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Ifyouonlyknew
01-11-2017, 05:13 PM
I just keep giving you guys reasons to love me again. Grantham is the next in line of power moves. Just wait til you see the recruits Hev is going to pull to close his class out. I may need a statue in front of Davis Wade & Scooba's going to have to turn my green bars into gold ones.

bulldawg28
01-11-2017, 05:16 PM
I just keep giving you guys reasons to love me again. Grantham is the next in line of power moves. Just wait til you see the recruits Hev is going to pull to close his class out. I may need a statue in front of Davis Wade & Scooba's going to have to turn my green bars into gold ones.

Hahaha. Let's get it!

Tupelodawg88
01-11-2017, 05:19 PM
Only thing Hevesy needs to recruit is a plane ticket out of Starkville

turkish
01-11-2017, 05:21 PM
Prove us all wrong, you Yankee SOB!

Commercecomet24
01-11-2017, 05:24 PM
I just keep giving you guys reasons to love me again. Grantham is the next in line of power moves. Just wait til you see the recruits Hev is going to pull to close his class out. I may need a statue in front of Davis Wade & Scooba's going to have to turn my green bars into gold ones.

I'm all in favor!

ShotgunDawg
01-11-2017, 05:29 PM
I'm sure Troy will be pissed when Hev's power move robs them of their 2* tweener OL

msbulldog
01-11-2017, 05:29 PM
Sounds good to me, with the new DC and EE's, defense should be good. The OL is our next biggest problem, fix that and we will be in good shape. Hail State!

Dawg-gone-dawgs
01-11-2017, 06:33 PM
I like this extending Christmas into February thing. I can get used to this!!

Todd4State
01-11-2017, 06:34 PM
I'm sure Troy will be pissed when Hev's power move robs them of their 2* tweener OL

Hilarious!

ScoobaDawg
01-11-2017, 06:44 PM
I just keep giving you guys reasons to love me again. Grantham is the next in line of power moves. Just wait til you see the recruits Hev is going to pull to close his class out. I may need a statue in front of Davis Wade & Scooba's going to have to turn my green bars into gold ones.

Gold or maybe part of the forum named for you Dan ....but if you are wrong expect to have more red's than you did last time.

Ifyouonlyknew
01-11-2017, 06:52 PM
Gold or maybe part of the forum named for you Dan ....but if you are wrong expect to have more red's than you did last time.

I'm used to the heat

Dawg-gone-dawgs
01-11-2017, 06:52 PM
OL?

Gutter Cobreh
01-11-2017, 07:01 PM
I just keep giving you guys reasons to love me again. Grantham is the next in line of power moves. Just wait til you see the recruits Hev is going to pull to close his class out. I may need a statue in front of Davis Wade & Scooba's going to have to turn my green bars into gold ones.

I love your posts. Ari was nipping at your heels, but your starting to pull away!!!

In a seriousness, if you go to Louisville's SB Nation page their fans were commenting about how they wanted to swap OL coaches. Evidently, they can't stand theirs. I chuckled because a majority here hate Hev. and would probably be in favor of that. Hope your post rings true and it sways some thoughts about him on here to the positive side.

Turfdawg67
01-11-2017, 07:11 PM
I love your posts. Ari was nipping at your heels, but your starting to pull away!!!

In a seriousness, if you go to Louisville's SB Nation page their fans were commenting about how they wanted to swap OL coaches. Evidently, they can't stand theirs. I chuckled because a majority here hate Hev. and would probably be in favor of that. Hope your post rings true and it sways some thoughts about him on here to the positive side.

Let's do it! One man's trash is another man's treasure!

Todd4State
01-11-2017, 07:21 PM
I love your posts. Ari was nipping at your heels, but your starting to pull away!!!

In a seriousness, if you go to Louisville's SB Nation page their fans were commenting about how they wanted to swap OL coaches. Evidently, they can't stand theirs. I chuckled because a majority here hate Hev. and would probably be in favor of that. Hope your post rings true and it sways some thoughts about him on here to the positive side.

I would trade Hevesy for Klenakis in a heartbeat.

Gutter Cobreh
01-11-2017, 07:28 PM
Let's do it! One man's trash is another man's treasure!

