashley, he won't let us have nice things that could beat him. Once Bulovas de-committed and we cheered, Bama calls.

We shouldn't have lost Lashley tho IMO. But yea, it's what Saban does.

[Really Clark?]

He was 11/25 on FG in High school, I think we'll survive.

Please don't do that. Those Max Prep numbers are wrong and he is an elite kicker with a strong leg. But it took a full offer from Bama to get him. He was signing with us otherwise and told multiple people and our staff that.

And no RP, our staff recruited him hard and well. We made a difficult choice to offer Day and lose another player (causing ensuing melt on the boards over it and second guessing our recruiting) to seal the deal. This one is not on us

[KB21]

This definitely wasn't from lack of effort on our part. It's the Saban Effect, just dang!

Contrary to popular opinion, we have not lost any recruits due to a lack of effort. That's made up BS by those who have an agenda to push. In most cases, we have been the first to show interest in recruits, and when they suddenly blow up and get interest from the blue bloods, they forget who was first and has spent the most time with them. It's hard to recruit against the mystique of Alabama. It's not a Saban effect. It's an Alabama effect.

[Bdawg]

Man I hate Bama. How do our next options compare to Bulovis? Anybody got a comparison?

[Really Clark?]

Man I hate Bama. How do our next options compare to Bulovis? Anybody got a comparison?

Man kicking recruiting is as hard as OL. But Williams has the leg strength to be NFL elite but not near as polished or consistant yet. Dillard it more consistant but he won't be as strong. Both have D1 offers but to come in day one, Buvolus is the one you felt good about being able to do that. And we have a difficult descision if we should offer a scholarship or preferred walk-on to the back ups.

[dawgday166]

Contrary to popular opinion, we have not lost any recruits due to a lack of effort. That's made up BS by those who have an agenda to push. In most cases, we have been the first to show interest in recruits, and when they suddenly blow up and get interest from the blue bloods, they forget who was first and has spent the most time with them. It's hard to recruit against the mystique of Alabama. It's not a Saban effect. It's an Alabama effect.

I think we keep Bulovas if Mike Shula is Bammer coach.

[dawgday166]

Please don't do that. Those Max Prep numbers are wrong and he is an elite kicker with a strong leg. But it took a full offer from Bama to get him. He was signing with us otherwise and told multiple people and our staff that.

And no RP, our staff recruited him hard and well. We made a difficult choice to offer Day and lose another player (causing ensuing melt on the boards over it and second guessing our recruiting) to seal the deal. This one is not on us

I'm not sure I saw the melt on the boards over Day. Maybe I'm slippin ****

[HoopsDawg]

Mullen just played Saban! Forced him to use a scholarship on a kicker. What a dummy.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Does Bama even have a kicking coach on campus? We've got an ex-NFL kicker and coach on staff.

[3rdGen]

We couldn't recruit a horny teenager into a Hooters with a free meal gift card

HAHA! THE HEV STRIKES BACK!****

[maroonmania]

He was 11/25 on FG in High school, I think we'll survive.

To me FG kicking in college is 80% about accuracy and maybe 20% about range. Give me a guy that is deadly accurate from 45 yards and in and I am fully satisfied. 11/25 is terrible unless he had a ton of kicks at 48+ yards.

[dawgday166]

Mullen just played Saban! Forced him to use a scholarship on a kicker. What a dummy.

Awww ... now I see the brilliance of Dan's plan. While Saban gonna be using scholarships on kickers and such, we using ours on closet 5* Olinemen no one else knows about and we're gonna kick his Dline's ass ****

[Bdawg]

Man kicking recruiting is as hard as OL. But Williams has the leg strength to be NFL elite but not near as polished or consistant yet. Dillard it more consistant but he won't be as strong. Both have D1 offers but to come in day one, Buvolus is the one you felt good about being able to do that. And we have a difficult descision if we should offer a scholarship or preferred walk-on to the back ups.

Well we should be used to inconsistency. Guess I would just go with the guy with the elite leg and get him here this summer and work the crap out of him. Really want the one with ice water in his veins, but I guess you won't know that till he kicks in pressure situations.

[3rdGen]

Man I hate Bama. How do our next options compare to Bulovis? Anybody got a comparison?

Options, you talkin about options? Who is talking about options? I just hope we get a walk on!
Thanks, Jim Mora one of the greatest sports clips ever.

[Doggie_Style]

Does Bama even have a kicking coach on campus? We've got an ex-NFL kicker and coach on staff.

and that will be key now that we will likely have some kids that need work.....I think State did all they could do to get Bulovas, it just didn't work out

[Irondawg]

For Day's sake I hope we like him enough to offer outside the combo.

