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msstate7
01-21-2017, 05:53 PM
We need this one. Hope the rebounding we did Tuesday continues today

preachermatt83
01-21-2017, 05:55 PM
I say we win by 5

TheRef
01-21-2017, 05:58 PM
MSU Starting 5

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2ulgTbXgAAVQvl.jpg

TheRef
01-21-2017, 05:58 PM
Tennessee Starting 5: https://twitter.com/Vol_Hoops/status/822938348738068481

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:03 PM
No movement at all on offense

fader2103
01-21-2017, 06:04 PM
1:20 seconds without a foul 😳

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 06:05 PM
Rebounding's OK but no scoring so far, unless this Tenn guy makes a foul shot. He did.

msbulldog
01-21-2017, 06:06 PM
Dammit Peters, 2nd foul.

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 06:06 PM
Nice block by Holman.

smootness
01-21-2017, 06:07 PM
Lazy start. Get it in to Herard.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:07 PM
Has Q even shot a 3?

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 06:07 PM
Slow start. Gotta get it in gear quick

TheRef
01-21-2017, 06:07 PM
Has Q even shot a 3?

Not today

msbulldog
01-21-2017, 06:07 PM
No.

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 06:08 PM
Opening minutes aren't good for us scoring. Can't remember how long we didn't score against UK, but it was a while. And now almost 4 minutes so far here.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:08 PM
What is our deal in starting out the last couple of games? Why is Holman the one shooting the 3? This is twilight zone. Ugh!!!

civildawg
01-21-2017, 06:08 PM
Holman shooting all the threes

smootness
01-21-2017, 06:08 PM
Peters has to learn not to foul, even if it lessens his defense some. He is the exact kind of defender they're trying to limit. Can't afford for him to be in foul trouble at all, let alone 2 minutes in.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:08 PM
What a lousy start... herard has been killing it down low the last 2 games and we haven't gotten him the ball yet

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 06:08 PM
Finally.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 06:09 PM
Lazy shot after lazy shot. It's time to attack

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:09 PM
Q not being aggressive offensively is killing us.

smootness
01-21-2017, 06:11 PM
Opening minutes aren't good for us scoring. Can't remember how long we didn't score against UK, but it was a while. And now almost 4 minutes so far here.

That was A&M, not Kentucky.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:11 PM
What a lousy start... herard has been killing it down low the last 2 games and we haven't gotten him the ball yet

We haven't done shit period and Peters isn't driving to the basket to create. Just mentally as a team not into it. With that being said only down by 2.

lamont
01-21-2017, 06:11 PM
slow start on O. Got to get back to attacking the basket more

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:11 PM
Need to shoot 3s after a pass from down low. Stop just pulling up for 3s without trying to feed the post. Get herard the ball. Holman try and get something down low... he has a big size advantage

civildawg
01-21-2017, 06:13 PM
What the heck is Q's major?

TheRef
01-21-2017, 06:14 PM
What the heck is Q's major?

It literally means Teaching Sports, tbh. Pedagogy is basically coaching.

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 06:14 PM
What the heck is Q's major?

A pedagogue is a teacher, so I assume his major is something akin to sports education.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:16 PM
Good Lord, he didn't dribble from the 3 pt line

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:18 PM
Finally a look for herard. They'll either let him score or foul him... he's too much for them

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:19 PM
We're not matching their energy. Come on pups

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:19 PM
Yep, after the shit start only down by 2. We will get it back.

Reason2succeed
01-21-2017, 06:20 PM
We're getting killed on the blocks rebounding.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:21 PM
We're getting killed on the blocks rebounding.

No excuse. We're much bigger

lamont
01-21-2017, 06:22 PM
Light has turned on for Herard

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 06:22 PM
Why didn't we come out the gate feeding herard? It's obvious they have no answer

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:22 PM
Thank you! Get it to herard... he's the best big by far in this game

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:26 PM
I love Holman, but I wish there was 15-20 lbs more of him

HaggardDawg
01-21-2017, 06:27 PM
Garbage foul called on Holman. Arms straight up and never left his feet.

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 06:28 PM
I love Holman, but I wish there was 15-20 lbs more of him

Yeah, he's a bit gangly isn't he. I've got 20 or so I could give him ....

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:28 PM
How the hell do we get called for traveling on what seems to be what the opposing teams do all the time.