That's funny! Below is the link if you want to peruse the comment section to see what the other side thinks of the DC swap:

http://www.cardchronicle.com/2017/1/11/14239122/louisville-football-to-hire-peter-sirmon-as-new-defensive-coordinator

Reason2succeed
01-11-2017, 08:06 PM
That's funny! Below is the link if you want to peruse the comment section to see what the other side thinks of the DC swap:

http://www.cardchronicle.com/2017/1/11/14239122/louisville-football-to-hire-peter-sirmon-as-new-defensive-coordinator

They've already brought in his potential replacement as an insurance policy just in case he really does suck.

MaroonFlounder
01-11-2017, 08:32 PM
Still need a damn FG kicker!!

state66
01-11-2017, 08:46 PM
Still need a damn FG kicker!!

Well we got two good ones on campus this weekend.

tireddawg
01-11-2017, 08:54 PM
Still need a damn FG kicker!!

Field goal kicker ✔

gtowndawg
01-11-2017, 09:08 PM
https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder53/9095053.jpg

wasabaka
01-11-2017, 09:23 PM
That's funny! Below is the link if you want to peruse the comment section to see what the other side thinks of the DC swap:

http://www.cardchronicle.com/2017/1/11/14239122/louisville-football-to-hire-peter-sirmon-as-new-defensive-coordinator

This is my favorite:

"I like that it's a young guy, mostly unproven. Good for recruiting. Bobby knows what he's doing. Have faith, ye cardinal nation!"
Posted by bikerpunk on Jan 11, 2017 | 1:09 PM


I guess every fan base has its sunshine pumpers.

wasabaka
01-11-2017, 09:32 PM
And another:


"I wouldn't hold the 1 year as DC at MSU against him

we don?t really know how much control he had there with a defensive minded head coach, and it was just 1 year so he wouldn?t have had time to implement his system much or get many of his guys. Supposedly an elite recruiter, and with good southern connections that will always help."
Posted by YearOfTheCardinal on Jan 11, 2017 | 1:21 PM


http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/001/031/736/jaguars-fan-gif_original.gif?1377793573

These guys should just stick to following basketball.

Homedawg
01-11-2017, 09:40 PM
I would trade Hevesy for Klenakis in a heartbeat.
After watching Houston treat them worse than Bama treated us last year? No thanks.

Nmdawgfan
01-11-2017, 10:09 PM
"Sirmon's lone season with the Bulldogs was not overly successful. Mississippi State ranked 110th in the country in total defense, and surrendered the most yards and second-most points of any team in the SEC. Here's hoping that had more to do with the lack of talent in Starkville than anything else."

That last sentence caught my attention. Our five year average for recruiting as of 2016 class is 27th nationally. Louisvilles is 39th. In 2016 alone we were 28th and them 38th. They will have some serious buyers remorse come September.

TaleofTwoDogs
01-11-2017, 10:17 PM
I'm sure Troy will be pissed when Hev's power move robs them of their 2* tweener OL

Hey, give credit where credit is due, I heard that UMass and USA are in that hunt too!

SDDawg
01-11-2017, 10:29 PM
I just keep giving you guys reasons to love me again. Grantham is the next in line of power moves. Just wait til you see the recruits Hev is going to pull to close his class out. I may need a statue in front of Davis Wade & Scooba's going to have to turn my green bars into gold ones.

Let's F-ing GOOOOOO!!!

ShotgunDawg
01-11-2017, 10:34 PM
"Sirmon's lone season with the Bulldogs was not overly successful. Mississippi State ranked 110th in the country in total defense, and surrendered the most yards and second-most points of any team in the SEC. Here's hoping that had more to do with the lack of talent in Starkville than anything else."

That last sentence caught my attention. Our five year average for recruiting as of 2016 class is 27th nationally. Louisvilles is 39th. In 2016 alone we were 28th and them 38th. They will have some serious buyers remorse come September.

It just shows you how the perception of our program trumps facts. It amazing how little most people know about us when we play every game on tv.