[maroonmania]

Well we should be used to inconsistency. Guess I would just go with the guy with the elite leg and get him here this summer and work the crap out of him. Really want the one with ice water in his veins, but I guess you won't know that till he kicks in pressure situations.

Give me a guy with consistency, the heck with a booming leg. We supposedly had that with Bell but he couldn't find the goal posts if they had fell on his head. I wish we would go after the very best JUCO kicker we could find across the country. They are already use to kicking against better competition without a tee and more along in their physical development.

[Bdawg]

Options, you talkin about options? Who is talking about options? I just hope we get a walk on!
Thanks, Jim Mora one of the greatest sports clips ever.

If your not just talking tongue in cheek, supposedly we have been talking to other kickers too.

[bulldog2488]

If your not just talking tongue in cheek, supposedly we have been talking to other kickers too.

I apologize if I missed this in a previous thread, but who is our Plan B now?

[Doggie_Style]

Give me a guy with consistency, the heck with a booming leg. We supposedly had that with Bell but he couldn't find the goal posts if they had fell on his head. I wish we would go after the very best JUCO kicker we could find across the country. They are already use to kicking against better competition without a tee and more along in their physical development.

That's a good idea, we once brought in a DII kicker from Colorado School of Mines......can't remember his name

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I apologize if I missed this in a previous thread, but who is our Plan B now?

http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?40429-Recruiting-2017&p=694040#post694040

Adam Williams, Mason Dillard.

[Really Clark?]

I'm not sure I saw the melt on the boards over Day. Maybe I'm slippin ****

It wasn't over offering Day it was the adjusting of players to make it work that many questioned and melted over

[bulldog2488]

http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?40429-Recruiting-2017&p=694040#post694040

Adam Williams, Mason Dillard.

Thanks! Anybody know if a scholarship spot will still remain open or will they try to convince some of these guys to walk on?

[Really Clark?]

http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?40429-Recruiting-2017&p=694040#post694040

Adam Williams, Mason Dillard.

Sounds like there are at least 2 others we have been in contact with as well over the last few weeks.

[Bdawg]

Give me a guy with consistency, the heck with a booming leg. We supposedly had that with Bell but he couldn't find the goal posts if they had fell on his head. I wish we would go after the very best JUCO kicker we could find across the country. They are already use to kicking against better competition without a tee and more along in their physical development.

I agree to a certain extent. Consistency is very important. Guess I'm having '15 flashbacks of LSU. To me, if your coach thinks he can develop the big leg to be accurate, get the big leg. If he would rather have the guy who looks more consistent in the beginning, get him and try to develop leg strength. But no one will know if he is a clutch kicker till he runs out on Scott Field and drills one from 40+ in tight ballgames in the 4th quarter.

[Doggie_Style]

http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_majzlsADkL1rol1w1.gif

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Sounds like there are at least 2 others we have been in contact with as well over the last few weeks.

Names?

[msstate7]

Names?

Keep em secret... Saban may get them to walk on

[maroonmania]

I agree to a certain extent. Consistency is very important. Guess I'm having '15 flashbacks of LSU. To me, if your coach thinks he can develop the big leg to be accurate, get the big leg. If he would rather have the guy who looks more consistent in the beginning, get him and try to develop leg strength. But no one will know if he is a clutch kicker till he runs out on Scott Field and drills one from 40+ in tight ballgames in the 4th quarter.

You BETTER get a kicker who has shown accuracy BEFORE he gets to campus. NOTHING this staff has ever done has remotely shown that we can "develop a big leg to be accurate". That ain't happening.

[bulldog2488]

You BETTER get a kicker who has shown accuracy BEFORE he gets to campus. NOTHING this staff has ever done has remotely shown that we can "develop a big leg to be accurate". That ain't happening.

I agree with you, but to be fair, we did hire a kicking specialist last year. Maybe that will help with this issue.

[travis]

Naive to believe that...It's the #Sabanblock like with Lashley, he won't let us have nice things that could beat him. Once Bulovas de-committed and we cheered, Bama calls.

I believe he decommitted BECAUSE Bama called. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me we were plan B.

[Bdawg]

You BETTER get a kicker who has shown accuracy BEFORE he gets to campus. NOTHING this staff has ever done has remotely shown that we can "develop a big leg to be accurate". That ain't happening.

Well Boniol(sp) hasn't been here very long has he? So we have never really had a kicking specialist to develop kickers properly have we? And you are probably right, but all I'm saying is go with what Boniol thinks he can develop best(leg strength or accuracy).

[msstate7]

I believe he decommitted BECAUSE Bama called. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me we were plan B.

According to GT fan on tRant that called bulovas to bama before anyone else I saw, we were plan C. GT fan said bulovas left GT and assured them he was solid... Saban called Sunday night and boom

[travis]

According to GT fan on tRant that called bulovas to bama before anyone else I saw, we were plan C. GT fan said bulovas left GT and assured them he was solid... Saban called Sunday night and boom

There you go. State fans misread the situation, after being fed sunshine by Steve Robertson, etc.