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 06:29 PM
I've noticed a couple of teams have "premium" seats in their arena, sort of a club level. Do we have any demand for that in basketball? It's gone over really well in football.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 06:30 PM
This looks like it could be one those freshman brain fart games we've been worried about. Just not mentally in the game so far but only down 5

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:30 PM
I guess if you play like shit any of these teams can beat you....

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:30 PM
I was hoping we turned a corner vs Kentucky, but I'm beyond disappointed with this start. Tenn just wants this game more and their energy and focus proves it.

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 06:31 PM
How the hell do we get called for traveling on what seems to be what the opposing teams do all the time.


I don't know. Looks to me like they call about 1 in 20 travels based on the rules as we used to play them. They're walking all over the court now without a call; so is the NBA.

Apoplectic
01-21-2017, 06:31 PM
This looks like it could be one those freshman brain fart games we've been worried about. Just not mentally in the game so far but only down 5

Is on lazy Q

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 06:32 PM
I guess if you play like shit any of these teams can beat you....


It's just getting started. Maybe the halftime talk will get them going like it did with the gals.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 06:32 PM
I was hoping we turned a corner vs Kentucky, but I'm beyond disappointed with this start. Tenn just wants this game more and their energy and focus proves it.

Yep. It's one thing to have an off night shooting and things like that, but I have no patience with lack of effort. Let's see if they can get the led out

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:33 PM
Two missed layups. Really???

maroonmania
01-21-2017, 06:35 PM
Two missed layups. Really???

Yep, and one was a dunk. Threw away 4 points.

chef dixon
01-21-2017, 06:36 PM
Two missed layups. Really???

Q has been missing lay ups all season. Somehow still shoots 50% from the field

Bass Chaser
01-21-2017, 06:36 PM
Actually 3 missed layups 2 by Q and the dunk.

maroonmania
01-21-2017, 06:37 PM
People are going to continue to kill on the glass I guess.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 06:37 PM
Tenn is just out working us.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:37 PM
Tennessee is putting their foot up our butts on the boards. We rebounded with Kentucky Tuesday night... get on their butts, howland!

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:38 PM
We are lazy passing the shit out of it this game. Terrible.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:38 PM
People are going to continue to kill on the glass I guess.

We essentially were even with Kentucky (best rebounding team in sec) Tuesday. This is effort

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:39 PM
Only one playing worth a shit is IJ Ready.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 06:40 PM
Ready has no clue how to run a fast break. We have no clue how to block out. Embarrassing

civildawg
01-21-2017, 06:40 PM
Wow we suck at rebounding

Apoplectic
01-21-2017, 06:40 PM
Carter should be a RS

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:40 PM
Tennessee is getting away with a TON of over the backs. These refs are sucking something awful in that regard.

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 06:40 PM
If interested, UK is killing South Carolina ... 28-15.

Apoplectic
01-21-2017, 06:41 PM
Q is lazy passing the shit out of it this game. Terrible.

FIFY

Goldendawg
01-21-2017, 06:41 PM
11 O boards for Tn. We need to hire Dennis Rodman as a consultant on rebounding.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:41 PM
Guys they are getting away with a ton of Over the backs. Blocking out is worthless if the person gets to climb your back.

Reason2succeed
01-21-2017, 06:41 PM
Tennessee is getting away with a TON of over the backs. These refs are sucking something awful in that regard.

That may be true but you have to adjust to the refs. We need to match TN aggressiveness on the blocks.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:41 PM
Where's herard? I'm not liking these personnel decisions. Carter has way too mins... I know peters has foul trouble, but...

Ready
Q
Kegler
Holman
Herard

Or

Ready
Q
Stapleton
Holman
Herard

smootness
01-21-2017, 06:42 PM
Tennessee is putting their foot up our butts on the boards. We rebounded with Kentucky Tuesday night... get on their butts, howland!

Tennessee is a better rebounding team than Kentucky.

Apoplectic
01-21-2017, 06:42 PM
Disappointed in the effort. This is a game we could steal. Starts with Q and he is showing no leadership. Keg is a running disaster but at least he's 110%

MaxedOutMaroon
01-21-2017, 06:42 PM
Only one playing worth a shit is IJ Ready.

And that's not a good sign! We are really flat. Halftime is their chance to wake up

msbulldog
01-21-2017, 06:43 PM
Better not wait till halftime.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:44 PM
Tennessee is a better rebounding team than Kentucky.

Kentucky #1
Tenn #11
http://secsports.go.com/statistics/mens-basketball/team/rebounds

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:45 PM
So Peters wasn't fouled there? Right....

smootness
01-21-2017, 06:45 PM
Kentucky #1
Tenn #11
http://secsports.go.com/statistics/mens-basketball/team/rebounds

I'm dumb. Read the wrong thing.

smootness
01-21-2017, 06:46 PM
So Peters wasn't fouled there? Right....