Gutter Cobreh
01-11-2017, 11:15 PM
This is my favorite:

"I like that it's a young guy, mostly unproven. Good for recruiting. Bobby knows what he's doing. Have faith, ye cardinal nation!"
Posted by bikerpunk on Jan 11, 2017 | 1:09 PM

I guess every fan base has its sunshine pumpers.

This is my thought. We all said the same things to ourself last year when he was hired here. We all somewhat spin information to fit what we want to believe.

No spinning Grantham though. I've seen comments about how he will blitz on 3rd down at the wrong time in the game, but I'll take that over our soft coverage, bend but don't break nonsense.

dawgday166
01-11-2017, 11:18 PM
This is my thought. We all said the same things to ourself last year when he was hired here. We all somewhat spin information to fit what we want to believe.

No spinning Grantham though. I've seen comments about how he will blitz on 3rd down at the wrong time in the game, but I'll take that over our soft coverage, bend but don't break nonsense.

I like unpredictable play callers. Sometimes it backfires tho. Hope he doesn't do it so much he then becomes predictable to do it. (Like QB draw against Bammer ****)

Maroons
01-11-2017, 11:27 PM
I would trade Hevesy for Klenakis in a heartbeat.

Did you watch them even once? Their OL was atrocious.

TimberBeast
01-11-2017, 11:33 PM
I like unpredictable play callers. Sometimes it backfires tho. Hope he doesn't do it so much he then becomes predictable to do it. (Like QB draw against Bammer ****)

No spinning Grantham though. I've seen comments about how he will blitz on 3rd down at the wrong time in the game, but I'll take that over our soft coverage, bend but don't break nonsense.

Yeah like a louisville fan would know when it's a good time to blitz.

Dawg61
01-12-2017, 12:10 AM
Love how IYOK is telling y'all you're gonna shit your pants when you see who all HEVESY is going to land in this class and some of you still wanna run him outta town. Just wait for the cookie first maybe you'll be impressed

DancingRabbit
01-12-2017, 12:41 AM
Apologies if this was discussed elsewhere but what is the story on Grantham's salary? I've seen it reported that he was making $1.3M at Louisville and will make $1.1M at State. Is that accurate? Reason he would take less to come to MSU?

msbulldog
01-12-2017, 06:55 AM
Boy if Sirmon didn't like DM, wait till he gets his a$$ ripped by Bobby 'Harley Davidson' Petrino.

Political Hack
01-12-2017, 07:35 AM
I've been told by someone I trust that we're about to close really strong. Seems like things are lining up well.

Lance Harbor
01-12-2017, 08:17 AM
This is my thought. We all said the same things to ourself last year when he was hired here. We all somewhat spin information to fit what we want to believe.

No spinning Grantham though. I've seen comments about how he will blitz on 3rd down at the wrong time in the game, but I'll take that over our soft coverage, bend but don't break nonsense.

My UGA friends referred to MSU's new DC as "3rd and Grantham" because of the uncanny ability of teams to convert on 3rd down.

Bob Sacamano
01-12-2017, 08:30 AM
Is it progress to have a coach that can force a team to 3rd down?***

TrapGame
01-12-2017, 08:38 AM
My UGA friends referred to MSU's new DC as "3rd and Grantham" because of the uncanny ability of teams to convert on 3rd down.

They act like he's never been a DC anywhere else. He's had far better defenses than those couple of years at UGA. I guess that's what you get from people that think Kirby Smart is an upgrade over Mark Richt.

msstate7
01-12-2017, 08:43 AM
My UGA friends referred to MSU's new DC as "3rd and Grantham" because of the uncanny ability of teams to convert on 3rd down.

Looked it up... 3rd down conversion %

Georgia
'10 -- 12th (last in sec)
'11 -- 3rd
'12 -- 7th
'13 -- 9th

Louisville
'14 -- 3rd in ACC
'15 -- 5th
'16 -- 4th

Louisville was 10th nationally in 3rd down conversion % this season. We were 79th.

Louisville was 35th in '15.

Louisville was 10th in '14.

Georgia was 64th in '13

Georgia was 37th in '12

Georgia was 3rd in '11.

Georgia was 79th in '10.