[dawgday166]

Gotta temper your expectations when listening to RoseBowl. I cut what he says down to about 60%.

[maroonmania]

I agree with you, but to be fair, we did hire a kicking specialist last year. Maybe that will help with this issue.

I'm just skeptical on how much accuracy can be taught. Its almost like trying to coach a basketball player at the college level how to be a consistent 3 point shooter. Yes, you can help a little but usually a guy who is not a good shooter doesn't just turn into a good shooter because he was coached. Its really more either a guy can do it or he can't.

[bulldog2488]

I'm just skeptical on how much accuracy can be taught. Its almost like trying to coach a basketball player at the college level how to be a consistent 3 point shooter. Yes, you can help a little but usually a guy who is not a good shooter doesn't just turn into a good shooter because he was coached. Its really more either a guy can do it or he can't.

Fair point. I'm hoping that as long as we can get a guy on campus that has a good leg, the kicking coach can do something with him and we can develop a consistent guy at that position.

[Doggie_Style]

Fair point. I'm hoping that as long as we can get a guy on campus that has a good leg, the kicking coach can do something with him and we can develop a consistent guy at that position.

September is only 7 months away....we'll need a kicker that is consistent then. I like the JUCO idea.

[I seen it dawg]

NO....Thanks Boniol...

22 minutes..not bad

[msstate7]

Buzzsaw 12 (GT fan on tRant) says...

"The kid has been wishy washy all along and a bit of a flake but he is a kicker so.... He apparently lied to our staff about the Miss St. visit. We found out when he cancelled an in home and said he was going to State instead because his punter buddy was taking a visit there and blamed it on miscommunication with a Tech assistant who just left for GA Southern. So I guess blame it on the coach who's no longer there. Lol. He still came for his official this past weekend to Tech but who knows who dropped who in this deal.

Since the coaches can't comment we may never know but some have said that we told him we were moving on after having him here for the weekend and others have said he reaffirmed his commitment only to turn around 24 hours later and decommit. Either way I'm glad it worked out this way for Tech."

...
Apparently GT already has top kicker in Georgia lined up

[Commercecomet24]

Well at least we won't have to worry about Bulovas making our recruiting ranking go down*****************************

[dawg27]

Oh well, we can still win games without a kicker.

If we had a kicker this year we would be at 7 wins instead of 5, we need a kicker

[maroonmania]

Buzzsaw 12 (GT fan on tRant) says...

"The kid has been wishy washy all along and a bit of a flake but he is a kicker so.... He apparently lied to our staff about the Miss St. visit. We found out when he cancelled an in home and said he was going to State instead because his punter buddy was taking a visit there and blamed it on miscommunication with a Tech assistant who just left for GA Southern. So I guess blame it on the coach who's no longer there. Lol. He still came for his official this past weekend to Tech but who knows who dropped who in this deal.

Since the coaches can't comment we may never know but some have said that we told him we were moving on after having him here for the weekend and others have said he reaffirmed his commitment only to turn around 24 hours later and decommit. Either way I'm glad it worked out this way for Tech."

...
Apparently GT already has top kicker in Georgia lined up

So apparently Bulovas does have a very strong leg but as a SR he was 7-14 of FGs with a long of 38 yards (per 247) and someone posted here that he was 11-25 in his HS career. Doesn't sound like any kind of sure kicker for the Fall of 2017. Still wish we would go the JUCO route.

[Really Clark?]

So apparently Bulovas does have a very strong leg but as a SR he was 7-14 of FGs with a long of 38 yards (per 247) and someone posted here that he was 11-25 in his HS career. Doesn't sound like any kind of sure kicker for the Fall of 2017. Still wish we would go the JUCO route.

Those numbers are not correct. He made a lot more than that and had like 50+ yarder this year in a playoff game, I believe

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

Let's just hope Saban doesn't offer Day

[Tripp McNeely]

Options, you talkin about options? Who is talking about options? I just hope we get a walk on!
Thanks, Jim Mora one of the greatest sports clips ever.

Best kicker rant of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GILXUJa2l1w

[maroonmania]

Those numbers are not correct. He made a lot more than that and had like 50+ yarder this year in a playoff game, I believe

Put this in the recruiting thread but his HS numbers are not good. 3/9 in his SR year and 7/14 his JR year unless these stats are bogus.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/joseph-bulovas/N2mesQSOEeS00gAmVebEWg/gendersport/football-stats.htm

[Really Clark?]