Blocked

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:46 PM
I'm dumb. Read the wrong thing.

No you're not, but I do enjoy being right for once haha

BeardoMSU
01-21-2017, 06:46 PM
11 O boards for Tn. We need to hire Dennis Rodman as a consultant on rebounding.

This.

Reason2succeed
01-21-2017, 06:46 PM
As sloppy as we are playing it is a miracle we are not losing by more. Howland is going to set them straight at halftime...I hope.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:47 PM
Herard should get a chance every possession

smootness
01-21-2017, 06:48 PM
Jarvis Varnado Hahahahahahaha. What an idiot.

Herard is a bona fide monster.

msbulldog
01-21-2017, 06:48 PM
HERARD!!!!!!!!!!!

Reason2succeed
01-21-2017, 06:48 PM
The good news is we played like poo and are only down by one possession.

RougeDawg
01-21-2017, 06:49 PM
Should be ahead by 1. Q's point blank miss and keglers missed dunk and we are winning.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:49 PM
We should be embarrassed herard hasn't gotten more looks. aTm and Kentucky couldn't stop him... no way Tennessee can

smootness
01-21-2017, 06:49 PM
Remember when people said Herard wasn't a 4-star? Oops.

civildawg
01-21-2017, 06:49 PM
Refs are ruining the game of basketball. Let them play

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 06:50 PM
Should be ahead by 1. Q's point blank miss and keglers missed dunk and we are winning.

Yeah, those were terrible. I think Ready needs more bench time in the 2nd half b/c we need rebounding. And we can't really play Carter right now.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:51 PM
Remember when people said Herard wasn't a 4-star? Oops.

If he keeps up this rate of progression, he will be unstoppable by year's end. He does need to step it up on defensive rebounding though

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:52 PM
That was a shit performance for about 15 of the 20 minutes. Looking like we are coming out of it. Down by three and will get the ball first to start the second half. If we can even up the rebounding, we will be fine. Q needs to be more aggressive and take more open threes. He was open several times from three and drove for a contested layup. I think the refs will call more over the backs in the second half. It's going to follow A&M game in that respect.

RougeDawg
01-21-2017, 06:52 PM
We should be embarrassed herard hasn't gotten more looks. aTm and Kentucky couldn't stop him... no way Tennessee can

You are watching MSU basketball, not MSU football. There will be halftime adjustments and he will get the ball 2nd half.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:53 PM
Wright available? I like him over carter right now

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 06:54 PM
Yeah, Herard is progressing nicely. We need Peters to be more aggressive and drive to the basket for easy dunk by Herard or kick out three by Q.

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 06:54 PM
Jarvis Varnado Hahahahahahaha. What an idiot.

Herard is a bona fide monster.

Jarvis was a great shot blocker, he was not a great defender. Herard has a chance to be a GREAT defender.

maroonmania
01-21-2017, 06:55 PM
Well, if we had made our layups and dunks we would have the lead at halftime.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 06:55 PM
Jarvis was a great shot blocker, he was not a great defender. Herard has a chance to be a GREAT defender.

Announcer said herard and Jarvis had same body type

RougeDawg
01-21-2017, 06:56 PM
That was a shit performance for about 15 of the 20 minutes. Looking like we are coming out of it. Down by three and will get the ball first to start the second half. If we can even up the rebounding, we will be fine. Q needs to be more aggressive and take more open threes. He was open several times from three and drove for a contested layup. I think the refs will call more over the backs in the second half. It's going to follow A&M game in that respect.

Q seems to average 10-16 in the 2nd half of games this year. We should see him score more in 2nd as he has all year. We are in good shape considering the play and rebounding. Tenn should be up 10 at minimum.

maroonmania
01-21-2017, 06:56 PM
Yeah, those were terrible. I think Ready needs more bench time in the 2nd half b/c we need rebounding. And we can't really play Carter right now.

Weatherspoon also missed an easy layup.

MCsMGs
01-21-2017, 06:56 PM
Herard one rebound away from a DD. This guy is gonna be good! He's a high character guy too.

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 06:57 PM
Yeah, Herard is progressing nicely. We need Peters to be more aggressive and drive to the basket for easy dunk by Herard or kick out three by Q.