So in 6 years, Grantham was bad in 2 years and 1 was Georgia's move to a 3-4

DLGDawg
01-12-2017, 08:49 AM
Man.... I love facts!!


Looked it up... 3rd down conversion %

Georgia
'10 -- 12th (last in sec)
'11 -- 3rd
'12 -- 7th
'13 -- 9th

Louisville
'14 -- 3rd in ACC
'15 -- 5th
'16 -- 4th

Louisville was 10th nationally in 3rd down conversion % this season. We were 79th.

Louisville was 35th in '15.

Louisville was 10th in '14.

Georgia was 64th in '13

Georgia was 37th in '12

Georgia was 3rd in '11.

Georgia was 79th in '10.

So in 6 years, Grantham was bad in 2 years and 1 was Georgia's move to a 3-4

wasabaka
01-12-2017, 08:51 AM
Is it progress to have a coach that can force a team to 3rd down?***

No sarcasterisks needed IMHO. Yes. Definite progress.

bulldog2488
01-12-2017, 10:48 AM
Okay so maybe I'm not reading between the lines well, but IYOK, are you saying we are going to flip some OL commits from another school?

Really Clark?
01-12-2017, 10:53 AM
Okay so maybe I'm not reading between the lines well, but IYOK, are you saying we are going to flip some OL commits from another school?

A possibility and we are bringing in another OL this weekend to visit.

RougeDawg
01-12-2017, 10:55 AM
Okay so maybe I'm not reading between the lines well, but IYOK, are you saying we are going to flip some OL commits from another school?

Maybe Greg Little will be allowed to transfer, without sitting, since he recently told the truth when the NCAA came knocking.

bulldog2488
01-12-2017, 11:01 AM
A possibility and we are bringing in another OL this weekend to visit.

Okay cool. Who are the possibilities for flips? Is the kid thats coming in for a visit the one from New Hope?

Really Clark?
01-12-2017, 11:07 AM
Okay cool. Who are the possibilities for flips? Is the kid thats coming in for a visit the one from New Hope?

Bringing in Carty from FL this weekend but Reed and Suggs will be here as well.

bulldog2488
01-12-2017, 11:11 AM
Bringing in Carty from FL this weekend but Reed and Suggs will be here as well.

Nice. I'm not familiar with Carty. I'll have to look him up on 247 or Scout.

msstate7
01-12-2017, 11:14 AM
Bringing in Carty from FL this weekend but Reed and Suggs will be here as well.

Reed isn't expected to qualify, right? Think I read that somewhere

bulldog2488
01-12-2017, 11:17 AM
Reed isn't expected to qualify, right? Think I read that somewhere

I think I remember seeing that somewhere too. Also, is he going to be a DL or OL?

Really Clark?
01-12-2017, 11:19 AM
Reed isn't expected to qualify, right? Think I read that somewhere

No. He would be a sign and place

Big4Dawg
01-12-2017, 11:27 AM
Hope we flip the Memphis kid

Lance Harbor
01-12-2017, 01:25 PM
Maybe Greg Little will be allowed to transfer, without sitting, since he recently told the truth when the NCAA came knocking.

Go on....

Lance Harbor
01-12-2017, 01:26 PM
Man.... I love facts!!

Justifies UGA fans' nickname for Grantham. Though in Grantham's defense UGA lost 3 of 4 starting DB's in 2013. One now starts at Auburn and the other at Louisville.

Reason2succeed
01-12-2017, 02:46 PM
Looked it up... 3rd down conversion %

Georgia
'10 -- 12th (last in sec)
'11 -- 3rd
'12 -- 7th
'13 -- 9th

Louisville
'14 -- 3rd in ACC
'15 -- 5th
'16 -- 4th

Louisville was 10th nationally in 3rd down conversion % this season. We were 79th.

Louisville was 35th in '15.

Louisville was 10th in '14.

Georgia was 64th in '13

Georgia was 37th in '12

Georgia was 3rd in '11.

Georgia was 79th in '10.

So in 6 years, Grantham was bad in 2 years and 1 was Georgia's move to a 3-4


One of the BSR hosts said that Grantham simplified his defense when he went to UL. I love it when DCs have simple defenses. You can tell that players are just out there reacting and letting their talent do the work. I think about Joe Lee Dunn. His defense was simple but effective.