Put this in the recruiting thread but his HS numbers are not good. 3/9 in his SR year and 7/14 his JR year unless these stats are bogus.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/joseph-bulovas/N2mesQSOEeS00gAmVebEWg/gendersport/football-stats.htm

I replied there as well. The Max Prep numbers are off.

[maroonmania]

I replied there as well. The Max Prep numbers are off.

Understood, so much for trusting maxpreps.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

http://247sports.com/Player/Adam-Williams-46037950

This kid is next up. Looks like we may be able to get him with a PWO offer.

[Doggie_Style]

http://247sports.com/Player/Adam-Williams-46037950

This kid is next up. Looks like we may be able to get him with a PWO offer.

Sign him up! He's big and can boom it......16/18 aint bad either!

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Sign him up! He's big and can boom it......16/18 aint bad either!

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/6639339/57cb659b0aff7a12ac2463ad

[bulldog2488]

http://247sports.com/Player/Adam-Williams-46037950

This kid is next up. Looks like we may be able to get him with a PWO offer.

Legit enough interest to snag him without a scholarship offer? If so, I think that is a win for us. Don't get me wrong I wish we could have snagged Bulovas. There is a reason he was an All American kicker, but this kid isn't too shabby either.

[Bdawg]

Sign him up! He's big and can boom it......16/18 aint bad either!

That's pretty dang accurate and had some long ones in his film too!

[RocketDawg]

Bama fans on tRant saying he just committed to bama

Apparently the 'blueshirt' didn't bother him.

[PassInterference]

So Bulovas didn't have an official visit to Bama or an in-home visit from Bama coaches.

Saban simply placed the call and said Bama needed a BACKUP kicker this year and that was that.

Damn I hate Alabama.

[Really Clark?]

So Bulovas didn't have an official visit to Bama or an in-home visit from Bama coaches.

Saban simply placed the call and said Bama needed a BACKUP kicker this year and that was that.

Damn I hate Alabama.

Actually it looks like he may have unofficially visited Bama Sunday after he left GT.

[travis]

Actually it looks like he may have unofficially visited Bama Sunday after he left GT.

Right. So basically all the State media misinterpreted the Ga Tech decommitment, and perhaps Bulovas contributed to this with what he was saying to the coaches.

[gtowndawg]

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/6639339/57cb659b0aff7a12ac2463ad

Looks like he just committed to Tennessee. That's what is Twitter feed shows. Or am I missing something?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Looks like he just committed to Tennessee. That's what is Twitter feed shows. Or am I missing something?

No that's correct.

[Doggie_Style]

Sign him up! He's big and can boom it......16/18 aint bad either!

With Bulovas and Williams now signed to other SEC schools what is plan C?

[msstate7]

With Bulovas and Williams now signed to other SEC schools what is plan C?

Day kicker/punter?

[preachermatt83]

Jake Lane

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Day kicker/punter?

Day wasn't going to be the punter this year anyway. Logan Cooke is still here. Give Day the FG Kicker job & let him be a full time kicker. His last 2yrs he was 23/29 FG with a long of 51. He said when he committed that he would compete for the kicking job unless we got Bulovas.

[msstate7]

Day wasn't going to be the punter this year anyway. Logan Cooke is still here. Give Day the FG Kicker job & let him be a full time kicker. His last 2yrs he was 23/29 FG with a long of 51. He said when he committed that he would compete for the kicking job unless we got Bulovas.
Cool. Any chance he could kick and punt in '18? Has there been a dual CFB punt/kicker recently?

[Doggie_Style]

Jake Lane

He does have a nice stroke, he's skinny, wirey maybe...
http://www.hudl.com/profile/3941401/jake-lane

[maroonmania]

Seriously, there has to be a proven JUCO FG kicker out there we could go after and bring in to give us more options at the position.

[Commercecomet24]

Day wasn't going to be the punter this year anyway. Logan Cooke is still here. Give Day the FG Kicker job & let him be a full time kicker. His last 2yrs he was 23/29 FG with a long of 51. He said when he committed that he would compete for the kicking job unless we got Bulovas.

Then there's not any reason for us to be melting about losing a kicker. It appears that Day may be just a good a kicker as punter. He can concentrate on kicking this fall and then punt after Logan leaves. Problem solved, we are good to go!

[Commercecomet24]

Cool. Any chance he could kick and punt in '18? Has there been a dual CFB punt/kicker recently?

Auburn had one just a few years ago but his name escapes me.

[Doggie_Style]

Then there's not any reason for us to be melting about losing a kicker. It appears that Day may be just a good a kicker as punter. He can concentrate on kicking this fall and then punt after Logan leaves. Problem solved, we are good to go!

yea your right, it's not like we ever lost a game because we couldn't make a short FG****

[Commercecomet24]

yea your right, it's not like we ever lost a game because we couldn't make a short FG****

lol Yep that never happens here*******