Herard was and IS the key to this team actually being good THIS year. You didn't but some laughed at me when I said that back early. He and Peters have a real chance to be among the VERY best ever to wear the Maroon & White on the court.

RougeDawg
01-21-2017, 06:58 PM
Herard one rebound away from a DD. This guy is gonna be good! He's a high character guy too.

The offensive foul against him was shit too.

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 06:59 PM
Announcer said herard and Jarvis had same body type

I heard that. Obviously you don't have to have a clue to be a basketball announcer for the SEC Network. LOL.

MCsMGs
01-21-2017, 06:59 PM
Announcer said herard and Jarvis had same body type

LOL!

BeardoMSU
01-21-2017, 07:00 PM
Herard was and IS the key to this team actually being good THIS year.

I just said the same thing to the GF. He is going to be a monster for us the next couple of years.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:02 PM
Kentucky has 47 first half points vs South Carolina. I'm really surprised by that. South Carolina is a good defensive team

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:07 PM
That 3 by Holman is awful. We have 6 points in the paint this half and our 4 is shooting a 3

DudyDawg
01-21-2017, 07:07 PM
First half synopsis for those who can't watch this one? Thanks.

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 07:08 PM
Thought you couldn't hang on to the rim like the Tenn guy did.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:08 PM
First half synopsis for those who can't watch this one? Thanks.

Defensive rebounding bad
Herard good

WildDawg
01-21-2017, 07:09 PM
Officials extremely one sided

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:10 PM
Officials extremely one sided

Yep. Add that we are playing like shit and this is what you get.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:11 PM
Love how traveling is only called on us.

chef dixon
01-21-2017, 07:11 PM
We are losing to a Rick Ray team

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:11 PM
I just don't get it guys. We make a nice run to start the half and we immediately put in Ready and give up a 10-2 run.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:11 PM
Kentucky game appears to be a total fluke. We're dead last in the sec in rebounding. We rebounded almost even with Kentucky (#1 in sec) and have gotten pummeled by aTm and now Tennessee on the other sides of that game

GTHOM
01-21-2017, 07:11 PM
College basketball needs to change the shot clock and quit calling so many mfing fouls holy shit its unbearable to watch

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 07:12 PM
We are a about to let this one get away. Have to turn it up on defense and be patient of offense.

maroonmania
01-21-2017, 07:12 PM
Our defense is crap so far this half.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:12 PM
I just don't get it guys. We make a nice run to start the half and we immediately put in Ready and give up a 10-2 run.

Howland has had an awful game... carter logging so many 1st half mins and now this run spurred by putting in ready

TheRef
01-21-2017, 07:13 PM
We are emotionally drained after the UK game. I hate to say it, but this was a trap game for us, and we may have sprung the trap.

Steakonastick
01-21-2017, 07:13 PM
The Kentucky hangover continues

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:13 PM
First half synopsis for those who can't watch this one? Thanks.

We didn't play with great energy and got killed on the boards. Peters picked up 2 quick fouls so he had to sit. Herard played well. Kegler play decent.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:13 PM
Rick Barnes owns us

WildDawg
01-21-2017, 07:13 PM
Yep. Add that we are playing like shit and this is what you get.

The way UT gets calls and we don't get the same ones makes a team play his way. They have no idea what is allowed and what isn't.

RougeDawg
01-21-2017, 07:13 PM
Almost seems like the refs have neen told not to let us win after the 3-1 start. Almost.

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 07:13 PM
We are a about to let this one get away. Have to turn it up on defense and be patient of offense.

Everything Tennessee throws up is going in right now though. That's bound to cool off. And we can't make a thing.

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:14 PM
The Kentucky hangover continues

That's so much BS, that was Tuesday night. There is no hangover.

DudyDawg
01-21-2017, 07:14 PM
Defensive rebounding bad
Herard good

Feed the Haitian Sensation

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:14 PM
4 fouls to 0 this half? Bullshit.

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 07:15 PM
The Kentucky hangover continues

I think that's the main issue tonight.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:15 PM
This is just bullshit by the refs.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:16 PM
5 fouls to 0. Are you ****ing kidding me? And Herard did nothing to get a foul called on that and 1.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:16 PM
Tenn had a double digit lead on the bears in the second half and blew it. We're still very much in this game. The effort tonight is very discouraging though

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:16 PM
I wish we got this kind of home cooking at the Hump.

Apoplectic
01-21-2017, 07:17 PM
Does keg have the vivians green light? He's finally starting to drop a few

maroonmania
01-21-2017, 07:18 PM
We can't make a stop this second half.