At the college level I don't think there is as much value in trying to confuse an opposing QB because most of these QBs can't read a defense anyway.

Cary Hudson's little bro
01-12-2017, 02:47 PM
Jordon Carty (http://247sports.com/player/jordon-carty-4663842)- Like the frame of this kid -

Dawg61
01-12-2017, 03:11 PM
His defense was simple but effective.

not vs Texas

ShotgunDawg
01-12-2017, 03:34 PM
Love how IYOK is telling y'all you're gonna shit your pants when you see who all HEVESY is going to land in this class and some of you still wanna run him outta town. Just wait for the cookie first maybe you'll be impressed

I'm in "Show Me Mode"

Dawg61
01-12-2017, 03:39 PM
I'm in "Show Me Mode"

You don't get your cookies on january 12th or they can get stolen from you before NSD

TStationDawg
01-20-2017, 12:41 PM
IFYOK......2656

Ifyouonlyknew
01-20-2017, 01:46 PM
IFYOK......2656

Is it Signing Day?

Commercecomet24
01-20-2017, 01:50 PM
Is it Signing Day?

Nope, I haven't given up on you yet! Let's finish strong.

maroonmania
01-20-2017, 01:56 PM
"Sirmon's lone season with the Bulldogs was not overly successful.

Now there is an understatement for the ages.

dawgday166
01-20-2017, 01:57 PM
Nope, I haven't given up on you yet! Let's finish strong.

I'm wavering a good bit myself ***

Commercecomet24
01-20-2017, 01:59 PM
I'm wavering a good bit myself ***

No reason to panic til we see how it shakes out. Now hopefully we finish strong and all the fretting thats gone on will have been for naught. However if we don't finish strong I can see the board melting to China lol

dawgday166
01-20-2017, 02:03 PM
No reason to panic til we see how it shakes out. Now hopefully we finish strong and all the fretting thats gone on will have been for naught. However if we don't finish strong I can see the board melting to China lol

Not panicking ... expectations aren't very high tho. Oline is my concern. That is why I get highly perturbed.

Commercecomet24
01-20-2017, 02:07 PM
Not panicking ... expectations aren't very high tho. Oline is my concern. That is why I get highly perturbed.

I understand. We have 2 juco OL already on campus and 3 High School OL's commited as of right now. 5 total is a pretty good class and these are good solid OL recruits as well, not just patches. Hopefully we add at least 1 more but its still a decent OL class, as long as we don't lose one of these last 3.

Political Hack
01-20-2017, 02:24 PM
There's a lot of quiet confidence out there. People who should know feel like we're about to close really strong. Hopefully our guys have a good handle on it, but nobody outside of the message board world is panicking right now.

Commercecomet24
01-20-2017, 02:27 PM
There's a lot of quiet confidence out there. People who should know feel like we're about to close really strong. Hopefully our guys have a good handle on it, but nobody outside of the message board world is panicking right now.

I've heard similar, that's why I'm in the wait til signing day mode. I really believe we wind up with a strong class.

Dawgface
01-20-2017, 04:50 PM
I'm panicking. Going to have another beer to calm my nerves.

TStationDawg
01-20-2017, 04:57 PM
Is it Signing Day? NOPE! And I like your response! That's all I wanted to hear!

maroonmania
01-20-2017, 05:13 PM
There's a lot of quiet confidence out there. People who should know feel like we're about to close really strong. Hopefully our guys have a good handle on it, but nobody outside of the message board world is panicking right now.

I'm just wondering where these other top line recruits are at that we are going to close strong with? Outside of Gay who are others that we are involved with that we have a chance to sign?

Dawg61
01-20-2017, 05:16 PM
I'm just wondering where these other top line recruits are at that we are going to close strong with? Outside of Gay who are others that we are involved with that we have a chance to sign?

There's a reason why it is being kept quiet. Telling you now because you can't wait defeats that purpose.

Commercecomet24
01-20-2017, 05:16 PM
I'm panicking. Going to have another beer to calm my nerves.

Kinda early ain't it? lol