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:19 PM
We start Q at the 2 and Keglar at the 3 but they only play there the first 3 minutes of the game and the first 3 minutes of the 2nd half.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:19 PM
6 fouls in 5 minutes. Refs need to just eat shit.

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:20 PM
I love this current lineup if we would just put in X for IJ.

RougeDawg
01-21-2017, 07:21 PM
Guess you can't have your arms up anymore and get a foul called when the offensive guy initiates contact without you moving.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:22 PM
Doesn't appear to be our night

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:22 PM
Apparently you can do chin ups and not get a T dunking.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:23 PM
I hate this effort we are playing with tonight.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:23 PM
Howland needs to tell the next idiot that settles for a 3 without going inside first is out the rest of the game. That's exactly what Tenn wants us to do is shoot 3s. This is so frustrating

smootness
01-21-2017, 07:24 PM
We foul entirely too much.

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:24 PM
Wow, bonus with 12 minutes left.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:25 PM
We foul entirely too much.

That's what happens when you don't move your feet. Just lazy all around tonight

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:25 PM
Carter back in. Wright in too. Danger time

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:26 PM
And Holman and Herard brick 4 FT's.

DudyDawg
01-21-2017, 07:26 PM
Apparently you can do chin ups and not get a T dunking.

I absolutely hate that rule. So stupid.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:26 PM
These refs are assraping us worse then Tennessee.

Goldendawg
01-21-2017, 07:27 PM
We look like we are sleep walking.

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:27 PM
Please get to the under 12 with carter and wright in there. scary lineup from Howland.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:27 PM
We foul entirely too much.

Tennessee is fouling just as much but no calls.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:28 PM
Stapleton for 3 lol

maroonmania
01-21-2017, 07:28 PM
We are just a step slow in everything we are doing tonight.

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 07:28 PM
Be patient and don't just try to jack up threes. It HAS to start on the defensive end.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:29 PM
Be patient and don't just try to jack up threes. It HAS to start on the defensive end.

We aren't playing defense and can't get the rebound when we do.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:30 PM
I hate the freshman excuse but that is what this stupid crap is.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:30 PM
I hate the freshman excuse but that is what this stupid crap is.

Tenn freshmen too

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:31 PM
Ok, IJ is on the bench. Let's see if we can make a run.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:31 PM
im just really frustrated that we didn't come out and exploit the size advantage. That's ok the coaches

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:31 PM
Tennessee was favored and apparently it was with good reason. We can't defend them and can't man up on the boards

Goldendawg
01-21-2017, 07:32 PM
Jake up three's with nobody in position to rebound, no help side D, and no emotion. A recipe for a road loss.

Steakonastick
01-21-2017, 07:32 PM
Teams after playing Kentucky

Ole miss lost to Florida
A&M lost to USC
Ark lost to us
Vandy lost to Tenn
Auburn beat LSU
And we are playing flat vs tenn

Bucky Dog
01-21-2017, 07:33 PM
FT shooting kills us. We are lazy tonight in a lot of ways. Passing, defense and rebounding.

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 07:33 PM
Q is killing us right now, on both ends.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:33 PM
Lol we miss ft and Tennessee is in scoring position in 1.2 secs

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:33 PM
nevermind, IJ sat for 5 seconds. We did make a 1-0 run though.

smootness
01-21-2017, 07:34 PM
Just one of those games. We had a few good games in a row and thought we were past them. We're not.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:34 PM
Tennessee was favored and apparently it was with good reason. We can't defend them and can't man up on the boards

Well we played right into their hands by settling for lazy jumpers. Maybe vegas knew how shitty our game plan was

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:34 PM
So Tennessee pushes our guy on the free throw miss (push off). And gets rewarded with a basket.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:34 PM
Teams after playing Kentucky

Ole miss lost to Florida
A&M lost to USC
Ark lost to us
Vandy lost to Tenn
Auburn beat LSU
And we are playing flat vs tenn

Florida > om
South Carolina > aTm
Ark is better than us
Tenn = vandy

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:34 PM
Teams after playing Kentucky

Ole miss lost to Florida
A&M lost to USC
Ark lost to us
Vandy lost to Tenn
Auburn beat LSU
And we are playing flat vs tenn

The only upset on that list was us beating Arky.

Political Hack
01-21-2017, 07:35 PM
We can't buy a bucket tonight. I don't know how many lay ups we've missed, but this is ridiculous. It's crazy to me that a team of great shooters can't may a 2 ft shot.

smootness
01-21-2017, 07:35 PM
Tenn freshmen too

Yeah. They're up tonight. We're not.

Goldendawg
01-21-2017, 07:35 PM
We need to get our guys on a good S and C program.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:36 PM
Worst game we have played this year.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:36 PM
Tennessee is missing one of their best players too. We are no where near as good as I thought.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:36 PM
The body language is bad tonight

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 07:36 PM
This is getting really ugly. We look like a bunch of freshmen on the road right now. Peters is out of control, and all of them are just sleep walking on the defensive end.

smootness
01-21-2017, 07:37 PM
Tennessee is missing one of their best players too. We are no where near as good as I thought.

This is what we said vs. Alabama. We'll look great next game and forget we've ever played poorly again.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:38 PM
Tennessee is missing one of their best players too. We are no where near as good as I thought.

It's Freshman. That is WAY overreacting.

Goldendawg
01-21-2017, 07:38 PM
We have a lot of guys who are not shy to shoot and don't seem to like defense or rebounding. We don't get many assisted baskets.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:38 PM
Kentucky's sparring partner is Tennessee's punching bag. Hey pups, you aren't as good as you thought...

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 07:38 PM
Just cool it guys, there are going to be games like this. Too many freshmen.

Political Hack
01-21-2017, 07:38 PM
Tennessee is missing one of their best players too. We are no where near as good as I thought.

It's one game and it's a long season. Young teams are going to have ups and downs. It's expected. Doesn't mean we're no longer capable of being a very good basketball team this season.

bluelightstar
01-21-2017, 07:39 PM
We're fine, young teams have crap games. Move on to the next one.

Especially a team like ours that put a lot of emotion into a big home game against Kentucky.

smootness
01-21-2017, 07:39 PM
Look, we can talk about defense and lazy shots all we want. Bottom line is, Howland's back to not yelling enough.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:39 PM
Just an embarrassing PERFORMANCE. We will beat this team at the Hump.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:39 PM
It's Freshman. That is WAY overreacting.

How is overreacting? I thought we had turned a corner and we haven't. It was my opinion

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:39 PM
Kentucky's sparring partner is Tennessee's punching bag. Hey pups, you aren't as good as you thought...

Shut up.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:39 PM
Howland better run their asses til they puke first thing in the morning. I have no patience with laziness and lack of effort. Howland needs to let them know this won't be tolerated.
Rant over

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:40 PM
We're going to see a lot of inconsistent play this year.

MaxedOutMaroon
01-21-2017, 07:40 PM
Young and AAU mentalities. We'll bounce back. Go ahead and turn off the game if you need to

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 07:40 PM
How is overreacting? I thought we had turned a corner and we haven't. It was my opinion

You are over reacting.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:40 PM
How is overreacting? I thought we had turned a corner and we haven't. It was my opinion

Because it's one ****ing bad game.

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:40 PM
Ready passes on a wide open 3 and walks. If we have any chance to comeback we have to put Peters in.

Steakonastick
01-21-2017, 07:41 PM
worst defense I have seen from us all year.

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:41 PM
Carter left his man and Q didn't rotate. Sheesh. really bad personnel decision by Howland tonight.

RocketDawg
01-21-2017, 07:42 PM
Why is Peters not in? Is he hurt? Down 21 it doesn't matter if he fouls out.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:43 PM
You are over reacting.

I said we were no where near as good as I (as in my opinion) thought.

If we were as good as I (as in me) thought, we would've showed up tonight.

You see why it's not an overreaction? I was wrong. What I think of our team has no bearing on what you think of our team. I thought we were better

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:43 PM
Atleast we have Missouri next game. I don't know if would beat them with kind of effort though.

JoseBrown
01-21-2017, 07:44 PM
Ready passes on a wide open 3 and walks. If we have any chance to comeback we have to put Peters in.

And right on Q, so does Q. This is a team just mentally asleep right now.. We'll be back next game.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:44 PM
worst defense I have seen from us all year.

And that's saying something

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 07:45 PM
Why is Peters not in? Is he hurt? Down 21 it doesn't matter if he fouls out.

Probably because he has played out of control all night.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:45 PM
Howland's coaching has sucked, Q has sucked, our team has been sleep walking through this game. This equals a shit sandwhich performance. We thought we could just show up and win this game. It happens with a freshman team. This is why it sucks having all freshmen.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:47 PM
And right on Q, so does Q. This is a team just mentally asleep right now.. We'll be back next game.

Unfortunately, they pretty much blew the NIT shot tonight bc we aren't beating South Carolina

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 07:47 PM
Howland's coaching has sucked, Q has sucked, our team has been sleep walking through this game. This equals a shit sandwhich performance. We thought we could just show up and win this game. It happens with a freshman team. This is why it sucks having all freshmen.

I agree on everything but the coaching. This is on the players, they got cocky and it bit them in the butt. Hopefully they learn from it.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:48 PM
Well last time we laid a turd like this we sprung it to a 3 game winning streak. I think we do the same here.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:48 PM
I agree on everything but the coaching. This is on the players, they got cocky and it bit them in the butt. Hopefully they learn from it.

Howland's sub patterns have sucked ass this game.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:49 PM
Howland's coaching has sucked, Q has sucked, our team has been sleep walking through this game. This equals a shit sandwhich performance. We thought we could just show up and win this game. It happens with a freshman team. This is why it sucks having all freshmen.

Yep we came in soft tonight and Tennessee gave us a pounding that would make Ron jeremie blush.
The body language tonight is what worries me the most

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:50 PM
Unfortunately, they pretty much blew the NIT shot tonight bc we aren't beating South Carolina

Lol, you're special.

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 07:51 PM
Howland's sub patterns have sucked ass this game.

Yes they have. Sometimes Q has these lapses that are frustrating.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:52 PM
Yep we came in soft tonight and Tennessee gave us a pounding that would make Ron jeremie blush.
The body language tonight is what worries me the most

We were coming off a good winning streak and then a major moral victory Tuesday. We thought we were hot crap. Tenn got humbled by a bad om team and came to play. Big head gets you every time

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 07:52 PM
I agree on everything but the coaching. This is on the players, they got cocky and it bit them in the butt. Hopefully they learn from it.

I agree that a lot of blame needs to be placed on the players but the coaches had a horrible game plan. With our size advantage we should havecome out and force fed the ball inside. Instead we played right into their hands by settling for lazy 3s.
Of course the game plan could have been to go inside and the players just didn't follow it. Who knows

msstate7
01-21-2017, 07:53 PM
Buy/sell... if Kentucky would've poured it on when they were up 17 Tuesday night, we win tonight.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:54 PM
Look, the talent is there. We just need more experience so we understand you have to bring it every game. Tennessee had a double digit lead on the road against Ole Miss and let it slip away so they came out fiery. We played toe to toe with Kentucky so we thought we were hot shit. Obviously, we have a lot to learn. This is a good teachable moment for Coach Howland.

smootness
01-21-2017, 07:55 PM
Buy/sell... if Kentucky would've poured it on when they were up 17 Tuesday night, we win tonight.

Sell

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:56 PM
We need to shoot freethrows until our arms fall off. That's embarrassing.

smootness
01-21-2017, 07:56 PM
Our good stretches are getting longer, but we're always going to have games like this from time to time.

smootness
01-21-2017, 07:58 PM
Datcher didn't even touch the guy. They shove us around, we don't touch them and get the foul call. Tennessee's been flopping all game, and the refs are rewarding them for it.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 07:59 PM
If I'm Howland, I would rip them a new asshole though.

smootness
01-21-2017, 07:59 PM
We're going to destroy these guys at home. Book it.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 08:00 PM
Datcher didn't even touch the guy. They shove us around, we don't touch them and get the foul call. Tennessee's been flopping all game, and the refs are rewarding them for it.

They have fouled more then we have just not called it.

smootness
01-21-2017, 08:00 PM
I see you, Carter.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 08:01 PM
We're going to destroy these guys at home. Book it.

Oh I agree. We will beat Alabama too. I'd eat them alive in the paint in Starkville.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 08:02 PM
We're going to destroy these guys at home. Book it.

Better come up with some guys that can rebound. -13 rebounds
-10 offensive rebs

smootness
01-21-2017, 08:03 PM
Better come up with some guys that can rebound. -13 rebounds
-10 offensive rebs

Rebounding wasn't a problem just one game ago. This game was about our lack of energy, nothing more.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 08:03 PM
We're going to destroy these guys at home. Book it.

I don't know. I don't think Howland has ever beaten Barnes. He has Howland's number.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 08:04 PM
Better come up with some guys that can rebound. -13 rebounds
-10 offensive rebs

Rebounding is effort. Did you see any effort out there tonight? I doubt the refs give them that kind of advantage as an away team.

smootness
01-21-2017, 08:05 PM
Well this is the most awkward interview ever. Can somebody not just tell him he's on camera?

WildDawg
01-21-2017, 08:05 PM
Better come up with some guys that can rebound. -13 rebounds
-10 offensive rebs

Much of this goes back to the called fouls and the non-called fouls. I replayed many that were totally missed both ways for us. UT got every advantage.

smootness
01-21-2017, 08:05 PM
I don't know. I don't think Howland has ever beaten Barnes. He has Howland's number.

I mean, how many games is that over?

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 08:06 PM
Rebounding wasn't a problem just one game ago. This game was about our lack of energy, nothing more.

I agree. We were out of this game before it started. No energy. Shit movement on offense. Settling for threes and not trying to get it down low where we had a huge advantage.

msstate7
01-21-2017, 08:08 PM
Rebounding wasn't a problem just one game ago. This game was about our lack of energy, nothing more.

That's true, but it was an anomaly. We're dead last in rebounding in sec and were dominated on the boards both sides of the Kentucky game

smootness
01-21-2017, 08:11 PM
That's true, but it was an anomaly. We're dead last in rebounding in sec and were dominated on the boards both sides of the Kentucky game

True, but we're capable of rebounding and will get much better at it now that Herard has established himself. If Kegler gets more involved in the glass, problem solved.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 08:19 PM
I mean, how many games is that over?

I'll have to go find the numbers again. If I remember right he was 0-3 against Barnes while he was at UCLA and Barnes at Texas. So now it's 0-5

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 08:19 PM
I want to hear Howland's excuse for this shit burger.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 08:28 PM
True, but we're capable of rebounding and will get much better at it now that Herard has established himself. If Kegler gets more involved in the glass, problem solved.

Aside from lack of effort, allowing so much dribble penetration was also a cause for poor rebounding tonight.

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 08:28 PM
I want to hear Howland's excuse for this shit burger.

Never mind, I know. We played Kentucky. Tennessee plays Kentucky next. They will get their ass kicked in the groin. Auburn played LSU at home which was the only W after playing Kentucky in SEC. Best antedote is playing Missouri at our place next. Tennessee plays KSU after Kentucky. KSU will kick the shit out of them.

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 08:31 PM
If you want to sum up this game, Q's lazy pass very early on that sparked UT's first real run does the job. That was the game in a nutshell. That play was a symbol of the whole game.

Liverpooldawg
01-21-2017, 08:31 PM
I want to hear Howland's excuse for this shit burger.

I'd rather hear the players excusesz

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 08:32 PM
If you want to sum up this game, Q's lazy pass very early on that sparked UT's first real run does the job. That was the game in a nutshell. That play was a symbol of the whole game.

Agreed. Q especially played like shit. When he plays like he did tonight, it's awfully hard for us to win.

BayouDawg
01-21-2017, 08:35 PM
I'll have to go find the numbers again. If I remember right he was 0-3 against Barnes while he was at UCLA and Barnes at Texas. So now it's 0-5

Nope I lied. Howland beat Barnes in 2013

HoopsDawg
01-21-2017, 08:46 PM
If you want to sum up this game, Q's lazy pass very early on that sparked UT's first real run does the job. That was the game in a nutshell. That play was a symbol of the whole game.

Yeah, lazy pass led to a dunk. He missed a wide open layup. And get lazy on D which led to an uncontested 3. That's 7 points he was directly accountable for. I've said it before, it's easy to forget that he's just a sophomore b/c we need him to play like a senior every night. He and Peters just couldn't get it going.

Doggie_Style
01-21-2017, 08:51 PM
Agreed. Q especially played like shit. When he plays like he did tonight, it's awfully hard for us to win.

It's frustrating, Q can be so good one night and terrible the next, Herard played well in the first half but Peters wasn't in it and nobody else could pick up the slack.....so this effort may well give us a look at how the rest of the season will go....not good

MarketingBully
01-21-2017, 08:54 PM
Yeah, lazy pass led to a dunk. He missed a wide open layup. And get lazy on D which led to an uncontested 3. That's 7 points he was directly accountable for. I've said it before, it's easy to forget that he's just a sophomore b/c we need him to play like a senior every night. He and Peters just couldn't get it going.

Peters had similar results. At least two to three of his contested missed layup shots that should have been kicked out were turned into easy baskets on the other end. We just sucked major ass tonight because we are a young team that has to learn you have to bring effort every night. Our passes on offense were so poor they all looked like bounce passes. This is one we just didn't give a shit about. I know Coach Howland will get them going in the right direction after this though.